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Topic: Vampires need doctors too
Zaile Ghostmaker
You've gotta remember, I'm an EverQuest character.
posted 01-13-2004 02:09:25 AM
You know, if a_c_d needs some blood to drink, I'm sure Karnaj would gladly supply it.
I find that most problems can be solved by excessive violence.

It is held in thought
only by the understanding
of the Wind.

Drysart
Pancake
posted 01-13-2004 02:14:19 AM
quote:
angelus_cretus_deus scribbled:
you knwo something. i'v grown board of all this. i try to be civil, and have nice conversation, and i'm assulted and insulted. it was ammusing at first, but arrogance has become the atmosphere at hand. i know that if i leave now, you will feel some sadistic sence of vindication, but i'm fin with that. i'll even break down for you...

"you'v wone, i'm just a whiny and patheci kid looking for atention. my dad ran out on my mom,and being a vampire is the only way i can fit in."

dose that make you happy. i hope it dose. sniker on that while you play your little games. i realized a few moments ago just how little i acutlay care aobut any of this (tho, you'll probably use my act of writing a letter itself in some way. hell i would, you'd be stupid not to. but really it's jsut becosue of that one guy who "devils advocated" me). this is a board about games. your the ones who spend your time living out fantasy. hell, i may very well be deluted and nutso, but at least i live my life.

you know what, it dos'nt even matter. you'v won, if it makes oyu happy, if it gets you off. i just don't care any more. this jsut is'nt worth my time. i get no pleasure form this, but you, you seem to relish in it. in seemingly (at least in your own mind) prooving a line of text on a computer screen wrong. honestly, who is the sick one?

well, toodles all.
and have fun living it up, as i'm sure you will.


I didn't read this post.

Taylen
Pancake
posted 01-13-2004 08:45:49 AM
Just in case he ever does come back. Wait, they always come back, why am I saying if?

I have seen mildly dyslexic people type and spell a hell of alot better than that. I'm fairly majorly dyslexic and I can type and spell alot better than that without the benifit of a spell checker. Though I do have a tendancy to transppose the occasional letter when typing at a faster speed, all it takes is a couple seconds to look at the words as I type and see if I have transposed letters.

"When correctly viewed, everything is lewd." - Tom Lehrer.
Sadomasochism: It's Fun!
Taylen Ashenbow
Rangers never run we mearly stratigically retreat.
Thats not a train thats a pull, my trains are always much bigger.
Niklas
hay guys whats going on in this title?
posted 01-13-2004 09:04:48 AM
quote:
Verily, Taylen doth proclaim:
Just in case he ever does come back. Wait, they always come back, why am I saying if?

I have seen mildly dyslexic people type and spell a hell of alot better than that. I'm fairly majorly dyslexic and I can type and spell alot better than that without the benifit of a spell checker. Though I do have a tendancy to transppose the occasional letter when typing at a faster speed, all it takes is a couple seconds to look at the words as I type and see if I have transposed letters.


Same here.. In fact, I get 25% extra time in exams because of my dyslexia..

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 01-13-2004 09:14:10 AM
Vampirism seriously interferes with your ability to write properly.

Pity him.

*Edit:Gawd, I'm becoming a vampire. HELP! Er, I mean "HLAP!"

[ 01-13-2004: Message edited by: Tarquinn ]

~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 01-13-2004 10:55:21 AM
As long as he's not hurting anyone (except for, maybe, himself) I say live and let live.

If he really is drinking blood, at least he's getting it from a butcher and not another person, or cutting himself and taking it there. Lots of "vampires" have self-mutiliation obsessions.

Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 01-13-2004 10:27:01 PM
Remember kids! It's down the road, not across the street.
[J]
Pancake
posted 01-14-2004 05:47:17 PM
I'm making this post not to make you believe in "vampirism" nor to claim that you are wrong, vampirism could be a psychological delusion. This post is also to help get the point across that angelus was trying to make. In this article i will not use the word "vampire" i'll explain why our community uses that later on, now i will only refer to my condition as "sanguinarian condition/disorder" or "sang".

