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Mightion Defensor
posted 08-16-2002 08:26:23 PM
Wow... Suchii hasn't logged in in three days, which means she will prolly be near max turns...

Consider that.

Oh, and for those that are curious about my ship, all I will say is 17.14.

A reckless, impatient part of me wants to see how it does in combat, but it's not my nature to attack unprovoked.

Ah, the benefits of staying neutral and building up a (x) planet empire....

very important poster
a sweet title
posted 08-16-2002 09:09:14 PM
quote:
So quoth Mightion Defensor:
Wow... Suchii hasn't logged in in three days, which means she will prolly be near max turns...

She hit 2500 turns a good while ago, so essentially she's losing turns as we speak

hey
Tristan
Vidi, vici, veni.
Nae's Stooge
posted 08-16-2002 10:25:24 PM
Drysart needs to up the turns per tick to a min of 4, with something like 6 being ideal.
Veni, vidi, vici
nem-x
posted 08-16-2002 10:41:09 PM
quote:
Verily, Fennar doth proclaim:
Drysart needs to up the turns per tick to a min of 4, with something like 6 being ideal.

I concur.

Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 08-16-2002 10:46:48 PM
Just stop camping every 6 minutes for turns, and log like twice a day.

It's hard, I know

Majox
Pancake
posted 08-16-2002 10:47:59 PM
How about 3 per hour while I'm on vacation. Then 6 turns a tick sounds good.
I just make ideas, I don't make them good. - Me
Tristan
Vidi, vici, veni.
Nae's Stooge
posted 08-16-2002 11:07:42 PM
quote:
Tier the Genius™ thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Just stop camping every 6 minutes for turns, and log like twice a day.

It's hard, I know


Not gonna happen.

Veni, vidi, vici
Za’afiel
Coolest Hamster Pimp Ever!
posted 08-17-2002 12:14:08 AM
i just opened a can of whoopass on Mooj

after i took 3 of his big planets

(nothing personal mooj, just a pirate's work)

"Consistancy is the hobgoblin of little minds."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 08-17-2002 12:14:57 AM
Hey, Drysart, one quick recommendation for the Fantasy version of the game you're working with.

Systems, or the equivilent to systems, need some sort of feature to keep players above certain levels (Tech, spells, attributes, whatever ) out of them. Conquest is a very good game, but the players with lower tech levels and cash are completely at the mercy of the higher leveled people. Until there's some way to protect the players, the game is horribly unbalanced. Let's face it, there's a lot of simple griefing going on right now.

Just my two cents.

Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 08-17-2002 12:18:06 AM
quote:
Hamster Mack Boo had this to say about Duck Tales:
i just opened a can of whoopass on Mooj

after i took 3 of his big planets

(nothing personal mooj, just a pirate's work)


Hate to say it, Boo, but that's exactly what I'm talking about in my previous post. Roleplaying a thief (Or a pirate, in this case) does not give you the right to attack or steal at your whim until there's some sort of police feature added to the game that works and works reasonably well.

No ill will against you or anything, but I don't see games where such griefing is so easy to be something I should play. Enjoy the planets, they should be very good resource worlds for you.

Oh, and check your messages.

Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 08-17-2002 12:23:35 AM
quote:
How.... Mooj.... uughhhhhh:
Hate to say it, Boo, but that's exactly what I'm talking about in my previous post. Roleplaying a thief (Or a pirate, in this case) does not give you the right to attack or steal at your whim until there's some sort of police feature added to the game that works and works reasonably well.

No ill will against you or anything, but I don't see games where such griefing is so easy to be something I should play. Enjoy the planets, they should be very good resource worlds for you.

Oh, and check your messages.


yeah, there is a police system. Its called bounties.

with a fed bounty, you cant trade a special ports, so all fighters and torps have to come from planets, and one cant upgrade or replace armor at all.

Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 08-17-2002 12:27:21 AM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Tegadil:
yeah, there is a police system. Its called bounties.

with a fed bounty, you cant trade a special ports, so all fighters and torps have to come from planets, and one cant upgrade or replace armor at all.


And that would work well, except for the fact that once someone has such a high level ship, they can go around taking planets and have no need to upgrade further. Need fighters? Grab some from someone else's planet.

Or in the case of some people, have someone who doesn't have a bounty on them pick up all the fighters and torps you need, and leave them on one of your planets for you.

Drive through and please have a better arguement ready if you should refute this.

Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 08-17-2002 12:31:48 AM
quote:
From the book of Mooj, chapter 3, verse 16:
And that would work well, except for the fact that once someone has such a high level ship, they can go around taking planets and have no need to upgrade further. Need fighters? Grab some from someone else's planet.

Or in the case of some people, have someone who doesn't have a bounty on them pick up all the fighters and torps you need, and leave them on one of your planets for you.

