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Topic: Ok, this is it.... PS2 vs XBOX!
Taeldian
Pancake
posted 04-11-2002 11:12:47 PM
PS2 because of:

MGS2, GTA3, GT3, VF4, DMC, FFX, DoA2(Which I've never played and know nothing about, just putting it on the list because everyone else did :P).

XBox has Halo, which is coming out for comp eventually anyway.

Tough choice there. :P

Delphi Aegis
Pancake
posted 04-11-2002 11:14:33 PM
quote:
Mooj wrote this stupid crap:
My eyes!! The goggles do nothing!!!

Best. Quote. Ever.

Anyway.

My local EB-clone has an Xbox stand, a PS2 stand, and a Cube stand. I have played each of the demo disks for these platforms (since I am too damned pissass poor to buy the actual systems.).

PS2.
Pros: All games are backwards compatible. Major plussage on this. WTG sony.
Can play DVDs and music CDs via it. Saves ya the cash of a DVD player, I guess.
DVD games. Notice FFIX was like, 3 discs, and FFX was like, one? DVD format = uber alles compression, bish.
Cons:
Expensive, even today. Most PS2 games are still going for at least 40 bucks, if new. Bleh. Renting is an option.
TV compatibility.. If ya havent gotten yer TV in the past 4 years or so, chances are ya prolly wont get stereo sound or the *best* video. Get a new TV first.
Memory cards for PS2 are sometimes rare.. Hell, I know that every electronics store in town has *not* been able to keep them in stock for the past six months. Dead serious.

Xbox.
Pros: DOA3. Boobs. Nuff said.
No need to buy memory cards.
Slightly better hardware.
Cons: Yes. The damned controller. It does *not* feel natural in my hands at all. Sorry, it just doesnt.
Ungainly sight. I want something to match my decor, not stand out from it.
ONO~ IT IS MICROSOFT PRODCUT/!!!~!

'Da Cube.
Pros: SSBM. It is WELL worth spending 250 bucks (200 system, 50 for SSBM) just to play this game. Trust me. Yaes.
Many decent games, including Rogue Leader, and coming soon, Metroid, Zelda, and Mario. Gotta fall back on the staples, bish.
Cheapest of all three systems. Nintendo tries to keep their products rather affordable, and I like them for this.
Decent controller. It is always a joy to hold the 'cube controller.. Uh.. Well, if a stupidass greasy fingered little bastard devil child hasnt held it before me, that is. Nintendo did some good research, and it fits all kinds of hand shapes and sizes.
Rumble feature built in to all controllers (not just special duel shock).
Cons: Cant play CDs/DVDs. Big whoop.
Have to buy memory cards.. Not as "rare" as the PS2 cards, but..
ONO~ SOEM GAEMS MIGHT BE FOR CHLIDRNE?!?!?! LIKE ADUTLS CNAT HAEV FUN WIHT KIDDEI GAEMS?!?!!?/!~?~

Eh. I presented some good pros/cons. Prolly get a dinosaur.. Whee! Your choice, 'sart. I'd go with the 'cube. Beating the shite out of link with peach is just too tempting.. Hehe..

Delphi
I walk in the Light
Facing the Darkness Boldly
I fear no Evil
OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 04-11-2002 11:19:16 PM
PS2 wins "Best Controller" award. You all have to admit that. That's why I bought one of those import PS2 controller cable thingies so I can use a Dual-Shock on my Cube.
..:: This Is The Sound Of Settling ::..
Delphi Aegis
Pancake
posted 04-11-2002 11:22:19 PM
quote:
Check out the big brain on The Otaku Penguin!
PS2 wins "Best Controller" award. You all have to admit that. That's why I bought one of those import PS2 controller cable thingies so I can use a Dual-Shock on my Cube.

For the love of all that is good and fucking holy, WHY ON EARTH DID YOU DO THAT?!
The controller already shakes, and the damn thing has ANALOG SHOULDER BUTTONS! .. Like.. you know.. if you press it a little, it goes a little. if you press it a lot, it goes a lot. Like, oh, I dunno, an accelerator pedal?

..

..

