Take a sip if
Obama says: hope, change, family, community, Bush's 3rd term
McCain says: experience, reform, P.O.W., Vietnam, liberal
Take a shot if
Obama says anything about a single mother, talks about failed policies of the past
McCain starts a sentence "my friends", says Bipartisan
Chug a beer if
the camera goes to a black person that is not in Obama's family, or Obama himself, or the Democrats give him a standing ovation
The G.O.P gives McCain a standing ovation, McCain tells a funny joke
3 shots if
Obama says: Barakattack or booyah
McCain says: MILF, VPILF, or GILF
Brew, then chug a case of moonshine if Maradon! fucked around with this message on 09-26-2008 at 07:58 PM.
anyone says the "N" word
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Check out the big brain on Maradon!!
The debate starts in 15 minutesTake a sip if
Obama says: hope, change, family, community, Bush's 3rd term
McCain says: experience, reform, P.O.W., Vietnam, liberal
Even at only a sip, I think this would cause alcohol poisoning.
Sadly it was a single Miller Light and seeing as it was with my sister and all of her campaign contributors (She's running for State Rep.) at a local Fuddrucker's, I don't think downing shots would have looked appropriate. 
PS: Fuck you.
Wait, there was a debate tonight? Fuck! I guess I'll just start drinking to the news coverage!
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
We got fucking blitzed.
She couldn't even handle a Katie Couric interview without mixing up her talking points to the point of incoherancy.
Seriously, watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ9bP_AqHPg
The Palin answer starts at about 28 seconds.
Way to convince people that you know what you're talking about, Joe. Maradon! fucked around with this message on 09-27-2008 at 04:36 PM.
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Maradon! had this to say about Knight Rider:
Joe Biden thinks FDR went on television in 1929 to lead the nation.Way to convince people that you know what you're talking about, Joe.
Oh boy, Biden accidently mixed up something that happened 60 years ago.
Yes, that certainly compares to Palin's train wreck interviews.
Biden was out doing media interviews after the debate last night. Palin was not. I wonder why...
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x--ZairO-('-'Q) :
Seriously, watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ9bP_AqHPgThe Palin answer starts at about 28 seconds.
Haha, wow, ask a stupid question get a stupid answer I suppose.
Couric's question didn't make any sense to begin with. Why not give a trillion dollars to low income families instead of bailing out AIG?
Hm, on the one hand a trillion dollars in welfare to create the exact same kind of keynesian "demand-side" idioicy that kept us in the Great Depression nine years longer than we needed to, but at best wouldn't even do anything even related to the credit market...
...or buy up the bad mortgages of one of the world's largest security banks.
She created a false choice between two totally unrelated issues. It's like asking "Why wear pants when we could play basketball?"
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Peanut butter ass Shaq Zair booooze lime pole over bench lick:
Oh boy, Biden accidently mixed up something that happened 60 years ago.Yes, that certainly compares to Palin's train wreck interviews.
Biden was out doing media interviews after the debate last night. Palin was not. I wonder why...
That's the most active he's been in months, then. He was nominated then dropped off the radar.
Palin's interview with Charlie Gibson went great, probably because he didn't ask any idiotic questions. In fact, Palin has been awesome in every interview I've seen her give except that one.
How unexpected that CNN's answer to Keith Olbermann would pick that interview to harp on.
See, if you got your news from places other than Colbert and the Huffington Post you might actually have a valid appraisal of reality.
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Maradon! stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
Haha, wow, ask a stupid question get a stupid answer I suppose.
Yeah, you realized it was a stupid question. So did I. So would McCain and Obama, probably, and they would have addressed that fact.
Palin just basically heard key words in the question and inserted nonsensical talking points.
Answering a nonsensical question with a nonsensical answer is not excusable, and I can't believe you would think it is. It is evidence that she didn't realize it was nonsensical. She should have tried to reframe the question or ANYTHING.
Here is another short portion of the terrible terrible interview for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM72M62jAUc
Just admit Palin is pretty terrible.
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How.... Maradon!.... uughhhhhh:
That's the most active he's been in months, then. He was nominated then dropped off the radar.
Completely wrong. I've seen at least four short interviews with him on cable news in the last few weeks, and that is just when I have been watching. How are the GOP getting all these supposed gaffes if he hasn't been in the media spotlight? You can't have it both ways.
