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Zair
The Imp
posted 01-21-2004 05:08:47 PM
quote:
Bloodsage had this to say about Pirotess:
But did you see the way they gang-raped him when he said exactly the same thing on their board?

Leads me, for one, to believe he was other than a member in good standing of the board even. Hell, they named their equivalent of Flameball after him.

And he's too stupid to take a hint. . .and comes over here to spread his particular social poison.


Yeah, I was just pointing out to all the people who took such relish in telling him that he was never in the guild that he never claimed to be.

 
can you please fix my title
posted 01-21-2004 05:10:39 PM
quote:
Alucard wrote, obviously thinking too hard:

I'm so turned on right now.

Edit: Taken from one of Somthor's ex-guilds.


ahh Ordo Malleus they loved me I loved them it was sad when that group disbanded. I assure you the person who that quote was directed at was in way offended.

reminds me I should call her, its been months since we last spoke.

Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 01-21-2004 05:10:51 PM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Somthor:
you are inncorrect there are well over a hundred mebers of that guild and other people who subscribe to the message board what you saw was a small number of people incomparison to the actual total being vocal about it.

some are people who also never were in the guild or long since stopped playing EQ if you dig deap enough you will find that at the very least I was tolerated since I have been a member since June 8, 2001 and havnt been banned yet.

no bones about it though I screwed up over there, although I could post a poll asking about myself and it would come out alot better than it would here.


Yeah, you're so loved that only one single soul made one single post in your support, while the vocal majority--you know, the active members of the community--considered you a complete waste of gravity and named their crap gallery after you.

Yeah, it's all politics.

Dude, I hate to break it to you, but all of human interaction is politics. That's what the fucking word means! And you'll always end up on the wrong end of it, because your insufferable arrogance encourages the little voices in your head to blame it on others because everyone who isn't vocal obviously supports you.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

 
can you please fix my title
posted 01-21-2004 05:15:20 PM
quote:
Gikk said this about your mom:
[QB]That's funny.

[16:47] <Gikk> He says he was an upstanding member of your guild at one time.
[16:47] <Gikk> Is that true?
[16:48] <Kilyin_> no
[16:48] <Nayah> no
[16:48] <Nayah> sorry
[16:48] <Kringe|Work> fgt kilyin sup
[16:48] <neckros> he was a recruit. he has a lot of time on his hands and has an unusual taste for posting.... he's harmless really. but rubbs some people the wrong way.

From thier IRC room.


I'd appreciate it gikk if you would go back and mention that I never said i was a member of the guild, I was talking about the messageboard.

also tell neckros and kringe i said hello please.
incedently neckros is a good person to talk to if you wnat to know about me, he will tell you whatever you care to know.

Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Death of Rats
Pancake
posted 01-21-2004 05:18:37 PM
I don't know why, but I typed Somthor into google, and got these jewels.

You decide on this. I'm just speechless.

Apperently he likes rhymes.

A particularly crafty sea lion is befuddling the Army Corps of Engineers, who have come to believe the 1,000-pound mammal is either from hell -- or from Harvard.
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 01-21-2004 05:18:44 PM
quote:
Somthor enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
I'd appreciate it gikk if you would go back and mention that I never said i was a member of the guild, I was talking about the messageboard.

also tell neckros and kringe i said hello please.
incedently neckros is a good person to talk to if you wnat to know about me, he will tell you whatever you care to know.


The cure, perhaps?

Does the bullet have to be silver?

Is a stake of any kind required?

Must we dispose of the remains at a crossroads?

Is it contagious?

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 01-21-2004 05:19:19 PM
quote:
Verily, Somthor doth proclaim:
I'd appreciate it gikk if you would go back and mention that I never said i was a member of the guild, I was talking about the messageboard.

also tell neckros and kringe i said hello please.
incedently neckros is a good person to talk to if you wnat to know about me, he will tell you whatever you care to know.


Let's see here...

You claim to be in good standing. We have seen you called annoying, stupid, dense, basically dozens of insults. The NICEST things we have ever seen anyone on any of the boards you frequent call you is "harmless".

