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Mortious's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
It looks like sugar, doesn't it. How can you leave it out and expect kids not to take a handful?
Eeeexactly! 
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Black Mage... had this to say about the Spice Girls:
Bait.
I found this very funny.
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"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
There is no justification for what you did, honestly, and the quicker you move on, the quicker you title will change. 
Continuing attempts to defend the indefensible, or to tell others how "mean" they're being, won't help. Quite the opposite.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Lady Delirium thought about the meaning of life:
this is..sick. i know people shouldn't do these things..and thats partly why i did. it isnt something people should joke about..im sure im not the only one whose ever been hurt before, or atleast tried to hurt themselves. im not going to sit here and tell you what to do, but all i can do is ask you to be a little more understanding of the situation..i didnt post about my so called attempted suicide, i posted about my father, to which i got some helpful answers. people asked me what i did to get a better understanding of the situation. nothing more. nothing less.
Understand?
There is nothing to understand about pure stupidity.
Drinking Bleach = Stupid... No More, No Less. I for one, dont respond well to that sort of stuff. I'm sure others feel the same.
Now... Point me to the Jedi Academy. I want to be Yoda some day.
oints at bane's house::
Maybe... not doing stuff like that might help improve your relationship with your father. Doing stuff like that gets you his attention, yes, but it's not GOOD attentions. Maybe that could be a part of the problem as well? Maybe that could be part of 'how to improve your relationship with your father'?
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im not going to sit here and tell you what to do, but all i can do is ask you to be a little more understanding of the situation..i didnt post about my so called attempted suicide, i posted about my father, to which i got some helpful answers. people asked me what i did to get a better understanding of the situation. nothing more. nothing less.
Since what I would have said has already been said, I'll just say that I'm behind Drysart and Piper 200%.
I tried to end my life a few times, and I finally smartenend up after the 3rd time. I'm not going to say how I tried, but I know for a fact that you don't do it and live if it wasn't for attention. I did mine for attention, and I didn't get the kind that I wanted but I did get attention. I fucked up my health bad for awhile, and I'm still paying for some of the stupid shit that I did back then. I honestly hope that you remember what you've done and it haunts you for the rest of your life, that's the only way that you'll realize that you went about it the wrong way.
I do not put up with this shit anymore, and I refuse to socialize with someone who has and I freely tell everyone who even jokes about this shit. Remember that you always have the choice, and saying that you don't is only a way of trying to keep your friends and get more attention.
No one forced the bleach down your throat, and I personally don't feel someone should hold your hand so that you can get help. You're the only one able to make that decision for yourself.
Warning: The following post contains MASSIVE quantities of sarcasm!
Much flamage here hmm...? I see BS is looking for a fight and up to his usual tricks...yup, there's Parcelan and his two cents...Ahh Drysart and Piper and others seem to have erupted in self-righteous indignity. Out of curiosity, how is it that you can be held responsible hmm Drysart...? Guilty conscience pricking perhaps. Dear Lady Piper, such a fitting title. Interesting. Very interesting. I like the way a great many of you jump down Lady D's throat when she reaches out for help and advice and flame her for what she's done when its clear she's already moved past further consideration of suicide. Very patriotic/heroic. We should all stand by your shining example and crush the weak. Less mouths to feed after all. Why don't we expand on that thought. Surely, by the precedent you have so wisely put forth, we should all tread the path of brutality and callousness. Children should no longer be sent to school, instead, they should be sold and made to fight for our amusement, like any common animal. Those who are injured and cannot care for themselves should be slain and put out of their misery, since they are after all, a burden. Civilized conversation, diplomacy, currency, and law should all be cast aside in favor of the ancient maxim "The survival of the Fittest." Ahh yes, let us abide by these glorious ideals as put forth by the insensitive! Surely the human race will become a thing of greatness!
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Why don't you have any of your "MASSIVE SARCASM" for those who encourage such stupid, dangerous stunts by responding to the manipulation so easily?
