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Mr. Parcelan wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
If Obsidian is the real Bioware2,
Black Isle 2, which is even better. 
I've been looking at the NWN2 site and it looks pretty interesting. My main grievances with NWN1 were that the graphics were way lame even for the time (it was astoundingly hard to get your character distinguished for another) and that the single-player campaign was bafflingly stupid sometimes.
"Yo, go get this rock and bring it back here."
"Okay, here it is."
"Go get this rock now."
"Okay, here it is, but it was way far out and I didn't really have to fight anything to get it. It was just...annoying."
"I didn't say bring this rock to me."
"But-"
"No, bring it and the tail feather of a cockatrice to the wizard on the hill. He's dead, by the way."
"Then I should-"
"AFTER you find his corpse, go find a priest to resurrect him."
Something like that.
If they're incorporating elements of KotoR into it, though, I think this could be a supreme sublime game to play.
Much like the influence system in KotoR2, by performing certain actions and being a charismatic enough character, you'll be able to manipulate your companions' alignment and class choices if you can get them to like you enough.
Edit: That, and the way cinematics are being done are mostly taken from KotoR2. Willias fucked around with this message on 10-08-2006 at 03:22 AM.
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Willias said:
One of the big things being taken from KotoR2 is the influence system
I hope it isn't as badly implemented as it was in KOTOR2. If you made just ONE mistake their influence was ruined FOREVER.
Besides, the thing I enjoyed about KOTOR1 was taking the good guys around with me while doing horrible evil things. It created the funniest dialogues. The whole black slave thing with the coloured Jedi on Korriban had me laughing my ass off.
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Densetsu wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
The only real, tangible improvement I've seen with NWN2 is that your party will be able to have up to 4 members. It's a freakin' huge improvement, though!
Go piss in your own cheerios, I'm getting tired of you pissing in mine.
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Densetsu obviously shouldn't have said:
The only real, tangible improvement I've seen with NWN2 is that your party will be able to have up to 4 members. It's a freakin' huge improvement, though!
Being able to control them all in both combat and leveling up just like in the Infinity Engine games is pretty fucking awsome too though.
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There was much rejoicing when Anakha said this:
lets not forget Minsc, and his miniature giant Space hampster Boo.
wrong game.
It's certainly nothing against NWN. I've played it a bit, plus some other games like it, but they just didn't capture my interest. I don't know why; they seem like good games, I just can't get into them.
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It was not by my hand that I am once again given flesh! I was called here by Willias who wishes to pay me tribute!
3 and yourself
This. I wasn't being sarcastic. For the record, I don't consider NWN to be a multiplayer game unless we are specifically talking about the multiplayer aspect. For you to assume so is folly.
I think it's fantastic that in the single player campaign (I even italicized it for you) you get more than just yourself and a henchman. Let's face it, D&D is not a game where you are supposed to duo, or even solo. It's all about the party. And now you can have a real party.
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The logic train ran off the tracks when Densetsu said:
This. I wasn't being sarcastic. For the record, I don't consider NWN to be a multiplayer game unless we are specifically talking about the multiplayer aspect. For you to assume so is folly.I think it's fantastic that in the single player campaign (I even italicized it for you) you get more than just yourself and a henchman. Let's face it, D&D is not a game where you are supposed to duo, or even solo. It's all about the party. And now you can have a real party.
My apologies then for misunderstanding what you meant. You don't have to act like an ass about it though. 
But yeah, party size for SP Campaign in multiplayer is limited to 4 people (or at least I'm pretty sure on this, tried finding a link but couldn't) and each person can have 1 bodyguard and 3 companions just like they can in single player. Willias fucked around with this message on 10-09-2006 at 05:55 PM.
Something kinda cool posted on the NWN2 forums.
To summarize: The guy who has reviewed NWN2 for PCGamer feels that the game is the best game that Obsidian Entertainment/Black Isle has worked on since Planescape: Torment, and is easily the best D&D game since Baldur's Gate 2.
On the downside, however, he feels that the game's graphics shouldn't require the technical specs that they do, and that the henchman's AI is rather retarded (but you can control em, so it's cool).
Edit: Supposedly, the graphical requirements for this game are higher than Oblivion's. Willias fucked around with this message on 10-21-2006 at 11:37 PM.
I mean, if I was going to go with games that come out around the same time as FFXII and NWN2, I would have listed GH2 on there too, and I don't think there would have been anyway it would have lost to the other games.
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Everyone wondered WTF when Willias wrote:
To summarize: The guy who has reviewed NWN2 for PCGamer feels that the game is the best game that Obsidian Entertainment/Black Isle has worked on since Planescape: Torment, and is easily the best D&D game since Baldur's Gate 2.
So either Planescape isn't D&D or Black Isle didn't work on BG2 
I'm scared because if Planescape: Torment + Baldur's Gate 2 = NWN2 our lives are fucked.
NWN2, on the other hand, is looking real pretty. I'm quite intrigued, even if all they did was update the graphics. I hear they added alot more character options, too...
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There was much rejoicing when Willias said this:Edit: Supposedly, the graphical requirements for this game are higher than Oblivion's.
I will not buy a new PC before next year. I will not. No...
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Tarquinn had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
Goddammit!I will not buy a new PC before next year. I will not. No...
