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Zaza had this to say about Knight Rider:
Uh, no. Ever heard of Argumentum ad nauseum? What the majority believes is completely irrelevant. Unless you can back it with some facts, there is no reason to take your argument seriously and certainly no reason to legislate based on it.Or maybe we should legislate based on religion too since that's all about mass-belief?
Argumentum ad numerum
Edit: Or populum, depending on what you're trying to say! Jens fucked around with this message on 03-02-2005 at 03:28 PM.
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Jens's account was hax0red to write:
Argumentum ad numerumEdit: Or populum, depending on what you're trying to say!
Nauseum is the fallacy that an argument repeated over and over again would somehow have more credit to it.
The other two apply as well, though.
I just beleive that most people (I am not saying everyone) cannot be trusted to be able to keep it moderate. I have heard (Not from any scientific/reputable source, mind you, but just through word of mouth... I'll see if I can't find some more reputable sources when I get home) that the THC in Marijuana is about as addictive as the nicotene in cigarettes, and I work side-by-side with so many people who can't control their nicotene habit... god knows what'd happen to them if they got their hands on a regular supply of weed.
If there is anything I am wholly against, it is cigarettes. I don't think there is any redeeming value to them. But I try not to argue that vehemently around here because I have friends here who smoke cigarettes, so...
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Khyron had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
FYI : I don't beleive that Marijuana is evil when taken in moderation.I just beleive that most people (I am not saying everyone) cannot be trusted to be able to keep it moderate. I have heard (Not from any scientific/reputable source, mind you, but just through word of mouth... I'll see if I can't find some more reputable sources when I get home) that the THC in Marijuana is about as addictive as the nicotene in cigarettes, and I work side-by-side with so many people who can't control their nicotene habit... god knows what'd happen to them if they got their hands on a regular supply of weed.
If there is anything I am wholly against, it is cigarettes. I don't think there is any redeeming value to them. But I try not to argue that vehemently around here because I have friends here who smoke cigarettes, so...
As a frequent hash (even more THC!) and cigarette smoker I can say that it takes some serious tolerance to gobble up the same amount of THC as nicotine, because after two blunts you'll feel pretty stoned most of the time and I'll have to stop. On the other hand, I can chain smoke cigs like there's no tomorrow if it suits me.
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From the book of Jens, chapter 3, verse 16:
As a frequent hash (even more THC!) and cigarette smoker I can say that it takes some serious tolerance to gobble up the same amount of THC as nicotine, because after two blunts you'll feel pretty stoned most of the time and I'll have to stop. On the other hand, I can chain smoke cigs like there's no tomorrow if it suits me.
That's pretty much my opinion as well. As a smoker of both, nicotine is much more addictive.
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Iulius Czar had this to say about pies:
Institute of Medicine paper (1999) assessing marijuana for medical use. There aren't any cutesy FACTOID! boxes but it's probably as close to an unbiased treatment of the subject as you will find. Take a look at chapter 3 in particular.
Skimmed it through. The dependancy numbers are especially interesting and supports that pot is way less addictive than Tobacco (1:5 users rather than almost 1:2) - though "used" doesn't differentiate from "tried once" and "smoked multiple times a week" so you have to adjust some for that.
The medical effects were interesting, and I most certainly do not dispute that they exist - but I find nothing in this study that supports that Marijuana would be terribly much worse for your health (and definitely not for the health of other people and society) than tobacco smoking.
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We were all impressed when Caid '5 Fists' Berrit wrote:
That's pretty much my opinion as well. As a smoker of both, nicotine is much more addictive.
I guess THC might be more addictive on a milligram for milligram basis, but in reality you can't consume 1/10th of THC that you can of nicotine
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Addy had this to say about Knight Rider:
Poor innocent me.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
It's not something people hear about.
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Sean got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Stop laughing, god dammit
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There was much rejoicing when Addy said this:
Stop laughing, god dammit :~( :~( :~(
You used the Lord's name in vain. You're going to hell, again. >:(
Kael fucked around with this message on 03-02-2005 at 04:05 PM.
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Liam had this to say about the Spice Girls:
I wonder what it'd be like if something like caffeine were illegal.
<smacks Liam up side the head> Don't even joke about that!!!!!
Kael fucked around with this message on 03-02-2005 at 04:23 PM.
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Kael thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Good thing Caffeine is prefectly ok.
It should be illegal, though.
It's habit forming. It increases the risk of heart attack.
Need I say more?
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I wonder what it'd be like if something like caffeine were illegal.
I dont drink any.. So fine with me!