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Star Collective must have had his head up his ass when he said:
[sarcastic rant]Warning: The following post contains MASSIVE quantities of sarcasm!
Much flamage here hmm...? I see BS is looking for a fight and up to his usual tricks...yup, there's Parcelan and his two cents...Ahh Drysart and Piper and others seem to have erupted in self-righteous indignity.Out of curiosity, how is it that you can be held responsible hmm Drysart...? Guilty conscience pricking perhaps. Dear Lady Piper, such a fitting title. Interesting. Very interesting. I like the way a great many of you jump down Lady D's throat when she reaches out for help and advice and flame her for what she's done when its clear she's already moved past further consideration of suicide. Very patriotic/heroic. We should all stand by your shining example and crush the weak. Less mouths to feed after all. Why don't we expand on that thought. Surely, by the precedent you have so wisely put forth, we should all tread the path of brutality and callousness. Children should no longer be sent to school, instead, they should be sold and made to fight for our amusement, like any common animal. Those who are injured and cannot care for themselves should be slain and put out of their misery, since they are after all, a burden. Civilized conversation, diplomacy, currency, and law should all be cast aside in favor of the ancient maxim "The survival of the Fittest." Ahh yes, let us abide by these glorious ideals as put forth by the insensitive! Surely the human race will become a thing of greatness!
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So quoth Bloodsage:
Rezzing a thread just to be self-righteous is rarely a good idea.
So is enclosing one's drivel in "sarcasm" tags like some sort of phase cycling shield meant to outwit the Borg? phh
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Bloodsage had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Did you even bother reading the first page of this thread? Or were you just too busy forcing people into stereotypes to bother?Why don't you have any of your "MASSIVE SARCASM" for those who encourage such stupid, dangerous stunts by responding to the manipulation so easily?
Actually BS, I'm beginning to wonder if you even bothered to read the first page or my post. Where pray tell, did I force people into stereotypes? As for my MASSIVE SARCASM as you have so endearingly labeled it, I only bring it out on occasions when its needed. I'm not "encouraging such dangerous stunts". I was simply providing a glimpse of the evil to which a number of posters were party to. The best reaction to a stab wound is not to splash the victim with acid.
Piper, I thank you. Your response rivals a number of my own posts for inanity and pointlessness. I laff.
I'm just astounded by how stupid Star Collective is.
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Elethi had this to say about Punky Brewster:
Wow...I'm just astounded by how stupid Star Collective is.
NO!!! I'm stupider, Elethi!! Dont you know that by now?! 
You've got more issues than she does, then.
Further, exactly what is it you think you've contributed, here? All you've done is personally attack anyone who disagrees with you--without taking a position for anything yourself.
Clever in concept, but rather thinly veiled and poorly executed.
Either provide some rationale for your ridiculous, unprovoked attacks, or go away. Why, pray tell, is it better to accept manipulation by attention-whoring poseurs, rather than take a stand in favor of personal responsibility and accountability for one's actions?
Works the same way with 2-year-olds: if they get their way when they cry, pretty soon they're crying over everything.
Obviously, though, you think the best tack is to give the 2-year-old child whatever it wants . . . but you haven't said how that makes anything better.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Hahaha.
I don't think you're stupid, you just make poor choices of who to pick fights with. [ 05-19-2002: Message edited by: Elethi ]
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So quoth Delphi Aegis:
NO!!! I'm stupider, Elethi!! Dont you know that by now?!
Humor tags and unambiguous smilies are your friends . . . otherwise, you'll be dismayed at the number of people who agree with you.
Fishing for sympathetic disagreement simply puts you in the "whining attention whore" category in most people's minds.
After all, you can't work on your inability to communicate if no one tells you how to improve.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
I would like to know though where I said I countenanced attention whoring. After that you can explain your comparison between giving someone help and giving a two-year old everything it wants. When you are finished there you can explain why we should put the torch to those who reach out for help.
She asked for advice. It was given. It was good. It was enough. Flames and making fun of her were completely unneccessary. I showed them just what exactly the path they were on led to. Don't blame your reflection on the mirror.
