quote:
This one time, at Lyinar Ka`Bael camp:
But wouldn't you think our group is being a little unreasonable? This is a group, yes, but it's not a clique. It's a messageboard, and a community. Shouldn't a community welcome new members as they are, rather than disliking them for trivial matters?
Who has shown open dislike? You seem to be the only one to have percieved hostility against the newbie, all I see is advice on how to fit in.
Like it or not, most people of this community appreciate good spelling, and while he might not be reamed for it, I'm not gonna read long jumbles of poor grammar, and neither is a good bunch of other people.
And why should I have to change that, just to adapt to this person?
*Gives everybody PIE!*
Pie > all angst and woes!
Yes, I know this is old and has been abused numerous times. But every time somebody does it, it works.
quote:Bzzzt, wrong.
Moffles thought about the meaning of life:
blahblah... it works.
quote:
Black Mage, after being too lazy to fully copy my post, sez:
Bzzzt, wrong.
*Promptly pulls out a small piece of paper and begins scribbling while quietly screaming "FUCK!" in a really tense voice*
now look, you've scared Slasher away. Buncha goddamn hippies.
quote:
Lyinar Ka`Bael stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
it's not a clique.
You're right. This is a community of many cliques of which most share one opinion: "aol speek" must die. [ 08-23-2002: Message edited by: Asha'man ]
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
quote:
We were all impressed when Lyinar Ka`Bael wrote:
But Vorbis, isn't it also impolite of us to be intolerant of his typing as that is his way of life?
If he's ESL, then maybe it would impolite. However, it is more impolite to demand that a community conform to you than a community giving, for the most part, kind suggestions on how to better fit in.
We're not asking him to be a different person, we're simply telling him that he can either be considerate to his audience and make an honest attempt or accept that he will be ignored because it is too much of an inconvenience.
One must remember, it is not job of the group to accept the individual, it is the individuals job to make themselves acceptable. It's the reason one must wear clothes outside - sure, being a nudist may be a way of life, but it's not the norm for society.
My post was far too rambling for my tastes. Parcelan was able to achieve the same spirit of my post in more clear terms. [ 08-23-2002: Message edited by: Vorbis of Pie ]
A method of typing is not a way of life. A religion is. A philosophy is. Not a way of typing, in my opinion at least.
We're not forcing him to change religions or anything drastic. We're not even forcing him to do anything. We're simply suggesting ways of becoming accepted by the group.
Just as he has the right to not care about grammar and spelling, we have the right to ignore his posts. And many of us will.
All we gave was a simple suggestion that if he chooses to not conform to the group, the group will not conform to him.
It doesn't strike me as unreasonable at all.
quote:
King Parcelan had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
It seems to me that we're blowing this a little out of proportion.A method of typing is not a way of life. A religion is. A philosophy is. Not a way of typing, in my opinion at least.
We're not forcing him to change religions or anything drastic. We're not even forcing him to do anything. We're simply suggesting ways of becoming accepted by the group.
Just as he has the right to not care about grammar and spelling, we have the right to ignore his posts. And many of us will.
All we gave was a simple suggestion that if he chooses to not conform to the group, the group will not conform to him.
It doesn't strike me as unreasonable at all.
Here here!
quote:
King Parcelan declared jihad with peanut butter after typing:It seems to me that we're blowing this a little out of proportion.
A method of typing is not a way of life. A religion is. A philosophy is. Not a way of typing, in my opinion at least.We're not forcing him to change religions or anything drastic. We're not even forcing him to do anything. We're simply suggesting ways of becoming accepted by the group.
Just as he has the right to not care about grammar and spelling, we have the right to ignore his posts. And many of us will.
All we gave was a simple suggestion that if he chooses to not conform to the group, the group will not conform to him.
It doesn't strike me as unreasonable at all.
...
Indeed.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
I'm not denying him anything, I'm not telling him how to type. I fail to see how Slasher has been raked over coals, flamed or even harshly treated by anyone.
Nice, non-hostile advice was given on how to be accepted into this community. I don't think the suggestions were presented as a demand. Telling him he would be ignored or be an outcast to the majority is only the truth, it wasn't a threat or a flame.
It is my belief this is a silly debate.
Have a nice day.
Not yielding at all would be us flaming him relentlessly and saying: "You are not welcome unless you type properly!"
As it stands, we welcome him, but tell him that he will not be truly accepted unless he types in a manner pleasing to all the members.