Drive through and please have a better arguement ready if you should refute this.



Taking fighters from other planets is nigh impossible, because you have to destroy them all to take em anyways. Taking planets can take a heavy toll on fighters, and replenishing can leave a system defenceless. The big issue however, is armor. There is NO way to replace it unless you pay off the bounty.

[ 08-17-2002: Message edited by: Tegadil ]

nem-x
posted 08-17-2002 12:35:15 AM
First of all, I think that low tech'd players can still defend very well against high tech'd people. You can shuttle an infinite amount of fighters/torps to your planet and make it untouchable. 500k should be enough to deter any would-be attacker.

The real problem is that this should NOT be possible. The maximum amount of fighters/torps on a planet should be proportional to your Computer/Torp tech levels to make it more fair. Once a person transfers a few ship loads of fighters/torps to their planet, it CANNOT be attacked without the attacker dying.

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 08-17-2002 12:59:41 AM
quote:
nem-x had this to say about Cuba:
First of all, I think that low tech'd players can still defend very well against high tech'd people. You can shuttle an infinite amount of fighters/torps to your planet and make it untouchable. 500k should be enough to deter any would-be attacker.

The real problem is that this should NOT be possible. The maximum amount of fighters/torps on a planet should be proportional to your Computer/Torp tech levels to make it more fair. Once a person transfers a few ship loads of fighters/torps to their planet, it CANNOT be attacked without the attacker dying.


I think Nem was disapointed when he scanned my planet at first, saw it had like 20k fighters/torps, then came back to destroy it to find out I had quadrupled defences.. Hehe.

Or it could be a serious discrepency. Either way, umm.. Shit. I dunno. This post has no point.

nem-x
posted 08-17-2002 01:10:53 AM
I wasn't going to attack it anyways. 200k fighters is enough to keep me away. No sense in risking it.

And I started a BNT page. I'll be putting up all the general information tomorrow, then I'll put like a... strategy page or something.

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 08-17-2002 01:20:07 AM
Very nice page, Nem.

Looking at the stats, I'd have to have at least 20 million fighters/torps before I could be safe to the point that nobody save someone with billions upon trillions of dollars with upgrades reaching into the higher 30s would dare attack me. But by the time someone gets that high, I'd have double that anyway.

Mightion Defensor
posted 08-17-2002 01:21:05 AM
What about having an obscene amount of energy on the planet, to keep the shields powered? Won't they have to blow through the shields, first?
Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 08-17-2002 01:39:13 AM
quote:
Tegadil's account was hax0red to write:
yeah, there is a police system. Its called bounties.

with a fed bounty, you cant trade a special ports, so all fighters and torps have to come from planets, and one cant upgrade or replace armor at all.


And this system is easily abused as well, and is being abused as it is.


My LAUNCHCast Station
"Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
I got lost for an hour and became god.
Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 08-17-2002 02:02:14 AM
quote:
Nobody really understood why Faelynn LeAndris wrote:
And this system is easily abused as well, and is being abused as it is.

How is it abused?

Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 08-17-2002 02:25:28 AM
Hmm...interesting. As I scan the Rankings, I see that Tegadil beats Tori out as the most evil person in the universe.

I'm the seventh 'good'est.

The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Kinanik
Upset about being titless
posted 08-17-2002 04:13:47 AM
I'm #2
Gully Foyle is my name
And Terra is my nation
Deep space is my dwelling place
The stars my destination
Hireko
Kill a fish before breakfast each day
posted 08-17-2002 05:11:01 AM
I need some help. I read the posts here and I feel like I'm missing most of the game, lol. (Even if that part of the game consists of getting blow up a lot, hehe.)

Parts I Understand:

Making money
Upgrading my ship
Getting interest at the bank
Getting kicked out of Federation space
Avoiding sectors with bad things
Collecting energy by RS travel

Parts I really don't get:
Planets
Bases
Attacking people

I can't seem to make my planets start doing anything - does this require a base?

Or in the words of my favorite Gladiator character - "Those giraffes you sold me... they won't breed. You sold me queer giraffes."

And what's the difference between buying armour on the bottom of the Special Ports and buying it with other level based upgrades?

Do you get anything useful for attacking others?

Whats the end goal of the game? Being rich?

Those who dance are thought insane by those who can't hear the music.
Pvednes
Lynched
posted 08-17-2002 05:22:22 AM
quote:
A sleep deprived Hireko FishSlayer stammered:
Parts I really don't get:
Planets
Bases
Attacking people

I can't seem to make my planets start doing anything - does this require a base?

Or in the words of my favorite Gladiator character - "Those giraffes you sold me... they won't breed. You sold me queer giraffes."

And what's the difference between buying armour on the bottom of the Special Ports and buying it with other level based upgrades?

Do you get anything useful for attacking others?

Whats the end goal of the game? Being rich?


