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Latest PLAYSTATION 3 Firmware Update Provides PlayStation, PlayStation 2 and DVD UpscalingRemote Play on PSP (PlayStation Portable) via the Internet and DLNA transfer of media content also enabled
London, 24 May 2007 – Sony Computer Entertainment Europe (SCEE) announced today availability of the latest version of the PLAYSTATION®3 (PS3™ ) firmware. Version 1.80 features upscaling of PlayStation® and PlayStation 2 games, and DVD movies up to full 1080p HD resolution when viewed on a compatible HD TV set.
The capability to upscale DVDs to HD quality is a feature normally only associated with top range DVD players, and its inclusion in the latest firmware upgrade now allows PS3 owners with an existing DVD collection to dramatically enhance the viewing pleasure of their DVD collection when viewed through a compatible HD TV set1. Not only can DVD movies be enhanced to full 1080p HD quality but so too will PlayStation 2 and PlayStation games be upscaled to provide much improved gaming pleasure.
In a comprehensive update to PS3’s already impressive capabilities, Version 1.80 also allows users to enjoy Remote Play on their PSP across the internet, allowing them to access their PS3 anywhere in the world where a broadband internet connection is available2.
Version 1.80 also allows users on a home network to seamlessly view and play rich media content such as images, music and video on their PS3, that is stored on their DLNA3 enabled devices such as PCs and laptops elsewhere in the house, reinforcing PS3’s credentials as a home entertainment hub that truly deserves pride of place in the Living Room.
A host of other enhancements include the ability to print photo images stored on PS3’s hard disk or inserted storage media to a selection of Epson printers.
PS3 owners will be able to upgrade their PS3 with the latest Version 1.80 firmware from 24th May 2007.
The DNLA3 thing seems obviously an attempt to compete with the XBox 360, which links up to Windows Media Center PC's the same way; but the PSP thing is pretty cool, assuming it works well. I could see myself using it fairly frequently, depending on how easy it is to set up. Khyron fucked around with this message on 05-23-2007 at 10:30 AM.
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Skaw had this to say about Tron:
Upscaling PS2 games is an awful idea. I've seen the screenshots of 1080 FF12. God the textures look like shit stretched that much.
I haven't seen any screenshots; I saw some older screenshots of PS1/2 games that were horribly aliased on PS3, but supposedly that issue was fixed in the 1.50 firmware. Got a link? I'd be interested to see them.
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Verily, the chocolate bunny rabbits doth run and play while Maradon! gently hums:
Why are you even using HDMI? You do realize that it's nothing but a DVI cable with less shielding right?
Except it's looking that HDMI will win out as being more common, but both are a valid choice. Does the elite have a DVI port?
At any rate, the best option is to buy a video receiver that uses internal HD switching and has multiple HDMI/DVI ports so you only have to have one output to your TV. A good A/V receiver is the answer to multiple inputs, not a switch box.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Except it's looking that HDMI will win out as being more common, but both are a valid choice. Does the elite have a DVI port?At any rate, the best option is to buy a video receiver that uses internal HD switching and has multiple HDMI/DVI ports so you only have to have one output to your TV. A good A/V receiver is the answer to multiple inputs, not a switch box.
How much would something like that run me? Depending on price, I may buy one now (unless it is too god awful expensive, then I wait till I'm done with grad school).
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Naimah stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
First hand 'good' av equipment costs your first born.
Anything that's considered good will pretty much cost more than my 37" television and that's pretty much out of the question 
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Bent over the coffee table, Falaanla Marr squealed:
How much would something like that run me? Depending on price, I may buy one now (unless it is too god awful expensive, then I wait till I'm done with grad school).
Unfortunately, that's the downside. An A/V receiver that uses internal HD switching (doesn't downconvert the input and upconvert the output) will be pretty near top-of-the-line. High 3-digit price at best.
HDMI and DVI cables are fucking expensive, too, dammit.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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How.... Bloodsage.... uughhhhhh:
Unfortunately, that's the downside. An A/V receiver that uses internal HD switching (doesn't downconvert the input and upconvert the output) will be pretty near top-of-the-line. High 3-digit price at best.HDMI and DVI cables are fucking expensive, too, dammit.
Only if you buy in the wrong place. MonoPrice
They certainly take your arm and a leg at a brick and mortar, but online not so much. If a HDMI works at all, its working as good as it can.
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Peanut butter ass Shaq Alaan booooze lime pole over bench lick:
They certainly take your arm and a leg at a brick and mortar, but online not so much. If a HDMI works at all, its working as good as it can.
The irony of "monster" brand digital cables 
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Skaw stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
Upscaling PS2 games is an awful idea. I've seen the screenshots of 1080 FF12. God the textures look like shit stretched that much.
Image on the left - original, no scaling. Image on the right - scaled to 1080p, with filtering enabled.