Er. Sorry. Yer cube, not mine.
/rant off

Delphi
I walk in the Light
Facing the Darkness Boldly
I fear no Evil
Taeldian
Pancake
posted 04-11-2002 11:24:42 PM
quote:
Delphi Aegis stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
For the love of all that is good and fucking holy, WHY ON EARTH DID YOU DO THAT?!
The controller already shakes, and the damn thing has ANALOG SHOULDER BUTTONS! .. Like.. you know.. if you press it a little, it goes a little. if you press it a lot, it goes a lot. Like, oh, I dunno, an accelerator pedal?

..

..

Er. Sorry. Yer cube, not mine.
/rant off



Ummm...PS2 controllers have the analog buttons too.

OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 04-11-2002 11:25:22 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Delphi Aegis was all like:
For the love of all that is good and fucking holy, WHY ON EARTH DID YOU DO THAT?!
The controller already shakes, and the damn thing has ANALOG SHOULDER BUTTONS! .. Like.. you know.. if you press it a little, it goes a little. if you press it a lot, it goes a lot. Like, oh, I dunno, an accelerator pedal?

..

..

Er. Sorry. Yer cube, not mine.
/rant off


*shrugs*

..:: This Is The Sound Of Settling ::..
Delphi Aegis
Pancake
posted 04-11-2002 11:29:02 PM
quote:
Taeldian Model 2000 was programmed to say:

Ummm...PS2 controllers have the analog buttons too.

I take controllers apart in my spare time. And I have a lot of spare time.
Most are digital. One or Zero. Connected circut, or broken. Very, very simple.
Analog means there are hundreds of thousands of values between 1 and zero.
You are probably thinking of the analog joysticks. These are nice, and well designed. However..
The cube's controller has Nine digital buttons, and four analog imputs. Meh, just me, I like the feel of pressing a teensy bit and getting a teensy bit, rather then pressing hard and getting the same as if I was light as a feather on it.. y'know?

Delphi
I walk in the Light
Facing the Darkness Boldly
I fear no Evil
Taeldian
Pancake
posted 04-11-2002 11:32:48 PM
No, I'm not talking about the joysticks, im talking about the buttons. If you press them a teensy bit, you get a teensy bit. If you press them hard, you get alot. I know from personal experience.
Comrade Snoota
Communist
Da, Tovarisch!
posted 04-12-2002 12:17:52 AM
Xbox also uses DVD games and all the controllers have the 'rumble pack' thingie in them.

<DINOSAURS DELPH!!!!!>

<calls him Delph for extra effect!>

You smell that? Do you smell that? ...Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.
Suddar Williams
SUDAR WILAMS
posted 04-12-2002 07:11:56 AM
Taeldian's right.

All the buttons on the PS2 controllers are analog.

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 04-12-2002 07:29:43 AM
Those who say most X-Box games are crap don't know what they're talking about. What they mean is that they don't like them.

There's a huge difference.

X-Box has many great games out now, and many more in the wings. It just depends what you like.

Halo is awesome.
Munch's Oddysee is hilarious.
Project Gotham is incredible.
Rallisport Challenge is fantanstic.
NFL Fever is outstanding, though some prefer Madden.
Amped is gorgeous.

And the controller is fine for adults. Only tiny girly-men need bitch and moan about it being too big.

Depends upon what kind of games you like, is all. The current crop is outstanding, and there are more on the way.

And, if you get Official X-Box Magazine, they include playable demos with each issue. Very cool way to test games.

So, if you like the annoying Japanese RPGs, go PS2. But if you're looking for something aimed squarely at an adult market, think about X-Box.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Canadian Mountee
Rumble Pak+FMV Sequence=FUN!
posted 04-12-2002 07:44:28 AM
Eh, I've played all of 'em.

The X-box controller.. hmm, instead of saying big, let's say awkward. Yes. Awkward.

It has some fun games, it'll get better with time.

PS2 is good too, yo.

GameCube's gonna get better, and it has some very fun games already. Despite the children based theme, they're still fun.

Don't knock 'em till you've atleast played them for a significant amount of time.

Go next Gen systems.

The World is Yours
Faeth Es'Braewyn
No Breasts. :(
posted 04-12-2002 09:26:49 AM
X-Box: This system, is purely for eye candy, at the moment at least. The games for the system are far and away exceptionally bland. And it's lineup is pretty small. It has the most theoretical power of each system, but with advanced methods, PS2 comes close, and in some cases GameCube excels. It is still, harware wise, the more powerful of the three. It's future, as far as developed software also isn't so bright, but thats up to interpritation. DoA3 = Every Other DoA with new characters and flashier looks, Halo = Boring, and no differen't than any other shooter before it with the exception of better looks. At this point, I would say, X-Box is not worth the money. Now if they refine things, imporve thier lineup, and cheapen the price. Then maybe, but not right now.