It is true that most of us begin having cravings for blood usually around puberty, but it is known to happen earlier and also much later (like 20's, 30's). When i began my cravings, it was simply for "something" they were fairly weak compared to the ones i have now. I had never thought of blood in a great way, i think to me at that time it was just the stuff that was in your body. These cravings for "something" gradually grew stronger and i physically began to get weaker, i went to see a doctor of course and was given a clean bill of health. And yet the cravings and fatigue progressed, soon i began having insomnia because of the cravings, and began having migrains. Again i went to the doctor, nothing. I started sucking on my wounds when i had a cut, i never noticed it at the time but my friends did.. it will like i was eating the cut i was liking the taste soo much. Then i gradually started to want that blood feeling to come back and that taste, the cravings suddenly had a name to them, blood cravings. I didn't understand what that meant really at the time, but i began cutting myself to get blood with razors, i would never waste any drop. What i didn't know at that time was that feeding from myself only made me more hungry and weaker. Six months went passed after i began craving blood, i didn't know what that meant and the only thing i had to compare with was that fictional vampires drank blood. See thats the reason we use the name vampire, i typed the words "real vampire" into a search engine and i found out that there were others like me. For this to be psychosimatic or a delusion i would first have had to know about sanguinarians, which i didn't... even if this was a delusion of the media vampires, which i really didn't have an interest in. Then i would be dressing in black, drinking virgins blood, stalking prey and all that crazy shit. We have many sites and many boards, some of which are credible and some of which are obviously people under a delusion. We can't do anything about that, its the internet and we are usually considered "occult" by people, although i personally think theres some scientific or medical drastically improves, they become more energised and healthy then theyve ever been, this wonderfull felling lasts for atleast 2 weeks. Is that bit psychosamatic? even if it is, i don't think any of us care.. Its a relief from the cravings and the fatigue and the insomnia and sensitivity. These factors tend to make us believe that we are defficiant of something within blood, that can be extracted through digestion. That all we know, why? because the medical community looks at us in the same narrow minded way that you do.
I'm not going to comeback here, nor do i want too... I just wanted you to know what your actually talking about before you begin to try to insult us. I would give you links to sites that have a clearer explaination, but you would probably flame them so no.

King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 01-14-2004 05:50:32 PM
Wow, I've never seen anyone put so much effort into deluding themselves.
[J]
Pancake
posted 01-14-2004 05:52:12 PM
Oh.. and you think were crazy ----> crazy people
Alaan
posted 01-14-2004 05:57:11 PM
I really couldn't give a shit what you guys believe either way as long as no one not involved with this vampirism business gets hurt. But for the love all that is good and holy(and/or bad and unholy by preference) you people need to learn to type properly and use proper grammar. If I was a vampire I'd be rather embarrassed by you people.
Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 01-14-2004 06:04:11 PM
quote:
[J] painfully thought these words up:
I'm making this post not to make you believe in "vampirism" nor to claim that you are wrong, vampirism could be a psychological delusion. This post is also to help get the point across that angelus was trying to make. In this article i will not use the word "vampire" i'll explain why our community uses that later on, now i will only refer to my condition as "sanguinarian condition/disorder" or "sang".

[ 01-14-2004: Message edited by: Trent ]

Goma
Pancake
posted 01-14-2004 06:05:30 PM
So... How exactly do you get your blood fix? Obviously not from yourself, as you already stated, but if you gradually get weaker and weaker due to your unsatisfied cravings.. Shouldn't you be dead or like.. In an incapacitated state? I honestly can't think of where you would get your blood fix unless you kill cats or like go to the local field and suck a cow for a while.

Totally legit question, don't take this as an assholeish way to pry at you and poke fun at you, I quite literally want to know how you satisfy the cravings you have.

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 01-14-2004 06:08:12 PM
You do know that a bottle of Coca-Cola and a good daily multi-vitamin with minerals works just as well, right?

I mean, what do you think you're getting from blood that wouldn't be in there?

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 01-14-2004 06:10:50 PM
quote:
Gomateux enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
go to the local field and suck a cow for a while.


Goma
Pancake
posted 01-14-2004 06:13:10 PM
quote:
Trent had this to say about Knight Rider:

Their blood, I mean =(

Or milk. Vampires need milk too, I guess.

[J]
Pancake
posted 01-14-2004 07:02:51 PM
Just to answer questions.. We get our blood from willing donors, usually friends and sometimes family members. There are some foods that tend to help cravings a little, usually those with natural sugar such has fruits and such. But they don't work as well as blood, oh and coke doesn't have that many good vitamins it just has alot of sugar and caffein to keep your blood-sugar levels up so you don't feel crappy.. thats why some people can live off the stuff for ages.
Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 01-14-2004 07:09:39 PM
If any of my family came to me asking for donations, I'd gladly donate a fist to their face 8\

That's just stupid.



Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 01-14-2004 07:21:06 PM

[ 01-14-2004: Message edited by: Snoota ]

Liam
Swims in Erotic Circles
posted 01-14-2004 07:26:53 PM
quote:
[J] had this to say about Knight Rider:
Just to answer questions.. We get our blood from willing donors, usually friends and sometimes family members. There are some foods that tend to help cravings a little, usually those with natural sugar such has fruits and such. But they don't work as well as blood, oh and coke doesn't have that many good vitamins it just has alot of sugar and caffein to keep your blood-sugar levels up so you don't feel crappy.. thats why some people can live off the stuff for ages.

"I can fend off my blood addiction with APPLES"

Arttemis
Not Squire... but a guitar!
posted 01-14-2004 07:30:36 PM
I'm curious. If your cravings went away when you licked YOUR OWN CUT, what exactly were you getting from the blood that you were deficient in?

Sounds like you're pretty much supporting the fact that "Sanguinarian disorder" is a psychological delusion.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-14-2004 07:31:48 PM
quote:
Verily, Snoota doth proclaim:


Snoota wins!

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

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Gunslinger Moogle
No longer a gimmick
posted 01-14-2004 08:50:54 PM
quote:
Arttemis had this to say about Captain Planet:
Sounds like you're pretty much supporting the fact that "Sanguinarian disorder" is a psychological delusion.

This gives me an idea.

Find a nice little sample of these guys (say 100-250). Deprive them of blood for a week or a month or however long, then bleed them a little. Split them into three groups, and feed one group their own, theoretically depleted blood, another group some water that has been made to taste and smell like blood and given red food coloring, and the third group regular human blood (collected from willing donors...or something).

And of course it's a doubleblind procedure.
I am keeping an open mind with these vampires, and normally I'd be content to just sit in a room with one for a while and just try to feel their aura or some new age stuff like this, but my AP Psych course is slowly converting me to the gospel of scientific thinking.




moogle is the 3241727861th binary digit of pi

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Mog
not really a mmembe rof tis boered
posted 01-14-2004 10:10:03 PM
quote:
From the book of Snoota, chapter 3, verse 16:


Holy white out?


Regret calamities if you can thereby help the sufferer; if not, attend to your own work and allready the evil begins to be repaired
- Self Rreliance
Blindy
Roll for initiative, Monkey Boy!
posted 01-14-2004 10:41:12 PM
quote:




SEE ME AFTER CLASS, YOUNG MAN VAMPYRE

On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 01-14-2004 10:43:40 PM
I wonder what he'll think when he finds out this board stopped being about a video game about two years ago.
Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 01-14-2004 10:49:14 PM
quote:
[J] had this to say about the Spice Girls:
oh and coke doesn't have that many good vitamins it just has alot of sugar and caffein to keep your blood-sugar levels up so you don't feel crappy..

And that's where the multi-vitamin with minerals comes in.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Gunslinger Moogle
No longer a gimmick
posted 01-14-2004 11:06:39 PM
quote:
Neo-Blindy stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
SEE ME AFTER CLASS, YOUNG MAN VAMPYRE

Blindy wins.




moogle is the 3241727861th binary digit of pi

Disclaimer: I'm just kidding, I love all living things.
The fastest draw in the Crest.
"The Internet is MY critical thinking course." -Maradon
"Gambling for the husband, an abortion for the wife and fireworks for the kids they chose to keep? Fuck you, Disneyland. The Pine Ridge Indian Reservation is the happiest place on Earth." -JooJooFlop

Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 01-14-2004 11:12:01 PM
quote:
So quoth Gunslinger Moogle:
Blindy wins.

Mine was better.

Cherveny
Papaya
posted 01-14-2004 11:19:33 PM
quote:
Gunslinger Moogle had this to say about (_|_):
This gives me an idea.

Find a nice little sample of these guys (say 100-250). Deprive them of blood for a week or a month or however long, then bleed them a little. Split them into three groups, and feed one group their own, theoretically depleted blood, another group some water that has been made to taste and smell like blood and given red food coloring, and the third group regular human blood (collected from willing donors...or something).

And of course it's a doubleblind procedure.
I am keeping an open mind with these vampires, and normally I'd be content to just sit in a room with one for a while and just try to feel their aura or some new age stuff like this, but my AP Psych course is slowly converting me to the gospel of scientific thinking.


Actually, I like this idea. It would help clear up if there is any physical disorders going on, or if the whole thing is a psychological/pschosomatic disorder. Stranger things have been found before.

Of course, finding a sample size large enough to not skew the results with the placebo effect, might be difficult due to the low number of "vampires", plus the smaller subset who would be willing to go through with the study.

