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Suddar painfully thought these words up:
Talking point: Fucking ban Blindy, jesus christ, what an amazing cunt.
I would, but I think he's Catholic.
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Sean probably says this to all the girls:
you can make your consoles dance a jig while they serve martinis.
I'd like 2 of the jigging, and one of the martini serving... How much will that cost?
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So quoth Mr. Parcelan:
I would, but I think he's Catholic.
Fine, get him a fucking exorcist then. The Jesuits got time on their hands.
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The Hitchhikers Guide has this to say on Callalron:
Fine, get him a fucking exorcist then. The Jesuits got time on their hands.
I went to a Jesuit highschool. 
PS3 is going to support my binge rhythm gaming and let me play the annual (or one every 5 years I guess thx squeenix) Final Fantasy because Japanese game developers in those fields will not defer from Sony.
X360 is going to give me tanlines and seperate bouncing boobies when I play DOA:XBV.
Also, Kirby Tilt and Tumble was a Game Boy Color game, you faggots. It's been around for ages. Mr. Gainsborough fucked around with this message on 09-05-2006 at 11:25 PM.
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Channeling the spirit of Sherlock Holmes, Blindy. absently fondled Watson and proclaimed:
Actually, it is, because consoles have 5 year lifespans and cease to have cutting edge graphics after about 4 months. That same home theater you use for your consoles would provide better graphics with a PC.
And your contention is that PCs. . .have a greater than 5-year lifespan without requiring upgrade, in which they provide cutting-edge graphics?
That's just dumb.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Verily, Bloodsage doth proclaim:
And your contention is that PCs. . .have a greater than 5-year lifespan without requiring upgrade, in which they provide cutting-edge graphics?That's just dumb.
Not to mention, consoles have cutting edge graphics for longer -- as developers learn how to push the system, games just look incredible. Examples: Resident Evil 4 on the Game Cube, Shadow of the Colossus on the PS2. While my PC has a hard time making games that are a year or two old look their best -- and the PC was cutting edge when I bought it 3 years ago.
See, the big difference is that consoles are static ahrdware -- developers can try to push them to go harder, faster and such. They can take advantage of tricks they learn along the way. With a PC, you have to either go for the lowest common denominator or go for the high-end.
Not to mention, you need to spend at least double to make a decent gaming PC whereas you need to spend 400 for an XBOX 360. Not to mention, you don't have to worry about compatibility issues, driver issues, hard drive space or anything like that. And yes, you can do other things on a PC -- things you can do with a $279 Dell special. In essence, console gaming is cheaper overall for games that are as good as if not better than their PC counterparts.
I'm not saying PCs aren't good for gaming (I wouldn't be looking at dropping 2 grand or more on one soon if I thought that way). They just aren't far and away the superior system that some in this thread make them out to be.
(Yes, I'm agreeing with you sage).
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Man, who wouldn't want to be Bloodsage:
And your contention is that PCs. . .have a greater than 5-year lifespan without requiring upgrade, in which they provide cutting-edge graphics?That's just dumb.
No, my contention is that PCs are possible to upgrade to maintain cutting edge graphics, so you don't have to go 5 years.
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Almond thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
You have a 100' HD tv screen?
projection
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Blindy. had this to say about Tron:
No, my contention is that PCs are possible to upgrade to maintain cutting edge graphics, so you don't have to go 5 years.
Thing is, games for consoles gradually get better looking over the 5 year life span while, to keep PC games looking better with good performance, you need to upgrade. And, to keep up in the past 5 years, you've likely gone through the shift to all AGP video cards, so many new types of ram, new motherboards and other fun things all to stay with the times. With the way technology changes, you have to do so much upgrading if you want to play that new game at the same performance level as the old one.
Just take a look at an early PS2 game. Compare it to a current PS2 game. The graphics are leaps and bounds better, performance is better and all that other happy horseshit. Sure, PCs have likely improved more over that time, but at what cost?
The cost of PC gaming over console gaming is so much higher that many (myself included) would rather game on consoles. The PC for gaming is more of a work machine than anything else. The idea of console gaming is just so much more appealing to me and to others in this thread because all you really need for a decent experience is a TV around $1000 (and you can get away with something cheap if you don't mind buying a tube TV -- phillips makes a 30 inch for 500 bucks), a decent sound system (I got a nice home theater setup for $250 bucks) and the console. Game cost can be written off since you'd have to buy them on the PC (stfu pirates). Even with the purchase of an expensive TV, the cost comes in way under that of a decently outfitted gaming PC (with upgrades over the next 5 years, it gets even crazier. And, as stated before, you can get the utility function of a PC by spending $279 through Dell when they run a special. Falaanla Marr fucked around with this message on 09-06-2006 at 09:15 AM.
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Mr. Gainsborough attempted to be funny by writing:
projection
Nice. Color me green.
