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Topic: Guess who just saw Episode III
Nae
Fun with Chocolate
posted 05-24-2005 11:16:10 AM
quote:
We were all impressed when Vorago wrote:
A bunch of good stuff.

That is exactly how I understood it!

Blackened
posted 05-24-2005 11:38:38 AM
I thought the gist behind Anakin bringing balance to the force was that he achieved this through Luke?

Blackened fucked around with this message on 05-24-2005 at 11:39 AM.


Although my distaste for you as a human being is brobdingnagian,
what I'm about to do isn't personal.
Sean
posted 05-24-2005 11:42:11 AM
quote:
Because Blackened is my friend.
I thought the gist behind Anakin bringing balance to the force was that he achieved this through Luke?

I thought the gist behind Anakin bringing balance to the force was that Lucas just needed some reason to put him in the spotlight above all other Jedi before there was ever a hint of him becoming Darth Vader.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 05-24-2005 05:59:56 PM
"Master Yoda, what does the prophecy say?"
"Teams plz"
Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
Gadani
U
posted 05-24-2005 10:27:10 PM
quote:
How.... Sentow, Maybe.... uughhhhhh:
"Master Yoda, what does the prophecy say?"
"Teams plz"

Ha ha!

-Yuri-
Pancake
posted 05-24-2005 11:27:19 PM
quote:
System.out.println("Blackened said this:");
I thought the gist behind Anakin bringing balance to the force was that he achieved this through Luke?

I thought that the actual prophecy was misread. Yoda says as much.

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 05-24-2005 11:38:56 PM
I thought that the point of Anakin bringing balance to the force was to continue the half-assed Jesus metaphor by counteracting original sin.
To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Kait
has made another completely pointless and off-topic post that nobody cares about
posted 05-24-2005 11:41:13 PM
quote:
Blackened had this to say about Punky Brewster:
Christianson's acting was much better than Episode II, thank god. But I still think the role as Anakin could have been better placed.

Johnny Depp! Haha, just kidding.
But really, it's a tough call. Whoever played the role has the power to make or break the movie.
But isn't that true with most lead roles?

Did you hear? Topher's gonna play Venom

"A black cat dropped soundlessly from a high wall, like a spoonful of dark treacle and melted under the gate."
-Elizabeth Lemarchand
Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 05-24-2005 11:42:36 PM
quote:
So quoth Kait:
Johnny Depp!

You are aware that he's in his 40s, right?

Drysart
Pancake
posted 05-25-2005 12:37:01 AM
quote:
Bloodsage came out of the closet to say:
I thought that the point of Anakin bringing balance to the force was to continue the half-assed Jesus metaphor by counteracting original sin.

I love when people try to shoehorn in Jesus metaphors into Star Wars.


Hey, Anakin did bring balance to the Force. Look at the galaxy at the start of Episode I -- thousands of Jedi, two Sith. Then look at the galaxy at the end of Episode III -- two Jedi, two Sith.

I wonder if the Jedi would have had such a hardon for bringing balance to the Force if they knew it meant giving up their pretty cushy situation.

Kait
has made another completely pointless and off-topic post that nobody cares about
posted 05-25-2005 12:38:03 AM
quote:
Vorbis stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
You are aware that he's in his 40s, right?

Yes, quite.
He is aged to perfection

"A black cat dropped soundlessly from a high wall, like a spoonful of dark treacle and melted under the gate."
-Elizabeth Lemarchand
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 05-25-2005 12:45:08 AM
quote:
Quoth Drysart:
I love when people try to shoehorn in Jesus metaphors into Star Wars.


Hey, Anakin did bring balance to the Force. Look at the galaxy at the start of Episode I -- thousands of Jedi, two Sith. Then look at the galaxy at the end of Episode III -- two Jedi, two Sith.

I wonder if the Jedi would have had such a hardon for bringing balance to the Force if they knew it meant giving up their pretty cushy situation.


