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Maradon! had this to say about (_|_):
I have absolutely no idea where you people complaining about the graphics are coming from.
WoW looks better on my Macbook's GMA 950 than Warhammer looks on my modern PC.
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Maradon! said this about your mom:
My system is different from yours in no non-trivial way, so something's wrong.
My bet's on drivers. I'd check both video card and mobo chipset for updates.
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Kegwen had this to say about Punky Brewster:
WoW looks better on my Macbook's GMA 950 than Warhammer looks on my modern PC.
You must have something royally fucked up. WoW is like shit scraped over pimply ass no matter how good a system you have; Warhammer is far and away better, somewhat like EQ2 only less plastic.
Edit: not the best way to put it. In terms of environments as compared to WoW, Warhammer is like EQ2. I think the models are significantly better than either has to offer. Damnati fucked around with this message on 09-08-2008 at 11:28 PM.
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Maradon! said this about your mom:
I was more referring to the suggestion that a game might look different on a Mac but yes, WoW looked dated when it was released and it's beyond dated now.
The GMA 950 is an old ass Intel integrated video solution; old enough that it runs pixel shader 2.0. I don't think his point was that a Mac looked better so much that his modern PC can't make WAR looked as good as it should.
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Maradon! had this to say about Duck Tales:
I was more referring to the suggestion that a game might look different on a Mac but yes, WoW looked dated when it was released and it's beyond dated now.
basically my point was that WoW seems to look better or is at least on par with WAR in my situation where WoW is rendered by an ancient Intel integrated video solution and WAR is being rendered by a modern PC. It shouldn't even be close
I hope there's something wrong with it, because this just can't be what a high-budget game looks like in 2008. The game as my computer is rendering it is inexcusable Kegwen fucked around with this message on 09-09-2008 at 12:27 AM.
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Kegwen said this about your mom:
basically my point was that WoW seems to look better or is at least on par with WAR in my situation where WoW is rendered by an ancient Intel integrated video solution and WAR is being rendered by a modern PC. It shouldn't even be closeI hope there's something wrong with it, because this just can't be what a high-budget game looks like in 2008. The game as my computer is rendering it is inexcusable
Here's what it looks like on my machine compared with WoW. In both cases, settings are maxed out. I will say I probably need to turn on forced anti-aliasing as Mythic doesn't appear to have set the game to do that on its own as yet but the difference graphical quality is still pretty clear.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
Mythic needs to hire a whole new animation team, though. Unless the animations are being limited by graphical settings, I guess.
Also: in my experience, WoW's in-game screenshot utility produces washed out colors and doesn't really reflect what the game looks like in motion
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Kegwen had this to say about (_|_):
Admittedly I'm usually inclined to like heavily stylized games over more realistic ones, but I really just don't see a huge advantage in those screenshots. Maybe I just hate Mythic's art direction.Mythic needs to hire a whole new animation team, though. Unless the animations are being limited by graphical settings, I guess.
Also: in my experience, WoW's in-game screenshot utility produces washed out colors and doesn't really reflect what the game looks like in motion
To cite the two very most obvious improvements in WAR of over WoW, look at the ground textures and at the buildings. WoW is notoriously muddy and cheap in those regards. There are places where you can see the seams between textures. As for WoW's screenshot utility, that's about what WoW looks like in motion on my system.
There was a patch today with something about polishing pass on the different career's animations.
Edit: it occurs to wonder why it is you dislike WAR's animations in relation to WoW. At the very very minimum, WAR has distinct animations for each class and they're not bad. WoW animations are basically all the same. There are a few little differences based on race but even those are pretty minor. Damnati fucked around with this message on 09-09-2008 at 01:15 AM.
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From a purely technical perspective, Warhammer's engine and graphics far surpass WoW, it pushes more polygons and has lots of features to enhance overall quality like LOD for both models and animations.
From an aesthetic perspective, WoW's art direction is different than Warhammer's. WoW takes a less realistic, almost cartoonish approach, and does rather well with fewer polygons. Warhammer's graphics shoot for closer to realism. Which you like better is going to be a matter of which approach you like best.
Personally, I like WoW's graphics better overall because they're more consistent; and because you don't have models animating at 4 frames per second just because they're more than 30 yards away from you. It makes for pretty screenshots but it looks terrible in motion, in my opinion.
I'm the kind of guy that'd take the new Prince of Persia over Crysis, though.
edit: I only got to level 4 on a Dark Elf, mind you, so it's not like I've experienced high level spells/armor/areas/mechanics. Kegwen fucked around with this message on 09-09-2008 at 01:50 AM.
Edit: grammars Damnati fucked around with this message on 09-09-2008 at 02:06 AM.
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Beta players say that the game looks better in Northrend, at least
WAR actually feels like shit is going on.
The judge of this game will be whether or not people are inclined to stick around for the weeks that follow with bugs being hammered out. WoW had tons of bugs itself.
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Oh, right, you were that guy who thought that it was reasonable to retexture all of AzerothBeta players say that the game looks better in Northrend, at least
You can go to BC zones and find the same shitty quality and muddy textures. If you want to get into something more universal, look at character models and textures. Low polygon counts are neither biggest nor the only problem with them. There's no defending the overall bad quality of WoW's graphics given the income Blizzard has, even considering their other projects.
Edit: I'd totally forgotten all the retarded reskinned monsters as Parce mentioned. That's a major annoyance in itself. Damnati fucked around with this message on 09-09-2008 at 02:25 AM.
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Maradon! had this to say about Pirotess:
My system is different from yours in no non-trivial way, so something's wrong.
Most likely drivers -- I can run WAR fine on my macbook pro's 8600GS. But I needed to gut the 177.42's driver files to force them to install, since nVidia is getting retarded driver-wise. Older drivers would have me thrash the hard drive as soon as I moved. Doesn't make any sense, but there you have it.
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Maradon! had this to say about John Romero:
I'm using 177.79
Check your chipset drivers (in my case, nforce 680i sli version 9.64) and check to make sure your RAM is set at the correct voltage and timings. This is kind of nutty to say but check your video card and make sure it's firmly seated. I've had problems with that before...
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
Or maybe it's my internet connection
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Kegwening:
Your framerate shouldn't be affected by a high ping, even if it's something ridiculous like 20 seconds
I was making absurd suggestions in response to absurd suggestions.
While trying to reinstall my video card drivers, since you apparently have to do that when you flash your bios, I accidentally deleted, of all things, the warhammer client.
So I guess I'll let you know if it worked tomorrow. Maradon! fucked around with this message on 09-09-2008 at 08:11 PM.
Clearly you should not be allowed to use computer machines
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Greenliting:
Actually yes that is your My Documents folder but I don't know why you would have underscores and shit involvedClearly you should not be allowed to use computer machines
I redefined my my documents folder as something else (C:\stuff) but apparently the original stays around and keeps being a my documents folder for some things.
I also redefined My Music to my mp3's folder, and my pictures to Porn. I basically went bananas telling windows where to put things once I found out how neatly it all clicked.
Until now
In vista's defense, it was probably my fault since I was saving things to \\users\documents assuming that it was just a mount point for wherever the my documents folder was. Maradon! fucked around with this message on 09-09-2008 at 08:27 PM.
No I'm not, Mythic. I promise.
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Greenlit attempted to be funny by writing:
I just wish I wasn't getting "You are already logged in" errors now that the authorization server is back up.
Each time you try it, it resets. Just chill for like 10-15 minutes and then try again.
