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Comrade Snoota's fortune cookie read:
Won't Delidgamond get jealous that the subject of his Aaron Asian porn got married?
FDJLASFJSDJF;dsafsjfb'saf;lsadfjg;lasbdf
Lyinar wants a nice happy shiny place.
The picture below depicts her ideal board environment being ravaged by a silly looking monster.
Of course we've all seen it before.. but I like it.
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nem-x painfully thought these words up:
Marry me Bloodsage! We shall live in Tahiti!
*Looks left, right, and under the carpet*
Uh, I won't be expected to wear white, will I? 
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
By the way... that monster thingy looks like something off of Bubble Bobble...
It wasn't constructive, it wasn't helpful. It was mean, cruel and should never have even been said.
For the record, it wasn't how I would have responded. It was to make a point.
You didn't like my criticizing Parcelan for some minor thing I disliked about his post. Yet, you applaud him for doing the same to a so-called "idiot" whose thread he came ravaging into, and outright attacking, simply because he didn't like what was said.
There's a word for this. Let me think. I believe it begins with an H and is spelled hypocrite.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Lyinar had this to say about Robocop:
What kind of penile brain do you have if you can't even spell zone right? Why the hell do you think anyone should take you seriously or find you funny when you can't use a damned spellchecker?It's not as funny when it comes back on you, is it?
It's for copyright purposes.
As stated before, yes, Parcelan was a bit harsh, to say the least. He could have used constructive criticism or something, but, Parcelan is Parcelan.
What is wrong with the situation though, is that Parcelan does get away with such things. In fact, many do, because they're popular and stuff. Despite how I would love to change this, it's not going to happen by a direct flame or anything.
All I want is consideration. Too often we associate little blurbs to effectively catagorize the members. Instead of being a jerk and gaining mad ego points, take a little humility and do some contrstructive criticism. Or, if you still want to be a jerk, just give the thread a 1 or something. The ratings are there for a reason.
With the singer, the thing is that that is supposed to be his job, something that he is good at. Anyone, however, on this board can contribute a 'funney' or something. Are they expected to be good? Probably. But, EC is not a concert stage, or it shouldn't be, where only the best is allowed.
The best should be rewarded, yes, and those who fall short should be helped and constructively criticized.
If we all had a little more consideration for people's feelings, then, threads like these wouldn't happen as often, or at all.
Of course, if someone wants to violate this, then, they get what is due.
Parce needs consideration, Lyinar needs consideration, everyone needs consideration. We shouldn't be ego building ourselves, sorry.
It's a humble request. Not a 'omg let's love each other and be happy' post. Consideration would improve things.
I'm a hypocrite now? Holy-fucking-shit that's hilarious!
But, seeing as how I have a tiny bit of respect for you, I'm not going to dig shit up from other threads and from outside of the boards to help this argument. I'm going to sit here on a mountain of evidence and laugh.
I'm going to laugh, and drink Mountain Dew. Have fun, Lyinar.
They stepped into a thread that was appreciated only by a minority and dumped gasoline on his head and laughed as his head burned away.
I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying that you can't change anything. You aren't going to cause someone like Parcelan to change, especially now. All you're doing is digging deeper and deeper into your own grave.
Can't change anything
That is EXACTLY the reason things like this are allowed. That defeatist thinking. People care, people are bothered by this, I know you're out there. And it's not just lurkers, or unpopular people.
But they won't *say* anything. They stand by, and let things like this occur. They forget that more than likely in school, or when they were younger, or even now, *they* were treated the same way. They didn't like it, so why in the world would they think anyone else would? Why would they forget the pain it caused them to be treated like that, and stop it from happening to others?
Len made exactly the point. Consideration for others. Respecting other people. Trying to *think* before you hand out that insult, or that harmful jibe. Trying to put yourself into another person's shoes and see what that is going to do to them.
And I'm leaving work right now, so that's where I'm ending.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
In this thread, you have no point, Lyinar.
