That is something I gotta try and do to Bell when they call with a new offer like that.
I hereby Salute you on a job Well done!
*Your Faction with RedMage has gone up greatly!
I just got it in my e-mail.
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Khyron had this to say about Duck Tales:
Unless someone secretly changed my last name from 'Bingham' to 'Borgos', it wasn't me.I just got it in my e-mail.
Well, you could've said you were, though you aren't.
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ACES! Another post by Skaw:
Well, you could've said you were, though you aren't.
I was lazy and sleepy this morning. I copied, pasted, hit post.
Now I'm annoyed because work SUCKS.
So, like, Bite me.
You deal with idiots all day. Would YOU like one them trying THAT on you?
They're just doing their job. I get really tired of people giving telemarketers a hard time because of that.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
Telemarketing is finding out if someone is interested in your product. It becomes an invasion of privacy when you're trying to make them interested through repeated, unsolicited contact.
In the latter case I have no pity for the marketer. True, they aren't the driving force behind the invasion, but they are it's chosen spearhead and they applied for the job knowing this full well.
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Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about pies:
I don't find that funny.You deal with idiots all day. Would YOU like one them trying THAT on you?
They're just doing their job. I get really tired of people giving telemarketers a hard time because of that.
I fully endorse this. Why?
Their fault for calling. If I wanted their services, then I would call THEM. It doesn't matter the product. If someone called me up offering me a T1 line for 50 a month, and I was eating, I would hang up on them for being so rude.
I deal with idiots all day, I take calls all day, but I absolutely refuse to be a jackass telemarketer. I'd sooner go unemployed.
quote:I wouldn't...
Khyron obviously shouldn't have said:
If someone called me up offering me a T1 line for 50 a month, and I was eating, I would hang up on them for being so rude.
If you want to blame someone, then blame the owners of the company that set up those sorts of rules. But don't be rude to someone just because they're trying to do a job that in most cases is all they can get, and that they need.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
quote:I wouldn't...[/QB][/QUOTE]
The Black Mage... wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
[QUOTE]Khyron obviously shouldn't have said:
[qb]If someone called me up offering me a T1 line for 50 a month, and I was eating, I would hang up on them for being so rude.
Eh, true. But I will say so here on the board to prove my point, because I want my point to be proven.
Truth is, I just fucking HATE IDIOT TELEMARKETERS. A telemarketer is like, four steps lower than dog shit in my opinion.
They have no useful role in society other than to bother people. They can only call after 9, right?
Well, one day I decided to sleep in on my day off. Guess who called at 9:05 that day? Some jackass trying to sell me a broom-mop.
I harass Telemarketers when they call. Seriously.
"This is AT&T Cable, would you like to upgrade your service blah blah blah?"
"Do you offer cable modem services in my area with a uncapped upstream?"
"Uh, I don't know..."
"Then I'm not interested, *CLICK*"
I feel no remorse. Society has plenty of more productive jobs available for people than Telemarketing. [ 07-13-2002: Message edited by: Khyron ]
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Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about Knight Rider:
If you want to blame someone, then blame the owners of the company that set up those sorts of rules. But don't be rude to someone just because they're trying to do a job that in most cases is all they can get, and that they need.
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Maradön² wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
In the latter case I have no pity for the marketer. True, they aren't the driving force behind the invasion, but they are it's chosen spearhead and they applied for the job knowing this full well.
I would much rather she was hung up on when she was doing it than lose her job because some fuckhead like in the e-mail you posted kept her on the line and she didn't make her call quota.
And I already pointed out, Mara, that sometimes people have no other option. There have been a lot of people here in my office who are basically stuck here, because they aren't qualified for anything else, and because that job flipping burgers isn't enough to pay everything they have to pay.
But both of you, put yourself in THEIR shoes for a moment. They're doing a job. They're trying to get through a script. They don't need someone trying to be cute making their day even harder.
People that give telemarketers a hard time make me sick, honestly. Too fucking concerned about themselves to think of the person on the other line enough to at least politely rebuff, instead of being an ass.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about Pirotess:
Not all telemarketers are idiots, you dick. My mother did it for a while
I would much rather she was hung up on when she was doing it than lose her job because some fuckhead like in the e-mail you posted kept her on the line and she didn't make her call quota.
And I already pointed out, Mara, that sometimes people have no other option. There have been a lot of people here in my office who are basically stuck here, because they aren't qualified for anything else, and because that job flipping burgers isn't enough to pay everything they have to pay.
But both of you, put yourself in THEIR shoes for a moment. They're doing a job. They're trying to get through a script. They don't need someone trying to be cute making their day even harder.
People that give telemarketers a hard time make me sick, honestly. Too fucking concerned about themselves to think of the person on the other line enough to at least politely rebuff, instead of being an ass.
I did politely rebuff.
The first three thousand times.
Then it got annoying and I learned the truth; that there is no cure for the blight upon society that is telemarketing. So now I express upon those people who call me, my true feelings of annoyance.
BECAUSE IT BUGS THE SHIT OUT OF ME WHEN SOME PERSON CALLS ME UP OUT OF NOWHERE, INTERRUPTS WHATEVER IT IS I AM DOING, TO TRY AND SELL ME A STUPID USELESS BROOM-MOP.
