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MadCat the 2nd had this to say about (_|_):
If it once walked like a duck, and once talked like a duck, a few years later it's most likely still a duck.That's all I gotta say.
Unless it happened to live in a pond outside a nuclear research facility, in which case, it could now be... [ 07-15-2003: Message edited by: Lashanna ]
THE INDOMINABLE MAN-DUCK!
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Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about dark elf butts:
Since you seem fit to share, you might also mention that she was flirting with him in AIM prior to that, and apparently she gave something he thought was her asking for the video, a sort of pseudo-invitation, and that is why he sent the video.You might also mention the fact that it's been said she's asked for videos of things like this before.
And Kekvit has cleaned up his act, Dia. He wouldn't send something like that to anyone now unless there was some sort of encouragement.
Well Jesus, they all asked what Kekvit did. They didn't ask why 
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Lashanna had this to say about Robocop:
Unless it happened to live in a pond outside a nuclear research facility, in which case, it could now be...
THE INDOMINABLE MAN-DUCK!
Guess so - at least the advantage is ours then, it'll glow in the dark. Makes for easy aiming 
ben(at)netmastering(dot)nl
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The logic train ran off the tracks when Lyinar Ka`Bael said:
Since you seem fit to share, you might also mention that she was flirting with him in AIM prior to that, and apparently she gave something he thought was her asking for the video, a sort of pseudo-invitation, and that is why he sent the video.You might also mention the fact that it's been said she's asked for videos of things like this before.
And Kekvit has cleaned up his act, Dia. He wouldn't send something like that to anyone now unless there was some sort of encouragement.
Kekvit contacted me on AIM awhile ago, and we had a few non-personal, friendly conversations.
I noticed him getting a little weird and too personal for me when he offered to pay for this online modeling-account thing that he had found on the internet and wanted to get me into. I declined, and said "I don't want to take your money". But he kept insisting, and I always declined.
So, the other night, he comes on AIM and he's talking to me.. and out of the blue he's like..'Well, I have a video, but it's not exactly G-Rated!' And I was like 'What?' and he was like 'What kind of connection do you have?' and I told him 'Cable', and then he just sent it. So I was like 'Whatever. It can't be that bad, and I'm busy. I'll let it download and check it later or something.' So he kept pushing on after he sent it and was continued to ask me questions like, 'So did you like it? If you could have anyone at EC, who would it be? What would you do if you and I hooked up?' And then he asked me for pictures of myself, and I declined.
I was busy with a game, so I was just making idle conversation after he had sent it. I hadn't opened the video yet, and wasn't paying too much attention to what he was saying. It wasn't until later that day when I opened it (for a split-second) realized what it was, and closed and deleted it.
I'm sorry if you think that it's my fault, or that I invited it, or even asked for his video (or anyone else's), Lyinar.
Should've said something, but I've said it enough
By the way my words were faded
Rather waste some time with you...
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Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about Duck Tales:
Since you seem fit to share, you might also mention that she was flirting with him in AIM prior to that, and apparently she gave something he thought was her asking for the video, a sort of pseudo-invitation, and that is why he sent the video.You might also mention the fact that it's been said she's asked for videos of things like this before.
And Kekvit has cleaned up his act, Dia. He wouldn't send something like that to anyone now unless there was some sort of encouragement.
You can't seriously be trying to defend this... Seriously... I mean this goes beyond defending the idiotic.
For one, concidering her age, the issue at hand is illegal, and concidered 'Contributing to the Deliquency of a Minor'
Two, Em has a history of being flirtation and jumping around the boat, nothing personal but its the truth, but flirtatious or not, that is just perverse.
Kek has always been perverse, a compulsive liar, and been shown to have serious issues. You're talking about a man who denied BEING a man, and continuously propositioned for cyber with various EC members. Has harrassed several of the young ECers on a sexual level, and many other notorious acts of deviance.
You've defended a lot of idiots, and idiotic actions in the past, but this... Is just plain wrong, period. [ 07-15-2003: Message edited by: Faelynn LeAndris ]
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Nobody really understood why Bummey the Fool wrote:
Katrinity. I hate all that furry, tail-snuggle, cookie shit she does.
