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There was much rejoicing when DarkDragoon said this:
It's the fact that the police officer refused to close the door and got into a situation that caused him to panicked because of it.It was the WILLFULL refusal of preventing the situation from occuring, it could have been a dog or a little kid, it doesn't matter!
I refer you to Drysart's post.
Are you a police officer? Have you ever pulled over a car full of people and animals, which are often trained to be vicious, that were allegedly involved in a carjacking?
Christ man, you talk out of your ass better than Jim Carrey.
And yes, we've been talking about other shit for a few hours now. You're the guy who keeps trying to sneak in a last word. [ 01-12-2003: Message edited by: D ]
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D had this to say about dark elf butts:
Christ man, you talk out of your ass better than Jim Carrey.
That was pretty good.
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DarkDragoon impressed everyone with:
It was the WILLFULL refusal of preventing the situation from occuring, it could have been a dog or a little kid, it doesn't matter!
YES IT DOES. THERE IS A HUGE FUCKING DIFFERENCE IN THE LIFE OF A HUMAN AND THE LIFE OF A GODDAMNED DOG.
JESUS CHRIST. We don't want fucking PETA members lurking here. Go the fuck away.
edit: Spelling. [ 01-12-2003: Message edited by: Kegwen. ]
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DarkDragoon impressed everyone with:
*Sighs* you people just can't let the subject drop can you?Are you people really going to argue with me that nobody considers their pets part of their family? just because YOU don't doesn't mean that nobody does m'kay?
Every so often I have to remind myself why I lurk instead of post, and this is exactly why... I didn't kiss ass my way up the "EC social ladder" to get into the little clicks you are in.
You people savagely defend each other just because of that, ignoring the real arguement and simply going for insults because its easier to attack the person then address the issue.
Do you people even listen long enough to understand what i'm angry about here? its not the dog, or the people... It's the fact that the police officer refused to close the door and got into a situation that caused him to panic because of it.
It was the WILLFULL refusal of preventing the situation from occuring, it could have been a dog or a little kid, it doesn't matter!
Excuse me, but... is the person in your sigpic crosseyed, or just attempting to look cool?
A family is, according to ye olde dictionary: "A group of persons or animals with common ancestory."
Now, some people LOVE their dogs.. but, I'm sad to say, being of two seperate species a human and a dog cannot mate to create a family. 
I'm sorry, but part of society is that it requires the conforming of it's citizens.
Just ask Emerson..
It's a dog, the family will get over it. If they don't, and need to get mental counseling for trauma, then they probably needed to get mental counseling anyway.
It's a bloody dog. There was an accident, or an error in judgement, etc. and the dog died.
It wasn't like the police officer rounded up the dog, laughed cruelly, and shot him in the head.
It was just something that happened, get over it, go find a PETA commune or whatever somewhere, and live in perfect harmony with nature, living off of tofu. [ 01-12-2003: Message edited by: Lashanna ]
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Arrenn Lightblade Model 2000 was programmed to say:
*lets loose the robotic dogs, ironically made from melted down shotguns.*
For woofie! Now the humans feel the sting of a shotgun!!
ROFL
If my bird was killed all of the sudden, I'd be pretty shocked at first.
But I'd get over it. Why? Because she was, after all, just a pet.
Same with the dog. A dog is not a human being... a dog lacks a soul.
A dog isn't family.
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Addy had this to say about Captain Planet:
Same with the dog. A dog is not a human being... a dog lacks a soul.A dog isn't family.
Well, I dont know about the soul thing.. But I personally think they do have souls.
Also, I would get upset about it, very very damn upset, possibly to the point of being so enraged I do something stupid.
But it will pass, and I'll get over it.
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Liam³ was listening to Cher while typing:
Well, I dont know about the soul thing.. But I personally think they do have souls.Also, I would get upset about it, very very damn upset, possibly to the point of being so enraged I do something stupid.
But it will pass, and I'll get over it.
True, it's personal opinion about the whole "soul" bit. Many would even argue that we don't have one.
D, I refer you to Azizza's and Lyinar's post... the police officer is held to a higher standard. if you are unable to deal with the situation in a rational manner YOU SHOULD NOT be a police officer.