Any bells ringing yet? No? Oh well.

Nae
Fun with Chocolate
posted 01-21-2004 05:19:28 PM
quote:
Zair's account was hax0red to write:
Yeah, I was just pointing out to all the people who took such relish in telling him that he was never in the guild that he never claimed to be.

He claimed to be a member of their board. Even the real members of the guild said that he isn't a member of jack or shit, guild or boards. They said he has no reason to post there. Yet he paid to support those boards just like he did here.

Why?

Because he thinks that it gives him a magic cloak of protection. Well, it seems that they are quite happy to suck money off him and keep him confined to his own forum. That way everyone can laugh at what a moron he is.

Abbikat
Tastes best with pudding
posted 01-21-2004 05:25:57 PM
quote:
This one time, at Rebel Nae camp:
Well, it seems that they are quite happy to suck money off him and keep him confined to his own forum. That way everyone can laugh at what a moron he is.

And yet he is too stupid to realise he is basically paying them for the priveledge of abusing the shit out of him (much like he is doing here too)..


Man, the dumb fucker sure has more money than brains..

of course, if he had only a single penny to his name that would still hold true....




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can you please fix my title
posted 01-21-2004 05:27:08 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Death of Rats wrote:
I don't know why, but I typed Somthor into google, and got these jewels.

You decide on this. I'm just speechless.

Apperently he likes rhymes.



happier times gnome warrior and all.

Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Zair
The Imp
posted 01-21-2004 05:33:12 PM
quote:
Rebel Nae impressed everyone with:
He claimed to be a member of their board. Even the real members of the guild said that he isn't a member of jack or shit, guild or boards. They said he has no reason to post there. Yet he paid to support those boards just like he did here.

Why?

Because he thinks that it gives him a magic cloak of protection. Well, it seems that they are quite happy to suck money off him and keep him confined to his own forum. That way everyone can laugh at what a moron he is.


Well, he is a member of their boards technically.
Thats all I was originally trying to say.

I didn't post to take sides either way.

Sean
posted 01-21-2004 06:01:03 PM
I've been a member here since March 6th, 2001, and I haven't been banned yet.

Being ignored and grudgingly tolerated for three years does not make you accepted, Somthor.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Gydyon
Yes, I am a lawyer. No you can't sue them for that. Shut up, or I'll have your legs broken.
posted 01-21-2004 06:03:39 PM
quote:
Sean had this to say about Captain Planet:
I've been a member here since March 6th, 2001, and I haven't been banned yet.

Being ignored and grudgingly tolerated for three years does not make you accepted, Somthor.


After all, we all ignore and grudgingly tolerate Se....

Oh, never mind.....

Gydyon
Evercrest Lawyer

Thinking about your posts
(and billing you for it) since 2001

Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 01-21-2004 06:03:39 PM
quote:
Sean, I am your father:
Being ignored and grudgingly tolerated for three years does not make you accepted, Somthor.
You would know! Ahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa-

*sigh*



Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Gydyon
Yes, I am a lawyer. No you can't sue them for that. Shut up, or I'll have your legs broken.
posted 01-21-2004 06:06:03 PM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Black:
You would know! Ahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa-

*sigh*


I bring the funny faster.

Gydyon
Evercrest Lawyer

Thinking about your posts
(and billing you for it) since 2001

Sean
posted 01-21-2004 06:06:12 PM
..I set myself up for that one good.

Two points to Gydyon and Blackmage each.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 01-21-2004 06:07:20 PM
quote:
Because, Gydyon... You are a puppet.
I bring the funny faster.
I bring your wife to an orgasm faster.



Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Abbikat
Tastes best with pudding
posted 01-21-2004 06:15:34 PM
quote:
How.... Black.... uughhhhhh:
I bring your wife to an orgasm faster.


your mom!




