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Mr. Gainsborough
posted 05-02-2007 03:15:17 AM
quote:
Faelynn LeAndris had this to say about pies:
Oh shit... we were SUPPOSED to ansewer wrong?

I just did the right ansewers. Well damn, and we can't go back at ALL?


Grats dude.

You gotta wait till Friday to see one now.

(I'll breed it tomorrow. I'm busy atm and after this little spat of breeding I'm doing, it's definitely bedtime.)

Mr. Gainsborough fucked around with this message on 05-02-2007 at 03:16 AM.

Mightion Defensor
posted 05-02-2007 04:12:52 AM
I made it to Lucian in the Elite Four... his damned Girafig... should be nicknamed "One-Shot". Anyhoo, I ran out of Revives... but at least I got a few levels out of the deal.

And, what's the difference between the Luck Incense and the Amulet coin? I get double cash from the Luck Incense, and I haven't found the Amulet Coin yet.

Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 05-02-2007 04:44:58 AM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Mightion Defensor wrote:
I made it to Lucian in the Elite Four... his damned Girafig... should be nicknamed "One-Shot". Anyhoo, I ran out of Revives... but at least I got a few levels out of the deal.

And, what's the difference between the Luck Incense and the Amulet coin? I get double cash from the Luck Incense, and I haven't found the Amulet Coin yet.


Amulet Coin is in one of the ruins out in the Cute Pokemon Walk Park.


My LAUNCHCast Station
"Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
I got lost for an hour and became god.
Liam
Swims in Erotic Circles
posted 05-02-2007 11:52:31 AM
quote:
Mightion Defensor got a whole lot of nerve:
I made it to Lucian in the Elite Four... his damned Girafig... should be nicknamed "One-Shot". Anyhoo, I ran out of Revives... but at least I got a few levels out of the deal.

And, what's the difference between the Luck Incense and the Amulet coin? I get double cash from the Luck Incense, and I haven't found the Amulet Coin yet.


Just special sweep it's ass with anything half decent. An Alakazam could do it no problem.

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 05-02-2007 08:25:44 PM
4 more mons to complete the Kanto portion of the National Dex.

Anyone got a Lickitung or a Tangela they can breed for me? I don't want to waste a transfer slot on a single evo and I don't want to wait for their swarms.

Will give Feebas, Spiritomb, or any of the mons I have that can be breeded. (363 mons caught here guys, I probably have SOMETHING you want. )

Gadani
U
posted 05-02-2007 11:07:05 PM
how the fuck do i catch azelf? I've tried the quick ball, restarted about 20 times so far and that hasn't worked.

I've tried about 5 times getting him to 1HP and using ultra balls but that doesn't work either.

e: also dusk balls.

fuck i even tried a timer ball one time

Gadani fucked around with this message on 05-02-2007 at 11:23 PM.

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 05-02-2007 11:29:29 PM
False Swipe, Hypnosis, Dusk Balls

There's no secret method, it's just luck. You'll get it eventually.

Sakkra
Office Linebacker
posted 05-02-2007 11:36:01 PM
N/M

Sakkra fucked around with this message on 05-02-2007 at 11:36 PM.

Mightion Defensor
posted 05-03-2007 12:03:49 AM
Wait until Mespirit. One tip: Don't try to follow him.
Mr. Gainsborough
posted 05-03-2007 12:10:01 AM
Runners are hideously easy to track down as long as you know what level the monster is.

- They only switch areas when you do. If you walk back and forth over the border between routes (or a route and a town), they will just keep moving across the map. Do this until they land in the spot you're walking in.

- Do this in a low level area and have a Pokemon leading your party that's A) above the level of the wild Pokemon in the area, and B) lower level than the runner. Use a Repel and walk in tall grass while the runner is in your area and it will be 100% chance of encountering it. Remember, repels only work on Pokemon lower level than you.

After that, just Mean Look/Block and you're free to deal with it as any other legendary.

