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Topic: Fuck you straight edges.
Emil
Hypersensitive; Beware of Hurt Feelings
posted 08-03-2003 03:46:57 PM
quote:
There was much rejoicing when Synjari said this:
Emil:

Punk.. stop tryin to psychoanalyze my life. I never said I was a straight edge or whatever.. Im just sayin stop fuckin bothering them about their choice.. You choose your way.. let them choose their way. Fuck off, cocksmoker.


Meanie

But at least you talked to me

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Emily
Why's everybody always hittin on me?
posted 08-03-2003 04:14:03 PM
quote:
Savannah / Emily had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
I don't see why a person's reasons for wanting to abstain from sex has to be justified or clarified. It could just be that JUST THEY DON'T WANT TO.

Holy fuck -- butt out, and let them live how they want.


WHY DOES EVERYONE IGNORE ME

Should've done something, but I've done it enough
By the way your hands were shaking
Rather waste some time with you

Should've said something, but I've said it enough
By the way my words were faded
Rather waste some time with you...

very important poster
a sweet title
posted 08-03-2003 05:18:49 PM
quote:
Savannah / Emily had this to say about Punky Brewster:
WHY DOES EVERYONE IGNORE ME


People agree: You're best seen, not heard.

hey
Obsolete
Pancake
posted 08-03-2003 05:29:00 PM
quote:
Verily, Jens doth proclaim:
People agree: You're best seen, not heard.


Bricktop
Old and Gay
posted 08-03-2003 07:32:45 PM
As opposed to Jens, who is best neither seen nor heard, and is STILL trying too hard.
A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent.
Bricktop
Old and Gay
posted 08-03-2003 07:43:46 PM
Seriously, though, Jens. This thread is making you look so completely stupid. I can probably drink anyone here(except for Call! omfg, god no not Call!) under the table, and I probably drink more often than anyone but you, Blindy and Parce. But all you've done so far in this thread is prove the "sXe" people's points about why drinking is bad. You're sixteen years old and your life already revolves around how drunk you're going to get tomorrow night. It's the most sad and pathetic thing I've seen since the last time Blindy tried to flame someone.

If you want to live your life like that, more power to you. It's your choice, just like the "sXe"(holy shit that is the most annoying short hand since 'ur') people. But please, don't make the rest of us who enjoy drinking look like idiots because your under developed brain is already destroyed by too many binges.

A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent.
Emily
Why's everybody always hittin on me?
posted 08-03-2003 07:44:25 PM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Jens!
People agree: You're best seen, not heard.

Should've done something, but I've done it enough
By the way your hands were shaking
Rather waste some time with you

Should've said something, but I've said it enough
By the way my words were faded
Rather waste some time with you...

Obsolete
Pancake
posted 08-03-2003 08:19:48 PM
I'm the only one in this thread that doesn't know what sXe stands for. I just read it as 'sexy'
Lady Delirium
Drysart loves me!
posted 08-03-2003 08:29:42 PM
quote:
Emil had this to say about (_|_):
If you are a born-again Christian or part of some other doctrinal dogma (like I used to be), then none of this really applies (although many hard core Christian sects still think drinking is ok.) If you sound like a public safety announcement all the time, I think you separate yourself socially from the large swath of society that helps make this country great. If you go to any mainstream University you will be hard-pressed to find cool people who don't have a drink on occasion or who don't have sex on occasion.

Even the hardcore geeks that I knew at UMass/Amherst had sex (or wanted to) all the time.

I guess I'm just disturbed that the youth on this board sound like officials from the government when it comes to fun stuff. Growing up is about trying things out and seeing what you like. Dismissing it out of hand without even trying it is.....well sad. Mind you I'm not talking about extreme measures (like cocaine or heroin, or playing chicken with a train.) Having a drink with a friend, having a night of naughty (safe) fun, and yes even smoking a j and watching the simpsons, I think your missing out if you don't at least try it. But I would agree that at 15, you probably aren't ready for it.


im a jew
im too young to go to a university
and i have sex.


yes, that is maradon spining around in a chair ^_ ____ _ ^
Skaw
posted 08-03-2003 09:39:21 PM
quote:
Obsolete had this to say about (_|_):
I'm the only one in this thread that doesn't know what sXe stands for.

Actually, I have no fucking clue. And whatever the fuck it is, I don't consider myself it.

