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Iron Chef Cadga had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Covering his ass 101 i used to teach that class d00dperiod at the end of a sentance weee!
Man i need some more fucking sweet and sour sauce damn chinese food person gave me like NONEdamn it all
You know what to do. Go fling lots and lots of poo at the building until they give you more sweet and sour sauce! GO FORTH MONKAH!
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Check out the big brain on Dr. Vorbis!
You know what to do. Go fling lots and lots of poo at the building until they give you more sweet and sour sauce! GO FORTH MONKAH!
funk dat shit y0 ill jsut tell them that this chicken doenst taste like cat and i want my money back!
when i get chinese i want CAT MEAT damn it
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Bloodsage impressed everyone with:
Do you really think the initial few posts about banning were true flames? Please. Why are you so willing to read his post charitably, but none others?
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That's where you said everyone mindlessly keyed on the word "warez" and jumped to unwarranted conclusions. Dress it up how you will, it's you not only telling the rest of us what we were thinking, but that we were stupid to do so.
I've already stated that I agree that he could have worded his denial better than saying it was a joke. But would you have believed him anyway? Or would he get more of those 'covering your ass' remarks?
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There are two ways to read his statement, obviously. I think the evidence points more to the way most of us are reading it. That conclusion is further bolstered by his half-assed and vague not-quite-denials.
I still think he went over the line with his Cadga comment and should get no pity for that, but I'm not going to sit here and let YOU (and it's mostly you, Bloodsage), treating him like dirt because he poorly conveyed a less than humorous joke.
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If it was truly a joke, no "maybe" qualifier was necessary, and had he simply not known the severity of warez offenses, he should have come forth with a real denial. Those are rather decisive factors in my mind.
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And, please, answer the entire post in the future. Quibbling with individual items does not make your point; it merely drags the conversation down into the weeds.
You, however, only addressed one thing I said and ignored the rest.
Believe what you will, but if you read past the first few initial replies, people were getting fairly serious about their banning comments. Unless, they, too, are joking... but if that's the case, I think I would like each of them to come forward and explain if they were joking or not, just for your sake.
And sorry for taking so long to respond. I was at a movie, trying to get my mind off of things. [ 05-27-2002: Message edited by: Bajah ]
Nowhere did I say you were telling us how to think. The quotation I pulled in response to your challenge is quite clearly an example of you telling us what we were thinking. Ridiculous, because you've no way to know, but does show your willingness to make shit up simply to have an easy point to argue.
In logic, it's called a "straw man," and it's exceptionally bad form.
Nor did I say anywhere he should speak like an educated adult rather than a teenager. I said if he meant to deny it, he should deny it, not make half-assed vague statements.
Additionally, I was not making the point about the first few "ban" posts in favor of my argument, so your "rebuttal" is moot. All I did is show that you were reading inconsistently.
You'll note that the serious flaming didn't begin until Asseroth decided to get huffy. Had he really been joking, he should have taken the replies as jokes. Since he got immediately defensive, and failed to deny the point of contention, he was flamed seriously.
Next, your point regarding Delidgamond and Snoota is meaningless. Of course something like that would be taken as a joke from them--they are well-known for such humorous hijinks. We also let Delidgamond and Snoota get away with shit we wouldn't tolerate from Paul554.
So? Certain people have earned the right to more leeway than others. It's a fact of life in any community. Or are you saying you'd let any random person joke around with Suchii the same way you do? Same concept; same bullshit.
Finally, simply because you quibble with several points in sequence, many erroneously, doesn't mean you've answered the substance of my post. The fact you don't see that simply shows you aren't paying attention the larger issues.
You've agreed there are two ways to read Asseroth's initial post. You've also agreed that he never explicitly denied the substance of why he was flamed. Given that, all you've got in support of your point is your initial different reading.
The rest of us can point to his further behavior, which reinforces our initial impression.
So back off, dude. Feel free to disagree, but lay off telling others what they were thinking, or accusing them of mindlessly lashing out at the mere word "warez." That's not what happened, here.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
hello DOLLY!
I am not as educated as you. I don't have the degrees you do.
But you know, I'm a lot better at understanding people here than you. You just hear what they say. I actually listen.
[ 05-28-2002: Message edited by: Bloodsage ]
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bajah had this to say about pies:
No point in arguing with you. It's an endless display of absolutely nothing.I am not as educated as you. I don't have the degrees you do.
But you know, I'm a lot better at understanding people here than you. You just hear what they say. I actually listen.
Niiice cop-out.
Are you actually trying to tell me you have some sort of magical empathy that works through text?
Or that you really think you know better what everyone was thinking than they did? That you know we were all mindlessly jumping on the single word "warez" while you, studly guy that you are, read the whole post?
If you can't hang, then just say you can't hang.
Stupid shit like, "I can't win the argument, but I'm a better person than you are anyway," is just lame.
Hate to break it to you, bucko, but you don't know me. You don't know what motivates me, and you damn sure haven't the least clue how well I understand people.
But if it makes you feel better to tell yourself what a great person you are as you tuck your tail between your legs and run off, feel free.