There is a basic rule in the universe: if you're going to perform in public, try to have a clue what you're doing.
No one requires perfection: even I have typos I don't bother to fix. On the other hand, unless you're Kagrama or mog, there's a reasonable expectation of facility with the language.
But that's no longer really relevant. That thread is locked. That discussion is over.
Everyone's moved on but you.
That's the real issue, here. You aren't proving a point any more than PETA is by blowing up labs and promulgating misinformation. Your pointless grandstanding, like theirs, simply alienates the mainstream audience your cause requires for success.
Acting like an idiot to protest idiots doesn't seem the wisest course of action. More people will think, "What an idiot!" than, "Oh, what delicious irony, highlightintg the injustice of EC! Jonathan Swift has nothing on Lyinar!"
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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We were all impressed when Lyinar wrote:
Parcelan is ParcelanCan't change anything
That is EXACTLY the reason things like this are allowed. That defeatist thinking. People care, people are bothered by this, I know you're out there. And it's not just lurkers, or unpopular people.
But they won't *say* anything. They stand by, and let things like this occur. They forget that more than likely in school, or when they were younger, or even now, *they* were treated the same way. They didn't like it, so why in the world would they think anyone else would? Why would they forget the pain it caused them to be treated like that, and stop it from happening to others?
Len made exactly the point. Consideration for others. Respecting other people. Trying to *think* before you hand out that insult, or that harmful jibe. Trying to put yourself into another person's shoes and see what that is going to do to them.
And I'm leaving work right now, so that's where I'm ending.
Yeah, bullshit.
You know why people are picked on in school?
Because they choose not to fit in.
Waah.
You don't have any particular right to be accepted if you choose not to play by the rules. We have no particular obligation to accept anyone who chooses not to fit in.
Welcome to society. It has norms. Conform or be ostracized.
Your choice.
"Waah, no one likes me because I don't fit in!"
Yeah, so?
EC is a community. All communities have norms. Members of all communities enforce those norms. It's called "normative behavior," in parlance of sociologists.
It's not a bad thing.
It's perfectly okay to rag on your friends, yet not permit strangers to do the same thing. It's that community thing at work.
Communities don't have an obligation to adapt to newcomers or fringe elemensts. Quite the opposite. Anyone who wants to be part of a community must conform, at least in part, to community standards.
Including you.
People who have standing in the community have more leeway than those who don't. Deal. It's not only normal, but perfectly understandable.
It's also probably the only reason you still have an account.
But it is rather ironic that you're taking advantage of the phenomenon to rail at it. And yet you speak of hypocrisy. Nice.
Sure, self-immolation makes a statement. But it's an irreversible one. And without others willing to follow, a vain one as well.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
GATHER THE PITCHFORKS, WE'RE GOING IN!
Fuck, as soon as I get mentioned in a Parcestory, it turns into a heaping pile of FLAMING SHIT. IT BURNS THE NOSTRILS.
Hey, or we could you know... Get back on topic!!!
To put it rather bluntly, some things are just wrong, whether they are the norm or not.
So, it would be ok to let the school-kids beat the crap out of one little boy just because he was different?
If someone is doing something to be annoying, then yes they should be flamed. But was Freschel doing that? As far as I can tell no, he wasn't. If his writing sucks, then ignore what he wrote, he'll get the picture that he sucks at writing stories. If he doesn't then tell him. But there is no need to flame someone who isn't doing anything wrong.
Popularity shouldn't be an excuse to do what you want. Or do you think that it is good that OJ got off with murder, or that M. Jackson got away with molesting little boys? It's not right.
Lyniar's one hell of a lot braver than anyone else who has posted so far. She is the only one who has really spoken out in this. I know that there are people that agree that Parce went to far, but you didn't correct what he did, per se. Lyniar may have over reacted, but she was still right.
Flame away, you know you want to. 
Archers Roxxors!
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
I realize that when I'm finished writing this, it'll probably look like a bunch of Zeeky Boogy Doog H-bombs had a concert in it. Sorry in advance.