PS2: Has the largest lineup of any of the consoles, but it's in the rutt of 50/50. 50% Entertaining, and 50% Crap. It's not as flashier as the other systems, and isn't as adaptable to group involvement, but it is more established. It's games are pretty enough, and for the most part fun. Plus it elimnates the need for a PSX, to pawn for extra cash, and get back space. And the Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance is a decent button masher hack and slash for two people. Oh and just for Drys, it has "bouncage" something fierce on some of the Female NPCs, and not to mention a Thong Bikini if you play the Sorceress.

GameCube: It's on par with the X-Box as far as technical ability. It looks for the most part just as good, and with some in house tricks sometimes even better. It's games are almost all, for the most par group oriented, and highly addictive, for pure entertainment vaule. Nothing exceptionally imersive, but since thats not what you want right now. It's not really an issue. Not to mention some of the clasics are makings some kick ass combacks, and it has an awesome lineup set to date. With that said however, it has the smallest lineup thus far. It is however the cheapest of the consoles, it is equally as pretty, in some cases prettier, it's games are highly addictive, if not imerrsive, group oriented, has a bright future lineup, and "Smash Brothers Melee", does indeed own all. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm, Metroid....

After all that, I sucribe to the "Own all" Philosphy. I own em all. GameCubs is my favortie, Followed by PS2.. I'm not entirely happy at wll with my X-Box.

"Born of fire, forged with steel, I am the hunter that you know, but will never see..."
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 04-12-2002 10:19:22 AM
Question : Does X-Box play DVD video as well, right out of the box? I had an X-Box for a brief period of time... right before I exchanged it for a Playstation 2... and from what I saw, the DVD kit is something you buy separately.

Personally, I'm going to go for PS2 over X-Box.

Why?

DMC, MGS2, VirtuaFighter 4, Maximo, GTA3, My RPG's (Which sorta don't fit in here, 'cuz as Drys said, he's not going for those).

But right now, RPG's on PS2 pwn RPG's on X-Box.

FFX, Wild Arms 3, Arc the Lad collection, just to name a few. Which is why I'm gonna be happy with my PS2 for a long time. Plus I can play my old PS1 games, with better looks

All depends on what games look interesting to you, really.

Faeth Es'Braewyn
No Breasts. :(
posted 04-12-2002 10:23:08 AM
quote:
Khyron was naked while typing this:
Question : Does X-Box play DVD video as well, right out of the box? I had an X-Box for a brief period of time... right before I exchanged it for a Playstation 2... and from what I saw, the DVD kit is something you buy separately.

Personally, I'm going to go for PS2 over X-Box.

Why?

DMC, MGS2, VirtuaFighter 4, Maximo, GTA3, My RPG's (Which sorta don't fit in here, 'cuz as Drys said, he's not going for those).

But right now, RPG's on PS2 pwn RPG's on X-Box.

FFX, Wild Arms 3, Arc the Lad collection, just to name a few. Which is why I'm gonna be happy with my PS2 for a long time. Plus I can play my old PS1 games, with better looks

All depends on what games look interesting to you, really.


It'll cost ya extra to be able to play DVD's on X-Box

"Born of fire, forged with steel, I am the hunter that you know, but will never see..."
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 04-12-2002 10:25:16 AM
That's what I thought, thanks Fae.
Super Kagrama
ROFLELFOLOL!!!11!1 YUO CAN'T RAED MY POSTSSE!@!11
posted 04-12-2002 10:26:48 AM
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Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 04-12-2002 11:31:51 AM
PS2
Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 04-12-2002 11:41:00 AM
PS2 => GB > X-Box=


Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Skaw
posted 04-12-2002 11:59:36 AM
quote:
Faeth Es'Braewyn had this to say about pies:
Halo = Boring, and no differen't than any other shooter before it with the exception of better looks.

Wouldn't that be a comment useable for every other FPS after the first one?

But in all seriousness..

[bih]Halo has the Banshee. Quite possibly the best flyer implemented into a 1st/3rd Person Shooter!

