Daaaaaaaamn.
Or have you forgotten how defensive the board is of their own, and that we jump to the defense or offense if ANYTHING happens to anyone? especially something like this?
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KaLourin enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
If she wanted to keep it a secret, she should have a) not told anybody, and ignored the twit or b) told her "friends" not to say anything. She told her friends, they got pissed, they told their friends. Boom everyone knows. Shit spreads like wildfire on the boards for right or wrong. and NOTHING will stop it short of things not being said in the first place. Hell, by the time I caught word of it in RPCrest, it was a full blowntopical discussion in main chat.Or have you forgotten how defensive the board is of their own, and that we jump to the defense or offense if ANYTHING happens to anyone? especially something like this?
So, she should be apologizing for what happened to her and wanting to discuss it with her friends?
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Verily, JooJooFlop doth proclaim:
So, she should be apologizing for what happened to her and wanting to discuss it with her friends?
I think that was more directed at Blindy.
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How.... Faelynn LeAndris.... uughhhhhh:
I think that was more directed at Blindy.
Ah, I see.
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KaLourin was doing great, then they had to go and say:
If she wanted to keep it a secret, she should have a) not told anybody, and ignored the twit or b) told her "friends" not to say anything. She told her friends, they got pissed, they told their friends. Boom everyone knows. Shit spreads like wildfire on the boards for right or wrong. and NOTHING will stop it short of things not being said in the first place. Hell, by the time I caught word of it in RPCrest, it was a full blowntopical discussion in main chat.Or have you forgotten how defensive the board is of their own, and that we jump to the defense or offense if ANYTHING happens to anyone? especially something like this?
A valid argument. Mistakes were made, but a person should never assume something of this nature is not being told to them in confidence.
If one of my best friends told me she got date raped (for example. I'm not trying to draw a parallel), I certianlly wouldn't make my first course of action telling all my friends about the incident. I think it shows a very serious lapse in judgement to do so, without either permission from or a fear for the well being of the victim.
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Absolut Blindy said this about your mom:
A valid argument. Mistakes were made, but a person should never assume something of this nature is not being told to them in confidence.If one of my best friends told me she got date raped (for example. I'm not trying to draw a parallel), I certianlly wouldn't make my first course of action telling all my friends about the incident. I think it shows a very serious lapse in judgement to do so, without either permission from or a fear for the well being of the victim.
I soooooooooooooooooooo wanted to make a comparison here, but I'm gonna be nice instead.
People talk. People gossip. It's an undeniable fact. Most people will spread news as soon as they can unless told "Don't tell anybody"
and it has nothing to do with it being Kekvit or Em. It could be anyone. If *I* made the video and sent it to say... Alleria, whom I barely talk too, news would spread and you'd all be calling for my blood and head on a plate as well.
Thats just the nature of this place.
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Faelynn LeAndris needed a klingon dictionary to type:
I soooooooooooooooooooo wanted to make a comparison here, but I'm gonna be nice instead.![]()
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The difference, Fae, between this and my friend spending money on a net whore, is that none of you know my friend. [ 07-15-2003: Message edited by: Absolut Blindy ]
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Absolut Blindy wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
The difference, Fae, between this and my friend spending money on a net whore, is that none of you know my friend.
Wasn't that, but thats another good one, and it still applies.
Confidence is confidence regardless of area used to express something. Just because a priest is told something in a confessional, doesn't mean he can go to the local fast food joint and spill the beans.
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Faelynn LeAndris must of had a painful childhood to type:
Wasn't that, but thats another good one, and it still applies.Confidence is confidence regardless of area used to express something. Just because a priest is told something in a confessional, doesn't mean he can go to the local fast food joint and spill the beans.
If you want to get technical, my friend's money spending on a net whore was something he bragged about to many people. He had links to pictures of her on his website, all saying stuff like "My little cutie." Had he come to me with embarrissment and anger about how he had been taken advantage of, I wouldn't have posted anything.
If you recall, the thing about that situation that made me the angrist is that he had no idea he was being taken advantage of and was completely under her rapture.
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Absolut Blindy said:
If you want to get technical, my friend's money spending on a net whore was something he bragged about to many people. He had links to pictures of her on his website, all saying stuff like "My little cutie." Had he come to me with embarrissment and anger about how he had been taken advantage of, I wouldn't have posted anything.If you recall, the thing about that situation that made me the angrist is that he had no idea he was being taken advantage of and was completely under her rapture.
Still not what I was thinking of, but okay.
i would IP ban Kek as well, seeing as how the first time he IMed me (before id ever even heard or him or read a post by him) it went something like this:
Kekvit(<-not his real screename): ::kiss::
i was like..um...ok
i tried to be nice to him and all, but i was sincerely creeped out. he proceeded to send me several pictures and continue to speak to me "in that way" i dont really have the heart to tell people to fuck off so i tried ignoring him..after no progress i finally notified Drysart. im surprised that after all he's done to all the ECers, most especially minors (myself being 15 and Emily being 17 and im sure several more) that he isnt banned yet.
it almost made me worry talking to him
i think kekvit is the type of online guy who would goe and kidnap girls and rape them and stuff.