Yes, because that whole immaculate conception thing wasn't both out of the blue and extremely silly. I'm not shoehorning it in; Lucas is beating everyone over the head with it.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Snugglits
I LIKE TO ABUSE THE ALERT MOD BUTTON AND I ENJOY THE FLAVOR OF SWEET SWEET COCK.
posted 05-25-2005 12:46:17 AM
Honestly, how do you see a Jesus figure in Neo, anyway? You'd have to be looking for it to see it.

And the "Jedi religion" has no similarities to any other religion on Earth, especially in Eastern Asia.

Snugglits fucked around with this message on 05-25-2005 at 12:47 AM.

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Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 05-25-2005 12:49:25 AM
quote:
Snugglits wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Honestly, how do you see a Jesus figure in Neo, anyway? You'd have to be looking for it to see it.

And the "Jedi religion" has no similarities to any other religion on Earth, especially in Eastern Asia.


Actually, Lucas modelled the "Jedi religion" heavily after Buhddism.

Or was that sarcasm?

Densetsu fucked around with this message on 05-25-2005 at 12:50 AM.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 05-25-2005 12:51:42 AM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Densetsu wrote:
Actually, Lucas modelled the "Jedi religion" heavily after Buhddism.

Or was that sarcasm?


I think you need to get your sarcasm detector recalibrated--it's acting rather obtuse.

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 05-25-2005 12:51:58 AM
Anakin DID bring balance to the force.

He just did it AFTER his fall to the dark side. When he turned good again and killed the emperor, that was when he brought about balance

Or, that's my theory, at least.

Khyron fucked around with this message on 05-25-2005 at 12:54 AM.

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 05-25-2005 12:53:06 AM
quote:
Verily, the chocolate bunny rabits doth run and play while Snugglits gently hums:
Honestly, how do you see a Jesus figure in Neo, anyway? You'd have to be looking for it to see it.

And the "Jedi religion" has no similarities to any other religion on Earth, especially in Eastern Asia.


When did we start talking about the Matrix?

And what other reason would there be for the midiwhatsits to spontaneously create Anakin that isn't accomplished by him being born normally but with exceptional talent in the force?

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

New Age Bane
Waste Management Crisis
posted 05-25-2005 01:01:07 AM
I thought Leia's son Anakin brought balance to the force or something.
What am I supposed to in here again? Oh yes something witty and oh so pretty!
LeMiere
posted 05-25-2005 01:47:05 AM
quote:
Drysart said this about your mom:
I love when people try to shoehorn in Jesus metaphors into Star Wars.


Hey, Anakin did bring balance to the Force. Look at the galaxy at the start of Episode I -- thousands of Jedi, two Sith. Then look at the galaxy at the end of Episode III -- two Jedi, two Sith.

I wonder if the Jedi would have had such a hardon for bringing balance to the Force if they knew it meant giving up their pretty cushy situation.


I think Yoda beats us over the head with this idea. Misread that prophecy, jedi did.

He seems so wary of 'the chose one' legend. He almost looks like he doesn't want it to happen in episode two. Kinda like an, "I'm not so much ready for this Chose One. Kinda like to wait until I'm 900 years old."

What's actually nice about Star Wars is- if you want to believe it... the characters look like they could be playing along. It's all about perception. Does Yoda know a hell of a lot more than he appears to? Certainly -seems- like it. Is he like an annoying DM's character that comes along to guide the plot? Yep. Even has those really high stats that shouldn't exist.

Drysart
Pancake
posted 05-25-2005 04:53:51 AM
quote:
Bloodsage came out of the closet to say:
Yes, because that whole immaculate conception thing wasn't both out of the blue and extremely silly. I'm not shoehorning it in; Lucas is beating everyone over the head with it.

Jesus is hardly the only fatherless son myth in history.

Sean
posted 05-25-2005 08:10:31 AM
quote:
New Age Bane, what the hell are you doin' out here? You oughta be in bed.
I thought Leia's son Anakin brought balance to the force or something.

