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Topic: Square moving to Nintendo as well.
Dan Hibiki
Pancake
posted 03-09-2002 12:52:40 PM
Hey, Anybody else here happy that Square's developing for Nintendo now as well? We'll get all 6 original Final Fantasy games remade for the GBA. And the Final Fantasy Unlimited Cartoon Show is being an exclusive game for the Game Cube. I'm definately buying a gamecube now.
What do you say to a person who defeats you by using a Gadoken?
Darius!
Pancake
posted 03-09-2002 12:54:56 PM
I looked like your sigpic when I first heard.

[ 03-09-2002: Message edited by: First Dragon ]

Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 03-09-2002 12:57:29 PM
Its great, as (aside from VII) the super nintendo ones were the best.
Dan Hibiki
Pancake
posted 03-09-2002 12:57:44 PM
LoL.
How many people here have a PS2, Gamecube, GBA, or X-Box (BOOO X-BOX!!!!)

I personally have a PS2 and a GBA.

What do you say to a person who defeats you by using a Gadoken?
Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 03-09-2002 12:59:17 PM
Accursed edit...I have a Gamecube and GBA, and I support PS2. However, I say we should set all X-boxes on fire, thereby killing all the pix- er lawyers inside!
Dan Hibiki
Pancake
posted 03-09-2002 01:01:10 PM
Tegadil, you are my new bestest best friend!
I'm going to get a Gamecube once some more games come out. Mainly Metroid and Zelda. *drool*
What do you say to a person who defeats you by using a Gadoken?
Za’afiel
Coolest Hamster Pimp Ever!
posted 03-09-2002 01:13:25 PM
i have GBA, and am going for an X-box, and they need a metroid for GBA
"Consistancy is the hobgoblin of little minds."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
Dan Hibiki
Pancake
posted 03-09-2002 01:14:37 PM
Just a question.. Why X-Box? There's only one good game out right now, and for just one game, it's not worth it.
What do you say to a person who defeats you by using a Gadoken?
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 03-09-2002 01:57:16 PM
quote:
Dan Hibiki had this to say about Captain Planet:
Just a question.. Why X-Box? There's only one good game out right now, and for just one game, it's not worth it.


OMG YAES the XBOX IS EVLI BECAUES MICROSOF MAEK IT?!?@!???@?!?@

Darius!
Pancake
posted 03-09-2002 02:00:43 PM
quote:
Falaanla Marr had this to say about John Romero:

OMG YAES the XBOX IS EVLI BECAUES MICROSOF MAEK IT?!?@!???@?!?@

Lets just face it, XBox doesnt have very many great games out. They have a few good ones, and a couple great ones, but most of them seem to suck.

Il Buono
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend.
posted 03-09-2002 02:01:49 PM
quote:
Falaanla Marr had this to say about Duck Tales:

OMG YAES the XBOX IS EVLI BECAUES MICROSOF MAEK IT?!?@!???@?!?@

Wow. Way to miss the point, Fal!

To answer the question: Because the X-Box has the largest potential of any console available at the moment.

"Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
Za’afiel
Coolest Hamster Pimp Ever!
posted 03-09-2002 02:11:45 PM
quote:
D had this to say about pies:
Wow. Way to miss the point, Fal!

To answer the question: Because the X-Box has the largest potential of any console available at the moment.


YEAES YOu WIN HTE THEREE DALLOR PRIEZ !


biscuit

"Consistancy is the hobgoblin of little minds."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 03-09-2002 02:11:50 PM
quote:
D had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Wow. Way to miss the point, Fal!

To answer the question: Because the X-Box has the largest potential of any console available at the moment.


And the XBOX has been out for 4 months? 5?

Not too terribly long. Alot of good games don't come out till a year-ish after the system releases.

I just get the odd feeling that is Sony had made the XBOX it would be hailed as the holygrail of gaming, even with its current library. But because its microsoft, people look at it FAR FAR more than they should, and their outlook on the system is crap from the beginning.

What did the PS2 have that was any good in the first 6 months to a year? Nothin I remember hearing talk that Sony had "rushed" the ps2, that the Dreamcast was gonna beat it out. Where is the PS2 now, though?

And the XBOX has far more than one good game. HALO, DOA3 (and not just for the graphics and jiggling breasts), Project Gotham Racing...

I just dont think alot of people take the XBOX for a system on its own merits, and think that because it was put out by microsoft that all the games are inherently bad, and crap. They arent. Sure, there ARE some crappy games, some games that HAVE potential and blow it, but arent there ALWAYS games like that?