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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-21-2004 09:58:30 PM
I'd like to clarify a point about my last post...I wasn't attacking you, Blindy. I was calling Somthor a clueless moron for firing off inflammatory comments about things he couldn't possibly know anything about; namely your level of employment/job satisfaction, and Bloodsage's.

We already know that Somthor likes to make low, uncouth blows, but the fact is that if you have a job that pays you what you'd like to make for a reasonable expectation of work, then anyone taking a shot at you for it, especially without knowing any better, is obviously trolling (something else we know Somthor to do). It's like Snoota and his job at McDonald's; everyone cracked the usual fast food job jokes because they thought it was witty or funny or clever, but it wasn't. Snoota had/has a good position. Most people around here can't say the same thing. And most people who take shots are either sitting on their laurels, recounting victories of the past (which is what Somthor likes to do...he likes to wave the flag that he was in the military and he's had so many jobs and works in a day care center or whatever the hell his job this week is, and that makes him the best person to cast stones at others, blah blah blah), or they're concealing what they do for a job. Parcelan worked at a book store for a while, and a bar after that. Good, solid jobs for someone his age. A bar wouldn't be my choice, but hey...it's not my choice to make.

I guess the job thing just bugs me, especially when inbred, unintelligent, arrogant, slack-jawed, self-aggrandizing graduates of the University of "Some Guy Told Me" with PhD's in "I found it on the web" and "Sounds Good To Me" is the one taking the shots.

I'd only worry about my job if someone who manually masturbates cows for artificial insemination purposes told me "dude...I'd rather be doing this than your job". And even then, maybe not.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
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Taeldian
Pancake
posted 01-21-2004 10:02:24 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
works in a day care center or whatever the hell his job this week is

Those poor children...

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-21-2004 10:09:26 PM
Yes now that I completely wussed out on FlameWarrior, I'm going to go crawl in a hole and pray no one rolls a cannister of napalm down it
Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
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Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 01-21-2004 11:02:08 PM
Well!

Certainly an interesting thread. Only going to speak on one part of it, though. More and more, in my current job search, especially as I work in the CS area, I am seeing the demand for bilingual agents, and they will NOT take an employee if they do not speak both English and Spanish.

I find this disturbing. I am aware that the US has no official language, but the common consensus is, yes, we speak English for the most part. Having there be such an influx of illegal immigration both South and even here in Indiana to require that we constantly have bilingual requirements on something as basic as a customer service job is in my eyes, frankly wrong. I don't know Spanish. Not out of laziness, but I took three years of French in high school. I resent the fact that despite having 5 years of extensive customer service experience, I can't get a job in my own country because I don't speak the language of another one, and it's because of others too lazy to learn the language before they come here.

So I guess you could say I would be against something like that was proposed. At least if it didn't require them to speak the language of the country they want to work in.

Oh, and another gem. I was at the license branch with Deth getting his Indiana license and the man in front of us, who was obviously of some manner of Latino or Mexican origin, was arranging to have his test *read* to him. I'm a little scared there's someone out there they're giving a license to who won't even be able to read the street signs, because he didn't both learning our language, and we're actually catering to that by reading him his driver's test. That's a little too far in my eyes.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Abbikat
Tastes best with pudding
posted 01-21-2004 11:07:23 PM
quote:
Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about John Romero:
Oh, and another gem. I was at the license branch with Deth getting his Indiana license and the man in front of us, who was obviously of some manner of Latino or Mexican origin, was arranging to have his test *read* to him. I'm a little scared there's someone out there they're giving a license to who won't even be able to read the street signs, because he didn't both learning our language, and we're actually catering to that by reading him his driver's test. That's a little too far in my eyes.

They do that here too Lyinar.. Only they dont read the licence test out in the other language.. they have special copies printed in 32 different languages depending on what you speak...

All the street signs, however, are in English only...




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posted 01-21-2004 11:14:53 PM
quote:
Lyinar Ka`Bael thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
[QB]Well!

Certainly an interesting thread. Only going to speak on one part of it, though. More and more, in my current job search, especially as I work in the CS area, I am seeing the demand for bilingual agents, and they will NOT take an employee if they do not speak both English and Spanish.