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x--ZairO-('-'Q) :
Palin just basically heard key words in the question and inserted nonsensical talking points.Answering a nonsensical question with a nonsensical answer is not excusable, and I can't believe you would think it is. It is evidence that she didn't realize it was nonsensical. She should have tried to reframe the question or ANYTHING.
Just admit Palin is pretty terrible.
You're fooling yourself if you think she's terrible. Living in a fantasy world where Palin isn't good at a debate isn't going to help you advance the cause of socialism, or any other cause for that matter.
For every case of verbal diarrhea you can find for Palin, you could just as easy google up one or two for Barack or Hillary or any other high-exposure politician, and Biden is legendary for sticking his foot in his mouth.
Anyone remember "58 states"? "My muslim faith"? "I can't hear myself"? When Obama's off the teleprompter he blows it just as often as any human being. Do you hear me trying to say Obama is stupid? I'm more concerned by the things he says and actually means.
My muslim faith. I wonder if George Stephanopoulos would have helped out and corrected a republican like he did Obama 
I can't hear myself. This is a favorite. Maradon! fucked around with this message on 09-27-2008 at 06:46 PM.
All of your Biden and Obama examples are of misspeaking in one sentence. For example, I don't think either of us believe that Obama thinks that the US has 57 states or that he is a muslim.
All of the Palin examples are of her being unable to make her point at all, when given all the time in the world to make it.
She was essentially nonsensical through the entire interview.
That is different from accidently saying 57 instead of 50. You know this too, but for some reason you are unable to admit it. If you aren't a Republican, why do you feel the need to blindly defend Palin?
She claims that she has foreign policy experience because she is close to Russia.
She got her Bachelors in Sports Journalism in 6 years. No further education
She doesn't know what the Bush Doctrine is.
She believes in creationism.
I honestly don't believe she is even that bright.
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Zair probably says this to all the girls:
I honestly don't believe she is even that bright.
She's the governor of a state... Someone apparently thought that she was bright.
Queue but it's only Alaska.
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x--ZairO-('-'Q) :
How can you not see the difference between slips of the tongue and meandering, nonsense answers?
Why can't you see that there isn't a difference? Politicians have been caught off guard countless times and the result is often funny, but doesn't mean a god damn thing.
Why do you totally discount the Charles Gibson interview where she answered all the questions with perfect coherence? And her speech at the RNC? Do a little research and you'll see that the teleprompter broke and she did most of it off the cuff. There are dozens of examples of Palin answering questions and organizing her words perfectly well. You have one example of her blabbering, and listening to this interview, you're pretty drastically exaggerating even that.
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That is different from accidently saying 57 instead of 50. You know this too, but for some reason you are unable to admit it. If you aren't a Republican, why do you feel the need to blindly defend Palin?
Words have a specific meaning. "Blindly" would imply that I'm defending her with no evidence or rationale, which is the opposite of what I'm doing. You, on the other hand, are spinning a few poorly worded remarks in one interview out of dozens into a candidate being stupid, and providing no other real arguments or refuting the counterexamples I have provided.
So the quesiton is, why do you feel the need to blindly attack Palin?
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She claims that she has foreign policy experience because she is close to Russia.
Yeah that's actually true, the alaskan state government has to deal with Russia on a regular basis over maritime concerns, the fishing industry, and other geographic crap.
Now that's a pretty weak fucking argument for "foreign policy experience", but the claim at least makes sense.
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She got her Bachelors in Sports Journalism in 6 years. No further education
We've been over this before, I could care less that she doesn't have the longest academic record. Our country has an absolutely horrible record with college educated presidents.
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She doesn't know what the Bush Doctrine is.
I don't either. What is the Bush Doctrine? I only ever hear the phrase from epithet spewing party shills, and they're never very specific.
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She believes in creationism.
You got me there, but so does Harry Reid.
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
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Why do you totally discount the Charles Gibson interview where she answered all the questions with perfect coherence? And her speech at the RNC? Do a little research and you'll see that the teleprompter broke and she did most of it off the cuff. There are dozens of examples of Palin answering questions and organizing her words perfectly well. You have one example of her blabbering, and listening to this interview, you're pretty drastically exaggerating even that.
That is an urban legend. The only source on her teleprompter breaking is McCain campaign members. Several reporters report seeing the teleprompter during the speech, and it was functioning.
here is some video evidence, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJHN30Qaglg
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Maradon! was all like:You got me there, but so does Harry Reid.