Liam
Swims in Erotic Circles
posted 05-03-2007 12:15:58 AM
The trick to catching legendaries:

1) Get the highest catch rate ball available
2) Get a fuck load of them
3) Save infront of the targeted once off encounter
4) If they run away, you're fucked, so use a Wobbuffet or something that's fast enough to use a move so that they don't run away
5) Start throwing balls like a retarded mad man. It's usually quite alluring to try and chip their health down and get the status effect on them, but their catch rates are so fucking stupidly low that it's a 2% difference or so. It's not worth your time and frustration, unless you're quite confident in your false sweeper (I'm going to plug Marowak as the best one in the game right here.)
6) If you run out of balls, reset and try it again.

As an aside I'll explain the coolest Marowak in town right now (He seriously makes for a great false sweeper and all around Physical sweeper)

Adamant Marowak w/ Thick Club (2x Attack stat for Marowak)

252 EV in Attack
252 EV in Speed

Double Edge
False Swipe
Bonemerang
Swords Dance or Agility ro something.

This was my 3rd gen setup for Marowak, and it was always really effective. Just need to watch out for Aerial Ace and other special sweepers. I'm still not overly familiar with D/P, but this ought to still be a pretty effective mon.

Edit: Checking LG, I had Brick Break on him as the final move. I'm pouring over the Attackdex now to see if I can slot better stuff on him. Aerial Ace is another good choice for him. Stone Edge might be worth exploring.

Edit the 2nd: Jesus, you can get Belly Drum on him.

Liam fucked around with this message on 05-03-2007 at 12:26 AM.

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 05-03-2007 12:33:01 AM
You spooge way too much over your Marowak, Liam.

(It is pretty ace, tho.)

Liam
Swims in Erotic Circles
posted 05-03-2007 12:36:10 AM
quote:
Mr. Gainsborough got a whole lot of nerve:
You spooge way too much over your Marowak, Liam.

(It is pretty ace, tho.)


it's the thick club okay

Mightion Defensor
posted 05-03-2007 12:59:20 AM
Explain Effort Values to me, if you could. I notice you get different types of EV from fighting different monsters - does that affect vitamins and such?
Mr. Gainsborough
posted 05-03-2007 01:07:37 AM
quote:
Mightion Defensor was listening to Cher while typing:
Explain Effort Values to me.

No.

Argh.

There's a perfectly good guide on Serebii in the Game Mechanics section.

Sakkra
Office Linebacker
posted 05-03-2007 02:54:14 AM
quote:
Mightion Defensor had this to say about (_|_):
Explain Effort Values to me, if you could. I notice you get different types of EV from fighting different monsters - does that affect vitamins and such?

Wait a minute... you bitch and rant and shit the thread up about boosted EXP hampering your pokemons' growth, yet EVs elude you?

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 05-03-2007 09:15:31 AM
quote:
Nobody really understood why Sakkra wrote:
Wait a minute... you bitch and rant and shit the thread up about boosted EXP hampering your pokemons' growth, yet EVs elude you?

Here we go again.

Liam
Swims in Erotic Circles
posted 05-03-2007 10:22:01 AM
Ill explain it!

Every pokemon in the game has EV's as a hidden stat assigned to them. It's static in that it's always the same amount of EV points per pokemon. Effort values are basically what was referred to in the olden days as why levelling up your pokemon naturally was more effective than levelling them up through rare candies, and also why a trainer's pokemon was stronger than a wild one.

The type of EV that a select pokemon has is typically attributed to their major stat. Like, Zubat has 1 speed EV. This also tends to grow in terms of evolutions. A Golbat has 2 Speed EV's and a Crobat has 3 Speed EV's.

You gain EV's every time you gain EXP from a pokemon, so whether you like it or not, you continue to accumulate EV's as you play through. EV raising is typically saved for post game and when you've bred something with a cool movelist and shit.