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Did someone say Falaanla Marr:
Thing is, games for consoles gradually get better looking over the 5 year life span while, to keep PC games looking better with good performance, you need to upgrade. And, to keep up in the past 5 years, you've likely gone through the shift to all AGP video cards, so many new types of ram, new motherboards and other fun things all to stay with the times. With the way technology changes, you have to do so much upgrading if you want to play that new game at the same performance level as the old one.
Are you telling me that Half Life 2 and Half Life 1 look the same on a Geforce 2? You'd be wrong. You can play Doom 3 on a voodoo 2 if you tweak it enough, and it would look alot better than Quake. PC graphics engines are improving the apearance of graphics, even on aged hardware. Granted you need new hardware to run a new game at max settings, but any good engine (doom engine, unreal engine, half life engine, ect) still runs on old hardware and looks better than games contemporary to the hardware's release.
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Blindy. painfully thought these words up:
Are you telling me that Half Life 2 and Half Life 1 look the same on a Geforce 2?
Um, what the fuck? Where did I say that?
Also, note the releases dates:
HL1 came out October 1998.
HL2 came out November 2004.
Thats over 6 years between the two. Sure, Halflife 2 would run on the GeForce 2, and would look a bit better. But the improvement in HL1 to HL2 on a GeForce 2 is nowhere near the improvement you'd see in a first-gen console title to a last-gen console title.
Now, if you upgraded the PC in that period, you'd see more of an improvement graphically...much like you'd see an improvement in graphics from upgrading from an XBOX to an XBOX 360.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Falaanla Marr's opinion of themself must be pretty good:
Um, what the fuck? Where did I say that?Also, note the releases dates:
HL1 came out October 1998.
HL2 came out November 2004.Thats over 6 years between the two. Sure, Halflife 2 would run on the GeForce 2, and would look a bit better. But the improvement in HL1 to HL2 on a GeForce 2 is nowhere near the improvement you'd see in a first-gen console title to a last-gen console title.
Now, if you upgraded the PC in that period, you'd see more of an improvement graphically...much like you'd see an improvement in graphics from upgrading from an XBOX to an XBOX 360.
I respectfully disagree. 6 years is the gap between a launch title and a last run title for modern consoles, and I think the difference between Half life 1 and half life 2 on the same hardware would be on the same order of magnitude. At this point all either of us have are opinions, i guess we could load up some screen shots and debate them, but it's probibly easier if we just disagree.
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I gotta give it to Bloodsage with:
You'll pay more upgrading a PC to stay cutting edge than you will buying consoles as they come out. I did the math, and that's why I went console for most of my gaming--saves money in the long run.
I'm saying that the PC is the premium immersive experience, while consoles are best religated to playing games you simply can't get on the PC, having the inferior sound and video quality to a new gaming PC after about 6 months on the market.
If what you are interested in is the absolute best visual and audio quality in your gaming experience, you should never pick a console game over the pc version of the same game.
If money is a concern then thats a completely different argument.
I see.
It is, frankly, easier to create a more immersive experience with a console than it is on a PC. And it costs much less over the same given period.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage must read alot of poetry:
Yes. . .because marginally better graphics at 20" backed by soundcard-driven speakers are so much more immersive than wall-spanning HD backed by a full amp-driven surround system.I see.
It is, frankly, easier to create a more immersive experience with a console than it is on a PC. And it costs much less over the same given period.
You can hook a computer up to a home theater. If you can't figure out how, well, to borrow your phrase "Turn in your driver's licence and admit you're a failure at life."
So don't make silly arguments. If you can help it.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Man, who wouldn't want to be Bloodsage:
The video aspect is much, much more difficult, and it also forces one to do one's main computing in one's home theatre.So don't make silly arguments. If you can help it.
Modern video cards can talk to a HDTV over DVI no problem, and only if you've only got one computer.
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How.... Blindy..... uughhhhhh:
Modern video cards can talk to a HDTV over DVI no problem, and only if you've only got one computer.
Nonono, he means that it's a waste to use your home theater system on basic computer operations.
but seriously though, 100"+ porn? awww yeah
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Blindy. had this to say about Captain Planet:
Modern video cards can talk to a HDTV over DVI no problem, and only if you've only got one computer.
So you advocating having two $1000+ pices of equipment instead of having one $1000+ computer and one $4-600 console? I dare you to make less sense.
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Blindy. startled the peaceful upland Gorillas, blurting:
Modern video cards can talk to a HDTV over DVI no problem, and only if you've only got one computer.
Several things:
1. A/V receivers that don't suck and also do DVI switching cost enough that it would negate any $$ gains
2. HDMI is more the home theater wave of the future as far as I can tell at this point
3. You'd still end up buying multiple systems--making this financially stupid--or end up doing your primary computing in your home theater
Bottom line: makes no sense.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Mr. Gainsborough had this to say about Duck Tales:
PS3 is going to support my binge rhythm gaming and let me play the annual (or one every 5 years I guess thx squeenix) Final Fantasy because Japanese game developers in those fields will not defer from Sony.
Skaw fucked around with this message on 09-06-2006 at 12:39 PM.