Suddar
posted 08-03-2003 09:44:35 PM
Straight Edge. The X represents the X marked on the hands of underage party-goers. Told bartenders that they couldn't serve that person alcohol. They adopted it, and thus today we have sXe. I personally think saying it sXe is pretty dumb, so if you ever see me calling it sXe it's in mocking.
Canadian Mountee
Rumble Pak+FMV Sequence=FUN!
posted 08-03-2003 10:14:52 PM
quote:
There was much rejoicing when Cool Hand Luke said this:
STUFF

I challenge you in the fine art of boozery.

[ 08-03-2003: Message edited by: Liam ]

The World is Yours
Blindy
Roll for initiative, Monkey Boy!
posted 08-04-2003 12:29:16 AM
Being social with real people and letting your inhibitions go is a very important part of learning who you really are.
On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Lenlalron Flameblaster
posted 08-04-2003 12:32:18 AM
quote:
Absolut Blindy stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Being social with real people and letting your inhibitions go is a very important part of learning who you really are.

Good. You can do that without booze.

It's all in your head. Someone really shy and reserved like me has come to understand that and has made progress in the right direction.

And some inhibitions are good.

Grammar is your enemy! - While being able to understand someone's sentences might seem like a good idea for a proper essay, complaining on a forum scarcely leaves time for such trivialities. Write fast! You're angry, grrr! Make that show, and forget about things like capital letters, punctuation, and verbs.
Snugglits
I LIKE TO ABUSE THE ALERT MOD BUTTON AND I ENJOY THE FLAVOR OF SWEET SWEET COCK.
posted 08-04-2003 12:52:47 AM
quote:
Absolut Blindy stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
Being social with real people and letting your inhibitions go is a very important part of learning who you really are.

I'll keep that in mind.

By the way, hippy, how many trees have you hugged lately?

When you hug them, do you ram your cock into them, too?

[b].sig removed by Mr. Parcelan[/b]
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a sweet title
posted 08-04-2003 03:42:49 AM
quote:
Cool Hand Luke had this to say about GAY FAG LAG JEWS:
Seriously, though, Jens. This thread is making you look so completely stupid. I can probably drink anyone here(except for Call! omfg, god no not Call!) under the table, and I probably drink more often than anyone but you, Blindy and Parce. But all you've done so far in this thread is prove the "sXe" people's points about why drinking is bad. You're sixteen years old and your life already revolves around how drunk you're going to get tomorrow night. It's the most sad and pathetic thing I've seen since the last time Blindy tried to flame someone.

If you want to live your life like that, more power to you. It's your choice, just like the "sXe"(holy shit that is the most annoying short hand since 'ur') people. But please, don't make the rest of us who enjoy drinking look like idiots because your under developed brain is already destroyed by too many binges.


Uh Snoota, I think you may be confusing me with either Emil, Blindy or some other retard. Let's play a little game I invented here, it's called Get Your Damn Facts Straight. Here, I'll start:

  • I'm saying I don't care how you live your life, just don't go around proclaiming "lolz im sxe hehe". I don't go around "hay i drink lots of beer " unless I'm joking either.
  • My life doesn't revolve around how drunk I'm getting tomorrow. For instance, I haven't had alcohol all summer.

Moral elitists piss me off. Now go bang some dude in the ass

If sXe meant sexy, I'd be the king of sXe!

[ 08-04-2003: Message edited by: Jens ]

hey
Obsolete
Pancake
posted 08-04-2003 07:42:13 AM
Your game sucks. It's not even fun.
Blindy
Roll for initiative, Monkey Boy!
posted 08-04-2003 10:00:39 AM
quote:
We all got dumber when Where's Waisz? said:
I'll keep that in mind.

By the way, hippy, how many trees have you hugged lately?

When you hug them, do you ram your cock into them, too?


What would you think of a man that grew up never questioning what he was taught? What would you think of someone who still believes in Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny, and that children come from Cabbage patches?

At some point in your life, you must question what you know, and you must test what you are. Loosing your inhibitions is a big part of that. You'll understand when you're older.

On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Gydyon
Yes, I am a lawyer. No you can't sue them for that. Shut up, or I'll have your legs broken.
posted 08-04-2003 10:43:43 AM
quote:
Emil had this to say about Knight Rider:
A 25 year old who has never had sex, done drugs, drank alcohol, etc, is to me pretty boring.

Fuck you.