Now, on to my post, post-haste! Har har i maek funney *BOOM*
Ly, I'm afraid this is one of the few times I'll have to go on Parce's side.
Yeah, Parce attacked Fresch (Mentos! The Freschmaker!) in his own thread. Was that amusing? No. Was it right? No. Was it at all cool? No. Was it even warranted? No.
However, you did the same thing here. Yeah, it was in sarcasm, but you still did it, and it goes by the same stuff. Not amusing, not right, not cool, and not even warranted.
If you really, honestly have a problem with the way Parce acts, send him a PM. Send him multiple if you feel you have to. I'm sure he'd listen. If the problem persists, take it up with Drysart, because then, Drys can speak with Parce.
Making yourself look like a one-man, or in this case, one-woman army, just makes you look really stupid and crazy. The only time I've seen a one-man army kick ass and take names was in RAMBO, and that was a movie.
My point is, if you want this to stop, it would probably be best to do it more calmly. Parce had no right to attack Fresch, but he did anyways, right? Well, that doesn't give you any more right to attack Parce. Pulling this stunt made you just as bad as him.
Instead, like I said above, send him a PM, calmly explaining whatever. (My train of thought ran into a penny on the tracks. Bleh.) Parce doesn't listen after one? Send him more. Maybe then he'll listen to you. If he doesn't listen to you then, speak with Drys about it.
Pulling this stunt just made you look like the bad guy here.
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vertue probably says this to all the girls:
So, if Human Sacrifice is a norm in a society, then it shouldn't change?To put it rather bluntly, some things are just wrong, whether they are the norm or not.
So, it would be ok to let the school-kids beat the crap out of one little boy just because he was different?
If someone is doing something to be annoying, then yes they should be flamed. But was Freschel doing that? As far as I can tell no, he wasn't. If his writing sucks, then ignore what he wrote, he'll get the picture that he sucks at writing stories. If he doesn't then tell him. But there is no need to flame someone who isn't doing anything wrong.
Popularity shouldn't be an excuse to do what you want. Or do you think that it is good that OJ got off with murder, or that M. Jackson got away with molesting little boys? It's not right.
Lyniar's one hell of a lot braver than anyone else who has posted so far. She is the only one who has really spoken out in this. I know that there are people that agree that Parce went to far, but you didn't correct what he did, per se. Lyniar may have over reacted, but she was still right.
Flame away, you know you want to.
Normally, one should read an entire thread before jumping in the middle of a flamefest.
This isn't about that other thread. That other thread is locked. Perhaps you noticed?
This is about immature grandstanding masquerading as a cause.
Which is inexcuseable, regardless of any underlying issues. So feel free to read the thread, catch up on the conversation, and come back with an actual contribution.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage obviously shouldn't have said:
Yeah, bullshit.You know why people are picked on in school?
Because they choose not to fit in.
Waah.
You don't have any particular right to be accepted if you choose not to play by the rules. We have no particular obligation to accept anyone who chooses not to fit in.
'Sage.. yer wrong abotu that one. Through midle school.. people I didn't even KNOW would wash thier hands after touching me. Why? I have no idea! Why wasn't I liked? No clue.
They made my life a living hell, and it wasn't because "I wasn't trying hard enough to fit in" or whatever.
Do you know why I was picked on in school? I was smart. That was it. I could do things people couldn't do with the work we were given. I didn't hold it over anyone's head. I didn't act like I was better than anyone. When someone came to me for help, I helped them, no matter if they were popular or not. But I was picked on for it. By the immature, idiotic jerks who have to pick on other people to make themselves feel better.
How is that choosing not to fit in? I did well in school, that was my only "crime", yet I was ridiculed and downtrodden for it. I wanted the best I could possibly have for myself, but others hated me for that. How did I "choose" to be degraded for succeeding?
