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Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about the Spice Girls:
Before 9am in the morning?It's a national law that they can't call before 9am and after 9pm.
They get around it by calling from other time zones I guess. Plus I sleep later than 9pm.
Though it's not ALWAYS telemarketers, it's either them or bill collectors.
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Nobody really understood why Giantt wrote:
Unplug your phone before you go to sleep, dumbass.
I'm the only one that answers the phone, so I have to be able to answer it in case it's family or something.
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Lyinar Ka`Bael wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
You could just as easily get a phone call from someone you know that wakes you up, Khy. Turn off the ringer if you want to sleep in.
I'm not Khy. [ 07-13-2002: Message edited by: Densetsu ]
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Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about Cuba:
You could just as easily get a phone call from someone you know that wakes you up, Khy. Turn off the ringer if you want to sleep in.
He may want the phone call from someone he knows. He shouldn't have to give up the chance of getting a phone call from a friend/loved one/cow-worker because someone has a quota to meet.
All I'm saying is, if you're hired to harass people, expect to be treated like you're harassing people.
Do you think anyone would hesitate to prosecute a Mafia hitman since he's "just doing his job"?
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So quoth Maradön²:
Calls from cow-workers can be very important.All I'm saying is, if you're hired to harass people, expect to be treated like you're harassing people.
Do you think anyone would hesitate to prosecute a Mafia hitman since he's "just doing his job"?
I would hesitate to prosecute a Mafia hitman.
I mean, FUCK, he's a mafia hitman!
And no, they are NOT allowed to call before 9am period, not just 9am their time zone.
We currently have an outbound project going on here. We have people calling on behalf of Sallie Mae Loan Consolidation, contacting people that requested info packets from us, to make sure they received a packet. Basically a follow-up. So it's not quite cold-calling, and it doesn't fall under the new laws because the people requested information from Sallie Mae first.
Their system carefully tracks the time in each time zone they call in. They aren't allowed to call after 9pm in any given time zone. When 9pm comes for the time zone they're in, the system automatically switches them over to the next time zone.
So no, they can't get around it calling from a different time zone. If they're calling before 9am, then that IS illegal, and you can report them for it.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about Punky Brewster:
We currently have an outbound project going on here. We have people calling on behalf of Sallie Mae Loan Consolidation, contacting people that requested info packets from us, to make sure they received a packet. Basically a follow-up. So it's not quite cold-calling, and it doesn't fall under the new laws because the people requested information from Sallie Mae first.
So you're arguing in defense of calls like this, or are you arguing in defense of telemarketers who do call, and call repeatedly, uninvited?
Really I don't see any reason for you to disagree unless you're condoning repeat unsolicited calls.
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Lyinar Ka`Bael Model 2000 was programmed to say:
You could just as easily get a phone call from someone you know that wakes you up, Khy. Turn off the ringer if you want to sleep in.
If it's from someone I know then it's justified.
If it's from someone trying to sell me some stupid lame product that I don't want, need, or have any use for, then it ain't.
I'm just arguing in defense of the people that make the calls. I'm asking people to realize that it's a real person on that line (unless it's a recording, which I'm not talking about), and that dicking around with them I think is rude and shouldn't be done. Hanging up, fine, hang up, it's okay. Dicking around and wasting time and playing "jokes", no, I don't agree with it.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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This one time, at Lyinar Ka`Bael camp:
And no, they are NOT allowed to call before 9am period, not just 9am their time zone.
I know, I'm saying I wanted to sleep in PAST 9 AM. If it's a friend calling, I have no problem with that. My friends know that they can call whenever. Some stranger I don't know trying to sell me a broom-mop SHOULD NOT FUCKING CALL ME EVER. Grrrrrr.
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We currently have an outbound project going on here. We have people calling on behalf of Sallie Mae Loan Consolidation, contacting people that requested info packets from us, to make sure they received a packet. Basically a follow-up. So it's not quite cold-calling, and it doesn't fall under the new laws because the people requested information from Sallie Mae first.Their system carefully tracks the time in each time zone they call in. They aren't allowed to call after 9pm in any given time zone. When 9pm comes for the time zone they're in, the system automatically switches them over to the next time zone.