Having there be such an influx of illegal immigration both South and even here in Indiana to require that we constantly have bilingual requirements on something as basic as a customer service job is in my eyes, frankly wrong. I took three years of French in high school. I resent the fact that despite having 5 years of extensive customer service experience, I can't get a job in my own country because I don't speak the language of another one.



I know what you are talking about. they say Bilingual prefered you are bilingual but then they Discriminate against you becuse its not spanish. I had the same problems except I knew ASL.

they will hire a person who is a slob and no job history no education not even a GED over a college grad in order to have a spanish interpertur. THOSE PEOPLE need to provide thier own translators, we as a nation shouldnt have to bend over backwords to accomdate them AND we shouldnt be discriminated against for not speaking THEIR lingo.

in the past immigrents were forced to learn english if thye wanted to succeed these days we are too weepy and PC to make them MELD into OUR culture. this is how you end up with sects in a nation.

imagine if all the Irish and germans and swedes ..chinese from the 1800's had done this.

Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-21-2004 11:15:34 PM
Road signs, okay. Name (however you may pronounce it), color, shape, etc. Okay. Cool.

What about situations with special directions? If you can't speak the language enough to read a test that barely literate native speakers can understand, how well will you do following signs with special directions?

I don't mind folks coming and working in the U.S., and I don't resent them forming up in their own little communities. Geography tells me that that happens in a melting pot society is that clumps of one racial, ethnic, or national origin group will clump together and as they assimilate they take on the traits of the greater whole and some of their traits are absorbed into the greater body. But in the past, that model assumed that if you came from someplace else, the language you get things done in here is English. That's shifting, and there's no infrastructure to help support it.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
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Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 01-21-2004 11:16:10 PM
quote:
Nobody really understood why Abbikat wrote:
They do that here too Lyinar.. Only they dont read the licence test out in the other language.. they have special copies printed in 32 different languages depending on what you speak...

All the street signs, however, are in English only...


They were offering to read the test to this man who could barely even speak English, let alone read it, I'm sure.

I'm not prejudiced by any means, but there have been a lot of accidents here lately involving those of Latino or Mexican descent who had licenses and they really really shouldn't have. And they never had insurance in many of these cases, either, making it even more of a problem for the other people in question, who were usually English-speaking drivers native to the state.

I just think if people are going to live here, drive here, and work here, they need to know the language.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

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can you please fix my title
posted 01-21-2004 11:20:14 PM
quote:
Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about the Spice Girls:
They were offering to read the test to this man who could barely even speak English, let alone read it, I'm sure.

I'm not prejudiced by any means, but there have been a lot of accidents here lately involving those of Latino or Mexican descent who had licenses and they really really shouldn't have. And they never had insurance in many of these cases, either, making it even more of a problem for the other people in question, who were usually English-speaking drivers native to the state.

I just think if people are going to live here, drive here, and work here, they need to know the language.



they dont need insurance they can jsut skip the border if they get in trouble. worst thats going to happen is deportation until they sneak back in under an assumed name.

Shame is it gives a bad name to all the hard working law abiding persons of thier ethnic back ground who have bettered themselves.

Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Zair
The Imp
posted 01-21-2004 11:20:58 PM
quote:
Lyinar Ka`Bael painfully thought these words up:

Oh, and another gem. I was at the license branch with Deth getting his Indiana license and the man in front of us, who was obviously of some manner of Latino or Mexican origin, was arranging to have his test *read* to him. I'm a little scared there's someone out there they're giving a license to who won't even be able to read the street signs, because he didn't both learning our language, and we're actually catering to that by reading him his driver's test. That's a little too far in my eyes.


When I was at the DMV getting a drivers permit, I saw something perhaps more disturbing. I took the multiple choice test, and as I was turning it in I saw an old man at the desk turning his in. The women told him he didnt have enough of the answers filled in in the section where you match signs and what they mean. He said that was because he didn't know some of them. She said she wouldn't be able to pass him if he turns it in like that, then she sat there and started giving him hints on the ones he couldn't get.