OMG! 
How could you hate cookies? Bastard! <pokes Bummey in the eye>
I'll still have to go with Lyinar, though.
Kekvit, you done fucked up boy - better pack your stuff and go someplace else to pursue your under-age fantasies, I think you just burned up the last credit you have at this place.
And that modeling thing, if you were referring to some online webcam deal, since there's not that many of them, I know almost all their owners personally - I'm quite sure they'd be very interested in you - if only to slap you with a ban and report you to the proper agencies.
I think I'm going to make it my hobby now to fuck with you. I think I'll enjoy it.
I think, one day, when you realise you're nothing but a sleazy little sick fuck, whose life amounst to nothing, you will find a creative way to remove yourself from the genepool. That day, I'll dance on your grave.
ben(at)netmastering(dot)nl
I add a vote in for Kekvit as well now though [ 07-15-2003: Message edited by: Vorago ]
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Katrinity Model 2000 was programmed to say:
OMG!How could you hate cookies? Bastard! <pokes Bummey in the eye>
It's not that I hate cookies. I hate the way you go around <GIVING COOKIES TO EVERYONE AND TAIL SNUGGLE FURRY HUGGING ^_^ ^_^> them. I fucking hate furries.
Disgusting.
What in the fucking hell made you think it was appropriate to send something like that? Do you just WANT everyone to hate you more than they already do? [ 07-15-2003: Message edited by: Bummey the Fool ]
But, I do take the responsibility in not telling him to "Fuck off and leave me alone" from the beginning. He just seemed like a nice, average guy when he spoke to me on AIM prior to this, and since I never mind having another friend, I was friendly to him. I could have been less friendly, and had I known about his past history as much as I do now, I'm sure that I would have been. So I'm sorry for being so naive. A few people have told me now, "Live and Learn", and I guess that's really all there is to say.
Should've said something, but I've said it enough
By the way my words were faded
Rather waste some time with you...
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ACES! Another post by Bummey the Fool:
It's not that I hate cookies. I hate the way you go around <GIVING COOKIES TO EVERYONE AND TAIL SNUGGLE FURRY HUGGING ^_^ ^_^> them. I fucking hate furries.
You were never hugged as a child, were you?
You poor, bitter person. ^.^
<tail-snuggles Bummey> And when I get another modem, I'm going to come and kill you long long time on ET
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Faelynn LeAndris had this to say about Tron:
You can't seriously be trying to defend this... Seriously... I mean this goes beyond defending the idiotic.
But damn, defending something like that is just unconceivably wrong on so many levels.
As for Lyinar, she should be cautious with who and how she plays devil's advocate. But I don't see that as a reason for banning. Yet.
EDIT: Not to say Kek isn't in the wrong, though. They're both guilty. [ 07-15-2003: Message edited by: Addy ]
Lyniar, I gotta go with Parce on this one. So Savannah was doing the friendly chat bit. Big fucking deal! Last time I checked, friendly does not equal whip it out and start stroking, much less sending such a video to a minor.
Savannah's both a minor, and involved with someone else; This just isn't excusable in any fashion.
It's not something people hear about.
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Addy had this to say about Punky Brewster:
You know, I gotta agree with Lyinar on this. Kek did a bad, bad, thing, but it isn't just HIS fault.
I dunno about that. I doubt Emily asked Kek for a video of him masturbating, even in jest.
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We were all impressed when JooJooFlop wrote:
I dunno about that. I doubt Emily asked Kek for a video of him masturbating, even in jest.
Given their histories, can you really fully believe both sides readily?
What Kek did was wrong. Morally, legally and any other way you want to look it. Her being underaged just jacks it up to a whole other level. Playing that raggedy "she asked/hinted for it" card is just the worst sort of "blame the victim" rationalization. You think that Kek's gotten a raw deal here? Well, he has. The point is, however, it's about 99.9% self-inflicted. If Kek ever wants to see the cause of his problems, all he's gotta do is look in the mirror.
