Heres the deal.. My best friend is a cashier for Canadian Tire, now she wears a bit of heavy make up.

Now by heavy makeup I mean she wears blackeye liner (not thick), grey eye shadow, and pale pink lipstick...

Now this evening she was told by her work that unless she stoped wearing her makeup she was fired.

But the thing is is that shes worked there for over a year and half now wearing this makeup the whole time and they never once said anything.

But they are changing management but the new person whos coming in knows my firend looks like this has seen her all summer long looking like this and they never once said anything about it...

Is theisegal.. or even allowed? Honestly can they get away with this?

Noe: No they are not unionized.

[ 01-13-2003: Message edited by: BlueMage ]

Thier dress code should have a "And anything we do not see fit" clause in it.

... As long as they are not saying that "Well, on your days off, you can't wear makeup", yes, they can say she cannot wear that makeup, or be fired.

Makeup is not a personal right - just like I can't walk into work with my tongue, eyebrow, and nose pierced, with green hair.

There are very few things you're protected from being fired over.

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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and BlueMage was all like:
Then why didnt they tell her this when she started A YEAR AGO?!

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Manager's perogative.

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Verily, BlueMage doth proclaim:
Then why didnt they tell her this when she started A YEAR AGO?!

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Things can change. New management, customers complaining, any number of things, but it's all perfectly legal.

I know my example doesn't really apply here, but maybe your friend should look for similar rule disparities around the store such as other employees being allowed to wear makeup of any kind.

Or, at least, that's the way it should be.

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Fazum'Zen Fastfist had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Mm, little caesar's

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Exactly.

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Fazum'Zen Fastfist attempted to be funny by writing:
Mm, little caesar's

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I haven't heard from them in awhile.

Too bad...they were good.

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Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about Captain Planet:
Why even have a dress code then, Mara?

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To let people know the currect expected standard

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Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about Robocop:
Why even have a dress code then, Mara?

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A private business reserves the right to uphold it's own business policies

Working for someone isn't an implied right, it's an earned privelage.

... Eyeliner, eyeshadow, and lipstick are not heavy makeup.

-Not- to be mean, but is it just eyeliner, eyeshadow, and lipstick like you'd normally see?

i.e

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Gikkwiny's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
-Not- to be mean, but is it just eyeliner, eyeshadow, and lipstick like you'd normally see?

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I'm thinking more along the lines of Mimi from the Drew Carey show.

As an example, if a male wants to grow facial hair, it must be well groomed.

Both sexes need to keep fingernails trimmed to a reasonable length, and wear either no or subdued polish.

Females must wear no or subdued makeup, that means to make it look NATURAL... Light makeup, not BLACK AND GREY.

hate to tell you this, but people generally don't like dealing with people that look goth, and if you work retail, that affects sales, period.

And yes, she can be fired over this.

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This insanity brought to you by The Burger:
well, you see, here at work, we have a thing called an employee uniform manual, it lets you know how to dress, how to groom, etc...

As an example, if a male wants to grow facial hair, it must be well groomed.

Both sexes need to keep fingernails trimmed to a reasonable length, and wear either no or subdued polish.

Females must wear no or subdued makeup, that means to make it look NATURAL... Light makeup, not BLACK AND GREY.

hate to tell you this, but people generally don't like dealing with people that look goth, and if you work retail, that affects sales, period.

And yes, she can be fired over this.

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Whats it say int hat manually thigny bout finely groomed female facial hare?

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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Mog was all like:
Whats it say int hat manually thigny bout finely groomed female facial hare?

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Shudders...

I was told when I started working, that I can't smoke, I can't dye my hair un-natural colors, and I can't have visible piercings or tattoos.

I agreed to this, and it can be changed whenever they want.

It makes sense.

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Lyinar Ka`Bael thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Nothing says grey can't be subdued. I wear dark brown and blue grey sometimes because it goes good with blue eyes. It's all in application.

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Yeah, but look at who we're talking about here.

Their group isn't exactly known for going light and subtle on the makeup application.

• Change her makeup.
  
• Quit.
  

There really shouldn't even be an issue here. This is how the real world works. Either you adhere to your employer's standards, or you find a different employer.

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BlueMage got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
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This word humors me.

When I used to work at Aye.net we had different Dress codes for men and Women. Men had to have short, well kept hair, Earrings could not be worn, but if they were pierced we didn't say anything about it. Men could not wear makeup. Facial hair had to be well kept and trimmed.

Women could have any lenth hair, makeup had to be light as did perfume if they wore any, etc, etc.. But there was also a nice little clause in the policy.. "Management has the sole discretion to enforce and change these policies as needed". In other words, me or any other supervisor could make the decision at any time to enforce the rules or to decide that something was unacceptable.

The "Goth" look was not alowed in even the slightest. I personally had no problem with it but customers may. And anyone who came to an interview dressed like that or with the Makeup going got shoved to the bottom of the list.

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Woody stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
I worked as a delivery guy for Little Ceasar's for a while, and the management asked me to cut my hair and remove my earring. I let them know that until such point as the females were required to cut their hair and remove their earrings, I would do no such thing. If a rule can not be applied across the board then it can not be applied at all... without the very fun threat of a law suit for descrimination that is.

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*imagines the management enforcing that for all females because of what Woody said, and said women giving Woody a beatdown because he had to ruin it for everyone*

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Don Parcelan stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
I haven't heard from them in awhile.

Too bad...they were good.

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there's one right down the street from me. mmmm, any large 1 topping pizza for five bucks, every day. *drool*

If the management feels that they wish to no longer allow her choice of make-up, then she has two options:

• Change her makeup.
  
• Quit.
  

There really shouldn't even be an issue here. This is how the real world works. Either you adhere to your employer's standards, or you find a different employer.

My work here is done.

I love it when people do my work for me.

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aurywoof had this to say about the Spice Girls:
there's one right down the street from me. mmmm, any large 1 topping pizza for five bucks, every day. *drool*

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Can I move in with you?

*loves the BREADSTICKS*