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Kaiote*
Pancake
posted 03-05-2008 08:17:07 PM
Ok.. i'm outnumbered by "Because I said so" people..

you win.

Greenlit
posted 03-05-2008 08:54:58 PM
You're outnumbered by rational people.
Demos
Pancake
posted 03-05-2008 10:05:42 PM
Well, it is kinda overly ambitious to think you can change the mind of an irrational person with logic, as is the opposite.
"Jesus saves, Buddha enlightens, Cthulhu thinks you'll make a nice sandwich."
Kaiote*
Pancake
posted 03-06-2008 03:32:28 AM
quote:
Greenlit stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
You're outnumbered by rational people.

Yep.. cause you said so.
You win.

Maradon!
posted 03-06-2008 06:48:25 AM
Well, we demonstrated too, and you just behaved as if we didn't.
Steven Steve
posted 03-06-2008 07:16:57 AM
I've never been this close to anyone, or anything.
I can hear your thoughts... I can see your dreams!

Wait that's not how it goes is it, shit.

Steven Steve fucked around with this message on 03-06-2008 at 07:20 AM.

"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 03-06-2008 01:25:39 PM
quote:
Bent over the coffee table, Kaiote* squealed:
How can you have belief beyond a shadow of a doubt.. without absolute proof either way?

Here it is in small words for the thinking impaired (you):

1. It's not possible to prove the non-existence of a thing.

2. It is possible to prove the existence of a thing.

3. In the absence of proof that something exists, disbelief is the only logical position, and requires no evidence in support.

4. Your statement is, once again, nonsense.

Honestly, get a clue. You keep whining that people who say something doesn't exist somehow have a burden of proof and if they continue the assertion, that is tantamount to faith. This is wrong according to every principle of logic and rational thought. The person who has a positive assertion (God exists) has the burden of proof; failing that burden logically demonstrates the negative.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Kaiote*
Pancake
posted 03-06-2008 04:50:47 PM
Ok.. I'll make this really fucking simple.

I have faith. I admit it is irrational.
I don't give a shit how the rest of you feel.

You win.
Move the fuck on.

Demos
Pancake
posted 03-06-2008 05:15:52 PM
quote:
Verily, Kaiote* doth proclaim:
Ok.. I'll make this really fucking simple.

I have faith. I admit it is irrational.
I don't give a shit how the rest of you feel.

You win.
Move the fuck on.


Nobody has a problem with your faith. Only when you try to pass it off as logical or claim that disbelief in something that can't be proven is illogical.

"Jesus saves, Buddha enlightens, Cthulhu thinks you'll make a nice sandwich."
Kaiote*
Pancake
posted 03-06-2008 06:12:11 PM
What part of "You guys win" are you not getting here?
I have faith, therefore, I cannot say that I was proven wrong, as I do not believe that I am. I'm also not trying to make anybody else believe the way I do. And since it was starting to feel like I was trying to make people think my way.. I stopped.

So I figure the only way to end it is to let everybody else win and feel superior.

So you guys win.

Maradon!
posted 03-06-2008 07:02:59 PM
Anyway male dress shoes really suck
Azakias
Never wore the pants, thus still wields the power of unused (_|_)
posted 03-06-2008 07:07:13 PM
quote:
Maradon! thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Anyway male dress shoes really suck

All dress shoes suck.

I had to stand watch from midnight to 0800 last night. In my dress uniform. With new dress shoes. My feet are about to fall off.

"Age by age have men stood up and said to the world, 'From what has come before me, I was forged, but I am new and greater than my forebears.' And so each man walks the world in ruin, abandoned and untried. Less than the whole of his being"
Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 03-07-2008 09:55:18 AM
quote:
Bloodsage had this to say about the Spice Girls:
Yes.

Next question.


Tell that to Descartes.

I hate that arrogant bitch.

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 03-07-2008 02:41:19 PM
quote:
Vorbis startled the peaceful upland Gorillas, blurting:
Tell that to Descartes.

I hate that arrogant bitch.


Yeah; it's a fun, but impractical notion.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Maradon!
posted 03-07-2008 07:21:35 PM
I never understood how solipsists could prove that even their minds really existed.
Steven Steve
posted 03-07-2008 07:30:07 PM
The only important part is that their minds exist in a way that others' don't
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Kinanik
Upset about being titless
posted 03-09-2008 05:32:04 PM
Thinking requires an object to think about, because one can't think about 'nothing,' as it's not thinking.

So, something other than the mind must exist.

Therefore, Descartes is a douche.

Hypothesis proved.

Thank you Phenomenology!

Gully Foyle is my name
And Terra is my nation
Deep space is my dwelling place
The stars my destination
Greenlit
posted 03-09-2008 05:37:03 PM
Phenomenology? Is that a study of The Undertaker?
Arttemis
Not Squire... but a guitar!
posted 03-09-2008 05:46:03 PM
quote:
Kinanik said this about your mom:
Thinking requires an object to think about, because one can't think about 'nothing,' as it's not thinking.

So, something other than the mind must exist.

Therefore, Descartes is a douche.

Hypothesis proved.

Thank you Phenomenology!


I guess thinking about the mind is just right out

Steven Steve
posted 03-09-2008 05:51:37 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7M-cmNdiFuI
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 03-10-2008 01:25:23 PM
quote:
Quoth Arttemis:
I guess thinking about the mind is just right out

Or pure imagination.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 03-10-2008 01:35:17 PM
What was the last thing you didn't imagine that wasn't, when you break it down, a juxtaposition of things you have observed?
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 03-10-2008 01:47:43 PM
quote:
Verily, the chocolate bunny rabbits doth run and play while Blindy. gently hums:
What was the last thing you didn't imagine that wasn't, when you break it down, a juxtaposition of things you have observed?

It depends. If you go with Descartes, it's all the time. The point being, of course, that you can't disprove Descartes by claiming it's not possible to imagine something that doesn't exist.

The bottom line isn't that it's possible to disprove solipsism, but rather that it works out as an impractical, rather pointless philosophy. The next time someone pulls the, "Nothing but my mind can be proven to exist," bullshit, simply invite him or her to step out in front of the nearest car or train as a test of whose philosophy is best.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

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