While i disagree with Lyinar's support for him in this matter, i think she'd make a good lawyer: always able to see two sides of a situation. i think she was only trying to get us to look at this from a different point of view
(oh ho ho! I make old skewl funnay)
Til I was talking about getting ready for my graduation party.
(I'm always on AIM, as is he)
He offered to come up from Alabamaish, and help - I toldl him no, and my mom would SERIOUSLY like throw me out or something... And that it was wierd, and stalkerish.
He told me that stalkers were so scary because you didn't know if they met it or not. (Not verbetim, it was 2 months ago)
And he said "OMW, see you in 12 hours." And logged off.
He who never logs off... He even logged off for the next TWO DAYS, just to scare me. He scared the shit out of me, and afterword, I was like "NOT COOL" and he was like "Haha~ I r funnay stalker."
... So now he's ignored in every way I can. That, and some comments he made towards me.
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Vobo's momma would never want to hear them say:
I am damn glad I don't have breasts.
Kekvit was wrong to send something sexual to a minor. He does make bad decisions sometimes. He needs to watch himself around women more.
But Kekvit isn't the only one in the wrong here, and that was my only point. He's not the monster people are trying to make him out to be. Em did something wrong, too. I'm not trying to exonerate Kekvit in any way from what he might have done wrong. But he does not deserve to have all the blame laid on him.
And Em, if you do have a log, then I would love to see it. I am not trying to embarrass or upset you in any way. That's why I asked those who wanted to know to PM me. And when Liam stated what he did, I wanted to clarify on it.
He is a very eager to please person, sometimes to a fault, and it's almost compulsive for him to give people what he feels they want. So he may have gotten that impression from something you said.
Whatever he may have been in the past, he is not that person any longer. He would not do something like this without provocation, and it was that certainty that led me to start digging about it. I talk to him nearly every day, he's hung out in my channel, and Deth has even *met* him. We know him a lot better, I imagine, than anyone around here. And we are both of the mind that there is more to this than just "Kekvit sent a video that Em didn't want".
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Bloodsage thought about the meaning of life:
Whenever I see you flame, it reminds me of the time Mr. Burns was wandering the woods after his rejuve treatment, tanked on painkillers and preaching love. Only opposite.
THAT'S RIGHT, BITCH!!!
Thinking about your posts
(and billing you for it) since 2001
In the legal system, neighborhoods that a sexual predator moves into are warned of the perp's past. As we can see, he had already begun to move in on Alleria. This needed to be said.
I can guarantee you if he had told Lyinar, she would quietly sweep it under the rug and hope it remains there. Anybody is innocent if they're your friend, right?
I saw the log. In Kekvit's mind, perhaps it was flirting. But that doesn't excuse it at all. Not by a longshot. If a girl winks at me or flashes me a smile or even says "You're cute", I'm not going to whip my dick out and wave it in her face.
Maybe that's logical in Kekvit's twisted mind, but not in the eyes of the public and not in the eyes of the law. That's preying on a minor, pure and simple. And Kekvit is FAR more at fault than anyone else. Maybe since he hasn't spoken to a woman in years, a friendly chat means he's being seduced, but the rest of us know better.
You can't bring up Emmy's history of being flirtatious without bringing up Kekvit's history, which we all know all too well. Now, bring up their crimes one by one, and tell me which is worse. If you think child molestation is better than being overly friendly with someone, you might have the same issues as Kekvit.
And I don't buy the whole: "Not my problem, let's stay out of it" excuse. Emmy is my friend. Friends look out for friends. I look out for my friends. I did it in the past and I will do it now, despite whatever anyone may think or say.
And what he did doesn't just equate to "watching himself around women more." This is the SECOND time he's sexually harrassed a minor of the board. And one of the countless times he's harrassed a board member.
How many times are we just going to let it slide and let him know it's okay to keep this bullshit up? I'm sick of it. I'm sick of him harrassing my friends. I'm sick of him playing the victim when he sexually assaults people and getting others to stand up for him while he chooses his next target.
The boards should be a safe haven from RL crimes. Theft, personal threats, and sexual harrassment count as that.
There are many, many better ways to get him back, that don't involve bringing her into the topic. [ 07-15-2003: Message edited by: Absolut Blindy ]
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So quoth Absolut Blindy:
Parce, your intentions may well have been honorable... but did you think about getting HER take on the idea, first?There are many, many better ways to get him back, that don't involve bringing her into the topic.
And at what cost? What if no action was taken?
Alleria was next. Then Lady D. He would have worked his way around.
What's better? Suffering a little humiliation or discovering he's done a ring of this and hasn't yet been even scolded for it?
It's a difficult choice.
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Check out the big brain on Archer-Penguin!
Kekvit, you are sick
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Mr. Parcelan stopped lurking long enough to say:
And at what cost? What if no action was taken?Alleria was next. Then Lady D. He would have worked his way around.
What's better? Suffering a little humiliation or discovering he's done a ring of this and hasn't yet been even scolded for it?
It's a difficult choice.
You could have got a copy of the video he sent her and posted it on EC general. Not identified the source.
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Palador ChibiDragon was doing great, then they had to go and say:
She had allready deleted it.
Like that means it's gone.
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IT'S
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Locked by request.
Edit - If you have a problem, send all your drama to my PM box. [ 07-15-2003: Message edited by: Black Mage ]