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Topic: The definitive BC thread
Greenlit
posted 01-22-2007 10:21:34 AM
Guys I suck in PVP with my protection spec warrior
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 01-22-2007 12:17:14 PM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Random Insanity Generator wrote:
Between that and Shadowstepping Rogues my Mage doesn't last long in a BG.

I didn't know people were bothering with BGs so soon

They're pretty empty on Maelstrom

Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 01-22-2007 12:46:40 PM
every freaking, cant play PvP cause they dont know tactics, alliance person on my server has rolled a BE and carried on the lack of knowledge. granted im one of the former alliance, but i knew tactics at least!

and.. im not gonna say omg huge nerf, til i see it. all the past nerfs have only made me alter my play style a bit here and there and it was overall easy to adapt.

cause.. ya know, what else am i gonna do, quit. pft, no.

Led
*kaboom*
posted 01-22-2007 12:48:49 PM
I loved all the whispers I recieved telling me I was ugly and to GTFO when I invaded the BE newbie area ;D

Buncha tards.

Led
*kaboom*
posted 01-22-2007 01:36:17 PM
Ding 60, by the way

Been playing off and on since beta, and this is my first 60 ever x_x

Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 01-22-2007 01:38:59 PM
quote:
I suppose the same could be said of all Leds...
I loved all the whispers I recieved telling me I was ugly and to GTFO when I invaded the BE newbie area ;D

Buncha tards.


You're a female TAUREN. They were actually correct on this one!

However, fuck blood elves. Draenei are much more sexy!

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Maradon!
posted 01-22-2007 02:08:26 PM
quote:
x--DensetsuO-('-'Q) :
However, fuck blood elves. Draenei are much more sexy!

Agreed. Hooves for the fucking win.

However I'm a warlock, so I'm probably biased.

Plus I also think female taurens are hot.

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 01-22-2007 02:49:28 PM
quote:
Aw, geez, I have Maradon! all over myself!
Plus I also think female taurens are hot.

I thought I was the only one.

But then again, I am massive fucking pervert, so.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Led
*kaboom*
posted 01-22-2007 02:53:52 PM
quote:
Densetsu had this to say about pies:
You're a female TAUREN. They were actually correct on this one!

However, fuck blood elves. Draenei are much more sexy!


Hey fuck you, I am the sexiest thing over 8' tall there is

Mightion Defensor
posted 01-22-2007 05:05:37 PM
quote:
Led wrote:
Hey fuck you, I am the sexiest thing over 8' tall there is

Work up your faction and get a chocobo! Uh, hawkstrider, I mean.

Led
*kaboom*
posted 01-22-2007 05:28:33 PM
I already talked to the bloodelf mount jerks. They said for me to go away, my graceless bulk would squash their poor chickens or something.

Pfah.

Tonight was my first night doing some serious pvp since level 49. Trying to take over those three towers in outland.

Yeah, right about now I just want to delete all my warriors and quit in disgust, ugh.

Going to take two weeks off.

Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 01-22-2007 07:32:25 PM
quote:
From the book of Blackened, chapter 3, verse 16:
Okay then you really have no ground to bitch about sucking in PvP if you don't want to spec for it

There was no bitching. It was a statement of fact. My mage simply doesn't last long due to Hunters and Rogues nifty 41 point talents.

And Fire mages wouldn't fare much better. Ice mages have a chance with Ice Block.

* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Damnati
Filthy
posted 01-22-2007 07:33:56 PM
quote:
Karnaj had this to say about Captain Planet:
I thought I was the only one.

But then again, I am massive fucking pervert, so.


My title used to be Tauren Enthusiast for a reason. My first 60 was a female tauren warrior and was all sorts of sexy.

Love is hard, harder than steel and thrice as cruel. It is as inexorable as the tides and life and death alike follow in its wake. -Phèdre nó Delaunay, Kushiel's Chosen

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 01-23-2007 12:04:58 AM
quote:
Random Insanity Generator got bored and wrote this:
There was no bitching. It was a statement of fact. My mage simply doesn't last long due to Hunters and Rogues nifty 41 point talents.

And Fire mages wouldn't fare much better. Ice mages have a chance with Ice Block.


Stop fucking talking before I shove a bullet where it belongs. By hand.

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 01-23-2007 12:37:27 AM
quote:
There was much rejoicing when Delphi Aegis said this:
Stop fucking talking before I shove a bullet where it belongs. By hand.

oh wow stand back guys

this man means business

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 01-23-2007 12:40:32 AM
quote:
Mr. Gainsborough thought about the meaning of life:
oh wow stand back guys

this man means business


I'm a tolerant guy, but this woeful ignorance hit me in a poor way, especially considering I've seen both frost and fire mages on BOTH sides in PvP and PvE and know that they own whole shitloads of things.

