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Topic: Fuck you straight edges.
Taeldian
Pancake
posted 08-06-2003 01:57:08 AM
Blindy, the fact is that just about everyone knows the dangers of alcohol. For them to question the scientific proof that these things are dangerous
is flat-out idiotic. Basically what a kid questions about alcohol isn't what they've been told about the dangers, but whether or not they should disregard said dangers and go have that type of fun.

Everyone makes the decision at one point or another. No one simply accepts that alcohol is bad simply because someone said "Alcohol is bad." Everyone who's heard "Alcohol is bad" wonders why it is at some point or another, and then they make the decision whether they going to drink or not.

No one walks around going, "Alcohol is bad!" without knowing the reasons why. Anyone who does is, as you said, a dumbass. There isn't a single person on this message board who is this way. Every one of us "straight-edgers" has our reasons for not drinking.

You essentially have no targets to flame. Funny, the way that works, considering you posted as if every one of us were that way. Your post is, in short, asinine.

quote:
I never said a damn thing about drugs. They are bad, mmm'kay?

What's the difference between alcohol and other drugs, besides legality?

Mr. Parcelan
posted 08-06-2003 01:59:37 AM
quote:
How.... Taeldian.... uughhhhhh:
What's the difference between alcohol and other drugs, besides legality?

Alcohol, while intoxicating, isn't as addictive or as immediately harmful.

Taeldian
Pancake
posted 08-06-2003 02:05:31 AM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Alcohol, while intoxicating, isn't as addictive or as immediately harmful.

So it's like a wuss drug?

Mr. Parcelan
posted 08-06-2003 02:11:51 AM
quote:
Taeldian stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
So it's like a wuss drug?

Yes, not wanting to be killed or arrested on felony possession makes you a wuss.

Taeldian
Pancake
posted 08-06-2003 02:14:46 AM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Mr. Parcelan was all like:
Yes, not wanting to be killed or arrested on felony possession makes you a wuss.

Damn straight.

Blindy
Roll for initiative, Monkey Boy!
posted 08-06-2003 09:34:46 AM
quote:
On a scale of 1 to Taeldian, we rated this an eleventy billion:

No one walks around going, "Alcohol is bad!" without knowing the reasons why. Anyone who does is, as you said, a dumbass. There isn't a single person on this message board who is this way. Every one of us "straight-edgers" has our reasons for not drinking.

Yeah, you're fucking wusses. Stop being such a pansy boy. As long as you're not a retard who drinks it constantly every day or a retard that drinks it and then decides to go out for a drive, beer is not going to bite you.

On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Obsolete
Pancake
posted 08-06-2003 10:25:36 AM
Go smoke some cigarettes.
Synjari
Warrior Princess
Cookie Seraphim!
posted 08-06-2003 03:55:53 PM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Absolut Blindy:
Yeah, you're fucking wusses. Stop being such a pansy boy. As long as you're not a retard who drinks it constantly every day or a retard that drinks it and then decides to go out for a drive, beer is not going to bite you.

You cant fuckin apply that to everyone, assmunch. Some people are extremely prone to alcoholism.. Some people are allergic to it. They go straight edge for a reason. Dont mean that they are wusses. Fuck.. my brother quit drinking altogether because of what it did to him and how it impaired his thinking. My own husband is both highly prone to alcoholism AND allergic to it. Stop putting down others for their choices.

"Villiany wears many masks, none of which are more dangerous than virtue." - "Sleepy Hollow"
Gydyon
Yes, I am a lawyer. No you can't sue them for that. Shut up, or I'll have your legs broken.
posted 08-06-2003 04:11:49 PM
quote:
The logic train ran off the tracks when Zephyer Kyuukaze said:
I lost my link to Gyd's collection of pictures when I reformatted.

I saved them all on http://gydyon.homestead.com/photo.html and photo1.html, I think.

Gydyon
Evercrest Lawyer

Thinking about your posts
(and billing you for it) since 2001

Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 08-06-2003 04:19:18 PM
quote:
Verily, Gydfather doth proclaim:
I saved them all on http://gydyon.homestead.com/photo.html and photo1.html, I think.

OMG YAY!

I've been sleeping like shit lately, so I'm too tired to photoshop, but I'll come up with something soon.

The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 08-06-2003 04:34:26 PM
Blindy, you are a fucking moron. Being prone to alcoholism is genetical, saying that everyone is fine as long as they follow a basic concept of rules when in fact, the deviance in being prone to alcoholism is about as big as the deviance in being prone to overweight... Seriously. You are just too fucking dumb to be true.
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 08-06-2003 04:50:00 PM
quote:
What's the difference between alcohol and other drugs, besides legality?

The body fully metabolizes alcohol. Duh.

Of course, your argument works the other way, too: if there's no difference between alcohol, it shouldn't matter that the others are illegal, and no one should complain about sticking to the one that's legal.

