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LeMiere
posted 03-31-2004 01:00:09 AM
quote:
KaLourin had this to say about (_|_):
but yer an f'n hot heathen

Heretics and heathens like myself -must- be hot to form cults that are succesful.

Zair
The Imp
posted 03-31-2004 01:08:06 AM
The truer quote from Dogma is the one about Catholics mourning their religion instead of celebrating it.

[ 03-31-2004: Message edited by: Zair ]

Skaw
posted 03-31-2004 01:17:20 AM
Catholicism WOW!
Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 03-31-2004 01:31:36 AM
Apparently I can't post even in humor without offending someone, so I apologise Parce. However, that does not pardon Maho for idiocy above and beyond the call of duty in the name of religion.

How about I go with something a lot more specific?

Maho? Eat shit and die.

That better, Parce?

[ 03-31-2004: Message edited by: Mooj ]

Mr. Parcelan
posted 03-31-2004 01:36:19 AM
Cool, thanks

I was just pissed that he already said he was Christian and you were still blaming the Catholics.

Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 03-31-2004 01:52:15 AM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Cool, thanks

I was just pissed that he already said he was Christian and you were still blaming the Catholics.


But dude... Catholics are asshole.

And so is everyone else. Bastards, the whole lot of ya.

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Steven Steve
posted 03-31-2004 01:55:54 AM
LeMiere has rock hard rectus abdomini and abdominal obliques
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Synjari
Warrior Princess
Cookie Seraphim!
posted 03-31-2004 02:15:15 AM
Parce.. dear.. You go around insulting others in a bad way about so many things.. The minute someone quotes a line from Dogma.. you get offended?

Pardon me hon.. but Im a bit confused. Not to mention I dont think Ive really ever seen Mooj out for popularity.. *shrug* he is just himself.

Catholic or Christian.. its all the same.. you have people who are believers and followers of a faith.. and people who take it to extremes. I dont believe for one moment that Mooj was blaming Catholics for everything.. but holy hell.. Catholicism has their own breed of turbo Christians (TM Led) just like any religion has their own breed of those jerks who dare tell others how to live their lives instead of taking care of their own shit.

Yes Dogma was satirical in terms of Catholicism.. but hell it went beyond just that.. its only that Catholicism has a very old and very set in stone structure.. it was the 1st established church of christ.. Ill end it here.. cause honestly its not really Catholic faith vs other Christian faiths.. moreso its a matter of a retarded kid who thinks his knowledge is worldly enough to tell others how to be.

"Villiany wears many masks, none of which are more dangerous than virtue." - "Sleepy Hollow"
Mr. Parcelan
posted 03-31-2004 02:16:53 AM
Did you like it when Razor said all Mexicans worked at Taco Bell?
Synjari
Warrior Princess
Cookie Seraphim!
posted 03-31-2004 02:18:47 AM
Quite frankly I dont care *laugh* Ive been the brunt of worse discrimination than that of a kid on a messageboard.
"Villiany wears many masks, none of which are more dangerous than virtue." - "Sleepy Hollow"
Mr. Parcelan
posted 03-31-2004 02:20:01 AM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Synjari:
Quite frankly I dont care *laugh* Ive been the brunt of worse discrimination than that of a kid on a messageboard.

What if KaL told you to go scrub a toilet?

What if Callalron told you to go mow a lawn?

What if Nae asked you how hard it was to jump the border?

Do you think you'd care if your friends started doing it?

Synjari
Warrior Princess
Cookie Seraphim!
posted 03-31-2004 02:22:05 AM
Parce.. dude you need to chill.. period.. youre too high strung.

No Id not take offense to it.. because they say it jokingly.. just like Mooj quoted a movie.. tell me this, did Mooj direct that quote at you or the kid?

Huge difference there, kiddo.

"Villiany wears many masks, none of which are more dangerous than virtue." - "Sleepy Hollow"
Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 03-31-2004 02:25:07 AM
Nah, I can see how he'd take it wrong. I PMed him to apologise, and he told me why he was offended. It's cool, really.
Mr. Parcelan
posted 03-31-2004 02:25:41 AM
quote:
Synjari had this to say about pies:
Parce.. dude you need to chill.. period.. youre too high strung.