Willias
Pancake
posted 01-23-2007 12:45:28 AM
quote:
We were all impressed when Mr. Gainsborough wrote:
oh wow stand back guys

this man means business


Delphi,

INTERNET BAD ASS

Willias
Pancake
posted 01-23-2007 12:53:24 AM
And someone tell me how I should play an Enhance shaman in PvP.

I'm doing a pretty good job of getting 5 or 6 kills a game of AB or WSG, along with 15 or more deaths, low healing amounts, and mediocre damage amounts.

I mean, I'm doing okay but I know I could be doing a lot better, since as a paladin I was averaging at least 6k healing a BG (though my damage was about half of what it is now).

Essentially, I run in, drop Earthbind, Magma or Fire Nova, then enter WTF protocol along with any shocks that would see proper use until I generally quickly die.

I'm only level 28 atm, and I'm getting my ass kicked pretty bad. :/ (Note, at this time I don't have a 2h weapon. Don't plan on wasting much time with them, since I'll be using dual wield starting at 40. That, and for right now a shield makes up for my shitty leather armor and allows me to take hits in PvE.)

Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 01-23-2007 01:25:10 AM
2 handed weapon and pray for windfury to proc. Fuck Duel wielding.
(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
Greenlit
posted 01-23-2007 01:25:59 AM
Batty might be able to help you.

But in the 20s bracket, no matter the server, you're gonna get rolled by twinks like it's nobody's business.

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 01-23-2007 01:26:00 AM
quote:
Delphi Aegis wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
I'm a tolerant guy, but this woeful ignorance hit me in a poor way, especially considering I've seen both frost and fire mages on BOTH sides in PvP and PvE and know that they own whole shitloads of things.

DONT COME CLOSE YOUR CRAZY

*run*

Willias
Pancake
posted 01-23-2007 01:34:22 AM
quote:
How.... Greenlit.... uughhhhhh:
Batty might be able to help you.

But in the 20s bracket, no matter the server, you're gonna get rolled by twinks like it's nobody's business.


And paladins. D:

But eh, it's fun when you find an equally geared opponent. After killing twinks non-stop, I generally smash those into a fine powder.

What's scary though is that even though the Blood Elf level 20 paladin weapon is inferior to the Alliance version, BElf paladins still kick more ass than any Alliance paladin I've seen around my level.

Especially when one hits you with Hammer of Justice and you get slammed by 4 Judgements of Command. D:

Batty
Doesn't Like You. Specifically you.
posted 01-23-2007 03:50:08 AM
There's 2 rules for Shaman PvP. You're either Elemental, or you're using a 2hander. Elemental dominates by a long shot. 2handers are the ONLY viable way to get kills as an enhancement Shaman, but you can't even manage that really because you can't windfury yet. Tbh? Stay away from PvP until you can do a solid Elemental build. It's not worth the time and frustration. Shamans do not shine until 30 or 40. 30 for windfury, 40 because you can get a solid elemental build. If you want to talk shop about it sometime feel free to give me an IM at BatutiszK. I know everything there is to know about Shamans and am happy to give advice.

Batty fucked around with this message on 01-23-2007 at 03:50 AM.

Taeldian
Pancake
posted 01-23-2007 08:36:53 AM
quote:
Random Insanity Generator had this to say about Tron:
There was no bitching. It was a statement of fact. My mage simply doesn't last long due to Hunters and Rogues nifty 41 point talents.

And Fire mages wouldn't fare much better. Ice mages have a chance with Ice Block.


As a fire mage, I have yet to find a race/class/spec combo that isn't unbelievably easy to kill. This includes Hunters, Rogues, and Warlocks.

Nether Protection can cause problems, but it's not too difficult to work around as long as I don't dump all my instants on someone before I realize it has procced.

Kennatsu
hu�mor 1. That which is intended to induce laughter or amusement: a writer skilled at crafting humor.
posted 01-23-2007 11:10:55 AM
Any suggestions for a good solo Holy Priest build that helps cover for the BE's lack of strength/stamina? (I think it's Strength and Stamina they're lacking in...)
Blackened
posted 01-23-2007 11:25:00 AM
quote:
Kennatsu.
Any suggestions for a good solo Holy Priest build that helps cover for the BE's lack of strength/stamina? (I think it's Strength and Stamina they're lacking in...)
First of all, don't be so fucking stupid to solo in with the Holy tree. I don't care if you're the "occasional grouper" or "always running instances". There's no need to really even touch Holy (except for the 2 obvious points) until level 55+.

Also, race doesn't matter for shit when it comes to stats. There's hardly a difference between any race. It's something like 2 stat points. You're pretty ignorant if you didn't realize that and were about to spec down holy just to make up for a 10 hp difference. And then solo on top of that.


