It is freaking facepaint you buy and put on
I mean, yes it can look nice when not done up in a goth (read : clown) fashion, but it sure isn't required to live your day to day life
It isn't like they were asking her to dye her natural hair colour or something
Ahh well, this thread is still highly amusing 
I still remember when my job made me wear a hairnet when I had my head bald
Man, we all laughed at that for weeks
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From the book of Bloodsage, chapter 3, verse 16:
Fitting in, or dressing or acting appropriately to a given situation has nothing to do with betraying one's deepest persona.
But I have to express my individuality the same exact way as every other Goth on the planet!
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D had this to say about Punky Brewster:
But I have to express my individuality the same exact way as every other Goth on the planet!
You non-conformists are all alike
This thread makes my head hurt...
So many different levels of pure.. *cringes* I don't wanna say it.. =(
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The leckie wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
I wear that make up, Laim boy. ¬_¬That's irrelvant though. Basically if the US laws are the same as ours then what Gydyon said sums it all up. No ifs, No buts, as long as they're not singleing one person out then she has to conform.
Sorry, I just dont personally like it 
not that that matters.
Just cause she wears grey eye shadow shes a fucking goth?
And no shes not gonna remove that one layer of makeup for them. Her job with them is already terminated, no chance to please them which she doesnt want to in the first place.
She doesnt have to conform if she doesnt want to, she is one of their hardest worker, always available for them never books off time and calls in sick maybe once a year. Your telling me your not gonna hire someone like this simply cause she has dark eyes?
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BlueMage had this to say about Pirotess:
Will you all get it through your heads shes not a GOTH, in no way does she dress goth or look goth, she wears bright clothing, no spikes no leather nothing like that, all she wears is baggy tshirts and bluejeans like everyone else.Just cause she wears grey eye shadow shes a fucking goth?
And no shes not gonna remove that one layer of makeup for them. Her job with them is already terminated, no chance to please them which she doesnt want to in the first place.
She doesnt have to conform if she doesnt want to, she is one of their hardest worker, always available for them never books off time and calls in sick maybe once a year. Your telling me your not gonna hire someone like this simply cause she has dark eyes?
Wether she's a goth or not is irrelevant.
get it through your damn skull, Your friend literally has to conform to how her employers want her to, OR SHE WILL NEVER HAVE A JOB
Unless there's a freak show in your area or something.
If they *DON'T* want her wearing the make up while on the clock, then she best not be wearing it.
Hi, this is something we like to call the "real world".
Businesses have the right to set a dress code.
And not all employeers are as narrow minded as you seem to think they are. [ 01-15-2003: Message edited by: BlueMage ]
And looks go along with that.
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BlueMage had this to say about dark elf butts:
She doesnt have to conform if she doesnt want to
We've only been telling you for three pages now that, well, she does in fact have to fucking comform. Did it get through this time or will we have to try harder?
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BlueMage wrote this stupid crap:
She doesnt have to conform if she doesnt want to
OMG.. to funny.
thread and cut the Crap.Blue Mage already beat me to telling you that her friend Isn't Goth, but w/e.
Honestly, some of the comments made could have been better off thought, and not written. The moment you judge someone on their looks alone you become a vain little prick. This girl was probably the best Casheer (if not worker in General) at that store.
Some of you wear silly hats, some of us get tattooed up, some have guns, some shave their heads, some don't.
This girl had no way worn her makeup like Mimi from the Drew Carey Show. a little black eyeliner and dark grey eyeshadow is just as "GOTH" as some girl doing the same thing with baby blue eyeshadow.
Plus, being "Goth" isn't defined by wearing makeup. It's a state of being....and I'm no way Goth.
I add nothing further to this thread in hopes that it dies.
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Red Mage's fortune cookie read:
How about we keep this as athread and cut the Crap.
To do that, you and your friends would have to stop posting.
Then we'd lose our source of hilariously ridiculous rebuttals.
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Red Mage had this to say about John Romero:
Blue Mage already beat me to telling you that her friend Isn't Goth, but w/e.
That's still irrelevant to the argumentive point.
Is it really that difficult to say, "I'd like to keep my job and get a raise, so I'll just get rid of some grey powder I bought at a store"?
I'm not saying she was completely in the right. She could easily have removed the makeup. But I can also understand her wanting to know why. If my company that I've been with for two years now (and a year and a half before I left) said I suddenly couldn't wear the brown shoe style I've worn since I came, I would want to know why to, and would inquire politely about the change.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Red Mage Model 2000 was programmed to say:
How about we keep this as aBlue Mage already beat me to telling you that her friend Isn't Goth, but w/e.
Honestly, some of the comments made could have been better off thought, and not written. The moment you judge someone on their looks alone you become a vain little prick. This girl was probably the best Casheer (if not worker in General) at that store.
Some of you wear silly hats, some of us get tattooed up, some have guns, some shave their heads, some don't.
This girl had no way worn her makeup like Mimi from the Drew Carey Show. a little black eyeliner and dark grey eyeshadow is just as "GOTH" as some girl doing the same thing with baby blue eyeshadow.
Plus, being "Goth" isn't defined by wearing makeup. It's a state of being....and I'm no way Goth.
I add nothing further to this thread in hopes that it dies.
What the fuck are you babbling about? The employer has every right in the world to fire her ass if she doesn't comform, goth or not.
What does this have to do with anything?
