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We were all impressed when Synjari wrote:
Gydyon is love =D
Your husband smooched me. 
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Everyone wondered WTF when Judge Gydyon wrote:
Your husband smooched me.
So what do you want? A counter-smooch from Synny to act as an antidote for the KaL germs?
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JooJooFlop got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
So what do you want? A counter-smooch from Synny to act as an antidote for the KaL germs?
You stay out of this magnet boy.
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There's no antidote for magnet germs. None.
I have the magnet germies! YAYYYYYY!#@!#
^_^
I guess I'm like... Katrinity now, just ahir vs. tails. ^_^ [ 01-14-2003: Message edited by: Gikkwiny ]
I'm impressed. 
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Nobody really understood why Tarquinn wrote:
From judicial advice to an orgy in less than 5 posts.I'm impressed.
I get that a lot. Makes court more fun, though!
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Judge Gydyon had this to say about Pirotess:
I get that a lot. Makes court more fun, though!
Remind me to hire you if I ever need a Lawyer
This is roughly what it looks like... bout the rite colors...
Funny part is they are losing their best cashier... well figure this out 
Note: This is Bluemage [ 01-14-2003: Message edited by: Red Mage ]
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Suddar had this to say about pies:
Maybe at Spencer's Gifts or Hot Topic, but nobody wants to deal with some freaky germy makeup girl while shopping at the Gap or something.
So you know what Canadian Tire is?
Hardly the Gap.
It's kinda like Home Depot...just Canadian, and they cover everything from Automotive, to plumbing, to toys.
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Red Mage had this to say about Knight Rider:
So you know what Canadian Tire is?Hardly the Gap.
It's kinda like Home Depot...just Canadian, and they cover everything from Automotive, to plumbing, to toys.
Irrelevant, that's ugly ass make up and I don't blame them at all for firing her for wearing that sort of thing.
Besides, she doesn't need to be fired. She could just remove the layers of make up AND keep her job! It's amazing how it works.
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Drysart had this to say about dark elf butts:
Yes, they can, just as surely as they could fire her if she made the decision that she'd only work without pants on.There are very few things you're protected from being fired over.
In some states it is even legal to fire people on the grounds of being homosexual.
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Check out the big brain on Liam!
Irrelevant, that's ugly ass make up and I don't blame them at all for firing her for wearing that sort of thing.Besides, she doesn't need to be fired. She could just remove the layers of make up AND keep her job! It's amazing how it works.
Ok first off, she shouldnt have to change something they was perfectly ok with for two years (double checked the length today) and second its to much a part of who she is, she doesnt want to remove it. Shell just get a better job [ 01-14-2003: Message edited by: BlueMage ]
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BlueMage wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Ok first off, she shouldnt have to change something they was perfectly ok with for two years (double checked the length today) and second its to much a part of who she is, she doesnt want to remove it. Shell just get a better job
...hee hee hee.
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BlueMage wrote this then went back to looking for goth porn:
Ok first off, she shouldnt have to change something they was perfectly ok with for two years (double checked the length today) and second its to much a part of who she is, she doesnt want to remove it. Shell just get a better job
If the managers tell her to change how she looks, then guess what (No matter what you think about this, or how injust is) SHE HAS TO CONFORM TO IT, or she loses the job. SIMPLE AS THAT.
Besides, most jobs have similar dress codes.
P.S., The Customers always right. So if they complain, she has to change. that's how it works.
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BlueMage had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Shell just get a better job
Which would you rather choose: Being un-certain when it comes to employment, or taking a hit and removing some colored dust from your eyelids to keep making money?
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BlueMage's account was hax0red to write:
and second its to much a part of who she is, she doesnt want to remove it. Shell just get a better job
Uh.. no she won't, not until she gets rid of the wanna-be goth make-up.
what? someone had to say it!
Chances are her options are the aforementioned two: Change what needs to be changed, or get a different job. In 99.9% of situations, that's the case. If she changes the things requested and they continue to single her out for unusual treatment, then there's a problem.
When I quit my job at the convenience store, for instance, it was because I realized that my intro 90 days were up, and the store manager had more reason to fire me than keep me. I had done all the shit jobs around the store (heavy lifting the stuff to stock, working graveyard shift all weekend, etc), and had done them well. Even the other folks who worked there wondered why Ron (the manager) was singling me out. I was always in proper attire, always shaved and clean, always did my job fast and efficiently, never broke any merchandise (glass bottles, etc), never broke any rules (selling cigs to minors, etc), people knew me by name when they came in and I was always friendly. And yet he started making my life hell working there.
See he couldn't fire me (there was no justification for it), but he could give me grief to get me to quit (and it worked; left the convenience store and got a better-paying job). But my 90 days were up...and if I had stayed that's right around the time they would've had to start paying insurance, give me a raise, etc. And he was known amongst the Pantry managers for running a tight ship, etc.
