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Topic: Guess who just saw Episode III
New Age Bane
Waste Management Crisis
posted 05-22-2005 03:22:54 AM
quote:
Mightion Defensor got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
That's basically what the book says..."Obi-Wan...there ..is still good in him. I know there is... still..."


Thats what I heard, where else have I heard that before.

What am I supposed to in here again? Oh yes something witty and oh so pretty!
Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 05-22-2005 03:49:21 AM
quote:
BeauChan's account was hax0red to write:
I got hooked on episode I, yes, but I'm acutally interested in watching how the series grows and what happens with anakin, especially with padme ( ) and the darth vader thing.

George Lucas said he always intended for people to watch the films in order(Phantom Menance ----> Return of the Jedi), but I that's just retarded. It totally destroys the greatest scene in the history of film, in the Empire Strikes Back.

UBT
Pancake
posted 05-22-2005 12:16:25 PM
quote:
-Yuri- wrote this stupid crap:
"There is still good in him" or something like that. If you get the throwback to ROTJ you win a cookie.

Isn't that what Luke says in ROTJ?

-Yuri-
Pancake
posted 05-22-2005 12:23:06 PM
quote:
System.out.println("UBT said this:");
Isn't that what Luke says in ROTJ?

Yeah.. Go to Kat to redeem your cookie.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 05-22-2005 12:43:15 PM
His cookie is beyond redemption!

Snoota plundered it


And I liked Parasite Eve, but I had high school biology and the premise made me twitch. Sci-Fi is like this: If you're going to bullshit, do it big and grand. Be like the original Star Wars trilogy. OR don't bullshit. Derive everything from real science (a la Star Trek, save for subspace/warp drive). Don't mix the two. You end up with midichlorians or biology that just makes your ass twitch enough that it sticks out (Parasite Eve). The gameplay, however, and overall story, was excellent.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

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OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 05-22-2005 01:26:19 PM
There was something else that came to mind, I've had a lot of time to watch the movie (at work in the Projection Booth) and have seen it 5 times, so each time something else occurs to me.

When Sideous is talking to Ani he mentions only one man has cheated death. We know Plagus wasn't the one...is there a throwback to Tales of the Jedi? Exar Kun became a ghostie...is that what he's talking about? Or did he know about Qui-Gon?

..:: This Is The Sound Of Settling ::..
Aaron (the good one)
posted 05-22-2005 01:41:06 PM
I haven't seen Episodes 4-6 in about 7 years.

Who is Qui-Gon?

Galbadia Hotel - Video Game Music
I am Canadian and I hate The Tragically Hip
Mr. Crabs
Pancake
posted 05-22-2005 01:45:14 PM
quote:
There was much rejoicing when Delidgamond said this:
I haven't seen Episodes 4-6 in about 7 years.

Who is Qui-Gon?


Liam Neeson's character in Episode Uno.

There's a King on a throne with his eyes torn out.
There's a Blind Man looking for a shadow of doubt.
There's a Rich Man sleeping on a golden bed.
There's a Skeleton choking on a crust of bread.
Aaron (the good one)
posted 05-22-2005 01:47:56 PM
quote:
Mr. Crabs likes the cock and also said this;
Liam Neeson's character in Episode Uno.

oh. What did he do in 4-6?

Galbadia Hotel - Video Game Music
I am Canadian and I hate The Tragically Hip
Mr. Crabs
Pancake
posted 05-22-2005 02:03:16 PM
quote:
Delidgamond was aroused by the sex scene in Team America: World Police when he said:
oh. What did he do in 4-6?

Absolutely nothing. He wasn't even mentioned in these movies.

There's a King on a throne with his eyes torn out.
There's a Blind Man looking for a shadow of doubt.
There's a Rich Man sleeping on a golden bed.
There's a Skeleton choking on a crust of bread.
Aaron (the good one)
posted 05-22-2005 02:05:57 PM
quote:
Oh Mr. Crabs. Oh Mr. Crabs! Oh Mr. Crabs!!;
Absolutely nothing. He wasn't even mentioned in these movies.

then wtf

Galbadia Hotel - Video Game Music
I am Canadian and I hate The Tragically Hip
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 05-22-2005 03:08:45 PM
The allusion is that Qui-Gon figured out how to become a force ghost and tells Obi and Yoda
Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

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Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 05-22-2005 03:18:46 PM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Mr. Crabs wrote:
Absolutely nothing. He wasn't even mentioned in these movies.

I'm not sure I can agree with the "absolutely nothing" answer.