You need to work on that whole "logic" concept.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 08-06-2003 04:52:42 PM
quote:
Quoth Zaza:
Blindy, you are a fucking moron. Being prone to alcoholism is genetical, saying that everyone is fine as long as they follow a basic concept of rules when in fact, the deviance in being prone to alcoholism is about as big as the deviance in being prone to overweight... Seriously. You are just too fucking dumb to be true.

While not disputing Blindy's a moron, you've got your facts all dorked up with respect to both alcoholism and obesity. Genetics, in this case, != fate.

A person with a genetic predisposition to alcoholism doesn't have to be a tea-totaler.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 08-06-2003 05:31:03 PM
quote:
Bloodsage had this to say about Robocop:
While not disputing Blindy's a moron, you've got your facts all dorked up with respect to both alcoholism and obesity. Genetics, in this case, != fate.

A person with a genetic predisposition to alcoholism doesn't have to be a tea-totaler.


No, no, no. I just said that you can't declare a "If you don't drink every day it'll be okay!", because it's different for different people. I didn't mean that everyone prone to alcoholism will become an alcoholic.

Taeldian
Pancake
posted 08-06-2003 06:53:14 PM
quote:
Absolut Blindy had this to say about Cuba:
Yeah, you're fucking wusses. Stop being such a pansy boy. As long as you're not a retard who drinks it constantly every day or a retard that drinks it and then decides to go out for a drive, beer is not going to bite you.

Oh well, I guess I'm a wuss, then.

'Sage, I never said there was anything wrong with choosing to stick with the legal one. It was a simple question and both you and Parce answered it for me.

Blindy
Roll for initiative, Monkey Boy!
posted 08-06-2003 11:06:16 PM
Allow me to point something out.

quote:
sXe: I choose not to drink because bad things could happen.

quote:
yourwhatever: I can not drink because I am alergic to it.

Your Whatever is not a sXer. So fuck off, fuck.

On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Star Collective
Pancake
posted 08-07-2003 01:36:19 AM
quote:
The logic train ran off the tracks when Absolut Blindy said:
Allow me to point something out.

Your Whatever is not a sXer. So fuck off, fuck.


Fuck you, fuckhead.

(I love this forum )

The trouble is that we have a bad habit, encouraged by pedants and sophisticates, of considering happiness as something rather stupid. Only pain is intellectual, only evil interesting. This is the treason of the artist: a refusal to admit the banality of evil and the terrible boredom of pain. - Ursula K. LeGuin ~ The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas
Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 08-07-2003 03:58:59 AM
Did you have someone turn you down for sex cause they were straight edge?
Synjari
Warrior Princess
Cookie Seraphim!
posted 08-07-2003 04:12:21 AM
And you complain about people not reading your posts correctly? Screw you, dipshit. My.. 'whatever' isnt just allergic to alcohol.. he still wouldnt drink regardless because:

'sXe: I choose not to drink because bad things could happen.'

ie. he chooses not to because his father was an alcoholic.. fucktard. Btw.. KaL.. guess what? You're a Whatever!

"Villiany wears many masks, none of which are more dangerous than virtue." - "Sleepy Hollow"
KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 08-07-2003 06:50:11 AM
whooooohhwhwooo!! Im a whatever!! yea! wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Dont make me slap you so hard your bucket spins around, and around,and stops sideways,thus confusing you, and making you run about London wearing your bucket, a g-string, and carrying a stick,smacking the ground while yelling "MAGICALLY DELICIOUS! MAGICALLY FUCKING DELICIOUS!"- {Tal} to Mortious
Hebrew 9:3- 'And the Lord said unto me, "Dude, there isn't a K in covenant."' - Snoota

This beer drops trou and fucks your mouth with pure hoppy goodness. - Karnaj
KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 08-07-2003 06:51:56 AM
quote:
KaLourin probably says this to all the girls:
whooooohhwhwooo!! Im a whatever!! yea! wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!


edit: and to think I always considered violent illness and possible death under the category of "bad things could happen"

Dont make me slap you so hard your bucket spins around, and around,and stops sideways,thus confusing you, and making you run about London wearing your bucket, a g-string, and carrying a stick,smacking the ground while yelling "MAGICALLY DELICIOUS! MAGICALLY FUCKING DELICIOUS!"- {Tal} to Mortious
Hebrew 9:3- 'And the Lord said unto me, "Dude, there isn't a K in covenant."' - Snoota

This beer drops trou and fucks your mouth with pure hoppy goodness. - Karnaj
Blindy
Roll for initiative, Monkey Boy!
posted 08-07-2003 08:47:21 AM
quote:
KaLourin was doing great, then they had to go and say:
edit: and to think I always considered violent illness and possible death under the category of "bad things could happen"

that's more of a 'would' than a 'could'. This is the same thing for me as someone not taking penicilin because it would hurt them. it's not a decision then, which is something it would have to be to make you a sXer.