At least with the guy you mentioned, he can still identify most signs by shape and color. And also, he might be able to read the simple words on street signs, but needs help for the written multiple choice questions about what to do around a bus, ettc.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-21-2004 11:22:34 PM
That's why a lot of insurance companies are pushing for laws to change so that the elderly have to take DL tests more often after a certain age. But in retirement states (like Florida) you'll never see it. Too many codgers.
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can you please fix my title
posted 01-21-2004 11:27:45 PM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael:
That's why a lot of insurance companies are pushing for laws to change so that the elderly have to take DL tests more often after a certain age. But in retirement states (like Florida) you'll never see it. Too many codgers.

always thought they should tie it to reciveing SS payments. that way its not really tie to age and thus isnt realy discrimatory.

you recive retirement benifits? then you have to take a drivers test everyother year with vision testing.

the scary thing is that as a senior driver you can becuse of your usualy safe driving record go as long as 16 years without a test. even if you make a error and do a trafic infraction most cops will give you a break becuse who wants to be mean to grandma or grampa.

Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 01-21-2004 11:30:17 PM
quote:
Somthor had this to say about Cuba:
they dont need insurance they can jsut skip the border if they get in trouble. worst thats going to happen is deportation until they sneak back in under an assumed name.

Shame is it gives a bad name to all the hard working law abiding persons of thier ethnic back ground who have bettered themselves.


Because everyone Spanish-only person is a damn border hopping beaner, right?

Fucking brilliant. Really fucking brilliant!

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 01-21-2004 11:38:46 PM
quote:
Vorbis had this to say about the Spice Girls:
Because everyone Spanish-only person is a damn border hopping beaner, right?

Fucking brilliant. Really fucking brilliant!


Yep! The entire spanish community here in Pennyslvania are border hopping fuckwads that don't do anything but provide a drain on our society!

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 01-21-2004 11:43:22 PM
quote:
Somthor had this to say about Tron:
they dont need insurance they can jsut skip the border if they get in trouble. worst thats going to happen is deportation until they sneak back in under an assumed name.

Shame is it gives a bad name to all the hard working law abiding persons of thier ethnic back ground who have bettered themselves.


It's not a matter of skipping the boarder, but it is a problem when there's no recourse for the person who was hit by them. They have no insurance company they can go through to get the money to fix or replace their car with. And in most cases they'd have to shell out money for court costs and it was iffy if they would even recover anything that way.

So because someone had a license that shouldn't, and because we're making exceptions about how to get a license, another legal driver who was responsible has to pay the price. That's just not right to me.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Zeke
I am a vampire and
posted 01-22-2004 04:12:44 AM
quote:
other than that only a few die hard pricks were rabid against my poems and the like.

JESUS FUCK NO! OK I think despite what anyone says, our brains are at the least more fortunate than the people on the other board Somthor's on that gets Somthor poetry.

"Death most resembles a prophet who is without honor in his own land or a poet who is a stranger among his people."
"Cowards die many times before their deaths;
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Hime, eien-ni, anata-wo ai-shimasu.
Mod
Pancake
posted 01-22-2004 04:43:28 AM
quote:
From the book of Lyinar Ka`Bael, chapter 3, verse 16:
Well!

Certainly an interesting thread. Only going to speak on one part of it, though. More and more, in my current job search, especially as I work in the CS area, I am seeing the demand for bilingual agents, and they will NOT take an employee if they do not speak both English and Spanish.

I find this disturbing. I am aware that the US has no official language, but the common consensus is, yes, we speak English for the most part. Having there be such an influx of illegal immigration both South and even here in Indiana to require that we constantly have bilingual requirements on something as basic as a customer service job is in my eyes, frankly wrong. I don't know Spanish. Not out of laziness, but I took three years of French in high school. I resent the fact that despite having 5 years of extensive customer service experience, I can't get a job in my own country because I don't speak the language of another one, and it's because of others too lazy to learn the language before they come here.