As for that stereotype of you looking always for a fight, I have to admit that was a rather cheap shot.
With that said:
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Leopold, the Voice of Reason thought about the meaning of life:
I promised not to use my picture anymore. I shall live up to that promise.With that said:
[xIMG]http://cyrano.homestead.com/files/callate.JPG[/IMG]
Doesn't that say "Be quiet, already?" 
Yes, that's right, hot live sex!
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Waisztarroz thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Doesn't that say "Be quiet, already?"
omg incorrect grammar usage wtf falemflaiem flaaaairrrrremmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Stick to your pitiful delusions of being a heavenly being, chump. Fantasy is as close as you're ever going to get to greatness.
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Star Collective stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
[sarcastic rant]Warning: The following post contains MASSIVE quantities of sarcasm!
Much flamage here hmm...? I see BS is looking for a fight and up to his usual tricks...yup, there's Parcelan and his two cents...Ahh Drysart and Piper and others seem to have erupted in self-righteous indignity.[/sarcastic rant]
dumbass
Please remove that title, Tim. There's nothing wrong with a little light poking. I mean, look at Art's title. But that's very sick.
Please, just remove it and then Del can move past this whole thing.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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King Parcelan had this to say about the Spice Girls:
*strips Delphi of World's Biggest Dumbass and awards it to Star Collective*
King Parcelan hath made his decree.
The Parc Award for the World's Biggest Dumbass
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Piper said:
King Parcelan hath made his decree.The Parc Award for the World's Biggest Dumbass
Oh gods, too funny!
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Star Collective thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Bloodsage, your giving advice is a wonderful thing. I heartily approve of it.I would like to know though where I said I countenanced attention whoring. After that you can explain your comparison between giving someone help and giving a two-year old everything it wants. When you are finished there you can explain why we should put the torch to those who reach out for help.
She asked for advice. It was given. It was good. It was enough. Flames and making fun of her were completely unneccessary. I showed them just what exactly the path they were on led to. Don't blame your reflection on the mirror.
As for that stereotype of you looking always for a fight, I have to admit that was a rather cheap shot.
Is it somehow your contention, then, that failed suicide is not the lamest, most blatant form of attention-whoring on the planet? If so, you'll have to justify that.
Additionally, I don't remember flaming this thread's orginator. I'm fairly sure I said at one point that it was no longer really about her. Perhaps you could direct me to where you think I'm flaming her and being unnecessarily cruel?
Finally, you've still not bothered to stand for anything. It's all well and good to point at everyone else and condemn their actions out of hand, but you've got to have a better suggestion ready. Otherwise, you're just grandstanding.
So--tell us how drinking bleach in an admitted attempt to be noticed is not the worst sort of attention-whoring. Then tell us what, exactly, you think an appropriate response is, since you've ruled out both sympathy and condemnation so far.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Ouch Parcelan, I am so very deeply wounded by your harsh words.
Bloodsage, I don't recall ruling out sympathy. In fact I thought I advocated it quite strongly. Perhaps I'm just not making myself plain enough. My response is most definitely sympathy.
If you really want to break it down to the nitty gritty, we are all attention whores. Do we not all desire social contact with other people? Admittedly drinking bleach is much more radical and a great deal less wise than saying "I have a problem". I am not contending that such an act as drinking bleach is wise, but she did in fact come to the board for help and not flames so, at least in my opinion, she should recieve help and not flames. That was my suggestion.
Apparently each and every last one of my posts are badly lacking in clarity since the majority of my points seem to go unnoticed.
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Bloodsage's fortune cookie read:
So--tell us how drinking bleach in an admitted attempt to be noticed is not the worst sort of attention-whoring.
Not to argue with Mr 'Sage, but I can answer this one.
A mother that kills her children, then says that she did it because she was mentally disturbed because nobody cared about her is FAR worse. (And yes, sometimes stuff like that happens. Sometimes it's mother/children, sometimes boyfriend/girlfriend, ect., but it's the same basic thing.)