Kegwen, the point of that statement is that It could have been a kid or a drunk or whatever that he shot. if this is how he acts under pressure, he very likely would have.
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ACES! Another post by DarkDragoon:
Do you people even listen long enough to understand what i'm angry about here? its not the dog, or the people... It's the fact that the police officer refused to close the door and got into a situation that caused him to panic because of it.
I can't find anywhere that it says that the cop that left the door open is the same one that shot the dog.
And here's a news flash for you Skippy, lots of us are upset about this. Do you think we talked about it for over 3 pages because we're fans of Cruella DeVil? No, we talked about it because it was a Bad Thing that happened.
However, now the family is acting every bit as thoughtless and stupid as they ever claimed the police officers to be. They're attacking the people who, this tragic mistake aside, put their lives on the line every day so that we don't have to.
It's sad that the dog died. But, if they rally up trouble enough for the police in their drive for revenge, then the police won't be as able to do their job. When that happens it WILL be some kid that dies for it.
If you still don't get it, then you're beyond the message. Stick a fork in me, I'm done.
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A sleep deprived Liam³ stammered:
Also, I would get upset about it, very very damn upset, possibly to the point of being so enraged I do something stupid.But it will pass, and I'll get over it.
But that's just because you're a drunken Newfie who likes to get pissed off.. You'd get over the dog dying when you woke up in jail with a hangover.
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DarkDragoon obviously shouldn't have said:
D, I refer you to Azizza's and Lyinar's post... the police officer is held to a higher standard. if you are unable to deal with the situation in a rational manner YOU SHOULD NOT be a police officer.
He made a bad call. So fucking what? I invite you to take that as a career choice, if you think you can do better.
I fucking dare you.
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Lashanna obviously shouldn't have said:
But that's just because you're a drunken Newfie who likes to get pissed off.. You'd get over the dog dying when you woke up in jail with a hangover.
That's probably true as well.
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We were all impressed when DarkDragoon wrote:
D, I refer you to Azizza's and Lyinar's post... the police officer is held to a higher standard. if you are unable to deal with the situation in a rational manner YOU SHOULD NOT be a police officer.
Uh, like I said, it was a fucking accident, things happen.
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Kegwen, the point of that statement is that It could have been a kid or a drunk or whatever that he shot. if this is how he acts under pressure, he very likely would have.
You can make no basis on that whatsoever,
It's one thing to shoot an animal, and another to shoot a person, entirely, regardless of who the person is.
So sorry. I'm getting the feeling you're just playing Devil's Advocate... If you're not... Well, get help, man.
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DarkDragoon had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Ok... this is going to be fun, as I seem to be against most of the board.
When that happens there is usually a reason for it. Some are intelligent enough to figure it out. Some are not. Which type will you be!?
Find out tomorrow, when you come back after nobody has posted on the subject for hours and tell us all to drop it!
He wouldn't have shot a kid like that. Why? Because kids can't rip the flesh off of your leg with their teeth like a dog can. Dogs are, by nature, armed.
If a human had climbed out of the car with a knife, and came at him (smiling or not), any sane person would have defended themselves.
DOGS. ARE. DANGEROUS!
You want to know how he would react to a non-dangerous encounter during stress? Ask the three people that they arrested. You know, the ones that didn't get their heads blown off, because they didn't come at him while armed.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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This one time, at Frog camp:
Find out tomorrow, when you come back after nobody has posted on the subject for hours and tell us all to drop it!
Bah, I was gonna bring it up again tomarrow just so he could tell me to drop it and feel better about himself.
Guess I can't now, since he'd probably cling to it as an example of how wrong you are. Lord knows what tedious exchange would arise from that...
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Palador ChibiDragon wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
If a human had climbed out of the car with a knife, and came at him (smiling or not), any sane person would have defended themselves.
I'd be more inclined to shoot someone with a knife if they were smiling at me.
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Lyinar Ka`Bael impressed everyone with:
What I'd wondered was why he went for a killing shot, and not a putting out of commission shot.
I don't know where the hell you shoot a dog to put it out of commission without killing it, especially with a shotgun.