All pokemon have a max potential of 510 EV's. Every 4 EV points equal out to a single stat point, so like my above marowak example, that translates out to an additional 63 Attack and 63 Speed. Im just lazy when it came to the last six but I think I dumped it into HP or something.

There's a pretty good list of NPC trainers out there that have EV teams built up pretty much for this express purpose that you can rematch every 100 steps. I'll grab that list if there's any interest. Serebii has the EV points listed in the Pokedex at the bottom near the breeding information.

Azymyth
Not gay; just weird
posted 05-03-2007 11:22:28 AM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Mr. Gainsborough wrote:
Most people don't have access to someone else to do this. And it is very annoying.

(Though, it's not exactly hard to find one online.)


Yeah, at present, I only have access to 3 other people that have either version of the game, and I've already talked with 2.

It sucks that I can't search for them until I've seen them.

I suffer from CRS: Can't Remember Shit.

Sig pic done by the very talented SJen!

Liam
Swims in Erotic Circles
posted 05-03-2007 12:04:21 PM
Oh, one more thing to note about EV's: You only get the full benefit from then once your Pokemon turns level 100, so you can rare candy a pokemon up to 99 and then EV train them completely without any set back. It's neat seeing Atk +63 on level up.
Mr. Gainsborough
posted 05-03-2007 12:39:05 PM
6 Magikarps EV speed Trainer

Also, Zincs and Carbos and stuff like that just give an automatic 10 EVs to whatever stat it's raising. 6 of the Berries take away 10 EVs (there's one for each stat) in case you really have something awesome, but you like used it on your main team and fucked up it's EVs real bad during the game's story or something. These berries also increase friendship so your Pokemons will love you more.

Mr. Gainsborough fucked around with this message on 05-03-2007 at 12:41 PM.

Liam
Swims in Erotic Circles
posted 05-03-2007 02:01:46 PM
I can't imagine reducing EV's with those fucking berries unless I knew precisely what I screwed up. God, the heartache of doing that would drive me absolutely insane.

If you really want to EV train a starter, breed a new one. It's not worth the hassle to EV reduce.

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 05-03-2007 02:05:51 PM
Yeah, you need a whole fucking shitload to do anything worth doing.
Mr. Gainsborough
posted 05-03-2007 03:54:36 PM
Yay! Finally hit 400 caught!

100:02 on the game timer. How do I have a job.

Mightion Defensor
posted 05-03-2007 04:42:42 PM
Beat Cynthia last night... my only Pokemon left was my Staraptor which had 17 hp left. Only got him back into the action by letting her Lucario beat on my Luxray; it couldn't knock her out in one shot, so I let her take the abuse while I alternated healing/reviving my Rapidash and Staraptor.

Working on the National now... first ones I transferred over were my hatched Vulpix, Torchic, Treeko, a newly-hatched Feebas (I am NOT hunting that sucker down ever AGAIN), a Mudkip, and a Kecleon.. only to learn I still need a Snorlax.

I've had no luck finding a Munchlax, though I will try to get a Ditto next (Route 218, right?) so I can offer better trades.

If someone can offer me a Munchlax for when I get home tonight, tell me what it will cost me.

Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 05-03-2007 05:19:01 PM
Actually, you can use the EV reducing berries pretty safely. Once you've knocked a stat down to Zero EVs, the berries will tell you that they no longer have any effect. I've already fixed both of my shinies' EVs that way.
Kennatsu
hu�mor 1. That which is intended to induce laughter or amusement: a writer skilled at crafting humor.
posted 05-03-2007 06:36:22 PM
great.... I've been left behind. I'm too busy trying out those Pokemon Contests and raising berries...
Mr. Gainsborough
posted 05-03-2007 07:01:04 PM
After looking through my dex, other than stuff I just haven't bred or evolved to get another form of, I only need 18 Pokemon to complete the dex.

9 of those are on my Ruby file.

Almost there.

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 05-03-2007 08:20:38 PM
Does anyone have a Snubbull gor a Granbull?