So no, they can't get around it calling from a different time zone. If they're calling before 9am, then that IS illegal, and you can report them for it.
That's true. And I have no problem with that.
Why?
People REQUEST the stuff. I whole-heartedly support that stuff.
It's the dumbfucks that call me up when I never requested a thing, that make me hate telemarketers. I don't want your service, I never requested a call from you, why these people took it upon themselves to call ME up and bother ME with their solicitations, is beyond me. It's an annoyance, a nuisance, and I hate it.
Much like I hate pop-up ads.
Not only do they most often MISpronouce my name as Howie(THERE IS A SILENT FUCKING E YOU FUCKING MORON!!!) they ask for my mother. She doesn't live hear so I usually just end it with "My dad works until 7, my mom doesn't live hear, have fun." I know that I'm probably going to be called back later that day by the same service however I also know that it is unusual for a telemarketer to call after 6.
I just plain don't like telemarketers. They always fucking call me when I'm sniping some one in fire arms too. I don't like to be inturupted by ANY one while I game, exceptions are Sam and my dad. Not some stranger trying to sell something to me.
[ 07-13-2002: Message edited by: Khyron ]
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
The only thing I'm speaking up against here is the dicking around and playing tricks. In my opinion, there's no reason for it except to be an immature, inconsiderate, pompous ass.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
Hanging up :
Pros : Gets them off the phone.
Cons : They call back.
Annoying them back because they annoyed you :
Pros : Gives them a taste of what THEY are already doing to you. Gives you a bit of amusement out of an otherwise annoying event. Also gets them off the phone. Sometimes even gives THEM a bit of a laugh.
Cons : They 'may' get in trouble for it. [ 07-13-2002: Message edited by: Khyron ]
Easy way to solve it:
"Add me to your "Do not call" list"
*click*
That will keep them from calling you back in most cases. Sometimes they buy a bad list, though, that has people listed numerous times, as separate accounts. That's the only time you'll get another call if you make the "Do not call" list request.
My company, at least, tries to be careful about this, making sure they screen the list before it's uploaded to the system. And if they have an instance of double calls, then they immediately try to remedy it.
Most companies, except unscrupulous ones, will do all they can to keep you from being called once you're added to their list.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
Just like everyone saying that marines are stupid jarheads. It aint true, but hell if anyone is going to stop saying that 
I have not had many problems with telemarketers up here, though. Guess we are just lucky ^_^ However the ones we do recieve, I get to have a bit of fun with.
"Hi, is (my moms name) there?"
"Ah... no, sorry."
"Do you have any idea when she will be back?"
"Ohhh... about never."
"What?"
"Just little problems. For instance, her being rather dead. I could put the phone up to her urn, would you like that?"
*click*
*victory dance*
Used Babelfish a lot, as well as multiple dictionaries, but I have a ready-made message should a telemarketer call me in the middle of something. Usually goes, in the language I've chosen: "Hello? Sorry, I don't speak English. Are you trying to make a connection to someone else? I think you have the wrong number. Maybe try the phone book?" Usually the telemarketer hangs up after the second sentence 
Lyinar, while I know they're trying to do their job, its just patently offensive profession, because they call at the worst possible times, like early morning, lunch, dinner, or late night, all when people have different stuff they want to do. I'd be more willing to listen to their spiel if they called say in mid-afternoon, and most times I just say, "Not interested," or "Please don't call me back again," but when I am annoyed, its time for becoming the "wrong-number foreigner".
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Check out the big brain on Lyinar Ka`Bael!
The only thing I'm speaking up against here is the dicking around and playing tricks. In my opinion, there's no reason for it except to be an immature, inconsiderate, pompous ass.
Well, yes, but sometimes being an immature, inconsiderate, pompous ass is quite entertaining.
I would certainly understand if I were a telemarketer. Heck, I'd probably play along.
[ 07-13-2002: Message edited by: Lyinar Ka`Bael ]
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
Know why? They'd be wasting my time, and they'd be getting paid for it, so I'll have a bit of fun with them.
Don't like that? Tough shit. Simple as that.
