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Big_Mac Model 2000 was programmed to say:
Are you telling me that the child has any chance at all of becoming well adjusted and having a normal childhood if it were raised by a 15 year old?
Adoption. Or are YOU saying that parents who adopt are inferior to natural parents? ( I am aware that this may open a whole damn can of worms, but i feel its necessary.)
Oh, yeah. Pro-life.
By a long way.
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Zaza got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Not to mention forbidding abortion does nothing but increase the deaths due to illegal abortions - does not decrease the amount of abortions carried out.
Hardly. 50 years ago it was unheard of. Sure it was done illegally so it wasn't advertised, but people KNEW when their best friend got pregnant in high school and a week later "had a miscarriage". Not to mention pre-marital sex has skyrocketed as well.
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How.... Archon.... uughhhhhh:
Hardly. 50 years ago it was unheard of. Sure it was done illegally so it wasn't advertised, but people KNEW when their best friend got pregnant in high school and a week later "had a miscarriage". Not to mention pre-marital sex has skyrocketed as well.
Look at countries where it has been forbidden. Mostly third-world such, but generally illegal abortions have all but statistically replaced legal ones.
While the illegal ones probably wouldn't cause many deaths in a first-world country, people who really wanted to abort would find a way. It'd just move into the black market.
Having kids cant be Pro-Life because the Justice System is Pro-Life!
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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Archon had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Adoption. Or are YOU saying that parents who adopt are inferior to natural parents? ( I am aware that this may open a whole damn can of worms, but i feel its necessary.)Oh, yeah. Pro-life.
I believe that people that choose to adopt are in the majority of cases far superior parents, because the want children, and a mojority of adopters already have kids, but feel that they would like another, or it wouild do some good. However, there are far too few people willing to adopt, and far too many people having irresponsible sex and wanting others to take care of their responsibilities.
Case-in-point: A firend of mine is from a family with 5 children, and as the older ones move off to college and out of the house, the parents adopt kids to replace them, and the parents are now parents to 9 children, with no end visibly in sight. They just felt it would be just as easy to have 5 kids as 4, and they were already used to it, so why not?
but that is not the norm.
No, Really. Bite me.
My opinion: pro-choice. [ 11-16-2002: Message edited by: MadCat the 2nd ]
ben(at)netmastering(dot)nl
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MadCat the 2nd had this to say about pies:
[edit: no more dares.]My opinion: pro-choice.
Dootage. [ 11-16-2002: Message edited by: Vorbo Goatboy ]
The slogan is: "Because you don't know how ugly they are until they come out."
Actually I don't support abortions.
*Cracks his knuckles*
This'll be a fun debate.
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Rodent King stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
Pro-life here.*Cracks his knuckles*
This'll be a fun debate.
Only because you're wrong, and outnumbered.
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Nobody really understood why Delphi Aegis wrote:
Only because you're wrong, and outnumbered.
You still have at least an hour. Keep it civil until then.
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ACES! Another post by Delphi Aegis:
Only because you're wrong, and outnumbered.
ehh not neccessarily wrong. I may very very very strongly disagree... but they aren't neccessarily wrong.
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Rodent King had this to say about pies:
What time zone are we talking about?
I'd say the board clock.
From a less moral, more common sense standpoint, all the faux arguments listed above stand well.
So, yeah.
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We were all impressed when Rodent King wrote:
YOUR POST WAS AT 11:32!
And contained no arguments FOR or against abortion.
So there.
duuuude i like typing [ 11-16-2002: Message edited by: Veruca Salt ]
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
Don't make waves!
*Edit: wrong pic [ 11-16-2002: Message edited by: Rodent King ]
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The logic train ran off the tracks when Rodent King said:
Your post was to 'agree to disagree'.[IMGx]http://www.harmsy.freeuk.com/oimages/griddy.gif[/IMG]
Don't make waves!
OH GOD MY EYES X_X
Women have the choice to have sex, they've also got the choice to wear protection and take the risk of becoming pregnant.
The babies do NOT have the choice of being concieved. They are entitled however to the choice of their own lives. Ask ANY abused/poor/starving child if they want to die. You won't find any that truly do, if their lives were that bad they'd end it themselves some how. What you would find is a bunch of children that were dealt poor hands in life, but are generally thankful for the lives thay've got.
What I'm saying is that the woman's got the choice to create life, not to stop it. I'll finish with this quote from a pro-life speaker:
"Do you think the little babies being slaughtered in the womb would scream if they could?" [ 11-17-2002: Message edited by: Rodent King ]
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Rodent King's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
Time test.
Oh yeah, that's right, the board clock is fast. Heh, I was engrossed in SNL.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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This insanity brought to you by Karnaj:
Oh yeah, that's right, the board clock is fast. Heh, I was engrossed in SNL.
I love Brittany Murphy. ^_^
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Veruca Salt's account was hax0red to write:
I love Brittany Murphy. ^_^
"WHAT DID THEY SAY?"
"...you're gonna die."
So funny.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
"The Pro-Life people care about you most before you're born. And after you're born, they don't care at all."
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Soldar had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Now I say what George Carlin said on this topic. This is a completely butchered quote, and it summarizes."The Pro-Life people care about you most before you're born. And after you're born, they don't care at all."
Is that honestly your only defense of the slaughtering of children?
Obviously us pro-life people care about their lives more than the people trying to kill them. 
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Rodent King wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Is that honestly your only defense of the slaughtering of children?
No. That's just all I felt in contributing.
I'm not even completely set for one side or the other. It's just not my place to decide.
"Much of children's willingness to peresevere stems from ignorance of the alternatives."
Starving children, or those who have been left to fend for themselves, will act primarily based on instinct. And basic instinct is to survive, no matter the cost.
Edit: Stupid keyboard. [ 11-17-2002: Message edited by: MorbId ]
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Rodent King had this to say about dark elf butts:
Is that honestly your only defense of the slaughtering of children?Obviously us pro-life people care about their lives more than the people trying to kill them.
Well, they certainly don't care about the lives of the physicians, nurses, and aides they kill in their bombings/shootings.
I'm for potential argument. Until it starts breathing, feeling, and moving, its not alive, its just the potential for life. If it can survive on its own, then I think abortion should not be allowed. But I'm for it in the case that it is a)Teenage parent,b)rape victim,c)unable to financially/emotionally support child.