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Gadani had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
It should be illegal, though.It's habit forming. It increases the risk of heart attack.
Need I say more?
<double-smacks Gadani on the head> Quiet you!
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Check out the big brain on Gadani!
It should be illegal, though.It's habit forming. It increases the risk of heart attack.
Need I say more?
If you're taking in more then 600 milligrams a day maybe.
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Khyron had this to say about Optimus Prime:
FYI : I don't beleive that Marijuana is evil when taken in moderation.I just beleive that most people (I am not saying everyone) cannot be trusted to be able to keep it moderate. I have heard (Not from any scientific/reputable source, mind you, but just through word of mouth... I'll see if I can't find some more reputable sources when I get home) that the THC in Marijuana is about as addictive as the nicotene in cigarettes, and I work side-by-side with so many people who can't control their nicotene habit... god knows what'd happen to them if they got their hands on a regular supply of weed.
If there is anything I am wholly against, it is cigarettes. I don't think there is any redeeming value to them. But I try not to argue that vehemently around here because I have friends here who smoke cigarettes, so...
Physical addiction is on the low end of issues with marijuana, usually. Even extremely addictive substances like heroin do not cause addiction in all people who use them.
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Katrinity had this to say about Optimus Prime:
<smacks Liam up side the head> Don't even joke about that!!!!!
The only reason we keep it is because it's "productive". Too much/dependence creates a destructive pattern, though.
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Kael had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
If you're taking in more then 600 milligrams a day maybe.
How much is in one can of coke?
edit: clarification: Coca-Cola Classic Gadani fucked around with this message on 03-02-2005 at 04:42 PM.
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How.... Gadani.... uughhhhhh:
How much is in one can of coke?
Look at a can of Coke?
It's not something people hear about.
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Sean got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Look at a can of Coke?
I did. It doesn't tell me anything about how much caffeine is in it.
Coke is nasty anyways, it can dissolve a penny in a week. Kael fucked around with this message on 03-02-2005 at 04:46 PM.
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Caffeine amounts in popular soft drinks per 12 oz cans:SOFT DRINK/CAFFEINE LEVEL (mgs)
Mountain Dew/55.0 (no caffeine in Canada)*
Diet Mountain Dew/55.0
Coca-Cola/45.6
Diet-Cola/45.6
7 Up/0
* ?WHAET¿ Sean fucked around with this message on 03-02-2005 at 04:46 PM.
It's not something people hear about.
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Everyone wondered WTF when Kael wrote:
Average Cola is about 45 milligrams (12oz), whereas a cup of drip coffee is about 235 milligrams (8oz).Coke is nasty anyways, it can dissolve a penny in a week.
Anyway, I drink a can of coke or three per day.
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Kael probably says this to all the girls:
I think I heard somewhere that 352 cans of Dew would kill you due to the caffeine. Don't quote me on it.
Were you someone else before you were Kael?
It's not something people hear about.
Cup of coffee is 80mg.
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Sean got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Were you someone else before you were Kael?
A samurai.
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Kael wrote this in the snow with their pee:
I think I heard somewhere that 352 cans of Dew would kill you due to the caffeine. Don't quote me on it.
apparently not in canada.
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We were all impressed when Sean wrote:
Were you someone else before you were Kael?
Tordeck in '01, changed to Torlendor when the name change option came about (late '02, I think), changed to Kael while playing FFXI with the EC crew in late '03.
My EC name has always reflected my main character in whatever MMORPG at the time. But I was mainly a lurker back in my EQ days.
It's not something people hear about.
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Sean wrote this stupid crap:
I see.
And look out, Addy has the hots for samurai.
Hawt knights. Not samurai.
GET IT RIGHT.
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Sean had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
I see.
And look out, Addy has the hots for samurai.
If by hots you mean, avoid or pester at all times, you are correct sir
One time I was shopping at the AH, and she WOULDN'T STOP POKING ME D:<<<<
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Kael said:
If by hots you mean, avoid or pester at all times, you are correct sirOne time I was shopping at the AH, and she WOULDN'T STOP POKING ME D:<<<<
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Addy was naked while typing this:
pokepokepokepokepokepokepokepokepokepokepoke
You can't bully me around any more! D:<<<<<
If I can solo a Tonberry, can I solo some uppity monk! Kael fucked around with this message on 03-02-2005 at 05:10 PM.
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Kael thought about the meaning of life:
You can't bully me around any more! D:<<<<<If I can solo a Tonberry, can I solo some uppity monk!
All of my techniques looked so nice in Japanese, even the JP players were impressed.