Gydyon
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Gydyon
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posted 08-04-2003 10:46:38 AM
quote:
Cool Hand Luke had this to say about Knight Rider:
I can probably drink anyone here.

If that was supposed to mean outdrink, I would so own you.

Well, maybe not. I have less fat to soak up the booze now ohnose.

Gydyon
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Blindy
Roll for initiative, Monkey Boy!
posted 08-04-2003 10:48:05 AM
quote:
I bet you never expected Gydfather to say:
If that was supposed to mean outdrink, I would so own you.

Well, maybe not. I have less fat to soak up the booze now ohnose.


Your fat content may have gone down, but your daily recomended value of sexy is though the roof!

On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Gydyon
Yes, I am a lawyer. No you can't sue them for that. Shut up, or I'll have your legs broken.
posted 08-04-2003 10:48:14 AM
quote:
Absolut Blindy had this to say about John Romero:
What would you think of a man that grew up never questioning what he was taught? What would you think of someone who still believes in Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny, and that children come from Cabbage patches?

At some point in your life, you must question what you know, and you must test what you are. Loosing your inhibitions is a big part of that. You'll understand when you're older.


Um, I'm older, and you're full of shit.

Gydyon
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Blindy
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posted 08-04-2003 10:54:17 AM
quote:
When Gydfather says stuff like this, it proves there isn't a god:
Um, I'm older, and you're full of shit.

you may be older, but i'm more expirenced. oh, cruel irony.

On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Gydyon
Yes, I am a lawyer. No you can't sue them for that. Shut up, or I'll have your legs broken.
posted 08-04-2003 11:01:56 AM
Experienced.

Experienced at what, Blindy? Sex? So what? From what I've read, you're also more experienced at heartbreak and not knowing enough about the opposite sex to get them to stay with you except for meaningless flings, likely because you're too shallow to think about anything but the sex....while I am about to spend the rest of my life with a woman I've never slept with because she's worth waiting for, and will make me happy even when I'm old and possibly toothless. But you're more experienced. Great job, slapnuts.

Experienced at what? Doing drugs? So you're a felon! Grand for you!

Experienced at what? Alcohol abuse? So you're probably halfway to alcoholism, and will never be able to make a girl laugh at a party sober, even after you are carrying a 30-day chip. Way to go. I did the alcohol thing, it was stupid and changed who I was. If I have to change who I am with booze to relax at a party and "lose inhibititons," then maybe who I am is an idiot. But again, way to go.

Or did you have a real point?

Look, you or anybody else want to tkae drugs, booze it up, or sleep around, that is your choice. I'm not here to judge you or your choices, even in Flameball. But don't pretend for one second it makes you a better person or creates a more enlightened worldview. It just makes you different. I make a point of not being preachy with my faith on this board -- why don't you do the same. Because that's all you've done here -- demonstrated a "faith" that your way of viewing the world is superior, while preaching to those of us that disagree.

Maybe you really are blind.

[ 08-04-2003: Message edited by: Gydfather ]

Gydyon
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Pancake
posted 08-04-2003 11:09:35 AM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Gydfather:
{SNIP}

Pwned.

The trouble is that we have a bad habit, encouraged by pedants and sophisticates, of considering happiness as something rather stupid. Only pain is intellectual, only evil interesting. This is the treason of the artist: a refusal to admit the banality of evil and the terrible boredom of pain. - Ursula K. LeGuin ~ The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas
Blindy
Roll for initiative, Monkey Boy!
posted 08-04-2003 11:11:31 AM
quote:
We all got dumber when Gydfather said:
snip

[ 08-04-2003: Message edited by: Absolut Blindy ]

On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Gydyon
Yes, I am a lawyer. No you can't sue them for that. Shut up, or I'll have your legs broken.
posted 08-04-2003 11:17:20 AM
You need some help offsite linking to zing me? PM me the picture, I'll even host it for you.
Gydyon
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Blindy
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posted 08-04-2003 11:24:17 AM
quote:
It's amazing that Gydfather can use a keyboard, considering they said:
Experienced.

Experienced at what, Blindy? Sex? So what? From what I've read, you're also more experienced at heartbreak and not knowing enough about the opposite sex to get them to stay with you except for meaningless flings, likely because you're too shallow to think about anything but the sex....while I am about to spend the rest of my life with a woman I've never slept with because she's worth waiting for, and will make me happy even when I'm old and possibly toothless. But you're more experienced. Great job, slapnuts.