It's fine that you want to stick up for people. And you're certainly passionate in your defense, but realize that other folk's feelings can run every bit as deep and they are gonna bristle when someone gets on them about their treatment of someone that they view as little more than human sewage. Remember that just because he's never pulled any of his shit with you doesn't qualify him for the "He's just misunderstood club".
P.S. My vote would be for Paul554 or anyone stupid enough to claim that they are him, even if they aren't.
There's a few people, though, that I'd blacklist instead.
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This insanity brought to you by Addy:
Given their histories, can you really fully believe both sides readily?
It is possible, yes, but I doubt it. I just have trouble believing anyone would so much as allude to wanting to see Kek masturbate. *gags*
Should've said something, but I've said it enough
By the way my words were faded
Rather waste some time with you...
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Addy wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
You know, I gotta agree with Lyinar on this. Kek did a bad, bad, thing, but it isn't just HIS fault.EDIT: Not to say Kek isn't in the wrong, though. They're both guilty.
Do you think anyone would actually ask for a video of that guy masturbating??
Being friendly doesn't translate into 'send me videos of yourself'.
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Addy had this to say about Tron:
Given their histories, can you really fully believe both sides readily?
Being flirtatious doesn't mean you're gagging for it; being friendly doesn't mean "hi! show me videos of you jacking off prz!". If that's what you thought, might I suggest you grow 2 additional braincells and attempt to think?
ben(at)netmastering(dot)nl
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MadCat the 2nd had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Being flirtatious doesn't mean you're gagging for it; being friendly doesn't mean "hi! show me videos of you jacking off prz!". If that's what you thought, might I suggest you grow 2 additional braincells and attempt to think?
Before you go questioning braincells, you may want to investigate the information that such accusations are based off of.
Nothing personal, but there is merit in what she's said. Granted, not enough to alleviate the issue, but merit all the same. She's also not defending him, so best to keep the snap remarks to a minimum.
Dammit! I've wasted so many years.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Quoth Faelynn LeAndris:
Before you go questioning braincells, you may want to investigate the information that such accusations are based off of.Nothing personal, but there is merit in what she's said. Granted, not enough to alleviate the issue, but merit all the same. She's also not defending him, so best to keep the snap remarks to a minimum.
Put up or shut up: what is this alleged additional information you have?
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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ACES! Another post by Bloodsage:
Wait. . .so if a minor flirts with you, it's okay to do weird perverted shit?Dammit! I've wasted so many years.
No kidding! Right?
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Bloodsage had this to say about Pirotess:
Put up or shut up: what is this alleged additional information you have?
Try asking some of the people who have been involved with her most recently, aside fron her most recent being Tier.
I like Tier, and concider him a friend, so not my place to go dredging up dirt.
I also didn't say it was in defense of him, as I think I already quite clearly condemed the action. Just the fact that Em has a tendency to be a bit more that just 'friendly' on occasion, and has a history of such.
And the fact of jumping on Addy for basically saying such about Em being the way she is, and being attacked for it when she wasn't even defending the action either, didn't really fit.
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Faelynn LeAndris got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Before you go questioning braincells, you may want to investigate the information that such accusations are based off of.Nothing personal, but there is merit in what she's said. Granted, not enough to alleviate the issue, but merit all the same. She's also not defending him, so best to keep the snap remarks to a minimum.
Considering Kekvit has a history, and I'm not entirely convinced Em would've asked for it, I've made that statement. I also made a snap remark because I'm quite pissed at a lot of people (not necessarily from EC) that always assume "she must've asked for it".
On the other hand, for all I know she could've asked for it - then again, he should've just said 'no' - from the way it looks however, he more or less pushed it on her.
Edit: Also, to clarify why I snapped, in the 6 odd years I've been in the "adult" industry, I've seen a lot of disgusting things, one of the most disgusting being child pornography - I've seen the victims, I've seen the perpetrators, I've seen the people that groove on that stuff. I've seen a whole lot of things I wish I wouldn't have, all thanks to those lovely pedohiles.
I don't like them (If I was in charge, they'd all die slow). The thought that, of all places, we have one here at EC is not something I like. [ 07-15-2003: Message edited by: MadCat the 2nd ]
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