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Suddar
posted 08-17-2002 03:39:35 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Zephyer was all like:
No, he already did that. Along with my planets, my sector, my ship, and Arrenn. Now he must die.

i've got some credits, found you parked in <sector removed>. your ship is looking kind of sickly, if you need some help getting back on your feet, i can't do very much until i get more turns anyway.

Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 08-17-2002 03:47:30 PM
quote:
hard technology rock had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
i've got some credits, found you parked in <sector removed>. your ship is looking kind of sickly, if you need some help getting back on your feet, i can't do very much until i get more turns anyway.

My ship is, in fact, very sickly, and I don't have a home base anymore. I have alot of rebuilding to do...

So much to do, so few turns...

The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 08-17-2002 03:52:44 PM
If you're so starved for turns, and your average tech level is below 8, just park in Sol sector, and wait two days. You'll have all the turns you need.
Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 08-17-2002 03:56:25 PM
Done and done! In a couple days I'll return to the universe, and start rebuilding, I guess...
The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Suddar
posted 08-17-2002 03:57:45 PM
quote:
Nobody really understood why Zephyer wrote:
My ship is, in fact, very sickly, and I don't have a home base anymore. I have alot of rebuilding to do...

So much to do, so few turns...


check your bank account, and your messages.

by the way, the link i mentioned is one-way. your engines look good enough to do a RS, but i'd rather be sure.

[ 08-17-2002: Message edited by: hard technology rock ]

Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 08-17-2002 04:09:34 PM
Odd...I don't seem to have any messages waiting for me...

...My bank account's another story altogether, though!

That'll definitely help me get up and running!

The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Suddar
posted 08-17-2002 04:10:33 PM
i hope i sent it to the right person, else i'll feel like an idiot.
Tristan
Vidi, vici, veni.
Nae's Stooge
posted 08-17-2002 04:15:58 PM
How much money should I be makeing per trade?

right now I have 14 hull, and I make ~500k per trade..

Veni, vidi, vici
Suddar
posted 08-17-2002 04:17:07 PM
zeph, i sent another. if you still didn't get it, i also PMed you the text.
Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 08-17-2002 04:17:34 PM
I'm still not getting the message...but the money went to a nice new hull! I owe you one!
The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Suddar
posted 08-17-2002 04:18:37 PM
check your PMs, it has some info you may find useful.

now, just try to stay alive.

Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 08-17-2002 04:24:10 PM
Message recieved!

It's nice to know there are still SOME benevolent people in the universe. I shall do my best to recover.

The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Suddar
posted 08-17-2002 04:30:30 PM
if you want another in your alliance, i'm open to invitation.

i haven't got much to offer, but so long as you're there, my space might as well be yours.

Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 08-17-2002 04:36:30 PM
quote:
hard technology rock thought about the meaning of life:
if you want another in your alliance, i'm open to invitation.

i haven't got much to offer, but so long as you're there, my space might as well be yours.


You are most welcome in my alliance! The invite is sent. Glad to have you aboard.

The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Suddar
posted 08-17-2002 04:38:23 PM
gracious!
Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 08-17-2002 04:41:16 PM
Let's kill!
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 08-17-2002 04:45:58 PM
quote:
Fennar obviously shouldn't have said:
How much money should I be makeing per trade?

right now I have 14 hull, and I make ~500k per trade..


Thats decent. Dont use the sector 3/76 route, though. That one's so bloody degraded its not funny. You dont notice degredation much below hull 17.. but when you're pulling in 10-15 mil/route, it goes down fast. Fifty repeats and yer done, really.

Best to have two or more out of the way routes once you get your engines up.

Mightion Defensor
posted 08-17-2002 05:19:26 PM
quote:
The logic train ran off the tracks when Delphi Aegis said:
Thats decent. Dont use the sector 3/76 route, though. That one's so bloody degraded its not funny. You dont notice degredation much below hull 17.. but when you're pulling in 10-15 mil/route, it goes down fast. Fifty repeats and yer done, really.

Best to have two or more out of the way routes once you get your engines up.


Hmmm... at hull 19, my personal trade routes pull in about 5.2 mil. The new one I just made to test pulls in 5.3.