That is the big flaw in your argument. You place the blame on those picked on, rather than where it belongs, with the ignorant assholes who have such little self respect, they see it as their god given right to belittle those around them, just to make their sorry asses feel better.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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We were all impressed when Bloodsage wrote:
You know why people are picked on in school?Because they choose not to fit in.
I don't fit in! CRY.
I don't actually get picked on much...hardly ever at all. I'm threatening like that, I guess.
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This insanity brought to you by Kloie:
I don't fit in! CRY.I don't actually get picked on much...hardly ever at all. I'm threatening like that, I guess.
Kloie scares me.
But hey it's the little guy, and what's the little guy there for but to step on, right? People take advantage of Parce, punt him around like a football, tease him, call him names, treat him like shit and it's okay. Then he tells people to back off and hey, we're all supposed to hop to. Because what? Because it's the right thing to do? No. Because Parcelan turns into an asshole if people tease and torment him. And despite being an asshole, Parcelan isn't punished. He isn't even warned. So he goes on doing whatever he wants to whoever he wants because hey, this is him and he has a good wit for satirical narrative and no-one wants to oppress the prairie dog.
Sounds an awful lot like Mortious to me. Remember? I do. Not long after I came to EC initially, Mort posted, and stated in the IRC channel, that he didn't come to hang out much anymore because every time he showed up he got attacked. Repeatedly. He couldn't get a word in edgewise without people emoting blowing him away. Or flaming his posts with attacks because Mort = Evil Buckethead Villain. They meant it to be in jest, and all in good fun, but what effect did it have? Mort distanced himself and almost left because of it.
Think about that. EC without Mortious. Because people didn't regulate themselves.
I don't think people around here see past their own noses, sometimes. No-one seems to get the concept of cause and effect. Treat someone badly and they aren't going to continue showing up. Very few people thrive on being treated like shit.
But of course we all wrap ourselves up in self-righteousness. "If they can't take a joke," we tell one another to console and reinforce our collective ego, "then they shouldn't come here. We define what's funny to everyone, not our fault if people don't understand the depth of our humor."
I tell you what...sometimes the humor on these boards is about as shallow as a wading pool. And morons take a springboard dive into it and make a mess.
So Freschel's initial post in the other thread wasn't grammatically pleasing. The spelling wasn't aesthetically rewarding. I think I may very well be one of the most anal people around here about that sort of thing. I see a typo in one of my own posts and I get pissed off. But I understand when someone is trying to get a point across even if they don't use the most efficient tool to do so.
I wonder if Parce even considered that the Kobold post could've been something of an homage. Parce made that form of humorous storytelling popular. It works. He's the big guy who made it popular. Someone wanted to do something like Parce. I doubt Parce thought of that.
What's worse is that he admitted that the one post was hostile in nature. I don't know if he was acknowledging the fact just to affirm it or as a means of apology, but jeez. Don't point out your fuck-ups. We all know what they are. Just don't make them!
If I shoot you with a gun or punch you in the face in the heat of anger, in a moment of irritation, or because I damned well felt like it at the time, then saying "Sorry" a moment later doesn't change the fact you did it. And if you're bragging, or swaggering around pumping your ego with a "yeah I did it, what are YOU going to do about it" attitude, then you're in the wrong. Doesn't matter who you are. Doesn't matter if you're Parcelan or Piper. Kagrama or Cadga. Lazuli or Lenlaron. It's wrong. And you should be called on it.
But no-one ever does call anyone on it. The board rules which we all are expected to have read and to know specifically prohibit trolling and hateful posting. The mods don't always hit on things, presumably because Drys believes in the idea of social peacekeeping. And Drys is the President. Drys is the Man, he has the Vote. He made the Rules, and they're there, all the time. Love 'em or leave.
So why is it...that I can see posts every day where someone's going for the jugular when they don't have to? (hateful behavior) Why can I see threads where people are goading other people into flaming off? (trolling) And why is it that the only person who gets called on it is Lyinar, or newbies or rare posters? Because they're not the most popular people around? Or because they seem naive? Or is it, perhaps, because the lot of you STILL have a fucking pack mentality.
