However, it and the Disciple are easily the best group healers in the game, and they make fantastic secondary healers. They also do more damage than the other healer classes from what I've seen.
What server will everyone be rolling on? I plan on going Order first (Runepriest), but knowing what server people will be playing on for Destruction would be cool too.
Drifting Castle sounds good to me, but I'd prefer rolling up where other people are planning to go. Willias fucked around with this message on 09-13-2008 at 08:04 PM.
However, currently Ironbreakers are pretty much overpowered. Their grudges build to 100 within seconds of PvP and they're built like trucks to match. An Ironbreaker with a pocket healer is almost guaranteed to top the damage dealt charts.
Personally I love the Witch Hunter class. It's a shame I feel like MDPS classes will quickly fall to the wayside in pitched, large scale battles in the RvR end-game (besieging etc). I love the style and rogue-type abilities of the class.
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No, Mr. nem-x, I expect you to die.
they changed the witch elf icon to some gay lightning bolt type of thing
its a dagger geez cybertranny
Healing seems to net you shitloads of contribution in public quests, too
quote:more than you could ever hope.
Maradon!.
I definitely love the hell out of some zealotHealing seems to net you shitloads of contribution in public quests, too
Sean has a story about my zealot contributions to PQ, he'll post it when he sees this
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Willias postedWhat server will everyone be rolling on? I plan on going Order first (Runepriest), but knowing what server people will be playing on for Destruction would be cool too.
I'll probably bandwagon to whatever server I see people rolling on.
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Blackened had this to say about (_|_):
more than you could ever hope.Sean has a story about my zealot contributions to PQ, he'll post it when he sees this
haha fuck you you fucking cunt
what happened is we're killing time in between scenarios by grinding up our Renown throughout the Chaos newbie area. he's all keeping me alive while i smack the shit out of everything that moves because Chaos pubbies are dumb as fuck - with about a dozen of them waddling around being useless, I'm still somehow not even breaking top 5 in contribution
then Black goes AFK for one, leaving himself parked right in the middle of the spawn area
Despite a dozen pubbies' best efforts I wind up having to practically solo the whole fucking thing, and I come up - again - fourth or fifth in contribution.
Zealot the Zealot (Black) comes in third in contribution. And wins a green loot bag. Without having done a damn thing the whole time.
I wound up rolling 9/14 or some bullshit.
Fuck PQs.
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Check out the big brain on Blackened!
Runepriests/Zealots are ridiculous AE healers when you invest in their mastery tree. Go check it out on wardb or something.
Yeah, Runepriests and Zealots can AoE heal (I don't know if I'd call it ridiculous), but they can't touch a Warrior Priest/Disciple of Khaine in that regard. They just have better tools for the job.
going through withdraaaaawl
Greenlit fucked around with this message on 09-14-2008 at 12:59 PM.
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Nobody really understood why Katrinity wrote:
Mwhahaha. Time to start playing some headstart.
Unless you want to play on the servers with 300+ or 500+ player queues. Then you can sit and stare at the screen... like me.
Also, see you in-game, Tal!
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I dun got banned had this to say about John Romero:
Marauders are fun, but I feel useless in PVP because it seems like everyone else is ranged. Does this get any better?
MDPS (melee dps) survivability is my only PVP concern right now.
Which is why I'll be rolling either Shadow Warrior or a healer come Tuesday.
if I did it'd be Squig, Shaman or an Ork because Green iz best
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Verily, I dun got banned doth proclaim:
Marauders are fun, but I feel useless in PVP because it seems like everyone else is ranged. Does this get any better?
No.
But it does depend on who you're running with.
If you're in a group or scenario, and you're one of the only melee guys, your experience will suck. You need tanks so there are other targets besides you, and you need healers willing to keep you up.
Which is horrible for Order because they have so few tanks. Which is sad since Ironbreakers get a scary amount of synergy with a Warrior Priest or a melee DPS.
On Destruction, it shouldn't be a problem due to the popularity of the tanking classes. Just stick around the other melee and don't run in first. Let tanks become established as targets, then run in. Willias fucked around with this message on 09-15-2008 at 05:43 AM.
Just know this: if they see you coming, you're dead.
You're fragile and weak, so the more sneaky you can be, the better you are. Use this to your advantage by going around the scenario. If you're a Marauder, for example, head left out of the entrance and run for the Lighthouse. If you're in Ekrund's Gate, head right and run for the Supply Room.
If the thought of neither appeals to you, just get up behind someone. A lot of your abilities will ignore armor or silence people, so take the opportunity to get up in peoples' faces.
If the enemy has left their healer at the back of the group, that's the ideal situation. You can get up and slaughter them or, at the very least, drive them away or hinder them long enough for your group to take care of their tanks.
If you spot a lone ranged DPS, don't be afraid to charge. You can use Flee if you have to, in fact. When a ranged DPS gets a melee on him, his first instinct, 90% of the time, is to turn and run. Hell, with Order, they almost always run away in combat, anyway. If you've got a smart RDPS who's seen you flee, you might be in for trouble unless you pop a warming potion.
The exception to these are usually Engineers and Magi. They typically don't run from their turrets or horrors and, if they do, they're easy meat.
Frankly, I'd be grateful if more of my melee DPS teammates spent their time killing other MDPS. They can't hurt me, but they love to run away and I can't chase them for fear of leaving the node.
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OrangeBrand had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Did anyone mention what server we are all going to try and play on. I wouldnt mind being on the same side or agaisnt you all.
No one plays EC guilds anymore.
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Mr. Parcelan attempted to be funny by writing:
No one plays EC guilds anymore.
says you
No really, EC guilds do suck, but personally I don't want to join an EC guild. I just want to play on the same server as some of you guys.
otherwise it's goons
ugh
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This insanity brought to you by Kegwen:
So someone explain to me again how it is that people target tanks in pvp rather than hitting a target that makes sense?
Because that's the purpose of tanks? If you don't target them, your damage sucks? Have you even played this game in the last 2 weeks? 
edit: also that mechanic sounds annoying Kegwen fucked around with this message on 09-15-2008 at 12:36 PM.
Skaw fucked around with this message on 09-15-2008 at 01:03 PM.
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Kegwen attempted to be funny by writing:
I was looking at this through the lens of WoW pvp
Which is obviously why you didn't like the game, given your track record on this thread.
"wow graphics r better"
"wow pvp iz better"
"wow gameplay is betta"
etc. 
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Kegwen had this to say about (_|_):
That does seem like a more elegant solution than having the tank class respec to DPS like we do in WoW. I was looking at this through the lens of WoW pvp where you ignore/cc the people with plate on and kill their support classes.
There are a few problems with that. Collision detection makes it difficult to maneuver around the tanks, if not impossible in the cases of bridges and gaps. Taunt increases their already considerable damage. They have a variety of knockdowns and snares to keep you in line. Not to mention, they're usually standing right on the objective you need.
If they're smart, you'll have to engage them at the same time and either focus fire the priest while keeping the tank distracted or occupy the healer long enough to slaughter the tank.
Both aren't easy, as they're both pretty shockingly durable.
But yeah, if you go in expecting to play like WoW, you'll be sorely disappointed.