Guess they don't degrade much if only one person uses them...

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 08-17-2002 06:05:39 PM
quote:
How.... Mooj.... uughhhhhh:
Hey, Drysart, one quick recommendation for the Fantasy version of the game you're working with.

Systems, or the equivilent to systems, need some sort of feature to keep players above certain levels (Tech, spells, attributes, whatever ) out of them. Conquest is a very good game, but the players with lower tech levels and cash are completely at the mercy of the higher leveled people. Until there's some way to protect the players, the game is horribly unbalanced. Let's face it, there's a lot of simple griefing going on right now.

Just my two cents.


I tend to agree with this. It's a big galaxy out there, I'll admit. Lots of zones to hide in, but I've been buzzing around like a fruit fly and it took Arrenn to tell me last night where another Special port was when I miscalculated my tech level and accidentally notched myself to an average TL around 8.4.

I then ran around the universe making trades when I felt bold, waiting every day to log in and discover that someone had annihilated my ship. I don't have any planets yet, I paid a toll to Lashanna and still got plowed by her ambient mine field (thank god I'd stocked up on mine deflectors before sector 0 stopped doing business with me), and several times I bumped into sectors where I got a warning that entering would involve paying a toll or fighting (or raising my cloak and praying, pretty much).

And now I hear Arrenn and Zephyer, people in my alliance (Zeph, Arrenn invited me in last night, which I accepted, and said I could land my ship on the alliance planet...I'm glad I didn't. I'll help rebuild, though, of course) got blasted to smithereens by someone and their planets were taken. Look at the point scores for Zeph and Arrenn. Look at the point score for me.

I have been and continue to be running scared through the universe. I don't camp every single tick of the clock and I really don't think I should have to if I want to survive. I check in once, maybe twice a day (once three times). It's a fun game and I love it dearly...but I have to agree with Mooj in that there should be expanded protection for casual and newb players if you're going to step up the rate of ticks so that it's not "Everyone gets X number of Ticks, refilled at X hour of the day". If I die on those terms, it's cool. Not everyone wants to or is able to camp the game in order to enjoy it.

Also, and I know you have better things to do with your time than code in things for this game, especially if you're working on a fantasy rewrite, but there needs to be stiffer penalties for pirates. I haven't been a victim yet of course, and truly I bear no ill will to Bajah or Suchii or any of the NPU, but grief playing is grief playing. Just because there's nothing in the rules to make it realistic doesn't make it right.

I *COULD* avoid Suchii and Bajah's sectors. But I'd end up Long-Range-Scanning every single sector in the game. At which point I've blown all my moves for the day, have made zippo money, and haven't upgraded my ship. The fact that they don't venture far from their territory doesn't comfort me if I accidentally blunder into it while blindly stumbling around.

Or maybe I'm just whining and worrying over nothing.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Il Buono
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend.
posted 08-17-2002 06:09:54 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about Captain Planet:
Big Honkin' Essay.

Stick near trade routes in federation space, you can't be attacked in a Federation controlled sector.

Finding a place to log out is a completely different matter, but I'd advise making an empty planet and landing on it to log. No one fucks with an empty planet, it's a waste of resources (especially a Genesis torp to destroy it).

"Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 08-17-2002 06:10:58 PM
Well, Im not a leet trader, so if I whomp a lilun, that 100M bounty on my head not only earns me enemies, but puts a serious dent in my wallet. And on another note, if you individually scan sectors, it doesnt take turns. If you do a full scan, it does.
Arrenn Lightblade
Yes. Yes he is.
posted 08-17-2002 06:16:19 PM
I wouldn't be so angry about losing my ship, or even my game, if I could use my email and remake. But I can't, because it is in use.
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 08-17-2002 06:21:35 PM
Also, Deth, 'scan' uses no turn.

FULL scan uses 1 turn. 'Scan' only scans 1 warp link from a sector. Full scan scans them all.

Moral of the story? Scanning each link may be slower and more annoying than scanning everything all at once, but it's also much safer.

Also, the biggest reason that people join alliances is for mutual protection. If you're in an alliance, I would recommend having all three of you in one sector. That way all three can help guard it. You may still have troubles with three low-scorers all at once, but it'll be three times as good as one person solo.

