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Elvish Crack Pipering:
So, why can't it be time sensitive and still have them plan it for a day with the same numbers as emergency?Seems just as easy to plan something for 9/10 as 9/11.
Look it's like this
They weren't planning for 9/10 or 9/11 or any other single day. They were planning on a certain time frame to watch for a particular window of opportunity - most notably they would have to wait for three suitable flights to be scheduled from three suitable airports at three suitable times.
Then, once these 3 planets align, they have to get on the flight without any red flags going off and forcing an abort. Even before 9/11 there were things like screeners and explosive sniffing dogs that could put the plan in jeopardy and force everybody to abort for another day.
If they'd said "WE CAN ONLY GO ON (X) DAY FOR IT'S SYMBOLIC VALUE!!", it'd be incredibly unlikely for them to magically find amicable conditions at any time during that day. To have ANY chance at succeeding, they'd need to plan around the flight schedules and other factors, NOT some barely pertinent symbolic day/date combination.
woo zealots and shit!
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Alidane obviously shouldn't have said:
Man, why can't I find my fucking Starcraft discs now? I really want to play through the first one in anticipation.
I left mine up at school. 3 hour drive each way or 20 bucks for a new battle chest...
I bought the battle chest 
quote:Good call. The gas alone would've run you the 20 bucks.
Falaanla Marr needs to hitch a ride with a Vogon constructor fleet.
I bought the battle chest
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`Doc Model 2000 was programmed to say:
Good call. The gas alone would've run you the 20 bucks.
375 miles @ 25 miles per gallon = 15 gallons of gas.
15 gallons x $3.20 = $48. lol.
The fun part is going to be the move to Wisconsin later. 1000+ miles = a good $120+ of gas.
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Mortious wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Wonder what they'll blatently rip from WH40k this time around.
Terrans have Assault Marines, now.
Marines with jetpacks and pistols. They call them Reapers.
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Zephyer Kyuukaze said:
Terrans have Assault Marines, now.Marines with jetpacks and pistols. They call them Reapers.
Oh God. Hahahaha.
I'm still in amazement as to why Games Workshop hasn't sued Blizzard into bankruptcy. Their one and only original idea was Diablo. The rest are so blatently copied that it's almost comedy.
I'm not talking about the idea of it. The thing that gets to me is that the two worlds, the races, and the way those races interact is almost 99% identical to GW products.
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Blindy. said:
Oh no a fantasy environment that is similar to another fantasy environment! Those bastards!
Did you even read a word I typed, or is this a kneejerk reply?
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Blindy. had this to say about John Romero:
Oh no a fantasy environment that is similar to another fantasy environment! Those bastards!
I don't think that mort is saying similarity is bad. I don't think borrowing stuff is bad, either.
However, things feel very blatantly ripped off at points in Starcraft. The old Terrans, for example, look very very very similar to Space Marines (and the new ones, even more so). The Protoss bear a striking resemblance to the Eldar -- in particular, the new walker unit looks an awful lot like the Eldar Warwalker. Hell, if you watch the video, the protoss walker things weapon is a laser meant for masses of weak troops. Guess what? The warwalker has an identical weapon meant for infantry. The Zerg are near-copies of the Tyranids -- take a look at some nid warrior minis sometime. They look a lot like Hydralisks. It isn't a passing resemblance or even minor similarities, it feels like it could have just as easily had the Warhammer 40K name slapped on it and passed as a Warhammer 40k game.
I think GW hasn't sued the shit out of Blizzard because they also seem to have borrowed some ideas back, so to speak. Falaanla Marr fucked around with this message on 05-22-2007 at 07:48 PM.
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GW apparently doesn't care or just plain doesn't have a solid case against Blizzard. Maybe they're just scared of Vivendi's lawyers. Who knows?
either way, even though Blizzard games often have pretty decent stories the biggest and most important facet of any given Blizzard game in the last 13 years is the multiplayer. I enjoyed the hell out of Starcraft's story and I don't really care if they rip every single detail off from someone else as long as it's well told and enjoyable Kegwen fucked around with this message on 05-22-2007 at 08:50 PM.
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Elvish Crack Pipering:
Uhh,I read that part on gamespot.com's coverage too Mara, however according to this from gw's main page the've been here is that the tyranids as we know them have been evolving since 87.
"Alien" was released in 1979, and Giger's art was plastered all over Fangoria covers long before...
and actually I don't ever, ever read gamespot for anything, ever, because they're filthy with ads and facilitate gold farmers Maradon! fucked around with this message on 05-22-2007 at 09:58 PM.
Not talking about aliens, but your date on tyranids in 40k. Which was 11 years off.
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Mortious was naked while typing this:
Wonder what they'll blatently rip from WH40k this time around.
Andy Chambers is the one of the creative designers. We'll just leave it at that.
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This one time, at Maradon! camp:
Hey guys, guess what, Tyranids weren't even a part of WH40K until third edition was released in 1998, about 19 years after H.R. Geiger invented them for the movies "Alien" and 5 years after "Aliens"
Tyranids have been around since RT and before. Space hulk, zoats, 2nd edition tyranid codex etc...
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Dave had this to say about pies:
Tyranids have been around since RT and before. Space hulk, zoats, 2nd edition tyranid codex etc...
Space Hulk only featured Genestealers, and I'm pretty sure they weren't even recognized as an official 40k unit until Tyranids, which was much later.