Planets require colonists to do anything at all. Colonise to 25 million people. Their natural instincts will fill the remaining room. ("On my signal, fuck!")
To get colonists to produce money, make their productions under 100%. the remainding percentage will make money.

A base is required to fire torpedos from the planet, to cut the commodity limits, and also to control the sector. a base on 3 planets in one sector controls the sector.

Attacking people and their planets gets you (if you win) some of their stuff, and knocks them back a fair bit. The armour at the bottom are the armour points. The tech determines how much of something you can buy.

The general goal is getting as high up the ladder you can.

Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 08-17-2002 05:23:25 AM
quote:
We were all impressed when Hireko FishSlayer wrote:
I need some help. I read the posts here and I feel like I'm missing most of the game, lol. (Even if that part of the game consists of getting blow up a lot, hehe.)

Parts I Understand:

Making money
Upgrading my ship
Getting interest at the bank
Getting kicked out of Federation space
Avoiding sectors with bad things
Collecting energy by RS travel

Parts I really don't get:
Planets
Bases
Attacking people

I can't seem to make my planets start doing anything - does this require a base?

Or in the words of my favorite Gladiator character - "Those giraffes you sold me... they won't breed. You sold me queer giraffes."

And what's the difference between buying armour on the bottom of the Special Ports and buying it with other level based upgrades?

Do you get anything useful for attacking others?

Whats the end goal of the game? Being rich?


You need a base and colonists for your planets to really do anything.

The armour upgrade is how much armour you can have. You still have to purchase armour points.

There may be something to gain from attacking others, but I'm just too good to resort to petty piracy.

You're close. The point is to be rich, and not get killed doing it.

The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
nem-x
posted 08-17-2002 05:49:03 AM
My webpage host seems to have gone down for now, I'll post when it's back up. In the mean time, I'll keep adding information to the page.
Lenlalron Flameblaster
posted 08-17-2002 05:57:20 AM
Question.

Why is one of my planets being repediately hit with space plague/energy storm?

Grammar is your enemy! - While being able to understand someone's sentences might seem like a good idea for a proper essay, complaining on a forum scarcely leaves time for such trivialities. Write fast! You're angry, grrr! Make that show, and forget about things like capital letters, punctuation, and verbs.
Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 08-17-2002 06:18:41 AM
quote:
Lenlalron stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
Question.

Why is one of my planets being repediately hit with space plague/energy storm?


Because the universe hates you.

[ 08-17-2002: Message edited by: Zephyer ]

The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Lenlalron Flameblaster
posted 08-17-2002 06:30:43 AM
quote:
Zephyer's fortune cookie read:
Because the universe hates you.


I'm going to kick the universe's sorry butt.

Grammar is your enemy! - While being able to understand someone's sentences might seem like a good idea for a proper essay, complaining on a forum scarcely leaves time for such trivialities. Write fast! You're angry, grrr! Make that show, and forget about things like capital letters, punctuation, and verbs.
nem-x
posted 08-17-2002 06:31:32 AM
Willias
Pancake
posted 08-17-2002 10:53:06 AM
So... anyone want me in thier alliance?
Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 08-17-2002 11:10:05 AM
quote:
From the book of Willias, chapter 3, verse 16:
So... anyone want me in thier alliance?

Gimme your sector. I'll invite you in.

very important poster
a sweet title
posted 08-17-2002 12:10:09 PM
quote:
Tier the Genius™ thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Gimme your sector. I'll invite you in.

I'll he-...uh, I mean...sanction it!

hey
Bajah
Thooooooor
posted 08-17-2002 12:46:10 PM
quote:
How.... Mightion Defensor.... uughhhhhh:
That's ALL?

Note to self: Build oodles more fighters and torps.

Humor disclaimer. Suchii and Bajah are my friends.


That's just the leftover crap I tossed up into the sector to ward off wandering idiots

Arrenn Lightblade
Yes. Yes he is.
posted 08-17-2002 12:50:36 PM
BAH! I was in me and zeph's alliance territory, and then I am killed. Federation refuses to clone me, so now my email address cannot be used, and I can't play.
Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 08-17-2002 01:01:14 PM
quote:
When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Lenlalron said:
Question.

Why is one of my planets being repediately hit with space plague/energy storm?


Something about planetary apocolypse. Check here.

Hireko
Kill a fish before breakfast each day
posted 08-17-2002 01:15:51 PM
Thanks guys, that is very helpful.
Those who dance are thought insane by those who can't hear the music.
Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 08-17-2002 03:10:57 PM
Timpo must DIE!!!
The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 08-17-2002 03:24:16 PM
quote:
Zephyer said this about your mom:
Timpo must EAT MY COOKIES!!!
Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 08-17-2002 03:27:41 PM
No, he already did that. Along with my planets, my sector, my ship, and Arrenn. Now he must die.
The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
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