Take your goddamn shit elsewhere, chickenfucker.
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Check out the big brain on Ryuujin!
What the fuck, guys.
Sorry, Ryuujin. 
My friend just saw them and pissed his pants. TheOriginalZane fucked around with this message on 03-01-2005 at 07:03 PM.
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Mod painfully thought these words up:
I don't do drugs myself and never have but some of you people are seriously overdramatizing the effects of pot. Some people manage to drink alcohol in some amount of moderation, even get drunk from time to time and lead perfectly decent lives, just as some people get drunk every night and then go home and beat their kids with a crowbar. The same applies to pot, your life isn't instantly on the brink of ruin by smoking up with your friends every once in a while.Oh and Gains that's seriously messed up, forgiving a murderer is one thing but just not giving a damn in the first place if people get killed unless it directly hurts you awfully self-centered.
That is exactly that I do not understand about this board.
Alcohol is by no means good for you. Marijuana is by no means good for you.
Someone has a drink every once in awhile? Awesome, people have no problem.
Someone smokes a joint every once in awhile? There life is over. They are doomed to fail. They no longer make sense when they talk. They are evil, evil people.
I honestly do not understand the reasoning behind peoples views on marijuana. I really want to understand where people are coming from, believe me. I would love to have an actual discussion about this, no name calling, no personal attacks, I just want to understand peoples reasoning.
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Caid '5 Fists' Berrit said this:
That is exactly that I do not understand about this board.Alcohol is by no means good for you. Marijuana is by no means good for you.
Someone has a drink every once in awhile? Awesome, people have no problem.
Someone smokes a joint every once in awhile? There life is over. They are doomed to fail. They no longer make sense when they talk. They are evil, evil people.I honestly do not understand the reasoning behind peoples views on marijuana. I really want to understand where people are coming from, believe me. I would love to have an actual discussion about this, no name calling, no personal attacks, I just want to understand peoples reasoning.
One is illegal. One is not. It all boils down to that.
Liam fucked around with this message on 03-01-2005 at 07:50 PM.
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Liam said this:
As soon as I posted that I realized I was baiting!
Now you are making an analogy like my murder one! omgz
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-Yuri- had this to say about Robocop:
One is illegal. One is not. It all boils down to that.
That's the most bullshit answer I've ever heard. I can't honestly believe that's the sole reason for everyones anti-pot mindset.
Everyones choice to drink or not, is a respected decision. Why is the decision to smoke pot not respected? Caid '5 Fists' Berrit fucked around with this message on 03-01-2005 at 07:52 PM.
edit that was to liam -Yuri- fucked around with this message on 03-01-2005 at 07:51 PM.
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Caid '5 Fists' Berrit said this:
That's the most bullshit answer I've ever heard. I can't honestly believe that's the sole reason for everyones anti-pot mindset.
I didn't say everyone. I was speaking for myself
Who drinks heavily? Winston Churchill did. Ernest Hemingway did. Tons of rich socialites drink. Alcoholism has been refined to an extremely social sport.
Who smokes pot? Bane.
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Mr. Parcelan's account was hax0red to write:
Society.Who drinks heavily? Winston Churchill did. Ernest Hemingway did. Tons of rich socialites drink. Alcoholism has been refined to an extremely social sport.
Who smokes pot? Bane.
I dont know about Winston Churchill, but Ernest Hemingway blew his brains out with a gun if I recall correctly (or maybe that was his dad.)
I do know Ernest became hyper-paranoid and seperated himself from society to a life of doing nothing but writing and drinking... until it became a life of drinking.
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent -Yuri- said:
One is illegal. One is not. It all boils down to that.
...you let law decide everything for you?
Waisz fucked around with this message on 03-01-2005 at 08:15 PM.
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So quoth Manticore:
I dont know about Winston Churchill, but Ernest Hemingway blew his brains out with a gun if I recall correctly (or maybe that was his dad.)I do know Ernest became hyper-paranoid and seperated himself from society to a life of doing nothing but writing and drinking... until it became a life of drinking.
With many contributions to society.
And Winston Churchill helped end World War II.
What has someone like Bane done for us lately?
"There are no great pothead writers. Do you know why? Because nobody wants to read a 457 page novel on why if you put a hat and glasses on a dog it looks like he could drive a truck."
Regardless, it's far more socially acceptable to drink than it is to smoke pot.
It doesn't make it okay, I'm just saying... It isn't impossible for them to contribute.
I don't think legality comes into play, because nobody here bitches anyone out for drinking underage, that I've seen.
And I wish the Login servers were up so I'd stop posting.
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Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Knight Rider:
With many contributions to society.And Winston Churchill helped end World War II.