You're marrying a Girl you've known for a little over a year. Good for you. My "Flings" have lasted much longer than that. MUCH longer.

quote:

Experienced at what? Doing drugs? So you're a felon! Grand for you!

We all make mistakes, this was one of mine. I haven't done any in well over two years now, and I would thank you to realize that I have never ever once told anyone in this thread that drugs were good.

quote:

Experienced at what? Alcohol abuse? So you're probably halfway to alcoholism, and will never be able to make a girl laugh at a party sober, even after you are carrying a 30-day chip. Way to go. I did the alcohol thing, it was stupid and changed who I was. If I have to change who I am with booze to relax at a party and "lose inhibititons," then maybe who I am is an idiot. But again, way to go.


Half way? shit. I'm all the way there baby. No, really, way to take the joke too seriously. You know I have nothing but respect for you Gyd, and I have no idea why you would think I was really trying to talk down to you.

quote:

Or did you have a real point?

Yeah, pull the stick out of your ass.

quote:

Look, you or anybody else want to tkae drugs, booze it up, or sleep around, that is your choice. I'm not here to judge you or your choices, even in Flameball. But don't pretend for one second it makes you a better person or creates a more enlightened worldview. It just makes you different. I make a point of not being preachy with my faith on this board -- why don't you do the same. Because that's all you've done here -- demonstrated a "faith" that your way of viewing the world is superior, while preaching to those of us that disagree.

This has nothing to do with being enlightened, but it does have everything to do with taking a very normal step in the path to adulthood. I don't know how you rationalize it, but i have never doubted that the first sign of a person becoming an adult is questioning everything that they belive in, and everything they were taught. Up until that point, they are not an individual or an adult, they are socially and egotistially a child. The thing about the sXe movement that pisses me off is the fact that it is encouraging children to NEVER QUESTION what they were taught, and NEVER take that step, and NEVER think for themselves on what they want to do, but blindly follow their parrents. It's another output of the media sensationalism that is, in my opinion, the single most distructive thing to the culture of the Western World, ever.

quote:

Maybe you really are blind.

No responce.

On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Blindy
Roll for initiative, Monkey Boy!
posted 08-04-2003 11:27:34 AM
quote:
Gydfather was doing great, then they had to go and say:
You need some help offsite linking to zing me? PM me the picture, I'll even host it for you.

that's ok i've got plenty of hosting right here.

On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Gydyon
Yes, I am a lawyer. No you can't sue them for that. Shut up, or I'll have your legs broken.
posted 08-04-2003 11:36:05 AM
And let the backpedaling begin!

Blindy, I thought you were a decent guy with some occasional issues, and an arrogance problem. But the way you've handled yourself in this thread and others just makes me wonder. Either you are entirely full of yourself and really believe that your way is the only way, or you are just the worst person at putting forth a joke argument ever. It's got to be one or the other in my mind at this point.

I wasn't saying you were a bad person, or an alcoholic, or anything else. I was just pointing out logical results of your lauded behavior that you claim is a normal requirement for full maturation. If I hit to [haha to v. too rofl] close to the mark and I offended you somehow, hey, you play the game you takes your chances. If I didn't, I applaud your luck and good fortune thus far. The outcomes I listed are not the only possible outcomes, but to claim what you've been claiming seriously without regard to those possible consequences is laughable. To claim it in jest just shows you're no good at joking around.

So either you're backpedaling to avoid offense, or you're really bad at posting in Flameball.

Which is it?

Gydyon
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Skaw
posted 08-04-2003 11:41:30 AM
Lol this thread is
Blindy
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posted 08-04-2003 11:43:08 AM
No, I was more suprised that you seemed offended by my comment. You see, my argument isn't a joke, but my statement about the expirenced thing was.

Look at your history Gyd, you say you had your bout with drinking, and even though you may regret taking it to far, would you say that if you hadn't done it, you'd still be the same person today?

On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Pesco
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posted 08-04-2003 11:43:37 AM
How would you know that a straight edge hasnt questioned how they were raised? Were you there during their childhood? Do you know exactly what happened to them to decide to do the things they have done? Do you have a fucking clue?

No.. you dont and you never will unless they tell you. Sure there are some people out there that will blindly follow others. This goes for everything though. But overall, the vast majority do not just follow others. For the most part, there are reasons people choose the things they do.