[ 04-12-2002: Message edited by: Skaw ]

Faeth Es'Braewyn
No Breasts. :(
posted 04-12-2002 12:08:55 PM
quote:
Skaw obviously shouldn't have said:
Wouldn't that be a comment useable for every other FPS after the first one?

Pretty much, yeah.

But there have been some shooters that I LIKED, Halo bored me to tears... Banshee is cool though, I do like some of the vehicles. But it just reminds me of a bad spin of or Armorines...

*shudders

"Born of fire, forged with steel, I am the hunter that you know, but will never see..."
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 04-12-2002 12:25:17 PM
Nah. Take a look at Deus Ex. It was a FPS game with totally new gameplay that combined shooting with strategy
Kaglaaz How'ler
Pancake
posted 04-12-2002 12:32:33 PM
X-Box is the only system I've had any exposure to. A buddy of mine worked at Funcoland and purchased one. He recently went to Japan to visit a friend. While he was there he picked up one of the smaller X-Box controllers that Microsoft shipped over there. I have large hands and I don't like the X-Box controller entirely. It's fine but can make my hands hurt if playing too long. I tried out his smaller controller and didn't notice the fatigue as much.
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Redmage Darkrayver
Moron
posted 04-12-2002 12:33:47 PM
quote:
Taeldian had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
XBox has Halo, which is coming out for comp eventually anyway.


If Microsoft Allows it anyways.

Bloody X-Box shoulda gotten Halo Second after PC *Grumbles*

F*ing microsoft

Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 04-12-2002 12:49:04 PM
PS2 or Gamecube. Firstly, XBox is microsoft and inherently evil, I dont care what you say. Secondly, DOA3 is worse than DOA2: Hardcore in my opinion. (Yes, I have played both). PS2 has good games and such and is worth it for many games. If you want multiplayer fun, gamecube is definitly the way to go. Especially if they decide to make PD2. And Kameo is lookin good too.
ZaÂ’afiel
Coolest Hamster Pimp Ever!
posted 04-12-2002 01:23:15 PM
quote:
Bloodsage had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
Those who say most X-Box games are crap don't know what they're talking about. What they mean is that they don't like them.

There's a huge difference.

X-Box has many great games out now, and many more in the wings. It just depends what you like.

Halo is awesome.
Munch's Oddysee is hilarious.
Project Gotham is incredible.
Rallisport Challenge is fantanstic.
NFL Fever is outstanding, though some prefer Madden.
Amped is gorgeous.

And the controller is fine for adults. Only tiny girly-men need bitch and moan about it being too big.

Depends upon what kind of games you like, is all. The current crop is outstanding, and there are more on the way.

And, if you get Official X-Box Magazine, they include playable demos with each issue. Very cool way to test games.

So, if you like the annoying Japanese RPGs, go PS2. But if you're looking for something aimed squarely at an adult market, think about X-Box.


i agree...

also am i the only person who hates the damn FF series ? they piss me off

[ 04-12-2002: Message edited by: Anklebitur D'gnome ]

"Consistancy is the hobgoblin of little minds."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
Maradon!
posted 04-12-2002 01:34:58 PM
Dude, let's face reality here, kiddy games just suck. If I wanna watch purple dinosaurs bounce around my TV I'll watch PBS for a couple hours
Delphi Aegis
Pancake
posted 04-12-2002 03:53:12 PM
quote:
This one time, at Maradön? camp:
Dude, let's face reality here, kiddy games just suck. If I wanna watch purple dinosaurs bounce around my TV I'll watch PBS for a couple hours

I didnt realize they made a barney game.
Supermonkey ball. A monkey, in a ball, walking around a big platform, collecting bananas. SSBM, a bunch of old sk00l characters beating the living crap out of each other..

Like I said, just because its a game that doesnt include graphic violence, breasts, and massive explosions DOES NOT mean that a person over 18 cant have fun with it.

Duh.

Delphi
I walk in the Light
Facing the Darkness Boldly
I fear no Evil
Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 04-12-2002 05:26:52 PM
quote:
Anklebitur D'gnome had this to say about pies:
also am i the only person who hates the damn FF series ? they piss me off

No. While I love most of the FF games, I will admit there is a "FF feel" to most of them. If you like that kind of game, great. If you don't, then you won't like FF no matter how spiffy it looks.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Mystiana
Heavy Drinker
posted 04-12-2002 06:19:14 PM
go with the PS2...Gates has enough money.
Mystiana Puellaris

"Life gives us time, but only Love gives it meaning."