I'm still upset over that. I was sleeping. [ 07-13-2002: Message edited by: Khyron ]
But basically the point is this. Those are real people on that other line. Real people doing a job. It may not be a job you would choose, but sometimes it's all they have.
And Khyron, you don't like it when people call and are rude and nasty and snide to you, so why would you approve doing it to someone else?
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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There was much rejoicing when Lyinar Ka`Bael said this:
If you don't want to be called anymore, then they DO have a "Do Not Call" list that they HAVE to put you on if you request it.But basically the point is this. Those are real people on that other line. Real people doing a job. It may not be a job you would choose, but sometimes it's all they have.
And Khyron, you don't like it when people call and are rude and nasty and snide to you, so why would you approve doing it to someone else?
The difference being, I am providing a service that people call ME to request if they want it.
Rather than calling up people out of the blue trying to sell them something they don't.
See the difference?
We advertise on TV, Newspaper, radio. We don't bother people by cold-calling.
If someone wants our service, we let them call US. We don't take it upon ourselves to give THEM a call.
So if they get mad at me, I hang up on them. They're the ones that want our service. They're the ones that are not justified by yelling at a person trying to help them.
Yelling at someone who is trying to sell you a service you don't want by calling you up at an inopportune time is a VASTLY different creature entirely. I don't see how you can compare the two.
Someone calls you, and they're rude and nasty and snide, and you're just trying to do your job and they can't understand this.
A telemarketer calls someone, just trying to do their script, make their quota, and they have to deal with some ass being a jerk, being snide and rude and nasty and they're just trying to do their job, but the jerk doesn't understand that.
You want people to make your life easier by calling and not being that way, so you can make your money. Well, the telemarketer wouldn't mind if someone was polite for once, instead of getting a goddamned stick up their ass, and make it easier for them to earn that paycheck.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
I guess its just cause living near such a business heavy city, theres so many companies that do phone solicitation. Verizon, the 903745237 different Newspapers, AT&T, MCI... you just get sick of answering the phone to something/someone your not really wanting to talk to that makes it annoying for me. [ 07-13-2002: Message edited by: Skaw ]
Ha-ha-haaah! 
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Someone calls you, and they're rude and nasty and snide, and you're just trying to do your job and they can't understand this.
What you left out of this sentence is this :
Someone calls you 'ON THEIR OWN TIME, RATHER THAN JUST AT ANY TIME BEIT INOPPORTUNE OR NOT', and they're rude and nasty and snide, and you're just trying to do your job 'PROVIDING THEM WITH THE SERVICE THEY REQUESTED' and you can't understand this'.
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A telemarketer calls someone, just trying to do their script, make their quota, and they have to deal with some ass being a jerk, being snide and rude and nasty and they're just trying to do their job, but the jerk doesn't understand that.
Once more, you left bits out.
A telemarketer calls someone 'OUT OF THE BLUE', just trying to do their script 'WHICH IS SELLING A PRODUCT THEY NEVER REQUESTED', make their quota, and they have to deal with some ass being a jerk, being snide and rude and nasty and they're just trying to do their job 'DESPITE THE FACT THAT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT THOSE PHONE CALLS ARE UNWANTED AND UNREQEUSTED', but the person doesn't understand that.
That's the point I'm making. That the difference between MY job and a TELEMARKETERS job is that I don't annoy people by calling them out of the blue. The only outbound calls I make are REQUESTED. The people actually SIGNED UP to receive these.
If the Telemarketers called people who requested it, I could understand it and would not be so upset over it, but I have my own phone line and I NEVER requested ANY calls from ANYONE, yet they call me and annoy me at times when I'd honestly prefer not to be annoyed.
Hell, I don't mind when ugly prostitutes try to get me to have sex with them, they're just doing their job.
I sure don't mind when some coke-ravaged burnout comes up and starts yelling at me trying to get me to buy some cocaine, he's just doing his fucking job.
By calling me, they deserve as much respect as they have already given me - abso-fucking-lutely none. I did not wish to be bothered.
I always try to be nice to telemarketers. I'm firm in my refusal, but I don't dick around with them. I think wasting their time playing "jokes" like the first thing posted in this thread is more rude any day than calling someone on the phone. The person dicking around with them is just losing time. The person calling is losing money for the company, and might even lose *all* their security by getting fired because of it.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
[ 07-13-2002: Message edited by: Densetsu ]
It's against the law to call after 9pm.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Lyinar Ka`Bael was listening to Cher while typing:
Do you go to bed early or something?It's against the law to call after 9pm.
They call me early in the morning.
Every.
Single.
Morning.
Or, they have to average a certain number of calls an hour. But you keep them on the line, so they don't make it.
So it *does* cause damage.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about dark elf butts:
Do you go to bed early or something?It's against the law to call after 9pm.
It's also against the law to call before 9 AM.
But what about me? I want to sleep in later than 9 AM some days. BUT FUCKER BROOM MOP SALEFUCKERS DON'T LET ME.
It's a national law that they can't call before 9am and after 9pm.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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So quoth Densetsu:
They call me early in the morning.Every.
Single.
Morning.
Unplug your phone before you go to sleep, dumbass. 
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
Not all invasive sales calls are made by rude employees, but they are all made by employees who fully understand thier job description.