No Id not take offense to it.. because they say it jokingly.. just like Mooj quoted a movie.. tell me this, did Mooj direct that quote at you or the kid?

Huge difference there, kiddo.


Don't try to patronize me, swine, and don't play the name-calling card unless you're looking to pick a fight.

How am I supposed to know if it's a joke? It's a thread...about hating bible-thumpers...full of atheists...

Tell you what, slappy, why don't you walk into a Klan meeting and see what happens? Let's see if you're too high-strung when you're hung from a dead tree.

Hostile Makeover
Evil as chocolate covered thistles
posted 03-31-2004 02:32:04 AM
*looks for the instructions on how to defuse this bomb*
Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 03-31-2004 02:33:11 AM
What in the fuck....

It was a damn movie quote and now it's spiraled down into talking of people hanging from trees?

Synjari
Warrior Princess
Cookie Seraphim!
posted 03-31-2004 02:33:45 AM
*smirk* Offense at being called kiddo? how old are you and how old am I? Huge difference between us, Parce. You take offense at everything and go in with pistols rearing.. I don't.

Either you're drunk (of that we can never be sure these days) or you've undergone a huge personality change from when we 1st met. I think its cute that you call me swine.. You use words like that often.

Parce.. I'm hispanic. You think I don't know anything about discrimination? You think I dont know anything about Catholicism? *laugh* You've a long way to go, hon.. however I feel you're already well down a path that is, in the end, going to alienate you from quite a few people who actually do care about you.

You need to put a check on your anger.. I think your drinking habits only seem to enhance that anger issue you have.

"Villiany wears many masks, none of which are more dangerous than virtue." - "Sleepy Hollow"
Mr. Parcelan
posted 03-31-2004 02:36:47 AM
Forget it. This will be my final word on the subject.

Ask Gydyon or OtakuPenguin. On this board, religion is looked upon as "believing in myths" and choosing to abandon common sense for what people will paint as blind faith. Religion here is discredited, attempted to be debunked and insulted routinely.

The unfortunate scandal in our church only served to strengthen the claims and mockery.

Have we ever insulted your choice to shrug off ideas of religion? Have we ever insulted anything you chose to adopt as a personal part of your life?

We choose to have faith. You choose not to respect that choice. That pisses me off. Gydyon is too polite to say anything. OtakuPenguin is too soft-hearted. I have no such qualms.

So yeah, call me high-strung about someone insulting something I consider to be as much a part of me as my race or personality. I have every reason and right to be.

Mr. Parcelan
posted 03-31-2004 02:39:15 AM
quote:
Synjari's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
*smirk* Offense at being called kiddo? how old are you and how old am I? Huge difference between us, Parce. You take offense at everything and go in with pistols rearing.. I don't.

Either you're drunk (of that we can never be sure these days) or you've undergone a huge personality change from when we 1st met. I think its cute that you call me swine.. You use words like that often.

Parce.. I'm hispanic. You think I don't know anything about discrimination? You think I dont know anything about Catholicism? *laugh* You've a long way to go, hon.. however I feel you're already well down a path that is, in the end, going to alienate you from quite a few people who actually do care about you.

You need to put a check on your anger.. I think your drinking habits only seem to enhance that anger issue you have.


No, I'm not drunk, and I find it mildly insulting that you choose to use that as ammunition. Very low. Very you.

I shouldn't be surprised, however. You use the same ammo you always do. Always falling back on the: "You weren't like this when you played EQ!" line. No doubt somehow meant to shame me into yielding to you.

Maybe it's you that's changed, my friend. You never used to be so eager to get in fights. I was always a brawler. And if a side effect of it is that I step up to defend myself instead of making snide little comments like a stuck-up twat, so be it.

Synjari
Warrior Princess
Cookie Seraphim!
posted 03-31-2004 02:53:10 AM
Actually no.. you weren't like this even when you started posting here, Parce. Plain and simple.. I'm not the only one who has noticed the change.
"Villiany wears many masks, none of which are more dangerous than virtue." - "Sleepy Hollow"
Mr. Parcelan
posted 03-31-2004 02:54:28 AM
quote:
Synjari had this to say about John Romero:
Actually no.. you weren't like this even when you started posting here, Parce. Plain and simple.. I'm not the only one who has noticed the change.

