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OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 05-27-2005 03:09:23 AM
quote:
So quoth Sentow, Maybe:

HEY!

I just thought of this. Did anyone ever actually tell Anakin he was believed to be the Chosen One before he went to Mustafar? That puts a whole new spin on the end of his and Obi-Wan's duel.

"YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!"
"I HATE Y-wait, what?"
"I mean, uh, you ever tried Pepsi One?"
"I HATE PEPSI ONE!"


That's a really good point...

Although I think Qui-Gon or Obi-Wan must have mentioned it somewhere along the line...

"Oh, by the way Ani..."

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Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 05-27-2005 03:17:49 AM
The part that really killed the movie for me more than anything else was when Sidious "knighted", for lack of a better term, Anakin. It was a scene that was thirty years in the making, and when it was over it was like, "Wait, what? That was retarded."

It's really the fault of the previous two movies. We're made to believe through the Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, as well as all the novels and comic books and the like if you want to count them, that Anakin Skywalker was a good kid that was manipulated by Darth Sidious. Which just wasn't the case. He was a whiny little ass, and his "turn to the Dark Side" was just him finally admiting he was a whiny little ass.

Father McKenzie
Pancake
posted 05-27-2005 03:33:56 AM
quote:
Snoota Model 2000 was programmed to say:
The part that really killed the movie for me more than anything else was when Sidious "knighted", for lack of a better term, Anakin. It was a scene that was thirty years in the making, and when it was over it was like, "Wait, what? That was retarded."

It's really the fault of the previous two movies. We're made to believe through the Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, as well as all the novels and comic books and the like if you want to count them, that Anakin Skywalker was a good kid that was manipulated by Darth Sidious. Which just wasn't the case. He was a whiny little ass, and his "turn to the Dark Side" was just him finally admiting he was a whiny little ass.


Gotta agree. Seeing the human side of Anakin Skywalker was supposed to make him a more sympathetic character but if anything I now feel he deserved any suffering he may have endured. He has absolutely nobody to blame but himself for everything (or I guess you could blame Destiny, but I don't think that's really fair).

Kenobi was the entire movie. The dialogue sucked in so many places but he seemed to have good lines most of the time. His wit was appropriate where it was placed. I didn't really care what happened to Anakin or Padme at the end (Padme's love just never seemed strong enough to warrant the stupid things she did).

Gydyon
Yes, I am a lawyer. No you can't sue them for that. Shut up, or I'll have your legs broken.
posted 05-27-2005 11:07:46 AM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by TheOriginalZane:
White rum has no carbs.

Yes, I know. That wasn't my point.

Gydyon
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Alaan
posted 05-27-2005 02:15:37 PM
ONe thing that occurred to me this morning. Grievous has a regular brain, lungs, and eyes. SO why didn't he get messed up hard when he launched himself into space?
Sean
posted 05-27-2005 02:39:06 PM
quote:
Ahh man, I shot Alaan in the face.
ONe thing that occurred to me this morning. Grievous has a regular brain, lungs, and eyes. SO why didn't he get messed up hard when he launched himself into space?

Because of the Speed Force.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 05-27-2005 02:41:13 PM
quote:
Verily, Alaan doth proclaim:
ONe thing that occurred to me this morning. Grievous has a regular brain, lungs, and eyes. SO why didn't he get messed up hard when he launched himself into space?

I thought about that in the theater. The guys spends half his time doubled over coughing when he is walking around, yet he was able to walk out in space with no problems, and then had the energy to go toe to talon with Obi Wan.

Another thing that really bugged me was the complete lack of realistic physics in the space battles. I mean yeah in the other movies they had some questionable stuff. The ships moves sorta like they were in the atmosphere but not completely. In this one they didnt' even pretend anymore. The little buzz-saw bots sliding off the wings like there was some sort of drag on them the landing of a cruiser that had lost 2/3 of it's mass, etc.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Sean
posted 05-27-2005 02:42:19 PM
SPEED FORCE
A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 05-27-2005 03:31:04 PM
quote:
Sean had this to say about pies:
SPEED FORCE

Don't you be ragging on the Speed Force, green bean

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

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Sean
posted 05-27-2005 03:33:37 PM
quote:
Why, Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael! where you goin' with that shotgun?
Don't you be ragging on the Speed Force, green bean

Calm down, sparky. We needed a deus ex machina, so I picked my favorite. Impulse/Kid Flash is one of my favorite DC characters.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 05-27-2005 03:50:58 PM
Yeah I figured. Most people don't even know what it is, hence the "green bean" reference. Wally used to joke with Gar about his green skin.
Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

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Malbi
posted 05-27-2005 04:28:10 PM
quote:
From the book of Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael, chapter 3, verse 16:
Yeah I figured. Most people don't even know what it is, hence the "green bean" reference. Wally used to joke with Gar about his green skin.

does that mean I can make jokes about you being finger ling ling good?