A pistol shot to the back, ass, or legs probably would of opened up a larger can of worms.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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From the book of Palador ChibiDragon, chapter 3, verse 16:
Because kids can't rip the flesh off of your leg with their teeth like a dog can.
You've obviously never been a babysitter.
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Lyinar Ka`Bael was naked while typing this:
I couldn't say. I'm not a dog expert. I just question the severity of the action.
Neither am I, and I doubt he was either.
So, he does what he knows how to do, put down the assailant.
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Lyinar Ka`Bael wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
I couldn't say. I'm not a dog expert. I just question the severity of the action.
Police Officers also are only supposed to shoot to kill, who knows.
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Zephyer obviously shouldn't have said:
Enough about the dog! Let's get back to talking about handcuffs!
...Why only talk?
*leaps at Zephy and tackles him to the head, applying her handcuffs in a skillful manner indicative of years of practice, and stradles the prone young man, leaning over to him, smothering him in kisses of affection and passion, running her hands along his body!*
After trying to defend the victims of this accident, I can only say that I need more practice in debate.
talking about handcuffs is a good idea though.
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Everyone wondered WTF when DarkDragoon wrote:
I think im done with this conversation... I cannot seem to get through to you the other side of this issue people.After trying to defend the victims of this accident, I can only say that I need more practice in debate.
No, what you need is a valid point and the ability to justify it.
You have neither.
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Lashanna wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
...Why only talk?
*leaps at Zephy and tackles him to the head, applying her handcuffs in a skillful manner indicative of years of practice, and stradles the prone young man, leaning over to him, smothering him in kisses of affection and passion, running her hands along his body!*
Omg, Lash... [gogo rqg]
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Lashanna stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
Police Officers also are only supposed to shoot to kill, who knows.
Negative. Police officers draw weapons to show willingness to use force as necessary, but even then there are situations where even drawing a weapon is considered over-use of force (though it's hard to prove).
Police don't shoot to kill. They shoot to prevent the other person from using lethal force against them, or to protect others from being the victim of lethal force. Even SWAT snipers have to ask permission to take a kill shot.
The firearms instructor when I was looking at BLET was very very explicit about that the week I was observing. If a cop draws his weapon and the criminal assumes the guy's shooting to kill for all instances, then that ups the ante. Believable survivability.
If you think that every time a cop fires his gun it means someone has to die, then you've been playing too much Counterstrike or something.
sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me
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Lashanna obviously shouldn't have said:
...Why only talk?
*leaps at Zephy and tackles him to the head, applying her handcuffs in a skillful manner indicative of years of practice, and stradles the prone young man, leaning over to him, smothering him in kisses of affection and passion, running her hands along his body!*
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...If I wasn't gay, I would be very, very, very turned on right now. 
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Negative. Police officers draw weapons to show willingness to use force as necessary, but even then there are situations where even drawing a weapon is considered over-use of force (though it's hard to prove).Police don't shoot to kill. They shoot to prevent the other person from using lethal force against them, or to protect others from being the victim of lethal force. Even SWAT snipers have to ask permission to take a kill shot.
The firearms instructor when I was looking at BLET was very very explicit about that the week I was observing. If a cop draws his weapon and the criminal assumes the guy's shooting to kill for all instances, then that ups the ante. Believable survivability.
If you think that every time a cop fires his gun it means someone has to die, then you've been playing too much Counterstrike or something.
OK, a police officer doesn't fire a gun at a suspect without intending to kill.
Better?
I think the officer was irresponsable in shooting the dog, and the family is in the right for being upset over it. Yeah, it's just a dog, but what the hell else would they do? A member of their family was killed, even if it's just a dog. If no action was taken, maybe people might get it into their heads that pets aren't worth caring about.
I'd be pretty god damn angry if the same happened to my Mollybeast.
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Lashanna's account was hax0red to write:
...Why only talk?
*leaps at Zephy and tackles him to the head, applying her handcuffs in a skillful manner indicative of years of practice, and stradles the prone young man, leaning over to him, smothering him in kisses of affection and passion, running her hands along his body!*
Um, I'm gay and I like handcuffs too.