But you are the only one who's low enough to accuse me of alcoholism to attempt to weasel victory out of an argument.

And you didn't do that when I knew you, my friend.

Furthermore, if you want to start bringing others into this, start naming names instead of just playing coy. Let those who think I've changed step up and I'll see if their opinion is worth anything to me.

[ 03-31-2004: Message edited by: Mr. Parcelan ]

Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 03-31-2004 02:55:17 AM
Other beliefs are often mocked.

Someone says Pagen, or Wiccan or even a vocal athiest.

Saying gods instead of god.

And.. I'm sure people could run around and proclaim those aren't religions etc etc, yet they are beliefs that were and are mocked.

No, I'm not digging up links. No I'm not going to continue to argue or debate.

I just needed to point it out, that others are indeed mocked.

Mr. Parcelan
posted 03-31-2004 02:56:39 AM
quote:
Trent's fortune cookie read:
Other beliefs are often mocked.

Someone says Pagen, or Wiccan or even a vocal athiest.

Saying gods instead of god.

And.. I'm sure people could run around and proclaim those aren't religions etc etc, yet they are beliefs that were and are mocked.

No, I'm not digging up links. No I'm not going to continue to argue or debate.

I just needed to point it out, that others are indeed mocked.


That is true, indeed. I apologize for such a thing.

Once again, I am forced to eat my words.

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 03-31-2004 02:58:35 AM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Knight Rider:
Furthermore, if you want to start bringing others into this, start naming names instead of just playing coy. Let those who think I've changed step up and I'll see if their opinion is worth anything to me.

I don't know if you've changed, but a reaction like this strikes me as somewhat out of character for you. A reaction, I wouldn't be suprised by. But this one was far beyond what I would have expected from you.

Edit: the post above wasn't there when I started typing. But I'll leave it with this footnote rather than ninja editing it on you.

[ 03-31-2004: Message edited by: Palador ChibiDragon ]

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Synjari
Warrior Princess
Cookie Seraphim!
posted 03-31-2004 02:59:02 AM
I didnt accuse you of alcoholism.. merely suggested that it could be a factor as to .. enhancing.. some of the posts. Face it Parce.. and Im not accusing you of this.. but we've all seen people who aren't very nice at all when they imbibe alcohol..

If its not a factor.. then fine its not a factor. But the issue still remains that you've gotten a hella lot meaner than you used to be. Yes I changed.. I used to jump in ALOT on fights.. I do it alot less and I have calmed down alot more in comparison to how I used to be.. (My temper has mellowed quite a bit, you can ask anyone who knows me on a more personal basis) just as I dont really scan messageboards as much as I used to. I admit I've changed, can you? *shrug*

"Villiany wears many masks, none of which are more dangerous than virtue." - "Sleepy Hollow"
Mr. Parcelan
posted 03-31-2004 02:59:38 AM
quote:
Palador ChibiDragon had this to say about Punky Brewster:
I don't know if you've changed, but a reaction like this strikes me as somewhat out of character for you. A reaction, I wouldn't be suprised by. But this one was far beyond what I would have expected from you.

Is it wrong to have values? Values that come under attack most every day from people that you considered friends?

It causes a reaction, friend. Desperate measures and all that.

Mr. Parcelan
posted 03-31-2004 03:02:52 AM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Synjari:
I didnt accuse you of alcoholism.. merely suggested that it could be a factor as to .. enhancing.. some of the posts. Face it Parce.. and Im not accusing you of this.. but we've all seen people who aren't very nice at all when they imbibe alcohol..

If its not a factor.. then fine its not a factor. But the issue still remains that you've gotten a hella lot meaner than you used to be. Yes I changed.. I used to jump in ALOT on fights.. I do it alot less and I have calmed down alot more in comparison to how I used to be.. (My temper has mellowed quite a bit, you can ask anyone who knows me on a more personal basis) just as I dont really scan messageboards as much as I used to. I admit I've changed, can you? *shrug*


You admit to being more peaceful and I'm supposed to admit to being meaner?

No. No, in fact, I'll piggyback off of you. Not since tonight have I flamed lately. Even against Somthor, my campaign was given up early. Since then, I've been quieter, more amiable.

Many people, some better than you, have played the "you've changed" card. I am happy with who I am. Do not expect me to change to fit you. You don't have the willpower or prowess to make me.