On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Taeldian
Pancake
posted 08-07-2003 03:40:34 PM
I'm not allergic to alcohol. I won't die if I use it.

Becoming addicted is something that runs in my family, but as someone said, it's not a sure thing that I'm going to become an alcoholic if I drink alcohol.

But the fact is that there is that chance, and it's not one I want to take. I've seen the way alcoholism can affect people even in their later lives, long after they've quit. I mean, I have enough problems with just caffeine as it is. In addition, I've seen drunk people. I don't want to get carried away and become that. Losing control of myself like that isn't something that appeals to me.

My whatever is more along the lines of "bad things could happen." So I'm not going to die if I drink; so what? I've made my choice to not drink, and it happens to be just that: My choice.

Call me a wuss all you want. It's not going to change a damned thing.

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 08-07-2003 03:48:07 PM
quote:
Channeling the spirit of Sherlock Holmes, KaLourin absently fondled Watson and proclaimed:
whooooohhwhwooo!! Im a whatever!! yea! wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!

You get a and a for spelling "yea" correctly. One of the very, very few.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 08-07-2003 05:07:35 PM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Taeldian:
Call me a wuss all you want.

ok!

KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 08-07-2003 05:14:03 PM
quote:
From the book of Bloodsage, chapter 3, verse 16:
You get a and a for spelling "yea" correctly. One of the very, very few.

beating and a hug from the 'Sage... =

Dont make me slap you so hard your bucket spins around, and around,and stops sideways,thus confusing you, and making you run about London wearing your bucket, a g-string, and carrying a stick,smacking the ground while yelling "MAGICALLY DELICIOUS! MAGICALLY FUCKING DELICIOUS!"- {Tal} to Mortious
Hebrew 9:3- 'And the Lord said unto me, "Dude, there isn't a K in covenant."' - Snoota

This beer drops trou and fucks your mouth with pure hoppy goodness. - Karnaj
Mightion Defensor
posted 08-08-2003 10:37:31 PM
My mother is a recovering alcoholic, and my father is a practicing one. I wouldn't touch alcohol if I could stand the smell. Which I can't.
Ace in the Spade
Pancake
posted 08-09-2003 03:36:35 AM
Try to keep in mind that if you are genetically predisposed to becoming alcoholic does nto mean that you will be one. If you drink a beer a few times a week you will nto become an alcoholic, nor will its addictive effects be enough for you not to override.
A few beers from time to time will do nothing to you, indeed some medical studies say that wine will improve health. If you drink a few beers at a party and then a few more three days later. You won't become an alcoholic unless you keep drinking and drinking, reducing the time between each one and increasing the frequency of your drinking.
So don't go to parties to get drunk. Instead go to hang out with your friends and meet new people. Going to get drunk is fucking stupid behavior. If you want to drink to get drunk then you will most likely be an alcoholic. Otherwise most likely not.
Im fucking tired of people using genetics as an excuse. If your genes mean you are more likely to be an alcoholic or fat it doesn't mean that you will be one. Nor does it mean that its your genes fault, its your own damn fault. People who drink a few beers on occasion aren't alcoholics. The majority of people who drink aren't alcoholic. The few that continuosly pour alcohol down their throats become that way even if they're are geneticall predisposed to being a non alcoholic.
The same holds true with fat people. Its not your genes that make you fat its you constant eating that makes you fat. The only way you can get fat is my eating more food then you burn. If you do this enough anyone will be fat. So all a fat person with "fatty" genes has to do is not stuff their face and only eat what their body needs. A person's body won't ask for more food then it wants. A person will how ever ask for more food than they need.
So stop making fucking crutches out of lifestyles or genetics and realize the fact that if you become fat, addicted to a drug, alcoholic, etc its your own damn fault. Conclusion, stop being a little bitch whose too afraid to try anything and instead learn some self restraint.
Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken.
KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 08-09-2003 04:14:57 AM
So.... by you twisted logic, Mightion and I should ignore the problems and shit out parents face with their addiction and go out and drink anyway? Fuck that shit.

"my mother and father are drunks, but hey! I'll be fine! lemme go out and drink and buy booze that they might get their hands on, and end up getting worse." No fuckin thank you.


and again... here we go with the "grow some balls and drink" mentality. Where is it stated that you MUST do this to advance in life? it's not some friggin prerequisite.


edit: Oh btw, isnt "not drinking because my parents alcoholics" part of the whole self restraint category? I dont want to drink because I see what it does to them. Sounds pretty self restraining to me.