Ironically when the district manager changed, Ron got fired. Too much turnover in employees at his store.
In *ANY* case I don't think that's what's happening to your friend here, but she'd know better. It couldn't hurt to tone things down a bit for the sake of keeping her job. At the next job they'll ask why she was let go from that one, and if she says something that sounds like "I wouldn't adhere to the dress code" it could be bad. Couldn't hurt to ditch the makeup, in any case.
And if she quits the job and finds one that doesn't care about the makeup, great. No harm, no foul. If she doesn't, oh well. Styles can change.
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Liam thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
If the managers tell her to change how she looks, then guess what (No matter what you think about this, or how injust is) SHE HAS TO CONFORM TO IT, or she loses the job. SIMPLE AS THAT.Besides, most jobs have similar dress codes.
P.S., The Customers always right. So if they complain, she has to change. that's how it works.
Ummm no. The customer is NOT always right. But the manager is. And if the manager agrees with the customer, or the customer makes a reasonable request.... then the manager decides to make the change. A customer could tell her to take off her makeup all day because it offends them and she does not have to do it until the manager requests it.
I realize Blue Mage that it is the principal of the thing. They have been letting her wear makeup like that for two years. But on the other hand, the manager has also had to put up with it for two years. Maybe he/she's tired of putting up with it.
You never stated WHY they suddenly changed their mind. You made assumptions of a new manager comming in. But it maybe or might not be the reason. You friend needs to talk to them about why the change after two years? Or has it been mentioned before, just never came down to comply or go else where?
We do not know the entire story. And no matter how well you know your friend, you do not either because you only hear one side of it. Hope she finds a job that allows her to dress and look how she wants. Good luck. Because it is not about the employer complying with the needs/wants of the employees. It is the other way around.
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This one time, at Liam camp:P.S., The Customers always right. So if they complain, she has to change. that's how it works.
They're only right when they're standing right there. That what my Manager has taught me
My current employer used to have casual Fridays for several years. One day someone decided wearing ripped-up jeans and a grungy t-shirt would be a good idea. The Owner saw this, and guess who no longer has a casual Friday.
We also used to ba allowed 'tasteful' female images as backgrounds on our workstations. I had the wood elf screenshot from EQ2. One individual had a thing for finding lesbians soaping each other up or other such half-naked and wet women. After hiring 3 more women in the office, the policy suddenly changed to 'no people you're not related to.' This included my little CG character.
And yet.. the world keeps spinning.
Trust me, I dont honestly believe that line, but that's how it works.
What a NOVEL CONCEPT!
no, im not sugesting stealing, that would be wrogna nd all, im saying being as you get paid to do a certain amount of work, by doing less while still sustaining the same pay is in essense, a stealth raise
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Liam was listening to Cher while typing:
Irrelevant, that's ugly ass make up and I don't blame them at all for firing her for wearing that sort of thing.
I wear that make up, Laim boy. ¬_¬
That's irrelvant though. Basically if the US laws are the same as ours then what Gydyon said sums it all up. No ifs, No buts, as long as they're not singleing one person out then she has to conform.
There's a reason most companies have a dress code. There's a reason most companies will fire your ass if you don't adhere to the dress code.
You can just say she'll find a better job, but with the attitude that "oh, I do what I want and my employer better like it or I'll boogie" she won't exactly get very far.
Personally, if I were a manager and your friend would come in with makeup like that, she'd be on her way home 2 minutes after she set foot in my office.
But I guess the 234512 people here trying to explain that to you are all wrong, you're right, 435523434211 layers of makeup rule, and you'll just show us wrong.
Think again.
ben(at)netmastering(dot)nl
Your friend should fight for her Constitutional and God-given right to wear the eyeshadow that is a part of who she is! Anyone who defines themselves based on their makeup must be allowed to thrive!
omg Parce maybe you were right...
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MadCat the 2nd had this to say about dark elf butts:
BM, advise your friend that it's in her best interest to lose that "part of her" (the makeup) and live with not wearing any.There's a reason most companies have a dress code. There's a reason most companies will fire your ass if you don't adhere to the dress code.
You can just say she'll find a better job, but with the attitude that "oh, I do what I want and my employer better like it or I'll boogie" she won't exactly get very far.
Personally, if I were a manager and your friend would come in with makeup like that, she'd be on her way home 2 minutes after she set foot in my office.
But I guess the 234512 people here trying to explain that to you are all wrong, you're right, 435523434211 layers of makeup rule, and you'll just show us wrong.
Think again.
MadCat is exactly right, regarding philosophy of life, if not the letter of the law.
Get over the notion that the rest of the world has to cater to your every individualistic whim now, or you'll go nowhere in life.
Fitting in, or dressing or acting appropriately to a given situation has nothing to do with betraying one's deepest persona.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