Who cares about Harry Reid? He shouldn't be president or vice president either. Don't try to divert things. That doesn't detract from the point that Palin doesn't believe in fucking dinosaurs.
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I don't either. What is the Bush Doctrine? I only ever hear the phrase from epithet spewing party shills, and they're never very specific.
No offense, but you are pretty uninformed then. Even I had heard of it, and knew that at least it had to do with preemptive strikes, etc.
It is used in any of the major foreign policy journals as well as just about any national newspaper.
Hell, if Palin had even watched the Primary debates she would have known what it was, because it was used in a question, and explained.
Also, Palin lied about the Bridge to Nowhere. She previously supported it, then killed it off when it became political poison. She kept the money for her state too.
Also, she never sold the governor plane on ebay, she tried and it didn't work. She later sold it at a loss of millions of dollars.
I reiterate, Palin is terrible.
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Verily, Maradon! doth proclaim:
You got me there, but so does Harry Reid.
Being as Harry is our senior senator, I've often found it amazing that practically every single person I've talked to about him professes to hate his guts, yet he keeps managing to get himself re-elected every six years.
Hmmmmm.
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The propaganda machine of Kegwen's junta released this statement:
That's actually a pretty big problem with Congress. As a body it has a really low approval rate, yet people are attached to their representatives/Senators anyway. What gives there?
Tribalism. The closer you are to someone, the easier it is to forgive their flaws.
As for the debate, before I blacked out, I thought both of them did OK. No one fucked up, no one hit a knockout blow. If you had to declare a winner, I don't think you could. That, or both guys could.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Mr. Parcelan said:
What's the one school of thought where you think God created man, but God did not create all men equal
Christianism.
Or the fact that she was so incapable of running the government in a town of 9,000 people, that she had to hire a city manager to take over her duties?
She's horrible. I know you are incredibly adept at suppressing reality when it disagrees with your exceedingly myopic worldview, but this is a new level.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/27/tina-fey-as-sarah-palin-k_n_129956.html
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A sleep deprived Blindy. stammered:
How about the fact that Palin went to 5 different schools in 4 years to receive a bachelor's degree in journalism?
That's irrelevant. I went to 6 different schools over the course of 13 years to earn my bachelor's degree. The fact she still graduated in FOUR years despite the changes is a credit to her ability to stay focused on her goal.
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Blindy. thought about the meaning of life:
Or the fact that she was so incapable of running the government in a town of 9,000 people, that she had to hire a city manager to take over her duties?
Because she wanted someone to take care of the day-to-day details so she could focus on the bigger picture of managing a town? Do you think that the mayor wants to sit at a desk all day doing nothing but taking phone calls about every little pothole in the roads? That's what a city manager can do leaving the mayor free to actually address the issues in a prioritized and non-reactive manner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odXbTdvHCik
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Maradon! said:That's the most active he's been in months, then. He was nominated then dropped off the radar.
Also, just to call you out on your off-the-cuff bullshit some more, CNN mentions in one of their articles on their site that Biden has done over 100 interviews since the announcement of him as VP pick only 5 WEEKS ago.
Palin has done 3. Zair fucked around with this message on 09-28-2008 at 03:56 PM.
I ask these questions merely in good faith, because we all know CNN is a perfectly balanced news team, and has no political leaning or preference.
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Anakha's PS3 was naked while typing this:
Where are the records of these interviews Biden has done? What does CNN constitute as an interview? Does asking Biden one question count as an interview for him, and asking Palin 20 count as an interview for her?I ask these questions merely in good faith, because we all know CNN is a perfectly balanced news team, and has no political leaning or preference.
CNN does not have a liberal bias. Saying it does not make it true.
Here is a second source, Washington Post (was from a week ago, and estimated 80ish interviews).
http://mobile.washingtonpost.com/detail.jsp?key=280302&rc=trail_po&p=0#___1__
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Zair had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
CNN does not have a liberal bias. Saying it does not make it true.Here is a second source, Washington Post (was from a week ago, and estimated 80ish interviews).
http://mobile.washingtonpost.com/detail.jsp?key=280302&rc=trail_po&p=0#___1__
If I'm reading that article right, most of those "interviews" consists of Biden's random commentary on whatever he happens to be thinking about at the moment. Find some stats on how many actual interviews of substance regarding his political position he's done.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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Check out the big brain on Damnati!
