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Topic: THE ELDER SCROLLS IV: OBLIVION
Talonus
Loner
posted 04-05-2006 05:51:26 PM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Batty:
Honestly, after playing for a bit, you ideally want skills you won't use much as your main, so you can then force a levelup by doing them instead of levelling during combat or doing other things you do all the time, which allows you to control your stat gain a bit better. Makes a better character overall and you don't really sacrifice much skill gain either.

Keep in mind I don't take my own advice here.


I agree and disagree here. While there are some skills that you shouldn't take, like athlets or speechcraft, you want some of your major skills to be skills that you use a lot, like your weapon and armor choices. All you have to do is powerskill your minor skills at the start of a level in order to get your bonuses. Also, unless you're a pure caster, the leveling issue is entirely exaggerated until about 30+ if you play intelligently. Of course, you won't learn to play intelligently until you've been playing for awhile, but that's besides the point.

Dr. Gee
Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
posted 04-05-2006 05:55:28 PM
quote:
How.... Falaanla Marr.... uughhhhhh:
Raising mercantile is kind of wasteful.

Join the mage's guild. Create a spell that, for 2 seconds, gives you +100 mercantile and hits your target for +100 charm.

Instant uber prices on items!


I haven't found a merchant with more than 1200 gold though. So selling all that daedric gear at a quarter of it's value seems like a waste. Unless the spell gives you the investment and +500 gold perks.

Talonus
Loner
posted 04-05-2006 06:03:16 PM
quote:
Dr. Gee had this to say about Duck Tales:
I haven't found a merchant with more than 1200 gold though. So selling all that daedric gear at a quarter of it's value seems like a waste. Unless the spell gives you the investment and +500 gold perks.

You get tons upon tons of the gear, especially if you're clearing a number of gates (like you should be). By the time I was 20, I had over 100k gold. This is after buying every house, upgrading the Skingrad house to maximum, and having a mercantile of ~30ish. You really only need cash during the early levels, which is when you're not going to have a high mercantile anyway.

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 04-05-2006 06:18:30 PM
quote:
The logic train ran off the tracks when Dr. Gee said:
I haven't found a merchant with more than 1200 gold though. So selling all that daedric gear at a quarter of it's value seems like a waste. Unless the spell gives you the investment and +500 gold perks.

I shall test this right now, zomg~

Naimah
In a Fire
posted 04-05-2006 06:35:44 PM
Spell increases do not grant you the special abilities. It's lame.
Y.O.T.C
No longer a Towel Girl
posted 04-05-2006 11:16:41 PM
Hmmmmmm... WHo was looking for a way to remove spells from their spell book?

Linkity!

Arttemis
Not Squire... but a guitar!
posted 04-06-2006 12:18:02 AM
quote:
Batty's account was hax0red to write:
Run away, use doors, and fight from a range. Humanoid mobs follow through doors, non-humanoid don't.

Got through it this way. Kinda felt like cheating, but whatever.

Willias
Pancake
posted 04-06-2006 12:49:17 AM
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 04-06-2006 12:50:14 AM
If you're not training up anything else through a trainer, I recommend doing 5 mercantile skill-ups per level at Seed-Neeus. My only problem, is that I don't know where the expert and master trainers are (She's just journeyman).

Late-game, Mercantile really doesn't matter much as by then you've got too much gold anyways, but selling anything to anyone cuts down on a lot of headache.

What the game really needs is a good money-sink other than houses. Personally, I think your house should have a chance of being robbed at night. You could hire servants, or get married, to have someone stay at your house to keep it safe while you're away. I also don't think that items should magically pop back into place when they're moved in your house, because it keeps fucking up my armor and weapon displays

Leftover Mog
No, the spelling errors are not intentional
posted 04-06-2006 12:55:44 AM
quote:
Khyron attempted to be funny by writing:
I also don't think that items should magically pop back into place when they're moved in your house, because it keeps fucking up my armor and weapon displays

Just wait for good fanmade houses, back in morrowindi ahd one full of manquins to display armor on and weapon racks for swords and stuff, it was like 4 floors and ahd display cases for everything (i had dozens of scrolls all ncielys tacked and everything)

Won't you be my friend

"I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
-- George Herbert Walker Bush

ArchAngel
Not a girl, never will be, no matter how much you may hear differently
posted 04-06-2006 01:24:25 AM
quote:
Willias said this about your mom:
HEART

Oh god... that's morbidly hillarious.