There were graceful ways you could've handled that, but I guess they're just not your style. Proving you don't understand people nearly as much as you think, btw.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
All I'm saying is that maybe you should try to see where they're coming from and see what they're trying to say and not just the 'way they worded it.'
And I don't think I'm better than you or anyone else here. If you actually think that, then you don't know me too well, either. Hell, ask anyone here that actually has an inkling of the kind of person I am.
And I'm not running away. I'm just absolutely tired of trying to explain anything to you, because all you do is pick apart the way I word my arguments... just like you always do.
I hate to say it, but you need to learn to care about people.
Edit: typo [ 05-28-2002: Message edited by: Bajah ]
It's not a sin to pick apart your arguments. That's what arguments are about. Duh.
If your argument wasn't full of holes, I wouldn't be able to pick it apart.
And you did rather explicitly say you were better than me, so don't try to back off it and pretend humility just one post later. Geez.
Your problem from the beginning was that the only foundation for your argument was the different reading of numbnuts' first post. Had you confined yourself to that, we could've simply agreed to disagree.
But you felt you had to construct further "argument" based on whatever feeling you seem to be claiming you can get from cold text through a computer monitor. It manifest itself in the rather arrogant and ridiculous claim you knew what everyone else was thinking.
The minute you told us anyone who disagreed with you was only keying on the word "warez" without looking further, you fucked up.
Also, I fail to see where I've belittled you as a substitute for arguing from the facts. And in direct response to your personal intimations, I might add.
Exactly what, for example, do you base the rather fantastic claims that you not only understand people better than I do, but that you somehow care more? And that, incredibly, these claims don't add up to you being in any way superior. 
If you'd learn to argue with what is said, rather than with who you think I am, you'd have a much easier time of it. You'd also have a chance of being right.
As long as you're claiming to know me, though, you're just making shit up, and have no chance of anything other than dismal failure.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
wut someone said there was a party?
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ACES! Another post by Bajah:
Once again, I disagree. However, instead of giving you more ammunition to fuel your rampant spewage of bullshit, I'm just going to walk away and let you have your little victory dance.
Nice.
You go.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Can't hang himself, so he sends his girl in to do battle for him?
If you'd care to check the time stamps, I'm not the one who re-engaged, am I?
Here's a question: why should I sit still for lame-ass parting shots like that?
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Oh, and to annoy/humor Bloodsage a bit, here's a mindless complaint based on something he said in a previous post:
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I'm not going to accept "hehe" as an excuse to say or do stupid things, or to glorify warez, drugs, racism, or any number of issues.
*ahem* OMG HOW CAN YOU JUST LUMP WAREZ IN WITH STUFF LIKE RACISM AND DRUGS? THAT'S LIKE PUTTING LITTERING IN WITH MUGGING AND DUMPING YOUR OLD MOTOR OIL IN THE STORMDRAIN!!!
JooJooFlop!I have about the same opinion of thieves as I do those other folks.
Neener .
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
And I did not ask Suchii to come in here and argue with you, despite your little high school accusation there.
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Bloodsage obviously shouldn't have said:
How sweet.Can't hang himself, so he sends his girl in to do battle for him?
Naw, I chose to jump in. I am sick of you seeing you have free reign of every single argument just because you berate and nitpick until people just give up.
Here's a question: why should I sit still for lame-ass parting shots like that?quote:
You constantly do battle from atop your verbal high horse. Yet you constantly drag yourself down into the mud simply to take the last word 'in the interest of self defense!#%'?#
Big man 
Use that smarty noodle of yours 
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Bloodsage stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
JooJooFlop!
I have about the same opinion of thieves as I do those other folks.
Neener
Mmmmmm, sandwich with a smidgen of . on the side.
I responded to you. Not the other way around.
You really suck at this. How many final posts are you going to have?
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage had this to say about Tron:
Vorbis bumped, and you brought up your tired, flawed, already-addressed arguments one more time, as if they should stand up once more.I responded to you. Not the other way around.
You really suck at this. How many final posts are you going to have?
WHO THE HELL GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT WHO REENGAGED THE GODDAMN THREAD!#%
Jesus fucking christ, you argue just like my moms boyfriend. Circular logic all the way around, bringing up DEAD FUCKING POINTS THAT NO ONE COULD GIVE TWO SHITS ABOUT.
Not a point of argument, just curiousity there. And I said I was done arguing. Not done posting. I can keep posting all I want
If your man's so pitiful he needs you to stand up for him, the whole thing's a lost cause.
None of what you said made the least bit of sense.
I'm supposed to . . . what, exactly?
Quit assuming people are intelligent enough to have a meaningful debate?
Start talking down to people, for fear my big words will scare them away?
Let any idiot have a stupid parting shot, simply because . . . you never did say why.
What you seem to be saying is I'm somehow wrong, even though my argument is sound. And that Bajah is somehow right, even though his argument is full of holes. How does that make sense?
What exactly do you think you're contributing, here?
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage attempted to be funny by writing:
If your man's so pitiful he needs you to stand up for him, the whole thing's a lost cause.