Who is to say that you arent just following your buddies? Just doing what they are to give yourself a false sense of happiness. Since you are under the impression that all straight edges are just followers, I'll assume that you are infact just a follower.

Blindy
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posted 08-04-2003 11:51:21 AM
Good argument Pesco.

I'd say it's different because alot of my friends are super pot-heads. I don't smoke pot. If I was a blind follower, and my friends were my influence, I'd be smoking pot, now wouldn't I?

On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Gydyon
Yes, I am a lawyer. No you can't sue them for that. Shut up, or I'll have your legs broken.
posted 08-04-2003 11:54:10 AM
quote:
Absolut Blindy had this to say about Cuba:
No, I was more suprised that you seemed offended by my comment. You see, my argument isn't a joke, but my statement about the expirenced thing was.

I was offended from the implication that your "experience" makes you a better person, which is exactly what your "oh, cruel irony" point was meant to say. Again, if you're joking I instruct you to add a smiley of some sort because you suck at it.

quote:
Look at your history Gyd, you say you had your bout with drinking, and even though you may regret taking it to far, would you say that if you hadn't done it, you'd still be the same person today?

No, I wouldn't be the same. I'd be a better person.


And to your point -- the idea that bad experiences or doing things that are forbidden can make one grow and learn is a fact. But the idea that someone can't learn and grow without engaging in potentially harmful behaviors is ludicrous. Disseminating that opinion is, in my view, either ill-informed or rationalization for encouraging others to engage in the same behavior, spurred on by one's own guilt or feelings of inadequacy.

[ 08-04-2003: Message edited by: Gydfather ]

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Skaw
posted 08-04-2003 11:55:39 AM
quote:
Pesco had this to say about Robocop:
follower

[ 08-04-2003: Message edited by: Skaw ]

Blindy
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posted 08-04-2003 12:00:46 PM
People can do what they want. Limiting their activites because they choose to maintain their childish innocence and never question what they have been taught is not the course I would recomend. If you think I am saying this because of feelings of inadequicy or regret for my own actions, I would have to say you're full of it.

sXe may be alot of good things, but it's also a cop-out for people too afraid to grow up.

On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Skaw
posted 08-04-2003 12:09:33 PM
quote:
Absolut Blindy thought about the meaning of life:
sXe may be alot of good things, but it's also a cop-out for people too afraid to grow up.

And "fuck fuck fuck drink drink fuck drink drink fuck fuck" is a cop-out for those too afraid to realize theres much, much, more important things in the world.

[ 08-04-2003: Message edited by: Skaw ]

Blindy
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posted 08-04-2003 12:12:06 PM
quote:
Someday, children will study Skaw in school:
And "fuck fuck fuck drink drink fuck drink drink fuck fuck" is a cop-out for those too afraid to realize theres much, much, more important things in the world.

like what?

On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Gydyon
Yes, I am a lawyer. No you can't sue them for that. Shut up, or I'll have your legs broken.
posted 08-04-2003 12:12:22 PM
quote:
Absolut Blindy had this to say about Knight Rider:
People can do what they want. Limiting their activites because they choose to maintain their childish innocence and never question what they have been taught is not the course I would recomend. If you think I am saying this because of feelings of inadequicy or regret for my own actions, I would have to say you're full of it.

sXe may be alot of good things, but it's also a cop-out for people too afraid to grow up.


Actually, I said it was because you were ill-informed, guilty, or inadequate.

And I was referring to the "you must experience something to understand it and to grow and mature, regardless of its potential harm" portion of your argument. So if you want to rest on ill-informed, fine by me. A hot stove teaches, but a good parent teaches before they have to tend a burn.

I think everyone should question what they're taught -- I'm not one for automatons or "mama's boys". That does not require enagaging in potentially harmful behaviors, and to suggest so is severely flawed and erroneous. Questioning can be an intellectual exercise, and maturity can be accomplished without widespread "experimentation".

And again, your points are still fully applicable to people with a different moral compass than you, and unfairly mischaracterizes them and the "straight edge" folks who believe what they believe because of moral conviction rather than hiding right along with those who are hiding, and I sure there are folks like that. And thus, your premise is still flawed. Especially since "straight edge," I would presume, has never been taught by an authority figure such as a parent.

[ 08-04-2003: Message edited by: Gydfather ]

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