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OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 05-27-2005 06:14:04 PM
quote:
Sean painfully thought these words up:
Calm down, sparky. We needed a deus ex machina, so I picked my favorite. Impulse/Kid Flash is one of my favorite DC characters.

No no, clearly the Emperor has A MOTHER BOX!!

..:: This Is The Sound Of Settling ::..
Sean
posted 05-27-2005 06:54:35 PM
quote:
Because OtakuPenguin is my friend.
No no, clearly the Emperor has A MOTHER BOX!!

The Joker's dead.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 05-27-2005 06:55:40 PM
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OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 05-28-2005 02:13:19 PM
quote:
Sean's account was hax0red to write:
The Joker's dead.

I'll bet Jason will become the Joker.

Red Hood ---> Joker
Robin ---> Red Hood ---> Joker

See what I'm getting at here?

..:: This Is The Sound Of Settling ::..
Snugglits
I LIKE TO ABUSE THE ALERT MOD BUTTON AND I ENJOY THE FLAVOR OF SWEET SWEET COCK.
posted 05-28-2005 02:47:05 PM
quote:
Azizza wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
I thought about that in the theater. The guys spends half his time doubled over coughing when he is walking around, yet he was able to walk out in space with no problems, and then had the energy to go toe to talon with Obi Wan.

Another thing that really bugged me was the complete lack of realistic physics in the space battles. I mean yeah in the other movies they had some questionable stuff. The ships moves sorta like they were in the atmosphere but not completely. In this one they didnt' even pretend anymore. The little buzz-saw bots sliding off the wings like there was some sort of drag on them the landing of a cruiser that had lost 2/3 of it's mass, etc.


Any connection between the phyiscs in Star Wars and the phyiscs in real life is completely accidental.

Lucas r dum

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Mr. Crabs
Pancake
posted 05-28-2005 02:55:10 PM
quote:
Verily, OtakuPenguin doth proclaim:
I'll bet Jason will become the Joker.

Red Hood ---> Joker
Robin ---> Red Hood ---> Joker

See what I'm getting at here?


I doubt the Joker is even dead.

I get what you're saying but that would be kinda lame. Also, after reading the newest issue, it seems that the writers are going for a kind of "Punisher" angle for the new Red Hood.

There's a King on a throne with his eyes torn out.
There's a Blind Man looking for a shadow of doubt.
There's a Rich Man sleeping on a golden bed.
There's a Skeleton choking on a crust of bread.
Gunslinger Moogle
No longer a gimmick
posted 05-28-2005 06:28:31 PM
quote:
Azizza's momma typed this shizzle:
I thought about that in the theater. The guys spends half his time doubled over coughing when he is walking around, yet he was able to walk out in space with no problems, and then had the energy to go toe to talon with Obi Wan.

Another thing that really bugged me was the complete lack of realistic physics in the space battles. I mean yeah in the other movies they had some questionable stuff. The ships moves sorta like they were in the atmosphere but not completely. In this one they didnt' even pretend anymore. The little buzz-saw bots sliding off the wings like there was some sort of drag on them the landing of a cruiser that had lost 2/3 of it's mass, etc.


Everything I've seen suggests that space in Star Wars is oxygenated. The sonic bombs used by Jango Fett, the pyrotechnic explosions, the fact that so few people bother wearing space suits, the drag, Grievous walking outside....




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Sean
posted 05-28-2005 06:30:24 PM
quote:
Ahh man, I shot OtakuPenguin in the face.
See what I'm getting at here?

If Joker and Wonder Girl both aren't dead, they fucking should be. And it's not like they won't be back inside of a year, anyhow.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

UBT
Pancake
posted 05-28-2005 09:09:48 PM
quote:
Verily, Gunslinger Moogle doth proclaim:
Everything I've seen suggests that space in Star Wars is oxygenated. The sonic bombs used by Jango Fett, the pyrotechnic explosions, the fact that so few people bother wearing space suits, the drag, Grievous walking outside....

Not to mention when Leia, Han Solo, and Chewbacca were running around in a "cave" with only oxygen masks on.

Snugglits
I LIKE TO ABUSE THE ALERT MOD BUTTON AND I ENJOY THE FLAVOR OF SWEET SWEET COCK.
posted 05-28-2005 09:38:52 PM
No, space isn't "oxygenated"/atmospheric, Lucas is just stupid.