Rumour has it that Final Fantasy XIII(And the next Dragon Quest) will be released on Xbox360 as well.
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Skaw had this to say about dark elf butts:
Rumour has it that Final Fantasy XIII(And the next Dragon Quest) will be released on Xbox360 as well.
But the PS3 has 6 times the graphic capability of the 360! This will never work! 
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Willias had this to say about John Romero:
Nonono, he means that it's a waste to use your home theater system on basic computer operations.
but seriously though, 100"+ porn? awww yeah
Talk about huge boobs!
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Check out the big brain on Alaan!
But the PS3 has 6 times the graphic capability of the 360! This will never work!
Despite me personally not being able to see a difference between either two.
I guess Square-Enix is fed up with Sony's horseshitting around with the PS3. CONGRATS 500,000 UNITS DIVIDED AMONG JAPAN AND U.S. AT LAUNCH. They'd rather go with a system that doesn't have an 18 month waiting list before a number of people have them to make it worth releasing a game. Skaw fucked around with this message on 09-06-2006 at 01:15 PM.
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Everyone wondered WTF when Anakha wrote:
Talk about huge boobs!
A tit bigger than the man fapping to it. Such a thing blows the mind.
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Quoth Mooj:
A tit bigger than the man fapping to it. Such a thing blows the mind.
It does make the standard porno close-up shots extremely educational.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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I suppose the same could be said of all Skaws...
Rumour has it that Final Fantasy XIII(And the next Dragon Quest) will be released on Xbox360 as well.
Such rumors might as well not exist.
However, if Square-Enix decided to make FFXII and every subsequent FF for the 360 as well, I'd go ahead and buy a 360 and never touch a PS3 because it's the only reason I was going to get a PS3 in the first place. If I have to get a Ps3 for FFXII anyway, then I'll just get the PS3 versions of FFXIII and any other Square-Enix releases.
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Densetsu thought about the meaning of life:
Such rumors might as well not exist.
And why not? Final Fantasy XI was ported over to the 360. What proof is there to say that other games won't be. You're ignoring the fact that Sony is really fucking up with the PS3, from Okaying defective Cell processors, Eliminating Europe from the initial launch, downsizing the amount of initial consoles, to not even starting manufacturing yet. If you think that this won't have any serious problems holding developers, you're pretty optomistic. They're not going to wait around for a year while Sony drums up the number of PS3s in houses, when they can easily just hop over to the all ready established 360 market. Skaw fucked around with this message on 09-06-2006 at 03:56 PM.
Believe me, i would LOVE it for FFXIII to be released on the 360, because then I wouldn't have to touch a PS3. At first I got my numbers mixed up and forgot that FFXII is for PS2.
Unfortunately, rumors involving Square generally end up being the wishful thinking that they began as.
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A thousand monkeys at a thousand typewriters couldn't ever match Naimah:
So you advocating having two $1000+ pices of equipment instead of having one $1000+ computer and one $4-600 console? I dare you to make less sense.
How about a $1000 computer and a $400 computer for internet browsing and office stuff?
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I bet you never expected Bloodsage to say:
Several things:1. A/V receivers that don't suck and also do DVI switching cost enough that it would negate any $$ gains
Since you're most likely using HDMI for your other AV stuff, leaving the DVI port open for your computer, why would you run the video though your reciever? Just send the sound there.
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2. HDMI is more the home theater wave of the future as far as I can tell at this point
Yet offers absolutely advantage over DVI for video and coax or optical for sound but having one less cable to deal with. But if you look hard enough, some of the bleeding edge cards out now have HDMI ports.
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3. You'd still end up buying multiple systems--making this financially stupid--or end up doing your primary computing in your home theaterBottom line: makes no sense.
Most people already have one computer which is perfectly fine for surfing the internet and office work. It's about as stupid as buying an xbox 360 when you've already got an xbox.
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Alaan says ta-ma-to, I say to-ma-to:
The computer being forced into the living room is still a big hit. I mean, who wants a desk for their computer in there? Not to mention PC gaming is not bad for couches. So now you are limited in wear that desk can go.
If you've got a bluetooth or otherwise wireless keyboard with an optical mouse you can use the armrest of your sofa as the mouse pad and keep the keyboard on your lap- works great.
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Quoth Blindy.:
If you've got a bluetooth or otherwise wireless keyboard with an optical mouse you can use the armrest of your sofa as the mouse pad and keep the keyboard on your lap- works great.
You're making some pretty fuckin' huge mental stretches to justify your bizarre assertions, dude.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage's fortune cookie read:
You're making some pretty fuckin' huge mental stretches to justify your bizarre assertions, dude.
Not really, the majority of the guys I LANed with in HS, and myself included, always had our keyboards in our laps, even if we had enough room on our desk. It's really comfortable, if you have a chair that leans back. Kick your feet up on the tower under your desk, and you're all set.
Even so, it feels much more natural for me to have my keyboard in my lap than on a desk, or god forbid a keyboard tray. I hate keyboard trays, with a passion. I always jam my knees on them.