Leia, on THAT ship (used in Epp 3), puts the Death Star information and a request for help from Obi-Wan into THAT R2 unit, which has THAT 3PO unit tag along. They then land in the lap of Luke, of all people. And then Obi-Wan just happens to find them when they're in trouble?

I'm sorry, but that's just too much to happen all by itself. Someone was pulling strings, and the best answer for "who?" is Qui-Gon. Obi-Wan must have had a hard time keeping a straight face during all that. And I'm sure that Yoda (during Epp 5) found a reason to send Luke off after something and had a talk with R2 about the old days.

Palador ChibiDragon fucked around with this message on 05-22-2005 at 03:19 PM.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Sean
posted 05-22-2005 04:03:09 PM
Man.. That was kinda sad.

The writing for Padme and Palpatine was embarassingly bad. But it was a good movie up until Mace Windu died; those early scenes with Anakin 'falling' to the Dark Side were just pathetic. Ian McDiarmid is much better than that.

The 'Order 66' bit proved, for me at least, that it was Palpatine masquerading as Sifa Dias who ordered the creation of the clones. Not Qui-Gonn or Yoda or anyone else.

Ewan McGregor was the best reason to see that film.

Sean fucked around with this message on 05-22-2005 at 04:05 PM.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Malbi
posted 05-22-2005 05:51:00 PM
quote:
This one time, at Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael camp:
The allusion is that Qui-Gon figured out how to become a force ghost and tells Obi and Yoda

the way I see the fact Luke never sees the Qui Gon ghost is that he had no emotional attachment to him, he saw Obi-wan (first teacher), Yoda (second teacher) and old Anakin (father)

I Didnt ask to be Secretary of Balloon Doggies, the Balloon Doggies demanded it!
OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 05-22-2005 06:21:34 PM
quote:
How.... Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael.... uughhhhhh:
The allusion is that Qui-Gon figured out how to become a force ghost and tells Obi and Yoda

Right, right, I get that.

But after Anakin turns, after Mace dies, Palpi says, "Only one other has cheated death"

...So who was it? Is he talking about Qui-Gon? Or Exar Kun?

..:: This Is The Sound Of Settling ::..
Sean
posted 05-22-2005 06:24:34 PM
quote:
Because OtakuPenguin is my friend.
...So who was it? Is he talking about Qui-Gon? Or Exar Kun?

Qui-Gon. Everyone who appears (or is alluded to appearing) as a ghost has 'cheated death'. Yoda says Qui-Gon learned how to, and subsequently how to communicate back and forth, and he will be teaching Obi-Wan during his exile on Tatooine.

He said Jedi, anyways. Exar Kun was Sith for one, and I wouldn't count on Lucas bringing up that can of worms for two.

Sean fucked around with this message on 05-22-2005 at 06:25 PM.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 05-22-2005 06:38:04 PM
quote:
Sean wrote, obviously thinking too hard:

Ewan McGregor was the best reason to see that film.

Damn straight


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

BeauChan
Objects in sigpic may be hammier than they appear
posted 05-22-2005 06:39:40 PM

*hears a click in her head*

anakin is luke's father. duh....


*smacks herself in the head*

Endured by EC for over 7 years and counting...
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 05-22-2005 06:41:30 PM
Wow.

Just. . .

Wow.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Mr. Parcelan
posted 05-22-2005 06:44:28 PM
quote:
BeauChan had this to say about Pirotess:

*hears a click in her head*

anakin is luke's father. duh....


*smacks herself in the head*


AHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BeauChan
Objects in sigpic may be hammier than they appear
posted 05-22-2005 06:48:07 PM
well soorrrry.... did I not say that this was my First time watching any star wars movie?

Endured by EC for over 7 years and counting...
UBT
Pancake
posted 05-22-2005 07:44:45 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Sean was all like:
Qui-Gon. Everyone who appears (or is alluded to appearing) as a ghost has 'cheated death'. Yoda says Qui-Gon learned how to, and subsequently how to communicate back and forth, and he will be teaching Obi-Wan during his exile on Tatooine.

He said Jedi, anyways. Exar Kun was Sith for one, and I wouldn't count on Lucas bringing up that can of worms for two.


First off, Palpatine was talking about a Sith, naming him Darth Plagus. At that time during the movie Qui-Gon was not known to have done this.

Second of all, Exar Kun was a very powerful Jedi before he fell and became Sith. Also, in the future of the series, Palpatine also cheats death by using the force to transfer his conscience into one of several clones that he had waiting in the outer rim. More than likely, he just made up a Sith for the movie that will somehow find his place in the history of Star Wars.