Even disregarding frictional force from contact with anything like an "air" in space, there's still ram force to fight. It's ram force, not frictional force/drag, that destroys nearly anything that comes into our atmosphere. Ram force is generated by contact of any two objects moving at different speeds, regardless if one of them is a fluid, unlike frictional force.

Anything moving even "kind of fast" in space terms would generate a tremendous amount of ram force were there oxygen about. Hell, it would pull planets out of their orbits.

There's another thing, too, that makes it impossible for oxygen to be all about. When the shuttle enters the atmosphere, its speed and heat force oxygen to ionize around it. Because of this, the shuttle or any other vessel cannot make radio contact with any object on Earth during reentry. Every ship in Star Wars moving with a fairly decent speed would suffer from this (and it would also have a giant white trail along it, as well).

When watching any Star Wars movie, the best thing you can do is shut your brain off and enjoy the shinies. That's what Star Wars is and always has been about. Or any other movie, for that matter.*

*Except for a few, but those never sell many tickets and most people don't know they exist.

Snugglits fucked around with this message on 05-28-2005 at 09:39 PM.

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Jackman
Racist Hermaphroditic Midget
posted 05-28-2005 10:38:25 PM
Silent Running for example?
Peter: I'm not afraid of anything, I laugh in the face of Death. See HAHAHAHA.
Death: Oh great! Thanks a lot. As if it wasnt already hard enough to fit in.

Some people are like Slinkys... Not really good for anything, But they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 05-28-2005 10:55:34 PM
quote:
Channeling the spirit of Sherlock Holmes, Snugglits absently fondled Watson and proclaimed:
No, space isn't "oxygenated"/atmospheric, Lucas is just stupid.

Even disregarding frictional force from contact with anything like an "air" in space, there's still ram force to fight. It's ram force, not frictional force/drag, that destroys nearly anything that comes into our atmosphere. Ram force is generated by contact of any two objects moving at different speeds, regardless if one of them is a fluid, unlike frictional force.

Anything moving even "kind of fast" in space terms would generate a tremendous amount of ram force were there oxygen about. Hell, it would pull planets out of their orbits.

There's another thing, too, that makes it impossible for oxygen to be all about. When the shuttle enters the atmosphere, its speed and heat force oxygen to ionize around it. Because of this, the shuttle or any other vessel cannot make radio contact with any object on Earth during reentry. Every ship in Star Wars moving with a fairly decent speed would suffer from this (and it would also have a giant white trail along it, as well).

When watching any Star Wars movie, the best thing you can do is shut your brain off and enjoy the shinies. That's what Star Wars is and always has been about. Or any other movie, for that matter.*

*Except for a few, but those never sell many tickets and most people don't know they exist.


"Ram force"? What on earth are you talking about?

What destroys meteor in atmosphere, and causes the shuttle to heat up is friction. Friction causes drag, which puts a practical upper limit on in-atmosphere speeds. Note that friction does not require one surface to be a liquid--that's why the coefficient of friction between your tires and the driving surface is important when determining handling characteristics.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Snugglits
I LIKE TO ABUSE THE ALERT MOD BUTTON AND I ENJOY THE FLAVOR OF SWEET SWEET COCK.
posted 05-29-2005 12:50:54 AM
quote:
Bloodsage was listening to Cher while typing:
"Ram force"? What on earth are you talking about?

What destroys meteor in atmosphere, and causes the shuttle to heat up is friction. Friction causes drag, which puts a practical upper limit on in-atmosphere speeds. Note that friction does not require one surface to be a liquid--that's why the coefficient of friction between your tires and the driving surface is important when determining handling characteristics.


I got the phrase wrong, it's "ram pressure" (woops, CE, not ME here ). But, click and be educated. If friction were the only cause of destruction for things moving quickly through the atmosphere, then things would burn up on the leading edge only. This is not how they behave.

Think about it. Have you ever seen anything reenter ever? It breaks up into smaller pieces. Columbia didn't burn up on its leading edges only, it smashed into many pieces (which subsequently burned up on their leading edges).

And, of course friction doesn't involve liquids only. I should have clarified; I meant the kind that involves the square of velocity... drag. Not dry friction.

Snugglits fucked around with this message on 05-29-2005 at 12:53 AM.

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Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 05-29-2005 01:21:55 AM
Yes, ram pressure is a real thing--that's how ramjets and scramjets work. But when you start talking about "ram force," you confuzzle me. Didn't know that's what it's called, so cool.
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Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

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