If nobody ever copied anybody else, we'd still be primordial apes.
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Maradon! stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
The point is that zoanthropes, most gaunts, and lots of other tyranid's are a direct ripoff of Giger's Alien.If nobody ever copied anybody else, we'd still be primordial apes.
As much as I hate to quote Eliot, I'm forced to admit he gets something right every so often.
"immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least something different."
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Kegwen said:
the biggest and most important facet of any given Blizzard game in the last 13 years is the multiplayer
I tried Starcraft's multiplayer but all I got paired with or fought against were angsty 13 to 17 year old assholes who did nothing but talk trash. That put me off RTS multiplayer for a long time.
It's rare these days that games end with "gg 
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Mortious wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
I tried Starcraft's multiplayer but all I got paired with or fought against were angsty 13 to 17 year old assholes who did nothing but talk trash. That put me off RTS multiplayer for a long time.It's rare these days that games end with "gg
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At least that weren't Korean 13 to 17 year olds that destroyed you in 5 1/2 minutes I guess
I played a lot of Starcraft multiplayer when the game was newer and there were a lot more "gg"s to be had at the time. I haven't tried Battle.net in years, though
I've been getting GGs from people on C&C3 on Xbox Live, which is weird because Xbox Live is often associated with all that is bad about online gaming
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Mortious wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Oh God. Hahahaha.I'm still in amazement as to why Games Workshop hasn't sued Blizzard into bankruptcy. Their one and only original idea was Diablo. The rest are so blatently copied that it's almost comedy.
yeah I've been saying this for about the last 9-10 years.
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Maradon! spewed forth this undeniable truth:
The point is that zoanthropes, most gaunts, and lots of other tyranid's are a direct ripoff of Giger's Alien.If nobody ever copied anybody else, we'd still be primordial apes.
In conclusion, Starcraft 2 represents the latest and greatest evolution in human society
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Mortious Model 2000 was programmed to say:
I tried Starcraft's multiplayer but all I got paired with or fought against were angsty 13 to 17 year old assholes who did nothing but talk trash. That put me off RTS multiplayer for a long time.It's rare these days that games end with "gg
If you hate playing with little kids, then there's not even a point to thinking about Blizzard games. Here is an excerpt from a conversation in the last Diablo 2 server I was on:
Necro: Stfu man Stalwart Steve fucked around with this message on 05-23-2007 at 11:53 AM.
Druid: Lol stop whining bitch
Necro: How old r u dipshit
Druid: 14
Necro: Hah stupid kid
Druid: y how old r u fagt
Necro: 16
Druid: wow 16 and still playing games LOL!
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
Starcraft ripped off WH who ripped off Aliens. Who cares? The car you drive in, the computer you're typing at, the chair you're sitting in were all ripped off of earlier versions of the same devices.
Why are you sitting in that particular chair? Because you can't afford a better one, you don't care, or you chose it because you like it or something about it better than other chairs.
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Maradon! had this to say about Robocop:
Fortunately, in WoW, the alliance sucks up all the shitty little teenage snots.
Having played both sides on a couple different servers, not so much no.
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Maradon! likes to scream this out during sex:
Fortunately, in WoW, the alliance sucks up all the shitty little teenage snots.
I was going to make a snarky reply, but the RQG did it for me.
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Maradon! had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Fortunately, in WoW, the alliance sucks up all the shitty little teenage snots.
Unfortunately there are plenty of whiny teenage and preteen snots on Horde, too
and to those of you who are bitchin about them stealing ideas..
point back to what the guy above said about H.R. Geiger.. that dudes shit was sweet.. then came the movie aliens.. or go read some Orson Scott Card... and so forth, saying blizzard stole the idea from W40k is like saying Edison stole the idea of creating light from a candle there are millions of candles out there, and none of them compare to the sun, and there are millions of stars out there..
so what if the marines looked like space marines... uh... they ARE space marines.. how many shapes are you going to draw a space marine.. lets see.. two arms.. two legs.. some battle armor.. and a gun.. oh lets put a flame thrower on this one.. and put a shield on this one! woowoo idea stolen!
most of the things i see blizzard "Steal" are giving nods to other games.. in WoW for instance, the whole un'goro quest chain having to do with link, where your reward at the end is a boomerang and linkins sword of mastery
or perhapse delicious cave mold from NetHack.. for people like me who played nethack and all the zelda series from the first release... its great.. all you 40kers out there should feel the same.. blizzard thought the idea was good enough to warrent a nod... btw, there are many more races out there like the protoss long before 40k came up with them.. half the "ancient" friendly alien races in any books from the 40s 50s 60s and so forth were like that.
oh and did you guys see the screen shot of SC2 that has an add.. for Nuke Cola.... Fallout anyone?
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We were all impressed when Neskiairti wrote:
so what if the marines looked like space marines... uh... they ARE space marines.. how many shapes are you going to draw a space marine.. lets see.. two arms.. two legs.. some battle armor.. and a gun.. oh lets put a flame thrower on this one.. and put a shield on this one! woowoo idea stolen!
Have you ever actually looked at a 40k mini? There's similar idea then there's "damn near carbon copy". Try looking up some pictures of Eldar and some pictures of Space Marines, then look at the protoss zealots and the terran marines. I'm sure Blizzard could have varied the look a bit. I think that most of the argument doesn't just come one or two similarities, but the general way the races act towards each other among many other things.