More like got his shit fucked up by an alien race.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Jackman
Racist Hermaphroditic Midget
posted 05-25-2005 08:19:06 AM
I wonder if the balence was because there were so few Sith they had more power than the average Jedi or Jedi's combined?
Peter: I'm not afraid of anything, I laugh in the face of Death. See HAHAHAHA.
Death: Oh great! Thanks a lot. As if it wasnt already hard enough to fit in.

Some people are like Slinkys... Not really good for anything, But they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 05-25-2005 09:17:13 AM
quote:
Verily, the chocolate bunny rabits doth run and play while Drysart gently hums:
Jesus is hardly the only fatherless son myth in history.

That's true. He is, however, the most well-known to Lucas' audience. Given the rest of the films, I just don't buy any deep subtleties on Lucas' part, or references to obscure myth.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 05-25-2005 09:40:53 AM
quote:
Bloodsage had this to say about (_|_):
That's true. He is, however, the most well-known to Lucas' audience. Given the rest of the films, I just don't buy any deep subtleties on Lucas' part, or references to obscure myth.

Actually, it was either Plagus or Sideous that "created" Anakin ("Influenced the midichlorians to create life").

..:: This Is The Sound Of Settling ::..
Snugglits
I LIKE TO ABUSE THE ALERT MOD BUTTON AND I ENJOY THE FLAVOR OF SWEET SWEET COCK.
posted 05-25-2005 09:44:41 AM
OtakuPenguin's head would sink in molten lead.
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Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 05-25-2005 01:18:26 PM
quote:
So quoth OtakuPenguin:
Actually, it was either Plagus or Sideous that "created" Anakin ("Influenced the midichlorians to create life").

That's not proof that either of them did it. It was just an excuse to control Anakin. For all we know, Darth Plagus never even existed.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 05-25-2005 02:50:38 PM
quote:
Densetsu must think they're pretty smart:
That's not proof that either of them did it. It was just an excuse to control Anakin. For all we know, Darth Plagus never even existed.

For all we know, Anakin's mom was a whore but didn't want to tell that to Qui-Gon.

Sean
posted 05-25-2005 03:01:08 PM
quote:
Blindy. didn't get much USO. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat. He had only two ways home: death, or victory.
For all we know, Anakin's mom was a whore but didn't want to tell that to Qui-Gon.

She did fuck him on their first meeting, so it's not that far fetched an idea.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Nae
Fun with Chocolate
posted 05-25-2005 03:04:05 PM
quote:
Sean stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
She did fuck him on their first meeting, so it's not that far fetched an idea.

I think you saw a different movie than I did. If Qui-Gon was getting it on with anyone, I woulda liked to have seen it.


*edit fo capitalization that was totAlLy wRongz0r

Nae fucked around with this message on 05-25-2005 at 03:04 PM.

Azymyth
Not gay; just weird
posted 05-25-2005 03:09:31 PM
quote:
Densetsu wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
That's not proof that either of them did it. It was just an excuse to control Anakin. For all we know, Darth Plagus never even existed.
Well, my impression was that Plagus had been Sidious' mentor, whom Sidious killed.

In a way, the Dark Side has/had a constant sort of balance. There's always been one master and one apprentice. The Jedi were practically a franchise.

I suffer from CRS: Can't Remember Shit.

Sig pic done by the very talented SJen!

Jackman
Racist Hermaphroditic Midget
posted 05-25-2005 03:12:23 PM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Blindy. wrote:
For all we know, Anakin's mom was a whore but didn't want to tell that to Qui-Gon.

MMM in that case maybe Anakin was the result of the rape by 101 insane serial killers (al la Fredrick Kruger)

Peter: I'm not afraid of anything, I laugh in the face of Death. See HAHAHAHA.
Death: Oh great! Thanks a lot. As if it wasnt already hard enough to fit in.

Some people are like Slinkys... Not really good for anything, But they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

Sean
posted 05-25-2005 03:29:25 PM
quote:
Entertain me with more of your bullshit, Nae.
I think you saw a different movie than I did. If Qui-Gon was getting it on with anyone, I woulda liked to have seen it.

Liam Neeson specifically asked Lucas regarding some ambiguity in the writing between Qui-Gon and Shmi. He was unsure how to look at her in-character during a cut scene; as a friend, or as a friend.