There was a time Lyinar got hit on by a variety of guys around here. It pissed me off. Lyinar's taken. But hey if the majority thought it was funny then it must've been funny, right? It must've been okay, right? Majority rules.
Okay. So it's okay if guys hit on Piper, right? Whether she wants them to or not? Or Suchii? Or Azakias? They're all women with significant others, but hey we rule by majority here and if the majority thinks it's funny, then it's okay. While we're at it, let's crack jokes about Sage's wife. Doesn't matter if we don't know Sages wife, so long as they're funny jokes, right? Something we can all get behind? How about babies? Toktuk has a kid of his own. We can raz Lil' Tok because it's funny, so long as it's funny. Doesn't matter what the individuals think or feel.
So why is it people don't sniff after women who are spoken for? Why is it we don't crack jokes about Sage's wife, or Tok's kid? Has anyone ever stopped to think why? I mean, shit, Tok lives in Texas. He's not going to travel cross country to take issue with me. Neither is Sage. But we don't do it because there's a line you don't cross. General respect.
I once expounded on the idea of social currency. Faction, for EQ-minded people. Everything you say either bolsters or damages your faction. In theory, a new poster should have neutral faction, right? Your average, typical, no-dumbass-nick newbie to the boards should have neutral faction. That first intro post, be it starting a new thread, or just stating something on someone else's thread, brings them into the world. And for rare posters it SHOULD be pretty close to neutral. But it isn't. There's the mentality of "AHHH...FRESH MEAT" around here half the time.
So why the double standard? Why is there a line when everyone gleefully dances across it when they can?
But back to the issue at hand. Lyinar doesn't think she's saintly. I've yet to see a post where she says she's better than anyone. She thinks some people who misbehave are worse than the status quo, and occasionally delves into those realms herself to make a point (this being one of them, flaming a narrative on a minor point to expound on the concept she made elsewhere). But if she doesn't always live up to her expectations, why should that upset you all? You don't live up to the ideals you try to foist upon others.
Sage, for instance. Going on about how if you don't have the linguistic tools to say something, you should just shut up. Well not everyone has the benefit of Sage's education. A lot of people don't decide to develop their skill with the English language until they're in college. So by logic, you'd think Sage is telling the vast majority of people to shut up.
When does Sage ever shut up?
People tell Lyinar things along the line of, "If you don't like it, ignore it and don't post hostility."
What's Sage known for again? What was his Counter-Earth counterpart in Parce's satire like?
Why should Lyinar be held to a higher standard than any of you? Why should she hold herself higher? Why should she be punished if she doesn't? Why should you be hostile towards her for doing things her own way, diplomatic or bellicose, when the very thing you all love to tout is how everyone's entitled to do things their own way and to make humor and make points their way? Hmmm?
Or shall we all start writing Sage-style flame-posts? Or shall we all speak in Kagramese? Shall we all punctuate our sentences with "Rooflez" ? Shall we all start writing in long-winded Deth Essays? Can't have it both ways, folks.
Of course there's no inherent wisdom in this post. No brilliant insight. Nothing most of you haven't thought or said to yourselves, or say amongst yourselves, in the past. I'm no genius. I'm nothing more than a long-winded, ego-inflated, foolish person who goes on at length about things we all know. So feel free to ignore this. Or take it in the meaning it was meant to convey.
sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me
I just tried to fit in.
And it worked! I got to be myself, and fit in!!
The system works!
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vertue had this to say about Captain Planet:
So, if Human Sacrifice is a norm in a society, then it shouldn't change?To put it rather bluntly, some things are just wrong, whether they are the norm or not.
Depends on with whom you're speaking. If you're speaking with someone in today's Canada, they'll think human sacrifice is wrong, to go by your above example. However, if you were speaking with someone from one of the ancient Central American civilizations, the general answer would probably be that human sacrifice is okay.