No matter what the posters here may think of Lady D as a human being right now, at least we can all agree that she isn't a monster. She didn't try to hurt someone else to get attention. (Although, emotionally speaking, it sounds like her dad was fairly hurt by this.)
And the best responce? Maybe a bit of everything. Life rarely has simple answers to complex questions.
If you're now saying we should accept the manipulation of attention-whores, Star Collective, then you've got to answer the further question represented in the 2-year-old scenario.
How does that not encourage such behavior?
After all, it's exactly what such people are looking for when they do such things. In many ways, it's a catch-22 for everyone else: sympathetic people reinforce the behavior by allowing themselves to be manipulated, those who condemn it reinforce the fucked-up self-esteem at the root of the problem, and those who ignore it invite escalation.
Or so one would think. Two of those three responses, however, leave responsibility squarely where it belongs: with the attention-whore. Only the sympathetic person becomes an active participant in the process by validating the silliness that led up to the attempt.
Self-esteem is an internal function. The rest of us have no duty or obligation to validate others--especially in situations like this one.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage had this to say about Duck Tales:
[*hr*]
So it uses [], not <>. Damnit. I kept messing it up.
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Palador ChibiDragon had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
No matter what the posters here may think of Lady D as a human being right now, at least we can all agree that she isn't a monster. She didn't try to hurt someone else to get attention. (Although, emotionally speaking, it sounds like her dad was fairly hurt by this.)
Not an attack on you Chibi, but this is flawed, because that is exactly what it does. Which you clarified by your parenthesis statement. You never only hurt yourself. Ever.
Next time, I'll buy the bullet.
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Faeth Es'Braewyn got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Not an attack on you Chibi, but this is flawed, because that is exactly what it does. Which you clarified by your parenthesis statement. You never only hurt yourself. Ever.Next time, I'll buy the bullet.
You sound terribly bitter.
The first is that people around here will be jerks and there's not much you can do about it. I think, personally, that you identified what you did and are trying to move on. Good for you. I really mean that. You know it was stupid, you probably knew it when you did it, and for whatever reason you thought things were so horrible that you didn't have another choice.
What a lot of people who don't have massive depressive episodes never quite get is that the whole point is you aren't thinking straight. And sometimes it gets so overwhelming you think the only way out is to hurt yourself. My stepbrother committed suicide last year. No reason given. Just threw a loop of rope over a support beam, secured it, stuck his head through the loop and jumped. Bam. No more stepbrother. Much as people may like to psychoanalyze and theorize, sometimes people do, for whatever reason, hurt so badly they try and take themselves out. It's not rational, it's not clear thinking, it's not the right answer.
You tried and it didn't work and you have a second chance. You've given no indication you're going to do something stupid or selfish like that again. I, based on no other opinion of the matter than my own, no medical knowledge, no great wisdom, think that so long as you never try something terrible like that again, then it's not worth harping on. It's not funny. It's an unfortunate incident that happened.
Whether or not it was a cry for help, by the way, is irrelevant. I guarantee Bloodsage and Parcelan and pretty much anyone else around here who flames you doesn't have a degree in psychology or psychiatry (same thing, really, except one's a master's degree and the other is a doctorate). Their opinions are based on pop psychology; what they've heard, what they've read in magazines, maybe what they learned in one psychology class or another.
ANYway...don't take any of their crap too seriously. There are some people who'll be nice and friendly one minute, then flame you down the next while at the same time be patting themselves on the back for having been friendly in the first place. And people call me a hypocrite. Yeah real geniuses there.
Oh and in the past, if you were really, truly unhappy with a title, you could usually talk to Drys about it. I'm sure, tasteless as the joke may be, he meant it only in good fun. The sort of "ha ha ha wasn't that stupid, but at least we can all laugh it off now because you didn't die" mentality. Drys seldom gives titles maliciously, and is usually willing to remove them so long as you didn't do something stupid that violates board rules.
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