BTW, there are 'deterrants' for people attacking obscenely low scorers. The whole 'federation bounty' system is supposed to be what prevents people like Khrynn (Me) from attacking people like you.

The bounties just aren't severe enough.

nem-x
posted 08-17-2002 06:28:52 PM
quote:
Khyron obviously shouldn't have said:

The bounties just aren't severe enough.


My ass!

Pvednes
Lynched
posted 08-17-2002 08:42:48 PM
There needs to be a descriptive message type thing for the destruction of planets.
Bajah
Thooooooor
posted 08-17-2002 09:05:51 PM
quote:
Dr. Pvednes, PhD wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
There needs to be a descriptive message type thing for the destruction of planets.

Bajah backhands Pvednes across the room again.
Hireko
Kill a fish before breakfast each day
posted 08-17-2002 09:24:21 PM
Thanks everyone for your help with the planets and bases and armour. It helped me a lot when I logged in today.
Those who dance are thought insane by those who can't hear the music.
Pvednes
Lynched
posted 08-17-2002 09:43:54 PM
quote:
Bajah had this to say about Duck Tales:

Bajah backhands Pvednes across the room again.

Get over it.

They weren't even your planets. And since the NPU had taken over my planets earlier, and that I was not then informed about the temporary alliance, let's call that even.

[ 08-17-2002: Message edited by: Dr. Pvednes, PhD ]

Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 08-17-2002 09:52:00 PM
quote:
Dr. Pvednes, PhD had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Get over it.

They weren't even your planets. And since the NPU had taken over my planets earlier, and that I was not then informed about the temporary alliance, let's call that even.


The NPU didnt. They took them before they joined the NPU. Otherwise, Bajah would've smackethed them down or summat.

Pvednes
Lynched
posted 08-17-2002 09:55:01 PM
That excuse retracted.

Replacement. I was not informed, and I like blowing things up.

Za’afiel
Coolest Hamster Pimp Ever!
posted 08-17-2002 10:09:52 PM
quote:
nem-x's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:

My ass!

yeah, 300 mil set me back a bit

"Consistancy is the hobgoblin of little minds."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 08-18-2002 04:23:55 AM
Well, I finally started in it.

I'm not telling you chuckleheads who I am, though.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 08-18-2002 05:47:24 AM
The New Person travelling with Deth maybe?
(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
Comrade Snoota
Communist
Da, Tovarisch!
posted 08-18-2002 06:52:24 AM
quote:
Elvish Crack Piper was naked while typing this:
The New Person travelling with Deth maybe?

Stop talking that crazy talk!

You smell that? Do you smell that? ...Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.
very important poster
a sweet title
posted 08-18-2002 08:04:19 AM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Lyinar Ka`Bael wrote:
Well, I finally started in it.

I'm not telling you chuckleheads who I am, though.


Hello, Kadiya.

hey
Lenlalron Flameblaster
posted 08-18-2002 10:04:24 AM
So...how do I get 'good'? I've been at -8 since like the beginning of the game, when I blew up Willias.
Grammar is your enemy! - While being able to understand someone's sentences might seem like a good idea for a proper essay, complaining on a forum scarcely leaves time for such trivialities. Write fast! You're angry, grrr! Make that show, and forget about things like capital letters, punctuation, and verbs.
Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 08-18-2002 11:13:10 AM
I'm not traveling with Deth.

I'm still hiding away in like Sector 0


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 08-18-2002 11:53:40 AM
quote:
Lenlalron had this to say about pies:
So...how do I get 'good'? I've been at -8 since like the beginning of the game, when I blew up Willias.

Blow up evil people. I sorta took all of them though.

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 08-18-2002 11:57:20 AM
I like the bank.

Planetarion didn't have a bank, so if you got attacked and blown up, your money went bye bye with you.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Mightion Defensor
posted 08-18-2002 12:16:51 PM
Ah, but money doesn't gain interest in a bank...

Then again, it's impossible for a bank to be conquered and looted...

(Genesis torps are neat! They install an ATM terminal too! Boy, that one on each planet must get crowded...)

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