What has someone like Bane done for us lately?
"There are no great pothead writers. Do you know why? Because nobody wants to read a 457 page novel on why if you put a hat and glasses on a dog it looks like he could drive a truck."
Regardless, it's far more socially acceptable to drink than it is to smoke pot.
No great pothead writers? Read Dave Barry.
What has someone like Bane done for us lately? George Bush smoked pot... OMG you're right, he hasn't done anything good for us lately.
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Suddar had this to say about John Romero:
sxe
we're so sxey 
war's so succexy
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Manticore had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
No great pothead writers? Read Dave Barry.
What has someone like Bane done for us lately? George Bush smoked pot... OMG you're right, he hasn't done anything good for us lately.
Dave Barry blows. He's hardly culture-changing.
Meanwhile, you're attempting to pull a political attack in hopes of aggravating more people. Since you don't seem particularly bright, I'll take the opportunity to remind you that this is against the forum rules. In the future, please heed them, as attempting to rile people up isn't much of a substitute for an actual hard argument.
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From the book of -Yuri-, chapter 3, verse 16:
That's a great mentality to have. Let's apply that to murder.All this murderer bashing is stupid. They murder people. You don't. Their perogative, their gun, get over it. And murderers, keep it to yourself. "omg i kill people" isn't funny on the intraweb.
Let's just let people do whatever they want! Who cares if it is illegal! Darwinism at its finest!
You can't spell manslaughter witout laughter. 
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Kinanik probably says this to all the girls:
Actually, I think it was made illegal because the supreme court at the time would not allow immigration regulations, and smoking marijuana was smoked more by mexican immagrants... I haven't checked this, but I'm 95% sure it was illegal before Vietnam
Correct, at least is Southwest states. I remember catching something about it on History channel the one day.
Edit: Though in more modern context you could maybe bring health into the equation of keeping it banned. 5x(Or something like that) more tar in a marijuana cigarette than a traditional one. Even filtered it would be far worse. And heavy carcinogens have definitely been cut down by The Man. Alaan fucked around with this message on 03-02-2005 at 01:21 AM.
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TheOriginalZane had this to say about Robocop:
You can't spell manslaughter witout laughter.
You can't pronounce 'Sacajawea' without saying 'Sock a Jew.'
I know tons of people who do or did smoke weed to relax or for fun. All of them had their lives perfectly under control. Some of them are now nurses, engineers, lawyers or doctors.
Of course, according to some members of this board, if they would not have smoked weed, their lives would be much better, and they would have won several nobel prizes and married super models by now. Or something.
In my experience(about a dozen friends who did it on a regular basis), weed/grass is far less dangerous than alcohol. People do far less stupid stuff, aren't aggressive, and while a few of my friends had to go to a hospital because of alcohol poisoning, not one had a health problem because of weed.
Of course, weed isn't socially accepted like alcohol, so in some people's minds it is automatically EVIL. Myself included. As I first saw some of friends consuming weed, I was alienated too. And I would be alienated again, if I saw them doing something stronger than weed.
So, to come to an end, I do not encourage anyone to smoke weed. As much as I do not ancourage anyone to drink alcohol (unless I'm drunk, perhaps 
). I had a million chances to try weed, and I did not. But I do not blame anyone on doing it.
If you want to do something behind closed doors and not harm anyone else while doing it, feel free.
When what you do harms someone else, though, I have a problem with it. Harms them in any way, shape or form. Direct or Indirect. It is your life and you have the right to do as you please with it so long as you don't step on someone else's toes.
Want to smoke pot in your own home? Go right ahead. Get drunk off your ass? Again, go ahead. So long as you harm noone else with it, feel free. If you do it enough and end up in the hospital, that's your fault.
When you're stealing money or some such to pay for it, though, that's a problem.
Now...smoke pot in front of or near me? Bad. Drink and Drive? Bad. Hell, smoke cigarettes near me and I'll ask you to move or, if I'm somewhere where I should expect smoke, I'll move.
Personally, I don't smoke pot and likely never will. I do drink alcohol, but do so in moderation. And I don't drive for the rest of the night. Everything in moderation is how the phrase goes, I believe.
In essence, I'm just saying be considerate of others. I have no problem with people that are considerate with their habits. I just have a problem with inconsiderate people.
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Nobody really understood why Alaan wrote:
Correct, at least is Southwest states. I remember catching something about it on History channel the one day.Edit: Though in more modern context you could maybe bring health into the equation of keeping it banned. 5x(Or something like that) more tar in a marijuana cigarette than a traditional one. Even filtered it would be far worse. And heavy carcinogens have definitely been cut down by The Man.