Gunslinger Moogle
No longer a gimmick
posted 01-14-2004 11:30:33 PM
quote:
Cherveny's fortune cookie read:
Of course, finding a sample size large enough to not skew the results with the placebo effect, might be difficult due to the low number of "vampires", plus the smaller subset who would be willing to go through with the study.

Yeah, about the willing part...don't tell the APA.




moogle is the 3241727861th binary digit of pi

Disclaimer: I'm just kidding, I love all living things.
The fastest draw in the Crest.
"The Internet is MY critical thinking course." -Maradon
"Gambling for the husband, an abortion for the wife and fireworks for the kids they chose to keep? Fuck you, Disneyland. The Pine Ridge Indian Reservation is the happiest place on Earth." -JooJooFlop

[J]
Pancake
posted 01-14-2004 11:40:24 PM
Actually many of us would jump at an idea, to see if this is a psychological disorder or not. So if this sounds like were whining for attension but its true that we don't want to suffer from this condition.
King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 01-14-2004 11:45:27 PM
quote:
[J] painfully thought these words up:
Actually many of us would jump at an idea, to see if this is a psychological disorder or not. So if this sounds like were whining for attension but its true that we don't want to suffer from this condition.

Christ, does drinking the blood of your family members have the same effect as inbreeding? Why can't any of you type above the level of a retarded monkey?

Cherveny
Papaya
posted 01-14-2004 11:49:30 PM
quote:
[J] had this to say about Knight Rider:
Actually many of us would jump at an idea, to see if this is a psychological disorder or not. So if this sounds like were whining for attension but its true that we don't want to suffer from this condition.

Well then, why not approach some college research types and see what they say? Yes, you may be laughed at by many who are unwilling to believe, but, if you can get at least one to listen to you long enough to demonstrate the size of your community, and perhaps even a list of willing volunteers, you might get such a study, especially a grad student desperate for a thesis idea.

And even if you don't get their support, at least they will of heard of the condition the next time someone else complains of the same kind of symptoms...

Gunslinger Moogle
No longer a gimmick
posted 01-14-2004 11:52:01 PM
quote:
[J] wrote this stupid crap:
Actually many of us would jump at an idea, to see if this is a psychological disorder or not. So if this sounds like were whining for attension but its true that we don't want to suffer from this condition.

really? Interesting. Do you know of some way that we can get at least 100 vampires in the same spot for however long it takes them to start feeling the effects of blood 'starvation'? With a check for $50 or whatever attached...but yeah.

Although, I'm pretty sure that it would have to be psychosomatic since there isn't any physiological difference between 'vampires' and humans by all accounts. Though it doesn't seem like these vampires have been taking the kinds of steps they should be to seek treatment. I wonder what would happen if a vampire was given an fMRI while drinking blood or something...




moogle is the 3241727861th binary digit of pi

Disclaimer: I'm just kidding, I love all living things.
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"The Internet is MY critical thinking course." -Maradon
"Gambling for the husband, an abortion for the wife and fireworks for the kids they chose to keep? Fuck you, Disneyland. The Pine Ridge Indian Reservation is the happiest place on Earth." -JooJooFlop

[J]
Pancake
posted 01-14-2004 11:53:46 PM
Thats very possible, only theres the problem that it would usually be one persons word.. We are way to spread out, over states and countries (im in australia) its just difficult to find enough for a proper thesis. Noone is going to accept studies done with half the information from the internet.
[J]
Pancake
posted 01-15-2004 12:02:05 AM
Well thats the thing we just don't know the results an MRI would have, everyone views us in the same way either occultists or crazy people. I mean there is some effect in our body that improved our health after the ingestion of somebody elses blood, with its psychosimatic or not we don't know.
Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 01-15-2004 12:04:21 AM
quote:
[J] wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Well thats the thing we just don't know the results an MRI would have, everyone views us in the same way either occultists or crazy people. I mean there is some effect in our body that improved our health after the ingestion of somebody elses blood, with its psychosimatic or not we don't know.

Considering the fact that there aren't magical substances in blood that you don't find anywhere else, the chances of it being a genuine medical condition are about equal to zilch.

[J]
Pancake
posted 01-15-2004 12:08:31 AM
Nobody knows that for sure, theres been theories from amino acids to mitochondria about what we are defficiant of, some of which are fairly interesting.
King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 01-15-2004 12:09:48 AM
quote:
[J] got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Nobody knows that for sure, theres been theories from amino acids to mitochondria about what we are defficiant of, some of which are fairly interesting.

And all are just pitiful excuses to justify a particularly lame way you've attempted to carve out an identity for yourself.

Giving your theories this much credit is an insult.

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