Still one other possibilty is that Darth Plagus was Palpatine's master. At least, that's what it says on every board I've checked so far.

UBT fucked around with this message on 05-22-2005 at 08:01 PM.

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 05-22-2005 08:07:30 PM
quote:
UBT impressed everyone with:
Still one other possibilty is that Darth Plagus was Palpatine's master. At least, that's what it says on every board I've checked so far.

From the way Palpatine was talking, that was the impression that I got.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Maradon!
posted 05-22-2005 08:13:34 PM
quote:
x--Ja'Deth Issar Ka'baelO-('-'Q) :
And I liked Parasite Eve, but I had high school biology and the premise made me twitch.

Parasite Eve is actually the sequel to a movie released in Japan under the same name.

The movie had a much more sound scientific basis, but it was incredibly boring and a little weird.

Zaile Ghostmaker
You've gotta remember, I'm an EverQuest character.
posted 05-22-2005 08:15:29 PM
quote:
Maradon!'s account was hax0red to write:
movie ... Japan ... weird.

A wierd movie from Japan? You're joking, right?

I find that most problems can be solved by excessive violence.

It is held in thought
only by the understanding
of the Wind.

Sean
posted 05-22-2005 08:18:33 PM
quote:
Why, UBT! where you goin' with that shotgun?
First off, Palpatine was talking about a Sith, naming him Darth Plagus. At that time during the movie Qui-Gon was not known to have done this.

He was talking about the Sith power to save and preserve life, which indeed was Plagus's, his mentor. He also specifically mentions that of all the lives Plagus could save, he couldn't save his own. Because Palpatine sabered his ass in his sleep.

quote:
Second of all, Exar Kun was a very powerful Jedi before he fell and became Sith. Also, in the future of the series, Palpatine also cheats death by using the force to transfer his conscience into one of several clones that he had waiting in the outer rim. More than likely, he just made up a Sith for the movie that will somehow find his place in the history of Star Wars.

Trust me, I know. I know all about Exar Kun. Lucas just wouldn't include him, there's no reason to. If you hadn't noticed, Lucas was making these three prequels as straightforward and bland as possible; No mysteries, nothing officially unexplained EXCEPT THE FUCKING DARK SIDE-HEAVY CAVE ON DAGOBAH, LUCAS, YOU FUCKING HACK. Er, sorry. But no, there's no reason to believe Lucas was making reference to an EU-created character when he later goes on, at length, talking about Qui-Gon's appearance as the first Jedi ghost.

quote:
Still one other possibilty is that Darth Plagus was Palpatine's master. At least, that's what it says on every board I've checked so far.

..He all but said "I KILLED HIM, I FRAGGED HIS ASS. SITH PHILOSOPHY FOR LI- er, DEATH!"

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Snugglits
I LIKE TO ABUSE THE ALERT MOD BUTTON AND I ENJOY THE FLAVOR OF SWEET SWEET COCK.
posted 05-22-2005 08:18:36 PM
quote:
Zaile Ghostmaker had this to say about Robocop:
A wierd movie from Japan? You're joking, right?

Damn you, crazy foreigners!

Snugglits fucked around with this message on 05-22-2005 at 08:19 PM.

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Ferret
Poing! Poing!
posted 05-22-2005 11:28:19 PM
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EXCEPT THE FUCKING DARK SIDE-HEAVY CAVE ON DAGOBAH, LUCAS, YOU FUCKING HACK.

I always figured that was Yoda fucking with his mind.

JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 05-23-2005 12:28:47 AM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Ferret:
I always figured that was Yoda fucking with his mind.

Yeah, kinda like a placebo effect.

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Malbi
posted 05-23-2005 12:50:37 AM
If you think of the Force being a natural force in the Universe then it is quite sensical for their to be naturally occurring nexuses of either dark side OR light side force. Since the Dark side is closer to death and Light side is closer to life, Dagohhbah a swamp planet that is full of decay and rebirth probably had a slight dark side force leaning, a perfect place for a Jedi to hide.
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LeMiere
posted 05-23-2005 01:11:39 AM
quote:
Ferret's fortune cookie read:
I always figured that was Yoda fucking with his mind.

Actually, there used to be an explanation about it on the official Star Wars web site, last I checked. Very comprehensive explanations of all the little quirky aspects of the universe.

I'd say what I recall, but it's been a year and I probably don't remember exactly. :\ Something like a very powerful sith lord died there, or something.

