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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael's fortune cookie read:
jumped 50 cents from 2.69 last night to 3.19 today.
We just had another 20 cent jump down here. How is it holding up there Deth? 3:39 is way to much for gas.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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So quoth Azizza:
We just had another 20 cent jump down here. How is it holding up there Deth? 3:39 is way to much for gas.
3.19 on the way home from class tonight.
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Skaw had this to say about Duck Tales:
You guys are complaining about $3~/gallon? Bottled Water costs more than that.
Oh you got that email too?
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Kermitov stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
Oh you got that email too?
What E-mail? Gas has always been cheaper than bottled water. I thought it was common knowledge.
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Experts: $4 a gallon gas coming soonNEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Consumers can expect retail gas prices to rise to $4 a gallon soon, but whether they stay there depends on the long-term damage to oil facilities from Hurricane Katrina, oil and gas analysts said Wednesday.
"There's no question gas will hit $4 a gallon," Ben Brockwell, director of pricing at the Oil Price Information Service, said. "The question is how high will it go and how long will it last?"
OPIS tracks wholesale and retail oil prices and provides pricing information for AAA's daily reports on fuel prices.
Brockwell said with gasoline prices now exceeding $3 a gallon before even reaching the wholesale level, it "doesn't take a genius" to expect retail prices to hit $4 a gallon soon.
"Consumers haven't seen the worst of it yet," Brockwell said.
He expects consumers in the Southeast and Northeast to be pinched first, following the impact of Hurricane Katrina on the Gulf Coast region.
Katrina pressures gas suppliesKatrina forced operators to close more than a tenth of the country's refining capacity and a quarter of its oil production, which sent gasoline prices surging.
Two major pipelines that supply gasoline to key terminals and distribution centers within the eastern U.S. were shut down due to power outages caused by the storm. (Video of Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman discussing U.S. plans to tap strategic oil reserve to help refiners -- 4:16. Click here to watch.)
Colonial Pipeline said it hopes to be back in partial operation soon, while the date of Plantation Pipeline's restart is not clear. Each day the pipelines are closed, supplies get backlogged and distribution centers must rely on reserves.
"With this kind of hiccup in refinery capacity, in stretched markets like California, you could see over $4 a gallon in gas," Evan Smith, an analyst at U.S. Global Investors, told CNN/Money.
While it's still too early to fully assess the damage caused by Katrina, efforts to build up inventories of crude oil, natural gas and other products like gasoline will be set back by the storm, according to Nariman Behravesh, chief economist at Global Insight.
In a research note, Behravesh laid out a worst-case scenario that puts average prices for regular unleaded gasoline at about $3.50 a gallon for the next four to six months.
"The impact on consumer spending in such a scenario would be very dramatic, cutting the growth rate by as much as 3 percent and pushing real GDP growth in the fourth quarter closer to zero," he wrote.
In a best-case scenario, he forecast retail pump prices to peak at $3 a gallon for a couple of months, but then fall back to around $2.50 by year-end.
The nationwide average price for a gallon of regular unleaded hit a fresh high of $2.619 Wednesday, according to AAA, the largest U.S. motorist organization, formerly known as the American Automobile Association.
Average gasoline prices have gained 40 percent in the last year.
Prices for crude oil are also up sharply and are currently hovering near record highs just under $70 a barrel.
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Peanut butter ass Shaq Kaglaaz How'ler booooze lime pole over bench lick:
Considering calling the Attourney General to complain of price fixing/gouging on a part of the refinery / trucking companies. Sickening...
Yeah, god forbid an industry raise prices when supply is threatened and demand is increased! That's PRICE GOUGING! The solution is clearly to sue someone and pass a new tax.
Maybe once you're done with your call you could get on the line with your senator and complain about the environmentalist lobbying groups that blocked drilling in ANWAR and any expansion of our domestic oil industry.
You know, since that's actually the cause of the trouble and not some textbook anti-corporate nutball conspiracy theory.
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Skaw was naked while typing this:
You guys are complaining about $3~/gallon? Bottled Water costs more than that.
do you buy up to 15 gallons of bottle water to fill your fridge?
quote:Bottled water is $0.69/gallon at Wal-Mart. That includes the distilled stuff as well as the spring water.
When they turned on the Infinite Improbability Drive, Skaw stammered,
You guys are complaining about $3~/gallon? Bottled Water costs more than that.
quote:We* only put one in the fridge at a time, and keep the others stacked in the garage. We stockpile up to 30 bottles of distilled water at once, and buy around once per month. (Every Wal-mart in our area sells out their entire supply of distilled water for the week within 4-8 hours of putting it on the shelves. No, we're not solely responsible for that. They put out around 150-300 bottles in a shot, depending on the store, once per week.)
Ninety-nine bottles of KaLourin on the wall, ninety-nine bottles of KaLourin...
do you buy up to 15 gallons of bottle water to fill your fridge?
*My parents. Before I moved out, I helped with the buying process.
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Skaw had this to say about Duck Tales:
You guys are complaining about $3~/gallon? Bottled Water costs more than that.