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 03-31-2004 03:05:38 AM
quote:
Verily, Mr. Parcelan doth proclaim:
Is it wrong to have values? Values that come under attack most every day from people that you considered friends?

It causes a reaction, friend. Desperate measures and all that.


Reactions are good. But this was more bitter and vicious than I would have ever expcted from what I've seen of you on the boards. As if it was a RL issue that has been pissing you off, and then it suddenly spilled out onto the boards because of that post.

Maybe I'm wrong, heavens knows that I'm not an expert at dealing with people. But still, the level of your reaction was a suprise.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Synjari
Warrior Princess
Cookie Seraphim!
posted 03-31-2004 03:12:55 AM
Who said I wanted to change you? I merely want to bring it to your attention.. if you want names.. then PM me. Im not about to drag someone's name in public without their permission.

I don't care if you've gotten the 'youve changed' thing from people better or worse than me. I just felt a need to express it so that its out there in the open. Believe me after this I won't use that expression again since you loathe it so much.

Yah I noticed that you quieted down.. but as many things are.. I expect it to be part of a cycle. I in no way condemn you for speaking out against someone who you feel has wronged your faith.. however its the manner in which you do it that not only leaves me going wtf but apperantly others saw the same thing. Dude, I of all people understand people and their faiths. Right now Im dealing with a father who used to drink, smoke.. go out after work to have drinks while the wife was at home.. never went to church with us as kids until the very end when the eldest three of us were getting confirmed. Then he "found God" which I respect him for that and Im glad he found a faith that makes him more at peace with himself.. however he tends to shove it down people's throats from time to time.

I'll bet he'd call me a heathen if I told him my own beliefs. So I know what its like on both sides of the christian spectrum, dear. If someone is to insult you about religion.. it makes you no better than them when you do it back in such a harsh way. This is why I spoke up. Hell fine you got insulted.. no need to chew him out. I know Gyd and others go through the same thing with Christianity in general because they are believers and follow what they follow.. live their lives as best as they can.. be the best people as they can.. no one is perfect.. not me.. not you. But dude.. do you really think that youre any better than someone when you just get downright mean? Esp. concerning religion.. *shakes her head* Thats what gets me.. people lashing out and not really even stopping to think.. is this a Christian act? Yes Catholics are christian.. they believe in Christ.. so it pertains to catholics.

You can lash out at me all you want, it doesn't really phase me. Call me a dirty mexican.. tell me to go back to mexico.. tell me Im a heathen.. call me a swine. Doesn't matter to me.. I am just tryin to explain to you why I see that difference in you. I'm not saying Ive completely changed for the better. But at least I am more at peace with myself than I have been in years.. I just hope the same for you.

"Villiany wears many masks, none of which are more dangerous than virtue." - "Sleepy Hollow"
Mr. Parcelan
posted 03-31-2004 03:13:31 AM
quote:
How.... Palador ChibiDragon.... uughhhhhh:
Reactions are good. But this was more bitter and vicious than I would have ever expcted from what I've seen of you on the boards. As if it was a RL issue that has been pissing you off, and then it suddenly spilled out onto the boards because of that post.

Maybe I'm wrong, heavens knows that I'm not an expert at dealing with people. But still, the level of your reaction was a suprise.


So be it. It's an important aspect to me.

I apologize to people for being slightly touchy about it and flying off the handle. Suffering the same sort of stigma from many in real life, as well, it struck me particularly close. Granted, Wiccans and what not probably suffer the same sort of stigma, but I guarantee not as regularly or publicly. Nevertheless, I cannot hold myself to one standard and preach another.

All I can offer is an apology.

I do not apologize to Synjari, who has stepped out of the discussion to personally discredit me as a person.

Synjari
Warrior Princess
Cookie Seraphim!
posted 03-31-2004 03:20:47 AM
I dont care nor ask for your apology. I only stepped in because of the response I saw.
"Villiany wears many masks, none of which are more dangerous than virtue." - "Sleepy Hollow"
Mr. Parcelan
posted 03-31-2004 03:22:28 AM
quote:
Synjari stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
I dont care nor ask for your apology. I only stepped in because of the response I saw.

You can lie to yourself all you want. You were eager for a fight and you found it.