Drysart
Pancake
posted 05-23-2005 01:58:01 AM
quote:
Tarquinn came out of the closet to say:
The death of the (_|_)-Jedi.

They KILLED her! And shot her corpse!!!

I will not forget this atrocity.

OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 05-23-2005 02:13:58 AM
quote:
Drysart had this to say about Pirotess:
They KILLED her! And shot her corpse!!!

I will not forget this atrocity.


Aayla Secura will be missed =(

..:: This Is The Sound Of Settling ::..
Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 05-23-2005 02:21:01 AM
quote:
Drysart Model 2000 was programmed to say:



I have to admit, those Clonetroopers do not look like they are computer generated on that picture.
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Zair
The Imp
posted 05-23-2005 03:36:40 AM
I found most of the movie to be pretty bad. Even the good actors couldn't make much of the terrible script. And I think there is a reason Hayden Christenson was undiscovered before this movie, he is pretty much a high school play quality actor.

One scene that did invoke emotion from me for some reason was the scene where Anakin enters the room full of Jedi kids. When they ask him for help and he doesn't respond, just takes out his lightsaber. That sort of gave me chills.

I thought Grevious (sp?) was pretty badass looking. Too bad he went down so easily.

Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 05-23-2005 09:17:36 AM
Sidious said that Plagus could influence the Midiclorians to "Create Life". And that Plagus shared with his apprentice all he knew. This means that both Plagus and his Apprentice knew how to create life by influencing the Midiclorians.

It would seem to me that Darth Plagus was Sidious's Master. It would cover the fact that we never find out where Sidious learned the force and would explain why he is so incredibly powerful.

Here is where I get confused.

Anakin was conceived by the Midiclorians. Was his mom Sidious's slave before she was sold to Watoo? Did Sidious then sell her to a Tatooine Resident to get her out of the reach of the Jedi Council so that the child wouldn't be picked up and trained by the Jedi after birth? It would explain easily why sidious is so keen on Anakin and shows so much fatherly concern for him at the end of Episode III. Seems a little out of place for a Sith Lord.

Was Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan's landing on Tatooine during the events of Episode I a part of Sidious's plan? He could have picked any planet in the Republic to start the invasion as an excuse to grab power. Did he pick Naboo because it was close to Tatooine so the Jedi would pick it as the planet on which to hide the Queen? Was he aware of the Jedi prophesy and using it to get his hand-created pupil free training at a location where he would have easy access to slowly poison Anakin's training with pride?

Did he order the attack on Padme to drive Anakin and Padme together, or was it just an unintended side-effect of attempting to silence the pacifists in the senate to ease the development of war to secure his dictatorship?

So much left unexplained.

Sean
posted 05-23-2005 09:22:35 AM
quote:
Ahh man, I shot Blindy. in the face.
So much left unexplained.

I didn't even bother trying to follow Lucas's writing in regards to politics; It's all shakier than a house of cards.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

UBT
Pancake
posted 05-23-2005 12:28:51 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Zair was all like:
I found most of the movie to be pretty bad. Even the good actors couldn't make much of the terrible script. And I think there is a reason Hayden Christenson was undiscovered before this movie, he is pretty much a high school play quality actor.

One scene that did invoke emotion from me for some reason was the scene where Anakin enters the room full of Jedi kids. When they ask him for help and he doesn't respond, just takes out his lightsaber. That sort of gave me chills.

I thought Grevious (sp?) was pretty badass looking. Too bad he went down so easily.


First off, learn to spell his name correctly, it's Hayden Christensen. The name is Danish, it also happens to be my last name so it's kinda pisses me off that with his name in the last 2 Star Wars movies and everyone bitching about him you could at least get that right.

Second off, his acting wasn't that bad in this movie, I felt he did a good job with what he was given.

Also, I wouldn't say that General Grevious went down all that easy. He did give Obi-Wan a good fight until his untimely demise.

UBT fucked around with this message on 05-23-2005 at 12:30 PM.

Sean
posted 05-23-2005 12:35:34 PM
quote:
Because UBT is my friend.
First off, learn to spell his name correctly, it's Hayden Christensen. The name is Danish, it also happens to be my last name so it's kinda pisses me off that with his name in the last 2 Star Wars movies and everyone bitching about him you could at least get that right.

holy fuck he got a vowel wrong stop the goddamn presses

I think I'll spell it wrong on purpose from now on, until he improves his acting to the point of being worthy of any respect. I don't know who Christiansen fucked to get the role of the Star Wars saga's most important character.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

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