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So, it would be ok to let the school-kids beat the crap out of one little boy just because he was different?
No, no it wouldn't, and you raise a good point. However, it also wouldn't be right for the little boy to retaliate.
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If someone is doing something to be annoying, then yes they should be flamed. But was Freschel doing that? As far as I can tell no, he wasn't. If his writing sucks, then ignore what he wrote, he'll get the picture that he sucks at writing stories. If he doesn't then tell him. But there is no need to flame someone who isn't doing anything wrong.
You raise another valid point. Parcelan's attack was unwarranted, but so was Lyinar's retaliation.
Besides, I'm sure that if it really ticked Fresch off, he'd be fighting his battle, not Lyinar.
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Popularity shouldn't be an excuse to do what you want. Or do you think that it is good that OJ got off with murder, or that M. Jackson got away with molesting little boys? It's not right.
This is true, however, retaliation for the act is just as bad as the act itself.
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Lyniar's one hell of a lot braver than anyone else who has posted so far. She is the only one who has really spoken out in this. I know that there are people that agree that Parce went to far, but you didn't correct what he did, per se. Lyniar may have over reacted, but she was still right.
Ly was brave in posting what she did, but too much courage can make someone seem stupid. Also, Lyinar's not the only one that's spoken out against this sort of thing. 
Lyinar isn't right, neither is Parcelan. They're both wrong, Parce for starting it, and Ly for retaliating.
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Flame away, you know you want to.
Sometimes, I find that not flaming is better than flaming. Thus, this post. 
Sorry to disappoint you.
quote:Usually I do, but that's too fucking long, and I'm too tired.
Dr. Vorbis's fortune cookie read:
I bet you that only 3 people will read that entire deth essay.
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Liam had this to say about Punky Brewster:
I used to be made fun of during school.I just tried to fit in.
And it worked! I got to be myself, and fit in!!
The system works!
Would you like to see the KegEssay I just wrote to my friend Sam about hiding behind a false personality and enflamed ego to make yourself appear better in the eyes of certain people?
[ 05-03-2002: Message edited by: Kegwen ]
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Gikkwiny's account was hax0red to write:
'Sage.. yer wrong abotu that one. Through midle school.. people I didn't even KNOW would wash thier hands after touching me. Why? I have no idea! Why wasn't I liked? No clue.They made my life a living hell, and it wasn't because "I wasn't trying hard enough to fit in" or whatever.
She's right. Immaturity spawns strange things like this.
You have to change yourself to fit into society. I'm currently trying to crack the shell that my friend Sam has crawled into... It's not easy.
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Bloodsage stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Normally, one should read an entire thread before jumping in the middle of a flamefest.@@@@I've read the entire thread. And the one that Freschel wrote.
This isn't about that other thread. That other thread is locked. Perhaps you noticed?
@@@@Funny, I got the impression that it was. "Not funny when it happens to you parce, is it?" would kind of tip it off, wouldn't you think? My point was that what Parce did was wrong anyway. Now, I will agree that Lyniar shouldn't have Attacked Parce in his post, there are better ways to deal with it, but that does not negate the fact that what Parce did wasn't right. And, for the record, I thought that Parce's story in this thread was funny.
This is about immature grandstanding masquerading as a cause.
@@@@Oh, I think it is much more than that. Is there Immature Grandstanding involved? Yes. It "warped" the cause and Lyniar attacked parce out of anger and Sarcasm, but the cause was still there.
Which is inexcuseable, regardless of any underlying issues. So feel free to read the thread, catch up on the conversation, and come back with an actual contribution.
@@@@@If it is Inexcuseable for her, then why isn't it for Parce? In fact, she didn't go nearly as far as Parce did. The reasons that they did it may not be the same, but do the means "unjustify" then end?
Archers Roxxors!