"What power would hell have if those imprisoned there could not dream of heaven?" -Dream, Sandman
"When the first living thing existed, I was there waiting. When the last living thing dies, my job will be finished. I'll put the chairs on the tables, turn out the lights, and lock the universe behind me as I leave." -Death, Sandman
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot." Dream, Sandman
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Leftover Mog
No, the spelling errors are not intentional
posted 04-06-2006 01:26:56 AM
The first dark brotherhood quest you get from lucien made me realy sad

I realy liked those guys

Won't you be my friend

"I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
-- George Herbert Walker Bush

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 04-06-2006 01:59:05 AM
quote:
OMGWilliasWilliasWilliasWilliasWilliasWilliasWilliasWilliasWilliasWilliasWilliasWilliasWilliasWilliasOMG
HEART

I must duplicate that with Nirnroot... D:

Alaan
posted 04-06-2006 02:01:37 AM
quote:
Leftover Mog had this to say about Tron:
The first dark brotherhood quest you get from lucien made me realy sad

I realy liked those guys


"Seeing you is like seeing the Dark Mother hers*hork*"

Willias
Pancake
posted 04-06-2006 02:17:41 AM
quote:
Delphi Aegis got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
I must duplicate that with Nirnroot... D:

To perform:

Have 2 kinds of arrows in your inventory, a bow, and an item you wish to duplicate.

First, equip your bow, and the first kind of arrow.

Second, begin to fire the bow by pulling back the bowstring. Aim at the sky, preferrably.

Third, hit tab while having the arrow pulled back. Now, equip a second kind of arrow (the more you have of this type of arrow, the more of the item you wish to duplicate you will make) twice by clicking on it twice.

Fourth, drop the item you wish to duplicate.

Fifth, don't left click and hold while leaving the menu, just let the bow fire.

You should shoot one of the original arrow that you had equipped, and all of the second type of arrow you had should turn into the item you wanted to duplicate.

nem-x
posted 04-06-2006 02:39:52 AM
quote:
This one time, at Willias camp:
HEART






Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 04-06-2006 02:53:09 AM
There are, apparently, a few things you cannot duplicate at all!

For instance: A soul gem with a soul in it (Empty gems work fine), any of the Daedric artifacts (mask of clavacus vile, mace of molag bal, azura's star, etc), and, perhaps most sadly of all, Nirnroot.

Still, I'm taking my 200 amulets of spell reflection and going home~

Willias
Pancake
posted 04-06-2006 02:59:05 AM
quote:
Nobody really understood why nem-x wrote:
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Did you give one of those to the beggar over there?

Dr. Gee
Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
posted 04-06-2006 01:43:35 PM
The Gray Cowl of Nocturnal is severely bugged. While wearing it every creature within your line of site automagically detects you. With a modified sneak of 94, 40% Chameleon, and at night, a goblin was able to detect me from about 120 feet while he was looking away from me. It might have something to do with the Detect Life on it, but i do not know!

Sneaking up on the same stuff was no problem when i wasn't wearing the cowl either. I tried all this with and without chameleon.

Dr. Gee fucked around with this message on 04-06-2006 at 02:07 PM.

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 04-06-2006 02:38:02 PM
I never liked the lesser Chameleon.. If wearing armor, even with a 100% version, you get detected. (Without armor, you're impervious).

So I just took an entire suit of glass armor and using Xivaili souls I summoned myself, gave them all (save the shield) 20% chameleon.

Instant suit of "this is so god damn broken". D:

Leftover Mog
No, the spelling errors are not intentional
posted 04-06-2006 04:04:29 PM
quote:
Delphi Aegis wrote this stupid crap:
I never liked the lesser Chameleon.. If wearing armor, even with a 100% version, you get detected. (Without armor, you're impervious).

So I just took an entire suit of glass armor and using Xivaili souls I summoned myself, gave them all (save the shield) 20% chameleon.

Instant suit of "this is so god damn broken". D:


can you do that to any armor?

Won't you be my friend

"I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
-- George Herbert Walker Bush

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 04-06-2006 04:10:27 PM
quote:
Leftover Mog had this to say about Robocop:
can you do that to any armor?

I can enchant crappy rings with 20% chameleon, as long as it's a grand soul (1600 points). Why you'd bother with anything less then the best though.. heh.

Invisibility and anything less then 100% camo will give you a predator effect when you try and view your character; but straight up 100% will make you entirely invisibile. You won't see your sword/bow/shield or yourself in third person.

Fortunately, nobody else will either, unless you talk to them (Or make a noise).

Maradon!
posted 04-06-2006 07:32:22 PM
player.additem 0004E940 20000

nirnroot galore.

nem-x
posted 04-06-2006 07:34:22 PM
ATI video card users (crossfire)

AA + HDR oryry

nem-x fucked around with this message on 04-06-2006 at 07:48 PM.

nem-x
posted 04-06-2006 08:17:41 PM
nem-x
posted 04-06-2006 09:35:40 PM
New Age Bane
Waste Management Crisis
posted 04-06-2006 10:38:29 PM
Hey Khyron...
What am I supposed to in here again? Oh yes something witty and oh so pretty!
Sean
posted 04-06-2006 10:41:32 PM
quote:
** There is a major bug in this mod, where after 72 game hours the mannequin will disappear taking the things it had with it. A new version in being worked on and should be completed soon.
A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

New Age Bane
Waste Management Crisis
posted 04-07-2006 12:28:40 AM
quote:
Sean got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
[QB][/QB]

aww

What am I supposed to in here again? Oh yes something witty and oh so pretty!
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 04-07-2006 09:18:19 AM
Just bought the Skingrad house last night, didn't realise it had Display Cases until I saw those as one of the furnishings for sale. Between those and the Mannequin mod when it's completed, I'm going to have one damn nice house.