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Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about Cuba:
They *will* get in trouble for it. You aren't supposed to chit chat with the person. You're supposed to read the script and take their responses and that's that.Easy way to solve it:
"Add me to your "Do not call" list"
*click*That will keep them from calling you back in most cases. Sometimes they buy a bad list, though, that has people listed numerous times, as separate accounts. That's the only time you'll get another call if you make the "Do not call" list request.
My company, at least, tries to be careful about this, making sure they screen the list before it's uploaded to the system. And if they have an instance of double calls, then they immediately try to remedy it.
Most companies, except unscrupulous ones, will do all they can to keep you from being called once you're added to their list.
I'll be honest with you. I truly and honestly beleive that these people should get another job. I know that isn't what you want to hear, often that task alone proves to be difficult at best, but if someone can not handle it, then it's the option that is left.
These people are calling me up for a service. They are selling that service for a company, and thus, they are the representatives of that company. They are making that company seem worse in my eyes for what they do. I will tease, taunt, play with, and be very rude to these people simply because I think that what they are doing it me is very rude.
I never wanted, requested, or in any other way PROMPTED them to call me. They called me. They called me at some random time. If I'm in a good mood, I'll hang up or say no. If I'm in a bad mood, well, they get to deal with it. That's what comes with the job, of calling up people to sell a product when they never requested a call.
What gives them the right to call me in the first place? What gives their company the right to disturb me during my day? What gives me the right to be an ass to them? The fact that they were the ones that initiated the call without any prior consent on my part.
And that is why I will continue to be an ass when I'm in a bad mood. They represent their company selling me their product, and their company is the company that requested this. I can and will voice my displeasure about this as loudly and as strongly as I feel necessary.
I may play a prank. I may do something rude. If they don't like it, tough shit, they shouldn't have called me. [ 07-13-2002: Message edited by: Khyron ]
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
You're representing your company, and your company isn't able to follow through. So that means they can pick on you, right?
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
I've gotten the same person in some instances.
"Didn't I tell you to add me to your do not call list?"
"This is a new and original product!"
"right..."
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Verily, Maradön² doth proclaim:
As a side note, I've never, ever had a telemarketer honor thier "Do not call" list.I've gotten the same person in some instances.
"Didn't I tell you to add me to your do not call list?"
"This is a new and original product!"
"right..."
That's an unscrupulous company. That's very very bad business. I'm always against practice like that.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Maradön² had this to say about the Spice Girls:
As a side note, I've never, ever had a telemarketer honor thier "Do not call" list.I've gotten the same person in some instances.
"Didn't I tell you to add me to your do not call list?"
"This is a new and original product!"
"right..."
I fucking had that happen yesterday for some life insurance telemarketer.
He called it a "better plan" or better rate or something.
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Lyinar Ka`Bael wrote this stupid crap:
So the people that call you for service, Khy, and you aren't able to give it, are fully justified insulting, belittling, degrading and mocking you because you're not helping them and are just wasting their time?You're representing your company, and your company isn't able to follow through. So that means they can pick on you, right?
Yes, they can. And we encourage as much input from our customers as we possibly can. And if they get abusive, I hang up.
As the representative of my company, Lyinar, I can and will do everything I can to help my customer, even though I may be annoyed to no end by their stupidity. I will help them and I will give my company a positive image whenever possible.
If a Telemarketer doesn't like what I'm doing on the phone, they can hang up on me, and I won't mind a bit!
Their employer says they can't? Well, their job is to call me. They called me. Their employer isn't going to tell me how to act on the phone. I'm damn well gonna act however I want on the phone with them. They can call me up, they can annoy me during times when I don't want to be annoyed, they can wake me up when I'm asleep, but they sure as hell can't tell me how to act with them. [ 07-13-2002: Message edited by: Khyron ]
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Lyinar Ka`Bael was naked while typing this:
I dislike your threads about being rude to telemarketers, blah blah blah.
If you don't like it, don't read it.
And I'm getting sick of that fucking picture, you asshole. Drysart has already reminded you all I'm free to express an opinion in a debate, as I'm doing. Technically, you're hatemongering and harrassing, and I'd love to see Drysart blacklist your ass for continuing it.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Giantt had this to say about Tron:
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