At least the GameCube will get recognition now. I wonder though, why people dont bash the cube NEARLY as much when it has less good games than the XBOX? I mean...SSB:M, and...SSBM, and, well, SSBM. thats about it. The GameCube WILL have some great games down the line though, and its far from a crappy system. not SUPPORTING people bashing it, just wonder WHY they latched onto the xbox like a school of pirahnas

Fal

[ 03-09-2002: Message edited by: Falaanla Marr ]

Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 03-09-2002 02:13:02 PM
...I already posted this...
I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 03-09-2002 02:15:25 PM
quote:
Falaanla Marr had this to say about (_|_):
*snip* DOA3 (and not just for the graphics and jiggling breasts *snip*

Which is pretty much DOA 2 - the photo gallery(THOSE FIENDS!), from what I played.

Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 03-09-2002 02:18:12 PM
Super Nintedo to Playstation was a quantum leap forward for consles. Titles like Resident Evil weren't impressive because of the way they looked, but because the player was able to explore and interact with the environment (and shoot zombies) in ways that were impossible on the SNES or Genesis.

Now, it's PS2 vs. X-Box. But the difference is that you could easily put a Halo or a DOA3 or a Munch's Oddysee (sp?) on a PS2; it just wouldn't be quite so smooth looking. And... that's all.

The hardware has reached a point where there's nothing left to do but make a game look photo-realistic, and that just doesn't matter.
There is no serious potential difference between these two consoles.

[EDIT] And yeah, Densestsu already posted this; it's not even halfway down the page

[ 03-09-2002: Message edited by: Sentow ]

Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
Darius!
Pancake
posted 03-09-2002 02:21:41 PM
What Sentow said.
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 03-09-2002 02:23:18 PM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Sentow!
Super Nintedo to Playstation was a quantum leap forward for consles. Titles like Resident Evil weren't impressive because of the way they looked, but because the player was able to explore and interact with the environment (and shoot zombies) in ways that were impossible on the SNES or Genesis.

Now, it's PS2 vs. X-Box. But the difference is that you could easily put a Halo or a DOA3 or a Munch's Oddysee (sp?) on a PS2; it just wouldn't be quite so smooth looking. And... that's all.

The hardware has reached a point where there's nothing left to do but make a game look photo-realistic, and that just doesn't matter.
There is no serious potential difference between these two consoles.


And that is why, right now, the PS2 is the superior system -- It has the gameplay.

But you are right. The biggest profits will come in Innovation now, new ways to play games. We gained the ability to explore 3d worlds, as you said, with the PS1, and that was a huge leap. There is only so far graphics can take a game, though.

I think as soon as the XBOX starts to get some GOOD RPGs, though, it will get its chance to jump ahead of the PS2.

And that brings up another question totally: What are the next couple generations of game systems gonna be like? (Think: PS3, XBOX2, GameCube2) Where will the innovation be? Graphics arent gonna be able to get much better or anything...we dont have the technology...

...yet

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 03-09-2002 02:27:45 PM
Sorry, but graphics is immersion, and immersion is a good thing.

And there are great games out for X-Box currently.

Tell me, how many "great" games were out immediately after PS2's launch?

Frankly, I find Square games boring, ugly, and just plain silly. Especially the FF series. Just not my thing.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Darius!
Pancake
posted 03-09-2002 02:29:40 PM
Onimusha, Twisted Metal Black, Dynasty Warriors, Kessen, few others that I dont care to try and remember right now.
Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 03-09-2002 02:29:47 PM
quote:
And that brings up another question totally: What are the next couple generations of game systems gonna be like? (Think: PS3, XBOX2, GameCube2) Where will the innovation be? Graphics arent gonna be able to get much better or anything...we dont have the technology...

...yet


There are some things left to do, but they would mainly be niches or gimmicks, not full out revolutions for the gaming community. For example, 100% terrain malleability, superior enemy AI, a revamped FF8 that doesn't suck...

Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 03-09-2002 02:31:47 PM
quote:
Sorry, but graphics is immersion, and immersion is a good thing.

Look at a PS2 game.
Look at an X-Box game.

It's just not a big difference.

Furthermore, for a game to be totally immersive, it would have to be totally realistic.
That's not a good thing.

[EDIT] ARVIS: Bah! Semantic nonsense!
LOCKE: There's a HUGE difference!