[ 08-09-2003: Message edited by: KaLourin ]

Dont make me slap you so hard your bucket spins around, and around,and stops sideways,thus confusing you, and making you run about London wearing your bucket, a g-string, and carrying a stick,smacking the ground while yelling "MAGICALLY DELICIOUS! MAGICALLY FUCKING DELICIOUS!"- {Tal} to Mortious
Hebrew 9:3- 'And the Lord said unto me, "Dude, there isn't a K in covenant."' - Snoota

This beer drops trou and fucks your mouth with pure hoppy goodness. - Karnaj
Ace in the Spade
Pancake
posted 08-09-2003 09:51:47 AM
quote:
KaLourin stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
So.... by you twisted logic, Mightion and I should ignore the problems and shit out parents face with their addiction and go out and drink anyway? Fuck that shit.

"my mother and father are drunks, but hey! I'll be fine! lemme go out and drink and buy booze that they might get their hands on, and end up getting worse." No fuckin thank you.


and again... here we go with the "grow some balls and drink" mentality. Where is it stated that you MUST do this to advance in life? it's not some friggin prerequisite.


edit: Oh btw, isnt "not drinking because my parents alcoholics" part of the whole self restraint category? I dont want to drink because I see what it does to them. Sounds pretty self restraining to me.


No. What my logic is saying is that drinking is not the cause of the problem. Yes it has addictive effects, yes it can lead to problems. But the fault lies with the individual drinkers. Why is it that the majority of drinkers are not alcoholics. Self restraint is why. Those who are alcoholic do not posses the need restraint. If you drink because you're depressed which a reason for many people, then you can often become alcoholic. Why? Because in your depression you do not care. What most people forget is there comes a point where people know that they are drinking far too much and should cut back, but what do they do? They continue on their merry way. Somehwere down the road that was your parents. Some people are just too weak to restrain themselves or give up what they enjoy.
As far as the grow some balls and drink mentality is concerned. You should not be afraid to drink because of what happened to your parents. You should be more aware of the effects it can have and conseqeuntly you should have a greater respect for it. But completely abstaining is being afraid to drink. You say you don't want to end like your parents, then that is an example of fear. If you don't want to do something because of the possible represcussions, guess what? Its fear.
And saying I don't want to drink because I see what it does to them is a poor excuse at best. 1) You're not them. 2) You're not an alcoholic 3) With your fear of becoming an alcoholic you'd be even more careful about monitoring the amount you drink and frequencies. By having such examples before you, you're allowed a better oppoturnity than most to fully understand just what the effects can be rather than having to expierence them first hand. SO stop be afraid, take a drink if you want to. It won't kill you or make you an alcoholic, but just make sure you control your drinking otherwise you will end up like your parents.
On an other note, buying booze and allowing it near recovering alcoholics is stupid. If you did that then that would be stupid. Keeping it away from them would be smart. Its like what people do with small children who don't know better. Treat the situation the same.

Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken.
Blindy
Roll for initiative, Monkey Boy!
posted 08-09-2003 12:42:41 PM
For having the balls to open the can of worms that I really didn't want to touch, I salute you.
On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Taeldian
Pancake
posted 08-09-2003 03:07:50 PM
You're right. It is fear. I must have missed the part telling us that fear was a bad thing.

Disregarding fear for a moment, I still have no reason to drink in the first place. I have no desire to get drunk, nor do I have any desire to even get buzzed. Blindy says people should do it for the experience.

Taking fear back into the question, I don't want to take the risks involved with drinking just so I can have the experience. It can cause too much pain for no payoff. I'd just as soon touch a burning stove "just for the experience."

You say to use self control when drinking, but why not use that same self-control to not drink? It's much easier to maintain said self-control when you don't have alcohol taking away the inhibitions that gave you that self-cntrol in the first place.

Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 08-09-2003 05:03:37 PM
Why do people sky dive?

Where's your sense of adventure, you lame ass mother fucker?

Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 08-09-2003 05:16:19 PM
quote:
OldSchool Blindy stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
Why do people sky dive?

Where's your sense of adventure, you lame ass mother fucker?


I'd rather splat against the ground in a horrible sky diving accident than waste away in a drug and disease filled life. My definition of adventure doesn't include torturing myself for years after a few nights of fun.*

*exaggeration for effect, not to be taken literally.

Emily
Why's everybody always hittin on me?
posted 08-09-2003 05:45:37 PM
okay hm

[ 08-09-2003: Message edited by: Savannah / Emily ]

Should've done something, but I've done it enough
By the way your hands were shaking
Rather waste some time with you

Should've said something, but I've said it enough
By the way my words were faded
Rather waste some time with you...

Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 08-09-2003 07:00:22 PM
It takes years of bad habits to become an alcoholic, even if you have the genetic disposition.
And since I know someone's going to have a story about their friend's cousin's sister's wife having one drink and going alchy, i'm going to call pre-emptive bullshit on you right now.
very important poster
a sweet title
posted 08-09-2003 08:35:36 PM
i ahjd a liter of vodka today. yay
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