Mightion Defensor
posted 04-12-2002 06:21:28 PM
quote:
Mystiana was naked while typing this:
go with the PS2...Gates has enough money.

Whoa, a Mystiana spawn!

Wait until Mort finds out.

Nice to see you again.

Mystiana
Heavy Drinker
posted 04-12-2002 06:22:49 PM
rare, aren't they?
Mystiana Puellaris

"Life gives us time, but only Love gives it meaning."

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 04-12-2002 06:24:11 PM
MYSTI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*BIG HUGS*


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Mystiana
Heavy Drinker
posted 04-12-2002 06:34:23 PM
*smiles brightly and gives Ly a huge, warm hug*
Mystiana Puellaris

"Life gives us time, but only Love gives it meaning."

Admiral Darndo
Pancake
posted 04-12-2002 06:54:59 PM
Im just going to ened this now.
just get and snes/nes if you don't have and you won't need anything else (outside of a PS2...)
(Crap.I used the humans language again.) -monkey
Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 04-12-2002 07:28:09 PM
quote:
Delphi Aegis had this to say about Pirotess:

Like I said, just because its a game that doesnt include graphic violence, breasts, and massive explosions DOES NOT mean that a person over 18 cant have fun with it.

Duh.


But why would you want to (play a game geared towards kids) if you can have graphic violence, breasts, and massive explosions?

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 04-12-2002 07:48:34 PM
Nice, Sage

You say people that think XBox games are crap just think that cause they don't like them.

But then you go on to insult Japanese RPGS by calling them annoying. You might think that, but by your own statement, that doesn't make them bad.

Don't contradict yourself

And yes, I happen to like those RPGs


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Piper
Rabid Druid
posted 04-12-2002 07:55:37 PM
Mysti!! Mysti!! Mysti!! Mysti!!

*hugs and hugs*

btw guys, he bought a PS2, so if you don't see Drys for a few weeks, thats why


PIPERPOWER
What?! I was talking about the fish you crazy bastard!
Aure entuluva! ...or at least I hope.
Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 04-12-2002 08:03:12 PM
quote:
Piper got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
btw guys, he bought a PS2, so if you don't see Drys for a few weeks, thats why

I was wondering why he wasn't getting back into this thread. Now I know why, he's busy playing games.

Of course, now that this thread has outlived it's purpose, it will continue on for several days. Yes?

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 04-12-2002 08:15:43 PM
Comes down to what you like. The Abe/Munch games always reminded me of Super Mario for the n64. Didn't really thrill me. Most of the othe games on Sage's list are race games or race game variants. With a few exceptions, those don't thrill me. The one game I know (Halo) is, from what I understand, coming to desktop computers at some point.

I've yet to see why I should shell out 300 bucks for a game system. The one game listed that I'm interested in will come out on desktop. At most 60 bucks, let's say. 60 or 300? Let me think about that.

People griping about controllers? I don't gripe about controllers. I've yet to meet someone with hands bigger than mine. I also fail to see the legitimacy of a comment about "girly man" complaints when the fact is that a number of gamers are in fact women. And, for the record, I've yet to meet a woman with hands as big as mine. An XBox controller for them might be too big. What's comfortable for my hands might not be comfortable for people with smaller hands. So that comment was just inflammatory.

Why do I want a PS2? i like fight games. I like the fight games that PS2 has. I like role playing games. PS2 has the games I want to play, Japanese or otherwise. And before you bitch and moan about games from Japan, I want you to find one game on XBox that wasn't made with technology, training, or participation of someone of Japanese relation. Don't push that button. Influence crosses over.

You want to know what *I* think is stupid? Motion capture technology and armature controls were designed originally to allow fine-tuned control of robots. They were going to do all sorts of amazing things. And despite feasibility of it, do you know where that stuff is used? To get down the trademark moves of football jocks down for video games.

*shrugs* But at least I know it goes to all games RPG and sports and don't make stupid comments about one sort of game showing influence of a culture and not other sorts.

As for RPG's...well...you're entitled to your opinion. But if you think the sort of game someone plays bespeaks more of masculinity or maturity...then you're just plain wrong.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
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