[ 03-09-2002: Message edited by: Sentow ]

Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
Il Buono
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend.
posted 03-09-2002 02:45:45 PM
quote:
Sentow had this to say about Punky Brewster:
100% terrain malleability

GeoMod.

quote:
Sentow had this to say about Punky Brewster:
superior enemy AI

Metal Gear Solid 2. And CS: Condition Zero appears to have some badass AI.

quote:
Sentow had this to say about Punky Brewster:
a revamped FF8 that doesn't suck...

Fuck man, what do I look like, a miracle worker?

"Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 03-09-2002 02:52:48 PM
I would also like to note that it's hard to say how many great games there are on any given Sunday console. For example, I thought Oni and Tekken Tag Tournament, two of PS2's early titles, rocked my socks.

However, that opinion is not shared by the public at large

Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
Il Buono
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend.
posted 03-09-2002 02:53:57 PM
Oni for PC was awesome.
"Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
Dan Hibiki
Pancake
posted 03-09-2002 03:03:48 PM
I'd also like to point one thing out...

The Japanese hate American made products. Electronics and games are their department. If Microsoft begins to take over the gaming community, do you think that the Japanese are going to go 'Oh, let's throw our country's main export down the toilet by buying all these American made imports!'.
Japanese support is what either makes or breaks a console. Sure, the X-Box is good for American made games, sure it's good for PC ports, and sure, it's good for lots of 'features'. But it's the Japanese Support that is needed! All I see are mainly American game companies making games for it. Don't complain to me, I know that Capcom and some others have games lined up and some already released. I'm going to leave my gaming up to the Japanese though. Because...

A) I love Japan.
B) They make the best games.
and C)I don't want to play video games which I can just buy for my computer.

What do you say to a person who defeats you by using a Gadoken?
OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 03-09-2002 03:09:07 PM
quote:
Dan Hibiki had this to say about Robocop:
I'd also like to point one thing out...

The Japanese hate American made products. Electronics and games are their department. If Microsoft begins to take over the gaming community, do you think that the Japanese are going to go 'Oh, let's throw our country's main export down the toilet by buying all these American made imports!'.
Japanese support is what either makes or breaks a console. Sure, the X-Box is good for American made games, sure it's good for PC ports, and sure, it's good for lots of 'features'. But it's the Japanese Support that is needed! All I see are mainly American game companies making games for it. Don't complain to me, I know that Capcom and some others have games lined up and some already released. I'm going to leave my gaming up to the Japanese though. Because...

A) I love Japan.
B) They make the best games.
and C)I don't want to play video games which I can just buy for my computer.


Good point, the Japanese make most of the best games, the X-Box has to play by ear because they don't have a lot of Japanese support. The PS2 does though. And gameplay > Graphics IMO

..:: This Is The Sound Of Settling ::..
Mog
not really a mmembe rof tis boered
posted 03-09-2002 03:11:05 PM
great.... now this mean i gotta eventually buy a game cube, this sucks, but gba cronicles would be nice

Regret calamities if you can thereby help the sufferer; if not, attend to your own work and allready the evil begins to be repaired
- Self Rreliance
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 03-09-2002 03:14:16 PM
quote:
Dan Hibiki had this to say about dark elf butts:
I'd also like to point one thing out...

The Japanese hate American made products. Electronics and games are their department. If Microsoft begins to take over the gaming community, do you think that the Japanese are going to go 'Oh, let's throw our country's main export down the toilet by buying all these American made imports!'.
Japanese support is what either makes or breaks a console. Sure, the X-Box is good for American made games, sure it's good for PC ports, and sure, it's good for lots of 'features'. But it's the Japanese Support that is needed! All I see are mainly American game companies making games for it. Don't complain to me, I know that Capcom and some others have games lined up and some already released. I'm going to leave my gaming up to the Japanese though. Because...

A) I love Japan.
B) They make the best games.
and C)I don't want to play video games which I can just buy for my computer.



Just because the japanese support a console doesnt mean it will succeed. Because they dont support it doesnt mean it WONT succeed.

They made games for the dreamcast, and where is it now? Sure, They make damn good games, but saying american companies DONT make good games is, well, crap.

And Im sorry, but games DESIGNED for the xbox and ported to the pc will be better on the xbox. Why? They are designed to use a controller. The game developers sit there, say "OK, how can we make this game play so it will work well with a controller" and don't worry as much about a keyboard and mouse setup. Keyboard and mouse is great for certain genres. RTS, FPS, RPGs come to mind. Consoles work best with platformers, RPGs, Driving games, and fighting games. Sure, you can get a game controller for your computer, but if im using a controller, id rather be playing that game on a console.