Image upscaled but not filtered - left. Image upscaled, with filtering on - right.
The second is a crappy image to begin with, but it shows how much of a difference the smoothing/filtering makes. I wish I had a PS2 / Upscaled no filtering / Upscaled w/ filtering comparison but that's all I saw. Khyron fucked around with this message on 05-24-2007 at 02:16 PM.
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Channeling the spirit of Sherlock Holmes, Alaan absently fondled Watson and proclaimed:
$120 for a 8 foot HDMI cable.
My 20-foot for the projector was more than 3 times that.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
http://onkeh.net/pix/oldfirmware.jpg <- MGS3 running on a PS3, 480P, no hardware scaling (With the old PS3 firmware)
http://onkeh.net/pix/fullsmooth.jpg <- Scaled and with smoothing enabled.
EDIT - all images courtesy of the PS3 megathread on SA Khyron fucked around with this message on 05-24-2007 at 02:47 PM.
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From the book of Skaw, chapter 3, verse 16:
Upscaling PS2 games is an awful idea. I've seen the screenshots of 1080 FF12. God the textures look like shit stretched that much.
Uh, yeah. How about no.
FF12 looks better on my HD set than it did before via either my old PS2 or the PS3 pre-firmware update.
The upscaling doesn't make the textures look bad or anything. Least not from what I'm seeing. Maybe you just saw the image zoomed in or something, I don't know. Zooming would make stuff look like ass, though.
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Khyron got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Found a better comparison, can't edit previous post.http://onkeh.net/pix/oldfirmware.jpg <- MGS3 running on a PS3, 480P, no hardware scaling (With the old PS3 firmware)
http://onkeh.net/pix/fullsmooth.jpg <- Scaled and with smoothing enabled.
EDIT - all images courtesy of the PS3 megathread on SA
I dunno man. I saw one of FF12 and, while the models certainly seemed to look nicer, the textures looked like FF9 running through an emulator at a decent resolution.
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The logic train ran off the tracks when Khyron said:
[QB]http://onkeh.net/pix/oldfirmware.jpg <- MGS3 running on a PS3, 480P, no hardware scaling (With the old PS3 firmware)http://onkeh.net/pix/fullsmooth.jpg <- Scaled and with smoothing enabled./QB]
I'd pay money for that.
Not $600, but still money nonetheless.
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Asha'man attempted to be funny by writing:
Would be worth $600 if I didn't already own a PS2.
I think everyone owns a ps2
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Inferno-Spirit postedI think everyone owns a ps2
I kinda feel like a retard about it, but I don't.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Asha'man painfully thought these words up:
Hardly.
It's a pretty fair guess that someone who is a gamer type might have one given that there are like 115 million of them out there
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ACES! Another post by Azizza:
The up-converting looks better in motion that in still images it seems. I am pleasantly happy with this patch and was able to give my Samsung Up-Convert player to my parents to use. The only game I have tried so far is FF12 but it looks pretty good. Much better than the jagged edges there were before.
Stills are fine. As long as they're screen caps and not Cell Phone cameras.
I'd prefer the jagged edges than seeing 480 textures being brutally punished with 1080 stretching. Skaw fucked around with this message on 05-26-2007 at 02:35 PM.
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Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Skaw who doth quote:
Stills are fine. As long as they're screen caps and not Cell Phone cameras.I'd prefer the jagged edges than seeing 480 textures being brutally punished with 1080 stretching.
The textures aren't being stretched. Upscaling is only done once the scene is already rendered, otherwise it wouldn't really be "upscaling" it'd just be HD with shitty textures.
My guess is what you're seeing is the original textures at a higher resolution, so it's easier to see all the flaws in them.
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The logic train ran off the tracks when Mr. Parcelan said:
It looks like some okay games are coming out, but is there any talk of the PS3's price going down?
Nothing but unsubstantiated rumors
Sony is already bleeding money on each and every purchase. They're probably losing more money than Microsoft does on the 360 per system. If they can cut down their costs then they might be willing to cut the price down but they'll likely leave the consumer price alone for a year or two even if cost slips below $600
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Kegwen had this to say about (_|_):
They're probably losing more money than Microsoft does on the 360 per system.
Microsoft would have to be losing money in the first place to be losing less than Sony. Greenlit fucked around with this message on 05-26-2007 at 10:25 PM.
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Greenlit wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Microsoft would have to be losing money in the first place to be losing less than Sony.
Hey, that's good to know. I must have missed that.
Sony is now the only company losing money on a per console basis, then. Microsoft expects the Xbox division to be out of the red within a year, too. To be fair, though, Microsoft has had a while to drive costs down and the Wii isn't exactly a bleeding edge powerhouse.
The point here is that Sony wouldn't really benefit from lowering consumer cost due to the money they're losing
But don't expect it to affect the PS3s price immediately, until they can recoup a bit of those initial losses back.