But you have to realize the cost of a pack of marijuana cigarette's would be alot more than the cost of a pack of normal cigarettes. Also one Marijuana cigarette will keep you going for 4 hours or so, so people would consume them less often. So healthwise it would probably even out in the end due to consumption.
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From the book of Mr. Parcelan, chapter 3, verse 16:
With many contributions to society.And Winston Churchill helped end World War II.
What has someone like Bane done for us lately?
"There are no great pothead writers. Do you know why? Because nobody wants to read a 457 page novel on why if you put a hat and glasses on a dog it looks like he could drive a truck."
Regardless, it's far more socially acceptable to drink than it is to smoke pot.
I seem to recall it being believed that Shakespear smoked pot, as did Poe (along with many other drugs). So there have been at least a couple.
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Taylen had this to say about John Romero:
I seem to recall it being believed that Shakespear smoked pot, as did Poe (along with many other drugs). So there have been at least a couple.
Believed.
Every great writer has had something wrong with him. Pot isn't a big one, though. Alcohol, most definitely. Incest and pedophilia, of course. Dwarfism and non-descended genitalia, yes. Opium, hell yeah. But pot? No.
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How.... Alaan.... uughhhhhh:
Correct, at least is Southwest states. I remember catching something about it on History channel the one day.Edit: Though in more modern context you could maybe bring health into the equation of keeping it banned. 5x(Or something like that) more tar in a marijuana cigarette than a traditional one. Even filtered it would be far worse. And heavy carcinogens have definitely been cut down by The Man.
Do you have a link to support that? I've heard that claim many times but not once have found a study linked to it.
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Mr. Parcelan obviously shouldn't have said:
Dave Barry blows. He's hardly culture-changing.Meanwhile, you're attempting to pull a political attack in hopes of aggravating more people. Since you don't seem particularly bright, I'll take the opportunity to remind you that this is against the forum rules. In the future, please heed them, as attempting to rile people up isn't much of a substitute for an actual hard argument.
A) You said nothing about making huge cultural changes in your attack on Writers who smoke weed. Taken from your quote: "There are no great pothead writers." The term 'great' is subjective and has many meanings. My opinion of a great writer is obviously different from your opinion. For instance, I'd be the first person to agree that "Farewell to Arms" is an amazing book, but "Old Man and the Sea" just wasn't my type of book.
B) I am not pulling a political attack. You said "What has someone like Bane done for us lately?". "Someone like Bane", following the logic of this conversation, you meant someone who smokes weed. George W. Bush smoked pot, and I used him as a valid example as someone who "has done something for us lately". Obviously however, since he once smoked pot, I am mistaken.
Also, "you don't seem particularly bright..." doesn't seem to fit in this arguement since I'm not the one laying down blanket statements and using argumentum ad hominem (That means the arguement is attacking the person.) In fact, your second paragraph says nothing to the arguement at all.
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Mr. Parcelan painfully thought these words up:
Believed.Every great writer has had something wrong with him. Pot isn't a big one, though. Alcohol, most definitely. Incest and pedophilia, of course. Dwarfism and non-descended genitalia, yes. Opium, hell yeah. But pot? No.
Look at most of our musicians and writers from the third quarter of the 19th Century.
The Beatles, for instance. Jimi Hendrix did far worse things than marijuana (and you can't say heroin isn't as bad as marijuana).
And then look at writers like Ginsberg and Kerouac, to name only a couple.
Edit: Oops, wrong account. This is Lashanna. Marien Sutoma fucked around with this message on 03-02-2005 at 09:41 AM.
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We were all impressed when -Yuri- wrote:
Trying to rationalize and say that people who smoke pot can contribute to society is pointless when there's movies like Half Baked out.
I'm not saying it's perfectly acceptable.
I'm refuting the fact that Parcelan basically said just that: marijuana users can't contribute to society
There's highly destructive, deadly and rightly illegal drugs, but I really don't see what the case against pot is. It is not physically addictive, it has no worse long-term effects than smoking, and it does not trigger violent reactions in people like alcohol does.
Save your hate for heroin, E or any of the other drugs with heavily addictive traits and severe long-term effects. You can do more damage to yourself with legal glue than you can smoking pot.
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Lashanna wrote this stupid crap:
I'm refuting the fact that Parcelan basically said just that: marijuana users can't contribute to society
I was going to say I don't recall any marijuana in Thompson's trunk on his trip to Vegas, but I had to check myself and it seemed that, in fact, he did have two bags of grass. Along with seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a saltshaker half-full of cocaine, and a whole multi colored collection of uppers, downers, laughers, screamers. Also, a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether, and two dozen amyls.
It's not something people hear about.