Console games wont be as buggy as pc games, or as crash prone, either. They are developed for one piece of hardware, and developers dont have to worry about "Well, this fixes it on one system but breaks it on another.

*shrug* Wow, I rambled.

Fal

Mog
not really a mmembe rof tis boered
posted 03-09-2002 03:16:52 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and The Otaku Penguin was all like:
And gameplay > Graphics IMO


wich is why i sued to spend most of my time with snes roms even when i had a ps1


Regret calamities if you can thereby help the sufferer; if not, attend to your own work and allready the evil begins to be repaired
- Self Rreliance
Dan Hibiki
Pancake
posted 03-09-2002 03:30:06 PM
I'm not saying American games suck, I'm a huge Baldur's Gate fan. I'm saying, that I'd prefer to play a Japanese game to an American one.

Japanese support is DEFINATELY needed. Here's a little question for you... WHY did Microsoft do this...
"Each of the limited edition systems came with a special engraved keychain with Bill Gates' signature."
Limited Edition ones in Japan only BTW.

Oh, and is it me, or do the majority of X-Box owners prefer first person shooters while PS2 owners prefer RPGs?

[10 dollars to whoever can answer this question: What was the very first 3D game for the PC?]

What do you say to a person who defeats you by using a Gadoken?
Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 03-09-2002 03:40:07 PM
quote:
Dan Hibiki had this to say about Duck Tales:
I'm not saying American games suck, I'm a huge Baldur's Gate fan. I'm saying, that I'd prefer to play a Japanese game to an American one.

Japanese support is DEFINATELY needed. Here's a little question for you... WHY did Microsoft do this...
"Each of the limited edition systems came with a special engraved keychain with Bill Gates' signature."
Limited Edition ones in Japan only BTW.

Oh, and is it me, or do the majority of X-Box owners prefer first person shooters while PS2 owners prefer RPGs?

[10 dollars to whoever can answer this question: What was the very first 3D game for the PC?]


My guess is Wolfenstein, but I may have misunderstood the question.

Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 03-09-2002 03:43:36 PM
Im guessing that people buy a system based on the games out for it, Dan, so I would agree that XBOX owners may prefer shooters over RPGs -- UNLESS they own both systems...

Unless a gamer cannot afford multiple systems, they will quite often own at least 2 of the current generation systems, if not all of them.

Fal

Mog
not really a mmembe rof tis boered
posted 03-09-2002 03:57:28 PM
quote:
Tegadil had this to say about Punky Brewster:
My guess is Wolfenstein, but I may have misunderstood the question.

nope, ultima underworld


Regret calamities if you can thereby help the sufferer; if not, attend to your own work and allready the evil begins to be repaired
- Self Rreliance
Leopold
Porn maniac
posted 03-09-2002 04:03:26 PM
I don't own an X-Box.

I vowed never to buy a game console larger than my head.

-Carl.

"Leopold said it best. This is one of the few times someone besides me is right." -Mr. Parcelan
Maradon!
posted 03-09-2002 04:32:20 PM
quote:
Dan Hibiki had this to say about Punky Brewster:
And the Final Fantasy Unlimited Cartoon Show is being an exclusive game for the Game Cube.

Hahaha! I don't know whether to laugh or puke!

I'm praying to whatever gods there may be that the sane, self-respecting minds at square will put a stop to this immediatly.

Dan Hibiki
Pancake
posted 03-09-2002 05:03:57 PM
MOG IS THE WINNER!!! DING DING DING!

Ultima Underworld came out ONE WEEK before wolfenstein. It has way better graphics and gameplay than Wolfenstein, plus a lot more Replay value. Good job Mog!

What do you say to a person who defeats you by using a Gadoken?
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 03-09-2002 05:17:40 PM
This is me caring.

Computer >>>>> Console

Admiral Darndo
Pancake
posted 03-09-2002 06:33:30 PM
kegwen if you were an X-Box I would punt you... because your an X-Box
(Crap.I used the humans language again.) -monkey
Super Kagrama
ROFLELFOLOL!!!11!1 YUO CAN'T RAED MY POSTSSE!@!11
posted 03-09-2002 06:36:02 PM
HIS AN X-BOX/
i shoueld joeg threw the foreast moer offeand!!11
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