This is a joke, right? I go to Albertson's and buy the 3 gallon dispensers of spring water for about $2.50. I buy two of them, and 6 gallons of water lasts me a hell of a lot longer than 6 gallons of gasoline does.
Anyway.. I think UBT paid $2.69 at the arco by our house last night, but most of the other places are at $2.89.
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UBT had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Yesterday on the radio there was a guy calling in from a gas station in Mobile where the price was $4.99 a gallon, and halfway through them talking to him the price was changed to $5.38 a gallon.
The Georgia Gov. put in an emergency law that has capped the price of Gasoline. I am not sure what the amount of the Cap is though. Azizza fucked around with this message on 09-01-2005 at 02:56 PM.
Nahh.. no price gouge bandwagoning going on here!
I'll get the exact quote tomorrow, left the paper at work.
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KaLourin had this to say about Knight Rider:
Price gouging hotlines are already going into effect in most states. Article in the paper this morning had one guy (who represents some independant fuel regulation agency) commenting on how "The fuel you're charging $3.00+ a gallon now, did you just get that shipment in? No.. it was delivered 3-4 weeks ago"
This.. coming from a guy who's supposed to stand up for these companies.Nahh.. no price gouge bandwagoning going on here!
I'll get the exact quote tomorrow, left the paper at work.
Next time you drive my a Hess station look at it's price. Last I Knew of, they really didn't get much out of the Gulf (Most comes from the North Sea I Think), and their refineries are in Bayone and like the USVI, and they really are an East coast company Most of their market is really NY, NJ and PA.
quote:I passed one on the way home. $3 for regular, $3.20 for premium.
Ninety-nine bottles of Peter on the wall, ninety-nine bottles of Peter...
Next time you drive my a Hess station look at it's price. Last I Knew of, they really didn't get much out of the Gulf (Most comes from the North Sea I Think), and their refineries are in Bayone and like the USVI, and they really are an East coast company Most of their market is really NY, NJ and PA.
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Peter stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
Next time you drive my a Hess station look at it's price.
Great, now I have the Hess Truck song stuck in my head. Bastard.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Nae's account was hax0red to write:
hay maybe we can figure out a way to hax the car to take water instead of gas!Anyway.. I think UBT paid $2.69 at the arco by our house last night, but most of the other places are at $2.89.
Would be so worth trading the Pruis in for a hydrocar... only if there was more then like.. ~4 hydro filling stations in the country.. 
They want us to use a different resource, yet when one that doesn't involve gas comes up, they make it insanly hard to use by making the filling station sparce or making the car cost more then a house..
Though I will say this about the Prius... right now, where all those people with Humvees and SUVs are spending 60+ for a full tank every week... we're still paying ~25 every other week for a full tank. We'd use gasahol... but the only station that sells it that I know of is in Tacoma. I've yet to see one in Kirkland.
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Trillee's account was hax0red to write:
Would be so worth trading the Pruis in for a hydrocar... only if there was more then like.. ~4 hydro filling stations in the country..
They want us to use a different resource, yet when one that doesn't involve gas comes up, they make it insanly hard to use by making the filling station sparce or making the car cost more then a house..
Though I will say this about the Prius... right now, where all those people with Humvees and SUVs are spending 60+ for a full tank every week... we're still paying ~25 every other week for a full tank. We'd use gasahol... but the only station that sells it that I know of is in Tacoma. I've yet to see one in Kirkland.
Yeah, that's the crux of the whole alternative fuel thing. People do not buy cars with it, because there are almost no stations where to refuel them, and no stations are build, because no one buys the cars. Tarquinn fucked around with this message on 09-02-2005 at 07:26 AM.
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Maradon!'s account was hax0red to write:
Yeah, god forbid an industry raise prices when supply is threatened and demand is increased! That's PRICE GOUGING! The solution is clearly to sue someone and pass a new tax.Maybe once you're done with your call you could get on the line with your senator and complain about the environmentalist lobbying groups that blocked drilling in ANWAR and any expansion of our domestic oil industry.
You know, since that's actually the cause of the trouble and not some textbook anti-corporate nutball conspiracy theory.
First of all Maradon, I didn't make this as a flame thread. You seem to forget that I happen to see eye to eye with you a lot more than most everyone else here. Also a bit of frustration is coming out as I used to work from home, and now it's costing much more to go to work and I'm making $6 less an hour than I was before I got laid off.
There are already laws in place to keep prices from being raised beyond a certain percentage of the prices actually being paid wholesale for the product. This is a minor case. Because our gas is produced right here in town we've always paid a slightly inflated price due to trucking companies trying to recoup the difference making the price per mile more expensive than longer trips. Across the bridge in Duluth MN the state taxes on gas are 10 cents cheaper. Therefore you could gauge the price by way of the fact that it was only 2.99 a gal in Duluth. While it's just a mere 20 to 25 cent gouge it is still setting prices beyond the stated laws, albiet there was a correction within very short amount of time.