We're not bending over backwards, but we're certainly not being unreasonable.
Haven't there been people here that type bad just because we have a reputation for going down heavy on it? Without that reputation, they would have no need to not type in a grammatically correct manner.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
At this point, it seems more like we are agreeing to disagree. He can type the way he wants to, but he shouldn't expect us to read it.
There is no need to develop more tolerant behavior towards it when we are quite tolerant as it is. We do not flame him for the way he speaks, we just do not acknowledge him.
I, for one, refuse to budge on the fact that if someone wishes to speak he should speak properly. It is a matter of principle to me.
quote:
When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Lyinar Ka`Bael said:
Point taken on the yielding, but I still disagree that we should even make an issue of how he types. I think if we develop a more tolerant attitude toward it, it could only be for the better.Haven't there been people here that type bad just because we have a reputation for going down heavy on it? Without that reputation, they would have no need to not type in a grammatically correct manner.
I believe it was Slasher that made it an issue, which it can be construed that he sought out to make it an issue. Even Parce, who's had a reputation for being hard against poor-spellers was more than tolerant.
There were merely kindly suggestions that spelling and grammar are regarded as good whereas no one takes kindly to lack thereof - especially if it is purposefully done.
Infact, if one were to be very anal about finding the first "flame", it would have come from Lyinar or Slasher - all though neither were really all that "flameful".
Overall, I'd say we've been perfectly tolerant.
I'm glad we were all able to have a civil discussion in this thread without it turning into a flamewar. It's been quite enjoyable, and I'd continue it, but I have a GURPS game starting soon and couldn't give it the sort of attention it deserves.
So we'll leave it there, and not spoil the pleasantness. [ 08-23-2002: Message edited by: Lyinar Ka`Bael ]
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
lololo Humor disclaimer, or a "Don't flame me because I said something stupid disclaimer. You know what? This is a love disclaimer. That's much better.
Not like waking up and finding out all your underwear has been in the freezer all night or something.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
yo, wutz up slasher-bro. we'z don't need no AOL types commin round 'ere to mess up da bords or ne thign, ya know? so usin da ed.it buttin helps.
Now that I've finished my extremely hard on the eyes writing, welcome to the boards slasher. I hope you got the jist of my small statement. 
have fun posting
quote:
Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about dark elf butts:
Do I even want to know how you managed that?
Well you see, there was this sleep-over party and there were no spaces left in my room, neighboring kitchen, and I think the bathroom tub was occupied. Logical decision was the deepfreeze.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
And the floors were lined with sleeping bags.
Trust me, at the time, it made perfect sense.
quote:
Praetor Liam's fortune cookie read:
I literally fell asleep in a deep freezer once. No kidding.
brrrrr
I was just a bit confused.
It sounded liked you'd gone from bed-tub-kitchen counter straight to deepfreeze or something 
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
quote:
Lyinar Ka`Bael spewed forth this undeniable truth:
Point taken on the yielding, but I still disagree that we should even make an issue of how he types. I think if we develop a more tolerant attitude toward it, it could only be for the better.Haven't there been people here that type bad just because we have a reputation for going down heavy on it? Without that reputation, they would have no need to not type in a grammatically correct manner.
Look at practically any other message board out there. Most of them don't care about grammar and whatnot (like Slasher). Nearly every single one of aforementioned boards type in AOL sp34k. I don't know if you just never frequent other message boards than EC, but your logic doesn't work in the real world. Unfortunately. :/
quote:
Giantt had this to say about Captain Planet:
Look at practically any other message board out there. Most of them don't care about grammar and whatnot (like Slasher). Nearly every single one of aforementioned boards type in AOL sp34k. I don't know if you just never frequent other message boards than EC, but your logic doesn't work in the real world. Unfortunately. :/
Dude, the arguement's over, we're being cool and friendly with Lyinar again. Where have you been? geez.
[ 08-23-2002: Message edited by: D© ]
quote:
Check out the big brain on Praetor Liam!
Dude, the arguement's over, we're being cool and friendly with Lyinar again. Where have you been? geez.
quote:
When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Praetor Liam said:
Well I was 12, and It was kinda a dare.And the floors were lined with sleeping bags.
Trust me, at the time, it made perfect sense.
I was there =/ He really did sleep in there. I dont know about the whole night, but he was in there for a fair amount of time.
This was not a test.