They bumped uglies.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Nae
Fun with Chocolate
posted 05-25-2005 03:34:09 PM
quote:
Sean had this to say about Punky Brewster:
Liam Neeson specifically asked Lucas regarding some ambiguity in the writing between Qui-Gon and Shmi. He was unsure how to look at her in-character during a cut scene; as a friend, or as a friend.

They bumped uglies.


Can you provide evidence to that? I honestly never saw any sort of sexual implications in the film.

In fact, I thought their looks were more like her knowing that he would want to take Anakin away, and him being slightly embarrassed that he would ask a mother to give up her child. Especially since he couldn't save her from slavery as well.

Sean
posted 05-25-2005 03:49:41 PM
quote:
Why, Nae! where you goin' with that shotgun?
Can you provide evidence to that? I honestly never saw any sort of sexual implications in the film.

Stuck at work, can't fire up my Phantom Menace DVD for interviews, so here's a bit from IMDB's trivia section;

quote:
Liam Neeson convinced George Lucas to keep a scene where Qui-Gon Jinn puts his hand on Shmi Skywalker's shoulder. Lucas felt this might be out of character for the monk-like Jedi, but Neeson thought there should be an emotional connection between the characters. In an interview with Premiere magazine, Neeson defended his action, saying, "It may be 'Star Wars', but we've got to have something in there for the adults."
A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Maradon!
posted 05-25-2005 04:41:16 PM
Did anyone else notice that because of Anakin, by the time Ep4 rolls around there are only two Sith and two Jedi left in the universe?

Seems pretty balanced to me.

Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 05-25-2005 11:39:20 PM
I'm fairly confident that the Chosen One nonsense was a plot twist that Lucas didn't know what to do with, so he left it unresolved and allowed the fans to fill in the blanks individually. I seriously doubt there's any definitive answer to this question which can be divined from the movies.

EDIT: If I'm wrong, then I'm inclined to agree that the prophecy meant Anakin would decimate the Jedi and reverse the roles they and the Sith traditionally held: one is a dominant force in the galaxy while the other is scattered and relegated to the shadows.

HEY!

I just thought of this. Did anyone ever actually tell Anakin he was believed to be the Chosen One before he went to Mustafar? That puts a whole new spin on the end of his and Obi-Wan's duel.

"YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!"
"I HATE Y-wait, what?"
"I mean, uh, you ever tried Pepsi One?"
"I HATE PEPSI ONE!"

Sentow, Maybe fucked around with this message on 05-25-2005 at 11:48 PM.

Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
Gydyon
Yes, I am a lawyer. No you can't sue them for that. Shut up, or I'll have your legs broken.
posted 05-26-2005 11:26:40 AM
quote:
When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Sentow, Maybe said:
"YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!"
"I HATE Y-wait, what?"
"I mean, uh, you ever tried Pepsi One?"
"I HATE PEPSI ONE!"

I like Pepsi One.

Gydyon
Evercrest Lawyer

Thinking about your posts
(and billing you for it) since 2001

Il Buono
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend.
posted 05-26-2005 03:47:40 PM
quote:
Did they say why, Gydyon, why they want you to terminate my command?
I like Pepsi One.

With rum, right?

"Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
Gydyon
Yes, I am a lawyer. No you can't sue them for that. Shut up, or I'll have your legs broken.
posted 05-26-2005 07:00:53 PM
quote:
D stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
With rum, right?

No, with My Malibu I never go sugar free. Screw that, you're drinking, just drink. If you were really worried about your diet you's be eating a lettuce leaf, not drinking rum.

Gydyon
Evercrest Lawyer

Thinking about your posts
(and billing you for it) since 2001

TheOriginalZane
Pancake
posted 05-26-2005 07:21:56 PM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Gydyon:
No, with My Malibu I never go sugar free. Screw that, you're drinking, just drink. If you were really worried about your diet you's be eating a lettuce leaf, not drinking rum.

White rum has no carbs.

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