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So quoth Lyinar:
Typical jock bullshit, Sage. You've already said you were popular in school, so in my eyes you have nothing to stand on in this sort of argument. You haven't experienced this, so until you've been in shoes of those who were picked on, save your judgemental, egotistical bullshit.Do you know why I was picked on in school? I was smart. That was it. I could do things people couldn't do with the work we were given. I didn't hold it over anyone's head. I didn't act like I was better than anyone. When someone came to me for help, I helped them, no matter if they were popular or not. But I was picked on for it. By the immature, idiotic jerks who have to pick on other people to make themselves feel better.
How is that choosing not to fit in? I did well in school, that was my only "crime", yet I was ridiculed and downtrodden for it. I wanted the best I could possibly have for myself, but others hated me for that. How did I "choose" to be degraded for succeeding?
That is the big flaw in your argument. You place the blame on those picked on, rather than where it belongs, with the ignorant assholes who have such little self respect, they see it as their god given right to belittle those around them, just to make their sorry asses feel better.
Waah.
I was the smartest kid in my class, too. So fuck off with your pathetic self-pity.
Most kids who get picked on are not innocent victims. See Solstyce's last contribution to one of the many whining threads on this topic. She said she deliberately tries to be scary and abrasive, yet blames everyone else for not accepting her into the fold. Just like you and your bullshit.
You've got the same stupid argument as Emil: "Oh, you can't possibly understand my pain, since you're not <insert race/gender/bullshit> like me.
Exactly what is it you think you know about me?
Wanna know why I was popular? Because I chose to fit in. End of story.
It wasn't automatic. It wasn't easy. It didn't involve expecting others to conform to my expectations. And it certainly didn't involve self-pity as substitute for self-improvement.
I speak, not as someone who was always one of the "in crowd," but as someone who did exactly what I advocate, and went from marginal to popular through simply trying to fit in.
Would you like salt with that foot, or have you become used to the taste?
Further, you keep trying to cloud the issue. The thread where you may have had a point is locked. You are the offender, here.
And the only thing you've proved is your inability to accept a situation maturely. And that you have something against Parcelan, which has been obvious for more than a year.
Feel free to keep telling me what I have and have not experienced. But be aware that I simply don't engage where I lack experience or expertise. If you think otherwise, feel free to provide an example.
You've said many times you hated the things others liked, and made no attempt to fit in--expecting everyone else to conform to your ideas of proper conduct. Just as you have here.
Everyone else see the ironic disconnect. Can you?
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Ruvyen Warblade had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
Sometimes, I find that not flaming is better than flaming. Thus, this post.Sorry to disappoint you.
You are correct, I do agree that what Lyniar did to attack Parce was wrong. But I think that the reasoning behind it, the "cause" as Bloodsage put it was right.
But the ends do not justify the means.
Archers Roxxors!
It's Captain Pussywhipped and the I-must-support-Lyinar-or-I-might-not-get-any essay! What a surprise!
When was the last time you had a point other than "Yes, ma'am" when Lyinar was being stupid?
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Dr. Vorbis spewed forth this undeniable truth:
I bet you that only 3 people will read that entire deth essay.
I read it...
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ACES! Another post by Kegwen:
So basically, you forfeited your true self so you could be friends with the popular fuckchops? Wow, what a spineless bastard you are.
WTFY?
You can either fit in, or not. If you choose not to, then you've no right to bitch at those who don't accept you.
It has nothing to do with "being true to yourself." Get a grip.
If you have a question, feel free to ask it. Otherwise, I suggest you keep comments about being "spineless" to yourself. Unless you'd like to compare combat records, or some other mutually-agreeable standard for demonstrating backbone?
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Kegwen had this to say about (_|_):
So basically, you forfeited your true self so you could be friends with the popular fuckchops? Wow, what a spineless bastard you are.
I have lost nothing of my true self. I still skateboard, I still play drums, I still do Karate, I still listen to punk music, I still do everything I enjoy. I am also popular. I didn't have to do anything to fit in other than have an ego to match anyone else's and stick up for my self and not hide when adversary comes along.
I fit in, but to look at me you wouldn't know it.