If I'm reading that article right, most of those "interviews" consists of Biden's random commentary on whatever he happens to be thinking about at the moment. Find some stats on how many actual interviews of substance regarding his political position he's done.
You did read it wrong.
Meet the Press:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwCVlmqN0wk
Good Morning America:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG_3jePvyF0&feature=related
Today Show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V544QfumwUY&feature=user
Morning Joe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtXa9KGkNcY&feature=user
CBS, Katie Couric
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=kBl7jrD1GzU
NBC, Brian Williams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiwLzHnGr4w&feature=related
60 Minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7jdzyUhYWo
ABC News:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l04uWvJJlSE&feature=related
CNN, Wolf Blitzer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB3MVphrJRk
That is all I found before I got bored.
Remember, like the article mentioned, a lot of interviews were for local news affiliates or newspapers/news magazines, so they are a bit harder to track down on the web.
edit: Yes, so let us continue to defend the statement that Joe Biden has been a recluse to the media Zair fucked around with this message on 09-28-2008 at 06:23 PM.
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Zair stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
You did read it wrong.That is all I found before I got bored.
Remember, like the article mentioned, a lot of interviews were for local news affiliates or newspapers/news magazines, so they are a bit harder to track down on the web.
edit: It took me like five minutes to find more than double the amount of Palin interviews.
No question he's done more than Palin, it just looked to me like he was being credited with a lot more substantial interviews than he's actually done. I do get the impression by some of what a friend's told me of Palin that there are better things to discredit her with than a lack of interviews or giving nonsensical answers to stupid questions. I understand she fired or tried to fire an Alaska state trooper because he had a bad divorce with one of her relatives and subsequently ignored a subpoena from a court case relating to that. I'm not sure I remember that correctly or not but it smells pretty bad to me. Can anyone elucidate that story?
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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Damnati was naked while typing this:
I understand she fired or tried to fire an Alaska state trooper because he had a bad divorce with one of her relatives and subsequently ignored a subpoena from a court case relating to that. I'm not sure I remember that correctly or not but it smells pretty bad to me. Can anyone elucidate that story?
There's a big investigation in Alaska on whether she improperly used her position, but as it stands, nothing dirty about it has come out. No subpoena was issued towards her directly, and the Atty. General has said no State employee will be allowed to testify (or something along that line.)
Overall, she's a lot cleaner politically than Obama/Biden/McCain.
Obama - Too many people around him that's been a problem to the current econnomic crisis. Plus the allegations that have been quashed(aka silenced from the media) on how he became senator for Il. And his apparent directing his followers to boycott a radio Station in Chicago that has a different view point to what he's said. He is a Socialist in Democrat Clothes.
Biden - Foot in Mouth Disease..... it won't end if he's elected to VP.
McCain - Has one hell of a back record on different policies that were way to far leaning than what he's commented on. I'm sorry, amnesty for Illegals has only caused a problem much worse for the states than letting the BP do their job. A fence is nice, but we(So-Cal) know how well that works... If it was only legal to shoot them on sight, or if we had the draconian laws that Mexico has about it's immigration....
Palin - Small record, increased spending, but did what she said she was going to do, be it against her own party or anyone. Overall, troopergate is just a small measly thing of which she most likely be acquitted on.
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Did someone say Vernaltemptress:
Because she wanted someone to take care of the day-to-day details so she could focus on the bigger picture of managing a town? Do you think that the mayor wants to sit at a desk all day doing nothing but taking phone calls about every little pothole in the roads? That's what a city manager can do leaving the mayor free to actually address the issues in a prioritized and non-reactive manner.
What bigger picture is there to running a town with (I just checked) 6,200 people in it? She was inept. Plain and simple. She spent $50,000 in her first term remodeling her office, which was against the town bylaws. The council called her out on it and she said, basically, I'm mayor, I can do what I want. Then she fired a few people that looked at her funny. And a librarian who just happened to be in the room at the time.
All she succeeded in doing in her second term is building a 13 million dollar athletic center which no one wanted or uses because it's too far away from the population center for kids to get to on their own (putting the town 15 million in debt).
Hey guys check it out I'm making up half-truths and interpreting events with only a cursory glance at the record to make a candidate look bad! I should be on McCain's ad team.