But, truly, if she or her friend wants a good job at any point, they are going to have to confrom to that jobs dress code, including make-up the employeer, not her or her friend, consider to heavy, to dark, to much, etc etc etc..
A company usually has an image they want to project, if employees do not fit that image, the are usually given a chance to change or be let go.
It is a suck ass reality, but it is one nonetheless.
Have a nice day.
edit: Clarified [ 01-15-2003: Message edited by: Trent ]
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Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about the Spice Girls:
You guys are being way too harsh on this girl.
I'm being harsh on Red and Blue Mage, not whoever the third chick is.
Well, this all makes sense now
, but thats a shitty way to get around something minor that could've been avoided if she just followed the changing rules of her job, instead of throwing a fit and quitting over it.Wearring makeup isn't like its a damn lifestyle. You can live without the fishscale-stick rubbed on your lips. [ 01-15-2003: Message edited by: Skaw ]
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Trent wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
A company usually has an image they want to project, if employees do not fit that image, the are usually given a chance to change or be let go.
I realize this, and what puzzles me is that if they didn't want to project a "bad" image, then why bother hiring her in the first place?
That's the reason why I'm raising Hell. Sure they can change their dress code policies, but If I was a Manager/Owner of a store and I wanted to change the dress code, I would have a staff meeting, or some other means of communicating to my employees these changes, and when they will take effect.
From what I heard...BM's friend heard that the manager didn't like her look from a "4th degree" (Ya know, manager told someone, who told someone else, who told someone else, who told her).
She wasn't given a notice, just a call with a mandate. To me this sounds just ridiculous, and if she was in a union, he wouldn't have gotten away with it.
And my work hated that hat
What would I do? I wouldn't wear the hat to work. But after work, damn I like that hat, I would wear it!
Do we see what word here could be easily switched with 'Make-up'? It's a fun game!
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Red Mage probably says this to all the girls:
She wasn't given a notice, just a call with a mandate. To me this sounds just ridiculous, and if she was in a union, he wouldn't have gotten away with it.
Thats life.
And a manager that asks his employees opinions on changes of company policy would probably be fired for not doing what their boss(es) told them.
She should've been fucking happy she had a job in the first place. Theres plenty of people unemployeed(Me, Aani, Dens) who'd really love a job right now. But for me and Aani, the markets dry like a desert at noon in the summer. [ 01-15-2003: Message edited by: Skaw ]
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Red Mage's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
To me this sounds just ridiculous, and if she was in a union, he wouldn't have gotten away with it.
I can't think of a way to sufficiently respond to this, so I'm gonna laugh.
Bahahahahahahaha! 
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Vorago thought about the meaning of life:
That would be like if I had a hat I likedAnd my work hated that hat
What would I do? I wouldn't wear the hat to work. But after work, damn I like that hat, I would wear it!
Do we see what word here could be easily switched with 'Make-up'? It's a fun game!
Except that her makeup means more to her then your stupid hat does to you, thats my point ok.
It means nothing to you people, heck even I dont wear my makeup that often, but Its very much a part of who she is and shes not going to take it off for them, but whatever she mite tone it down I dunno its our problem now and will figure this out.
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nem-x had this to say about Cuba:
A union for people who wear dark makeup.
And don't like to think for themselves.
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The logic train ran off the tracks when BlueMage said:
Except that her makeup means more to her then your stupid hat does to you, thats my point ok.It means nothing to you people, heck even I dont wear my makeup that often, but Its very much a part of who she is and shes not going to take it off for them, but whatever she mite tone it down I dunno its our problem now and will figure this out.
Lewd conduct with lipstick?
Let's all go home; everyone came with their beliefs set in stone and expected to hear what they wanted. And if they didn't, well, omfg we'll solve this ourselves and you're a bunch of heartless idiot jerks who could never understand this situation it's life or death and you all are a bunch of idiots who can't tell me what I want to hear. [ 01-15-2003: Message edited by: Lenny ]
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BlueMage spewed forth this undeniable truth:
Except that her makeup means more to her then your stupid hat does to you, thats my point ok.It means nothing to you people, heck even I dont wear my makeup that often, but Its very much a part of who she is and shes not going to take it off for them, but whatever she mite tone it down I dunno its our problem now and will figure this out.
Makeup is not a part of a persons lifestyle and choice, and really isn't important to the, let alone has any part of, workplace. Unless they work at the circus or birthday parties.
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D wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
And don't like to think for themselves.
Id join, i wear no makeup, but thinking is way too much work
I was trying to put he point across is, that it is a product
You buy it and put it on yourself
It is not the same as, say, being told to stop bringing your asthma inhaler to work because it clashes with the uniform or something
See, THAT would actually matter. It is important, where make-up is dust, coloured dust.
But then, if this make-up is so important that unemployment is preferable to not wearing it for a period of 6'ish hours... well, then the problem doesn't lie with her employers
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ACES! Another post by Skaw:
Makeup is not a part of a persons lifestyle and choice,
maybe not for you
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BlueMage had this to say about Optimus Prime:
maybe not for you
If it's that much a part of her life, then I would say she has a problem.
Or she's trying to cover up some deformity.
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and BlueMage was all like:
maybe not for you
I'm just going to say this:
Caring more about wearing makeup than about earning a living is seriously messed up.
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This one time, at BlueMage camp:
maybe not for you
dude i am SO going to start telling people that putting bits of dead animal on my face is part of who i am. that would be really cool.