Still want a Mod that makes it easier to place books, or stops items in houses from moving back to their original positions when I move them.

Leftover Mog
No, the spelling errors are not intentional
posted 04-07-2006 12:22:04 PM
The manor in Anvil is realy nice, plus its dirt cheep

course thatsc cause its huanted, but still, its nice, plus you get your own free tomb filled with mutilated corpses

The payoff for the deadre cults seems pretty lackluster, then again i havent done the one that needs willowisps yet,cant freaken find them, the ogre one was fun though

Won't you be my friend

"I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
-- George Herbert Walker Bush

New Age Bane
Waste Management Crisis
posted 04-07-2006 01:00:27 PM
quote:
Leftover Mog had this to say about Captain Planet:
The manor in Anvil is realy nice, plus its dirt cheep

course thatsc cause its huanted, but still, its nice, plus you get your own free tomb filled with mutilated corpses

The payoff for the deadre cults seems pretty lackluster, then again i havent done the one that needs willowisps yet,cant freaken find them, the ogre one was fun though


an unbreakable lockpick lackluster? Cheap maybe...

What am I supposed to in here again? Oh yes something witty and oh so pretty!
Alaan
posted 04-07-2006 01:24:18 PM
quote:
How.... Leftover Mog.... uughhhhhh:
The manor in Anvil is realy nice, plus its dirt cheep

course thatsc cause its huanted, but still, its nice, plus you get your own free tomb filled with mutilated corpses

The payoff for the deadre cults seems pretty lackluster, then again i havent done the one that needs willowisps yet,cant freaken find them, the ogre one was fun though


There are Wisps right around her shrine. Circle a bit.

Alberd
Pancake
posted 04-07-2006 01:47:32 PM
After several hours of work, I finally have book placement down to a science. After I was forced to kill Glarthir, I stole something like thirty books from his house, then spent the rest of the night carefully lining them up on the shelves in my home in Bruma. I wasted way too much damned time doing that.

Alberd fucked around with this message on 04-07-2006 at 01:48 PM.

To live by the sword is to die by the sword.
Honor those who honor thee, be merciful to those who show thee mercy.
To those who offend thee and thine, show no mercy.
Alaan
posted 04-07-2006 01:51:03 PM
I would so love to have a button that auto-set whatever you are holding to an upright position. SOme things are just so awkward to place and look good. I'm looking at you swords that refuse to lean how I want to.
Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 04-07-2006 02:08:16 PM
quote:
Dr. Gee's account was hax0red to write:
The Gray Cowl of Nocturnal is severely bugged. While wearing it every creature within your line of site automagically detects you. With a modified sneak of 94, 40% Chameleon, and at night, a goblin was able to detect me from about 120 feet while he was looking away from me. It might have something to do with the Detect Life on it, but i do not know!

Sneaking up on the same stuff was no problem when i wasn't wearing the cowl either. I tried all this with and without chameleon.


Yours must be bugged. I sneak up on people with my Sniper wearing his all the time.

The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 04-07-2006 02:13:29 PM
How much do houses cost? I have about 11 grand saved up, and I'm sick to death of having to haul all my shit around.
That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 04-07-2006 02:16:43 PM
quote:
Karnaj spewed forth this undeniable truth:
How much do houses cost? I have about 11 grand saved up, and I'm sick to death of having to haul all my shit around.

It counts on what house in what city. The one in the waterfront in Imperial City is only 2000g.

There's one, I think it's in Chorrol, that's 25,000g.

P.S. If you don't mind doing a side quest, you can get a REALLY nice house in Anvil for only 5000g.

Zephyer Kyuukaze fucked around with this message on 04-07-2006 at 02:17 PM.

The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Maradon!
posted 04-07-2006 04:25:12 PM
I think I'm ultra bugged or something...

my int is permenantly red and reduced by 3 points, nothing I do can restore it, and my destruction skill won't increase and I DO have the skill fix mod.

Talonus
Loner
posted 04-07-2006 04:44:45 PM
quote:
Maradon! had this to say about pies:
my int is permenantly red and reduced by 3 points, nothing I do can restore it, and my destruction skill won't increase and I DO have the skill fix mod.

Skill fix mod is for skills only, not stats. Are you sure you're not diseased? Visited a temple to see the gods yet? They'll cure diseases.

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