Although my distaste for you as a human being is brobdingnagian,
what I'm about to do isn't personal.
Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-23-2007 11:42:28 AM
Kennatsu is a moron.
Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 01-23-2007 12:01:53 PM
quote:
When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Kennatsu said:
Any suggestions for a good solo Holy Priest build that helps cover for the BE's lack of strength/stamina? (I think it's Strength and Stamina they're lacking in...)

Yeah, as has been said before... BE's don't "lack" any stats, no more than any other race. At 60 you are looking at a difference of like 3 points max from another race in a stat, at most. Race is about cosmetics and the racial abilities you prefer. And what the hell would you DO with strength as a priest anyways? O_o

Secondly... priest... solo? Good god man shadow. Going holy while solo'ing is just purposefully gimping yourself hardcore :\

Vorago fucked around with this message on 01-23-2007 at 12:03 PM.

Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 01-23-2007 12:33:16 PM
quote:
Taeldian had this to say about Pirotess:
As a fire mage, I have yet to find a race/class/spec combo that isn't unbelievably easy to kill. This includes Hunters, Rogues, and Warlocks.

Nether Protection can cause problems, but it's not too difficult to work around as long as I don't dump all my instants on someone before I realize it has procced.


If you get the drop, you can win as a Fire Mage. Just as I can as an Arcanist. If they see you coming or worse get the drop on you, you're just as boned. You don't have much in the way of "quit hitting me" compared to the extra options that an Ice Mage gets.

An Ice Mage has a better chance to survive if they're attacked. This is the point people seem to have missed. Hell, an Arcanist can drop Epic geared people if he's given the first strike. I've proven that several times.

* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Taeldian
Pancake
posted 01-23-2007 12:47:03 PM
quote:
Random Insanity Generator stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
If you get the drop, you can win as a Fire Mage. Just as I can as an Arcanist. If they see you coming or worse get the drop on you, you're just as boned. You don't have much in the way of "quit hitting me" compared to the extra options that an Ice Mage gets.

An Ice Mage has a better chance to survive if they're attacked. This is the point people seem to have missed. Hell, an Arcanist can drop Epic geared people if he's given the first strike. I've proven that several times.


It all depends on how quickly you can react. Yeah, a frost mage can hit ice barrier/ice block the moment he realizes something is wrong, but you need to remember that Dragon's Breath is also a very powerful defensive ability.

Taeldian fucked around with this message on 01-23-2007 at 12:48 PM.

Greenlit
posted 01-23-2007 01:18:10 PM
I prefer Dragon's Breath to Ice Barrier as both a defensive and offensive weapon.

500~ damage absorb just isn't shit.

Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 01-23-2007 02:03:08 PM
i need a solo fire spec for my mage!! anyone know one? or where to find one. every post ive read says omg frost! but no, i want fire!
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 01-23-2007 02:05:15 PM
quote:
How.... Greenlit.... uughhhhhh:
I prefer Dragon's Breath to Ice Barrier as both a defensive and offensive weapon.

500~ damage absorb just isn't shit.


I giggle a little bit when DB procs ignite and the disorient is gone before it had a real chance to be more useful then a straight interrupt.

Fuckin' fireballs for 1600 base hurt like fuck though.

Greenlit
posted 01-23-2007 02:12:18 PM
quote:
How.... Trent.... uughhhhhh:
i need a solo fire spec for my mage!! anyone know one? or where to find one. every post ive read says omg frost! but no, i want fire!

Give me a level and I'll give you a spec.

Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 01-23-2007 02:39:44 PM
i shall be level 20 today. still a young pyro.
Greenlit
posted 01-23-2007 03:03:47 PM
GET BALLS DEEP UP IN DIS:

Imp Fireball
Imp Fire Blast, Flame Throwing
Pyroblast

Then go for Ignite, maybe. Burning Soul may actually be better than the +crit damage.

Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 01-23-2007 03:13:59 PM
why thank you sir!
Taeldian
Pancake
posted 01-23-2007 03:52:05 PM
quote:
Nobody really understood why Delphi Aegis wrote:
I giggle a little bit when DB procs ignite and the disorient is gone before it had a real chance to be more useful then a straight interrupt.

Fuckin' fireballs for 1600 base hurt like fuck though.


Fire dots don't break dragon's breath.

Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 01-23-2007 04:04:20 PM
Personally I'd spec ice until at least 22 when you can get pyroblast and burning soul.

Before that, fire is a painfully slow grinding spec.

Taeldian
Pancake
posted 01-23-2007 04:07:18 PM
quote:
Blindy. Model 2000 was programmed to say:
Personally I'd spec ice until at least 22 when you can get pyroblast and burning soul.

Before that, fire is a painfully slow grinding spec.


21. You don't need pyroblast for anything other than a req for blast wave.

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