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Suchii's fortune cookie read:
WHO THE HELL GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT WHO REENGAGED THE GODDAMN THREAD!#%Jesus fucking christ, you argue just like my moms boyfriend. Circular logic all the way around, bringing up DEAD FUCKING POINTS THAT NO ONE COULD GIVE TWO SHITS ABOUT.
Are you stupid, or not paying attention?
You claimed I was unable to live without getting the last word--the fact that it was Bajah who couldn't let Vorbis have the last word proves that wrong.
It's not circular. It directly addresses your alleged point.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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A sleep deprived Bloodsage stammered:
the fact that it was Bajah who couldn't let Vorbis have the last word proves that wrong.
Actually, I just asked Vorbis a precise question, to which he could have answered and then it would be over. You were the one who jumped in and started the whole thing up again.
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Bajah's account was hax0red to write:
I should also note that in one post, you stated my analogy was 'right on' then changed your mind and stated it 'blew goats.' Why is that?
I remember the "blew goats" one, but where was the "right on" one again?
[ 05-28-2002: Message edited by: Mr. Duck ]
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Bajah impressed everyone with:
Think whatever you like, buddy-boy. I'm not arguing with you anymore, though you seem to think it fitting to continue arguing with me. I was just pointing out that you indeed started the little exchange between us. I should also note that in one post, you stated my analogy was 'right on' then changed your mind and stated it 'blew goats.' Why is that?Not a point of argument, just curiousity there. And I said I was done arguing. Not done posting. I can keep posting all I want
Your plaything is being stupid and annoying. She's not arguing, she's insulting.
I'm simply repaying in kind.
As for your analogy, I thought--since you didn't specify--that you were referring to the blender analogy of humor. As you could tell if you read my posts.
Which I said sucked the first time around, too.
Perhaps your vaunted ability to understand people failed to notice the sarcasm of saying it was a good analogy, except for all of its major parts?
Yeah, it's so obvious you're done arguing.
That must be why you bring up some lame new point each time you post.
Making this a contest of insults is just as much a losing proposition as your lame argument was, Bajah.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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JooJooFlop wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
I remember the "blew goats" one, but where was the "right on" one again?
10th post, Page 2.
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Mr. Duck got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
He needs a Dark Helmet, uh, helmet.
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Everyone wondered WTF when Bajah wrote:
Like I said, I'm not arguing anymore. Feel free to keep slinging insults. I just asked you a simple question. Thank you for the answer, as verbose and insulting as it was.
Don't be more of an ass than you have been already. Masquerading your pitiful attempts at insult as some sort of martyred sincerity is sickening.
You'd also do well to re-read page 2 of this thread, if you think it was me who restarted the argument. You are the one who not only said everyone who disagreed was mindlessly keying on the word "warez," to which I took exception, but referred to your earlier flawed analogy as if it had made some point.
If that's not re-entering the argument, then how is my reply to those flawed assertions?
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage had this to say about the Spice Girls:
What the fuck are you talking about, Suchii?If your man's so pitiful he needs you to stand up for him, the whole thing's a lost cause.
Let me put this simply. Knock it off with this shit, right now. Were you standing in front of me, I would have reduced you to paste at just a HINT of that comment. But this is the 'net, and sadly, I cannot do that. But I can, however, say FUCK OFF!
None of what you said made the least bit of sense.quote:
You were expecting it to?
I'm supposed to . . . what, exactly? quote:
Aint it obvious what side of the argument I am jumping in on? Why waste time restating points?
Quit assuming people are intelligent enough to have a meaningful debate? Start talking down to people, for fear my big words will scare them away? Let any idiot have a stupid parting shot, simply because . . . you never did say why.quote:
Your parting shots are also quite lacking. 'Nice. You go.' How about we just type that up in some guilded font, and make a new bible?
What you seem to be saying is I'm somehow wrong, even though my argument is sound. And that Bajah is somehow right, even though his argument is full of holes. How does that make sense?quote:
A sound argument does NOT make a sound cause. You are arguing over complete total BULLSHIT. The root of this entire charade is whether or not it was a joke. Even the originator said it was a joke, and you still jump his butt. Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? Explicitly defined or no, who the hell cares? He said it was a joke, get off it.
What exactly do you think you're contributing, here?quote:
Absolutely nothing! Just like everything else here. Never stopped me before 
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So quoth Bajah:
10th post, Page 2.
Ah, there it is.
First he says it's a good analogy except for the fact that Azeroth's post lacked the obvious absurdity of your example. Then he uses that exception later to point out that the analogy blew goats.
I'm going out on a limb here saying that Bloodsage was being sarcastic in the first reply regarding your analogy.
[Edit: Of course, I came up with all this before I noticed Bloodsage's replay stating this just before the post Bajah made that's I'm responding to. [ 05-28-2002: Message edited by: JooJooFlop ] ]
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Bloodsage painfully thought these words up:
Your plaything
Ya know 'Sage.. referring to ANY woman that way....
Fuckhead.
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JooJooFlop spewed forth this undeniable truth:
I'm going out on a limb here saying that Bloodsage was being sarcastic in the first reply regarding your analogy.
Aye, I see that now, which is why I asked him about it. I wanted to make sure I understood it without jumping to conclusions.