Over the past 2 decades there have been complaints about price fixing around here because we historically would pay considerably more for gas in the city producing it than most of the surrounding communities. When the prices were 1.59 prices would range from 1.35 to 1.49 a gallon most everywhere else around the region. Any investigations made personally by both the MN and WI Attorney General's were met with (rumor)greased palms(/rumor) and a quick answer 2 days later from the AG's that "there's no evidence of price fixing."
As for ANWAR believe me, I'm just as pissed as anyone else. I've already sent the e-mails about it to the dimwits in the House and Senate. I happen to be pretty active with taking the initiative around here. Some of our local representatives in the state government make Ted "OMFG A BRIDGE!!" Kennedy look like a Moderate! I"m all for finding other sources of energy and oil. Technology and engineering has advanced quite enough to not impact the environment at all IMO. I still think more could be done in the line of natural sources of fuel like BioDiesel and Ethanol. I have family in farming so believe me I see most all facets beyound just Corperate vs. Environmentalists.
As for anti-corperate? Hardly, the fuckjobs in both Duluth, MN and Superior, WI have had chance after chance to get some major companies in the area. The Duluth/Superior area was one of the top 3 finalists to possibly get the Saturn plant when it was a new and exciting idea. Boeing had been looking to put in a plant here as well at the Duluth International Airport (DLH for you pilots) recently after the success of Cirrus Design as a personal aircraft manufacturer. In both cases I've applauded and done whatever I could to convince local politicians to give in to the fanatical tree-huggers we seem to have in the area, which when combined with almost Hoffa-era like unions in the area, make getting anything done impossible. Each time, the local politicians as well as inept Senators and US Representatives (Wellstone, Jim Oberstar in MN)(David Obey, Herb Kohl in WI) dropped the ball because they didn't want to upset the ultra liberals we have up here. Drag out a Red/Blue map of this past presidential election and the election 4 years ago and you'll see this area is consistantly blue and I hate it. There's bumper stickers around here that make me shudder. They say WWWD "What Would Wellstone Do?" similar to the WWJD bracelets you used to see some church going folks wearing years back. The guy is dead!! WTFY!!!
(Parcelan perhaps change the thread icon to either Political or Flame if folks are going to start getting nasty, thanks)
edit: heh..I remember around two years ago when it was like $0.99 a gallon for regular at some places. Jennifer fucked around with this message on 09-02-2005 at 04:34 PM.
My brother-in-law reports that even the prices on the Indian resevations were over three dollars a gallon.
My opinion is that the price for for gas has risen too far too quickly for it to be anything but price gouging.
Sweet.
Mind you, this still puts it at about 20-30 cents above its pre-Katrina level. Snugglits fucked around with this message on 09-02-2005 at 05:35 PM.
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Check out the big brain on Tarquinn!
Yeah, that's the crux of the whole alternative fuel thing. People do not buy cars with it, because there are almost no stations where to refuel them, and no stations are build, because no one buys the cars.
Pretty much. And GE (I believe) is constently advertising in some commercial or another how they have the hydrocars for sale at emplyee discount prices until this promotion ends.
Well.. great! That's nice. You'll still have to take out a second mortgage to pay for it, and where the heck are people going to fill them once they're bought?
I think really they should start placing the proper fueling stations at atleast the established gas stations... Just to make getting the cars abit more plausible. Then when there are more and more hydrocars out there.. stations just for them can open. I mean, that's asking for to much apparently, but just something to make using the alternative verhicles out there worth it. Trillee fucked around with this message on 09-02-2005 at 06:44 PM.
SLO gas has hovered ~$3.00 the last few days.
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Peter's fortune cookie read:
Next time you drive my a Hess station look at it's price. Last I Knew of, they really didn't get much out of the Gulf (Most comes from the North Sea I Think), and their refineries are in Bayone and like the USVI, and they really are an East coast company Most of their market is really NY, NJ and PA.
no dice. They're right on the train with everyone else.. Hess station here in Sayreville is at 3.19 along with everyone else. some of the less "reputable" places have regular at 3.41, and im pretty sure another one is changing its prices multiple times a day still
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Quoth Alidane:
Just curious, anyone know about the prices of that Ethahol or whatever the fuck they call it? CORN GAS. I remember seeing it in Iowa when I drove through last summer, and it was a bit cheaper than regular gas then.SLO gas has hovered ~$3.00 the last few days.
Having lived in Nebraska for six years, where ethanol is required to be added to gas, it's exactly the same price. Not sure what the pure stuff goes for, but you can't find cars that run on it anyway.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage had this to say about Robocop:
Having lived in Nebraska for six years, where ethanol is required to be added to gas, it's exactly the same price. Not sure what the pure stuff goes for, but you can't find cars that run on it anyway.
IL also requires ethanol in gas. And we are one of the highest spots in the country still. Woo!
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This one time, at KaLourin camp:
no dice. They're right on the train with everyone else.. Hess station here in Sayreville is at 3.19 along with everyone else. some of the less "reputable" places have regular at 3.41, and im pretty sure another one is changing its prices multiple times a day still
Most in my area have been doing it all day long, plus I have heard places closeing down. The Fact that Hess gas is so High Just galls me Knowing that they are not affected to adversly by the storm for Fuel.