I'm trying hard to resist too
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NWN2 requirements dun dun dun
Recommended:
- 3 GHz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
- 1GB System Ram
- ATI Radeon X800 series, NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series or higher video cardMinimum System Requirements:
- Windows XP
- 512MB System RAM
- 2 GHz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
- 128MB Direct3D compatible video card with DirectX 9.0c compatible driver
- CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive
- 4.6GB free hard disk space
- DirectX 9.0c (included)
- DirectX 8.1 compatible sound card
- Microsoft .NET 2.0 Framework for toolset (included)
- Broadband connection for multiplayer online play
- Keyboard, MouseSupported Video Cards:
- ATI Radeon X1900 series
- ATI Radeon X1800 series
- ATI Radeon X1600 series
- ATI Radeon X1300 series
- ATI Radeon X850 series
- ATI Radeon X800 series
- ATI Radeon X700 series
- ATI Radeon X600 series
- ATI Radeon X300 series
- ATI Radeon 9800 series
- ATI Radeon 9600 series
- ATI Radeon 9500 series
- NVIDIA GeForce 7900 series
- NVIDIA GeForce 7800 series
- NVIDIA GeForce 7600 series
- NVIDIA GeForce 7300 series
- NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series
- NVIDIA GeForce 6600 series
- NVIDIA GeForce 6500 series
- NVIDIA GeForce 6200 series
- NVIDIA GeForce 6100 series
- NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 series
- NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 series
- NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 series
- NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 series
So how do you guys feel?
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ACES! Another post by Willias:
I feel like I'm going to play what looks to be a damn fine D&D game, how about you?
Oh, I'm getting FFXII.
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Nina had this to say about pies:
So how do you guys feel?
Not so bad since I meet all the recommended requirements save for the video card. So I'll have to turn settings down for awhile.
I'm still buying both games most likely.
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Check out the big brain on Nina!
Oh, I'm getting FFXII.
Cool, cool.
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Will people who hated the shit out of the first NWN care for the second?
Could I ask what you hated about the original NWN?
I hated the shit out of the original as well, and as far as I can tell, a lot of the problems I had (graphics, shitty OC) are definately being solved in the second game.
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x--WilliasO-('-'Q) :
Could I ask what you hated about the original NWN?
It was boring, restrictive, and dumb as all hell unless you found a really good DM. 99.9% of them weren't and the remaining 0.01% weren't good enough to justify playing the game.
Oh and the graphics sucked in almost unprecedented ways. "Lacks visual variety" is the phrase that springs to mind.
Also, third-person iso is stupid. Maradon! fucked around with this message on 10-22-2006 at 01:03 PM.
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Maradon! was all like:
It was boring, restrictive, and dumb as all hell unless you found a really good DM. 99.9% of them weren't and the remaining 0.01% weren't good enough to justify playing the game.Oh and the graphics sucked in almost unprecedented ways. "Lacks visual variety" is the phrase that springs to mind.
Also, third-person iso is stupid.
Well, I can't really speak for multiplayer, as I didn't do much of that in NWN. As far as I can remember, I got halfway through the second chapter of NWN's basic campaign, said "Fuck this is boring" and never touched the game again.
However, have you played the Baldur's Gate games or Icewind Dale games? The people who worked on those games didn't have anything to do with NWN1, but have A LOT to do with NWN2, so at least the main campaign isn't going to suck.
And the graphics aren't nearly as bad, though I think it still may be third-person iso. Willias fucked around with this message on 10-22-2006 at 01:11 PM.
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Zephyer Kyuukaze's account was hax0red to write:
Final Fantasy's gone to shit, and it just seems to be getting shittier. I'm not touching XII with a ten-foot pole, and I doubt I'll have anything to do with XIII either.
FFXII isn't really that bad. Whether or not you'll like the game probably depends on whether or not you like the combat system. The graphics/story/VA are pretty good, a lot better than most JRPGs as of late.
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Maradon! stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
Will people who hated the shit out of the first NWN care for the second?
I thought the first one was marred by the horrible campaign, pointless multiplayer, and meh graphics. If it weren't for some good player campaigns, I'd say the first one was pretty damned bad. That said, I'll be playing NWN2 as it looks like the campaign won't suck.
we must slay the dragon
I agree with the "the graphics shouldn't require that much" bit that Desslock said.
Then again, the models *are* pretty well detailed, but it's not like you stay zoomed in on all the characters all the time.
That looks like a Poser demonstration.
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Greenlit had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Hahaha wow.That looks like a Poser demonstration.
Haha. Yeah, the monsters and players don't look like they blend in well with the environment.
To be honest though, I do give Obsidian props for making all of the creatures in the game look like the art from the D&D books.
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Willias said:
To be honest though, I do give Obsidian props for making all of the creatures in the game look like the art from the D&D books.
Though the NWN2 Lich looks like he's just got out of bed. PJ's and all.
If the NWN2 storyline/characters are anything like Baldur's Gate then I'm buying it straight away. BG/BG2 is up there as one of those games that truly made me have an emotional attachment to the characters by the end of it. Epic game.
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There was much rejoicing when Maradon! said this:
I didn't like BG2
Burn the heretic!
Edit: I can kinda understand why one wouldn't like the BG or IWD games, they were very, very tactical, and combat could move kinda slow at times, and at other times could be insanely difficult.
IWD2 is quite a bit better than the Baldur's Gate games for combat though. Willias fucked around with this message on 10-22-2006 at 05:05 PM.
Note that there are apparently some errors in the manual, as it was created before the game was fully complete. But hey, spells, feats, prestiege classes, at least those are all there. Willias fucked around with this message on 10-22-2006 at 07:35 PM.