Peace comes easily when you make up your morals as you go along, no?

Synjari
Warrior Princess
Cookie Seraphim!
posted 03-31-2004 03:28:28 AM
Again.. you're insulting my morals just as you dont like your morals being insulted. I find that a bit funny. But I will end it here. You can have the last word if you'd like, Parce.
"Villiany wears many masks, none of which are more dangerous than virtue." - "Sleepy Hollow"
Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 03-31-2004 03:29:46 AM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
So be it. It's an important aspect to me.

I apologize to people for being slightly touchy about it and flying off the handle. Suffering the same sort of stigma from many in real life, as well, it struck me particularly close. Granted, Wiccans and what not probably suffer the same sort of stigma, but I guarantee not as regularly or publicly. Nevertheless, I cannot hold myself to one standard and preach another.

All I can offer is an apology.


It's cool. I only spoke up because you asked for the names of others that saw something "off" in all that. You and Mooj appear to have settled things between yourselves, so it's all good for me.

Also, I know I can be a bit nasty about religion myself sometimes, though in the anti-religion direction (especally anti-Christian and anti-Catholic). I'm a bit bitter about some old issues there. If you ever feel that I'm going too far in a thread, all you (or Gydyon, or OP, or pretty much anyone) have to do is tell me so, and I'll back off.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Mr. Parcelan
posted 03-31-2004 03:30:22 AM
Fuhgeddaboutit.

Tal is a queer.

[ 03-31-2004: Message edited by: Mr. Parcelan ]

 
can you please fix my title
posted 03-31-2004 08:25:48 AM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Mr. Parcelan!
You admit to being more peaceful and I'm supposed to admit to being meaner?

No. No, in fact, I'll piggyback off of you. Not since tonight have I flamed lately. Even against Somthor, my campaign was given up early. Since then, I've been quieter, more amiable.

Many people, some better than you, have played the "you've changed" card. I am happy with who I am. Do not expect me to change to fit you. You don't have the willpower or prowess to make me.


but parcelan you HAVE changed, you are all green now.

Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 03-31-2004 08:59:01 AM
nm

[ 03-31-2004: Message edited by: KaLourin ]

Dont make me slap you so hard your bucket spins around, and around,and stops sideways,thus confusing you, and making you run about London wearing your bucket, a g-string, and carrying a stick,smacking the ground while yelling "MAGICALLY DELICIOUS! MAGICALLY FUCKING DELICIOUS!"- {Tal} to Mortious
Hebrew 9:3- 'And the Lord said unto me, "Dude, there isn't a K in covenant."' - Snoota

This beer drops trou and fucks your mouth with pure hoppy goodness. - Karnaj
Taylen
Pancake
posted 03-31-2004 09:33:06 AM
No, all the hispanics work at KFC, the black people work at taco bell. Well around here anyway, when I used to work at taco bell I felt like the token white boy.
"When correctly viewed, everything is lewd." - Tom Lehrer.
Sadomasochism: It's Fun!
Taylen Ashenbow
Rangers never run we mearly stratigically retreat.
Thats not a train thats a pull, my trains are always much bigger.
Star Collective
Pancake
posted 03-31-2004 11:24:11 AM
What they really ought to do is replace "Marriage" in the law books with "Civil Union". Then everyone is equal. You can still have marriage as a religious institution, but now people have no real excuse to fight over it.

Parcelan, I never would have guessed you were Catholic. Is this a recent thing or are you taking the other posters for a ride?

On a completely unrelated note: Taylen, that should be spelled "merely" in your sig, not mearly. (OHO i r grammrz whoer!)

The trouble is that we have a bad habit, encouraged by pedants and sophisticates, of considering happiness as something rather stupid. Only pain is intellectual, only evil interesting. This is the treason of the artist: a refusal to admit the banality of evil and the terrible boredom of pain. - Ursula K. LeGuin ~ The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas
Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 03-31-2004 12:59:50 PM
You know what makes me laugh the most about this thread?

Mr "It's a joke because I said it's a joke and you should know that" Mr "You should have a thicker skin", Mr "Nothing is sacred and I'll be an ass to you whenever I want to because I am PARCELAN"....is getting offended over something and actually sniping at people over it.

Comedy gold!


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

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