So I guess you could say I would be against something like that was proposed. At least if it didn't require them to speak the language of the country they want to work in.


You mean like everyone in the world who wants to work IT has to learn English at least semi-fluently?

Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Vernaltemptress
Withered and Alone
posted 01-22-2004 05:15:58 AM
The demand for bi-lingual employees is a marketing issue. In order to get more dollars, a company must hire employees who speak a customer's language. Else, the customer will do business with a competitor. Hence, why you are seeing this requirement. In California, my nephew is required to learn Spanish in public elementary school because of the influx of children who are immigrating from Mexico. Is this right? All I can say is that the alternative would not be pretty because then only those children whose parents afforded them the opportunity to learn Spanish would speak it and raise the competition for jobs in California. With the Spanish in schools requirement, all students are equally prepared.

And not being bi-lingual is unheard of in Europe. Most everyone in Europe speaks English way better than they are willing to admit, and usually speaks at least one other language as well as their native language.

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 01-22-2004 08:08:59 AM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Vernaltemptress wrote:
The demand for bi-lingual employees is a marketing issue. In order to get more dollars, a company must hire employees who speak a customer's language. Else, the customer will do business with a competitor. Hence, why you are seeing this requirement. In California, my nephew is required to learn Spanish in public elementary school because of the influx of children who are immigrating from Mexico. Is this right? All I can say is that the alternative would not be pretty because then only those children whose parents afforded them the opportunity to learn Spanish would speak it and raise the competition for jobs in California. With the Spanish in schools requirement, all students are equally prepared.

And not being bi-lingual is unheard of in Europe. Most everyone in Europe speaks English way better than they are willing to admit, and usually speaks at least one other language as well as their native language.



This is what I mean, though. This requirement is happening because people refuse to learn the language of the country they are coming to, and instead force us to have to cater to them and learn their language. I'm sorry. That's not right. We speak English in America. My German and French ancestors, when they came here, had to learn the language to fit in. I don't speak German or French fluently right now because somewhere down the line, they had to communicate with those around them, and so knowing English passed on down the line. Why should it be any different for people who can't be bothered to even come into the country legally and try to abide by our laws?


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Blindy
Roll for initiative, Monkey Boy!
posted 01-22-2004 08:14:13 AM
If companies had realized they could make a fortune by catering to your german ancestors while their competitors did not, then your ancestors wouldn't have had to learn english.

This isn't a government thing, it's a free market thing. God bless capitolism.

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can you please fix my title
posted 01-22-2004 09:11:15 AM
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Neo-Blindy had this to say about Captain Planet:
If companies had realized they could make a fortune by catering to your german ancestors while their competitors did not, then your ancestors wouldn't have had to learn english.

This isn't a government thing, it's a free market thing. God bless capitolism.



is beyond the free market the worst offenders are civil service jobs, where the consumer is actualy legaly obligated to provide their own interperter yet becuse we are all so PC we provide it for them.

I'm all for being Bi-lingual but it shouldnt matter what you have chosen your second language to be. all Should carry the same wieght and not be a discriminating factor which it curently is.

I once applied for a job with the probation dept. Now I have a Masters in Criminology and im a vet and I had simular past work. I was not given the job in favor of a hispanic girl who had only her HS diploma becuse she was bilingual. I challenged the choice stateing that I was also Bi lingual and that no where in the job discription did it say it was required to speak spanish, however it did say you needed a 2 year degree at LEAST to apply for the job (waived with experience) I further added that no one in thier deptment could provide ASL services where several could speak spanish. all this got me now where. I filed a complaint with the labour board which also went no where.

yeah I have a bit of anger toward the whole issue of ilegals in the US and people who are here who arent makeing the effort to learn our language.

Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Peter
Pancake
posted 01-22-2004 09:28:53 AM
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Azrael Heavenblade stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Can someone remind me why Somthor doesn't have his head upon a pike yet?

Why the Fuck would I want him on my Head? Just toss him into a chipper or a combine or something.

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