It's the last one I need (outside of evolutions and breeding) before the dex is complete.

Mr. Gainsborough fucked around with this message on 05-03-2007 at 08:20 PM.

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 05-03-2007 08:53:03 PM
Evolving, breeding and transferring all that's left.

I caught 'em all, guys.

Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 05-03-2007 11:11:15 PM
quote:
Azymyth attempted to be funny by writing:
Yeah, at present, I only have access to 3 other people that have either version of the game, and I've already talked with 2.

It sucks that I can't search for them until I've seen them.


You can talk to the same person over and over and over again. You just have to leave and re-enter the underground each time.

You have to talk 32 times. Your trainer card will keep count for you.

But you really only need one willing friend, and then you just leave and enter talking to them each time 32 times. AFTER you dumped the odd keystone into the well that is. It wont work if you talk to your friend first and THEN dump a keystone.


My LAUNCHCast Station
"Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
I got lost for an hour and became god.
Liam
Swims in Erotic Circles
posted 05-03-2007 11:22:51 PM
quote:
Mooj has funnier quote texts than me:
Actually, you can use the EV reducing berries pretty safely. Once you've knocked a stat down to Zero EVs, the berries will tell you that they no longer have any effect. I've already fixed both of my shinies' EVs that way.

Yeah, but you're growing and using a metric fuck ton of berries on something so inconsequential. I'd sooner breed a new mon, honestly.

Mightion Defensor
posted 05-04-2007 04:58:39 PM
Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

1. Female starters go really quick on the GTS. I traded a newly hatched female Piplup for a Munchlax in like two minutes... I put it on offer, browsed a bit, then clicked the summary option on the first screen, and had Munchlax. (I got tired of getting Wurmples from Honey trees) Hopefully the male Turtwig I put up there will get me a female one.

2. It just occurred to me I can breed Eevees now. I hope my Ditto has good endurance...

3. I was in the Trophy Garden hoping to catch a Minun, but it appears the homeowner and the butler were lying when they said there were Minun.. all I saw was Roselias and Staravias... and one male Pikachu, which I caught offhandedly.. which I learned later, had a Light Ball. So now I have another Pichu, this one with Thunder Wave, Flash, Thunderbolt, and Volt Tackle.

Anyone got Johto starters to trade? I can make Hoenn or Sinnoh starters (should prolly get my Chimchar a few levels first) Or dare I say, Kanto starters? (I only have three badges on my FireRed)

Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 05-04-2007 06:26:08 PM
God damn, someone needs to come out with a good FAQ of pokemon locations after you get the national dex...
Liam
Swims in Erotic Circles
posted 05-04-2007 07:46:23 PM
quote:
Mooj has funnier quote texts than me:
God damn, someone needs to come out with a good FAQ of pokemon locations after you get the national dex...

Serebii.net?

Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 05-04-2007 09:07:37 PM
handy for finding where specific pokemon are located, but less handy for finding which pokemon are located on a specific route.

Plus, the site is still heavily overloaded and I have about a 1 in 4 chance of loading a page...

kibbs
Pancake
posted 05-05-2007 02:57:32 PM
sup guys yea im new but whatevaz...anyways a bunch of friends at my campus are gonna start doing doubles tourneys and i wanted u guys to tell me what u thought of the pokemon involved with my partner and i

my buddy:
dragonite
tyranitar
togekiss (with hustle)

me:
GENGAR!
snorlax
blissey

pretty basic idea...he makes shit die and i take hits like a champ...gengar crowd control snorlax big tank heavy hitter with rest/sleep talk combo mixed with giga impact or somethin but yea lemme know what u guys think (working on snorlax and blissey as we speak) EV training a slow process in my opinion...but having pkrs makes life a bit easier lol

Greenlit
posted 05-05-2007 03:13:53 PM
l o l
4 real
Liam
Swims in Erotic Circles
posted 05-05-2007 03:14:04 PM
You have the most smogon team ever.
kibbs
Pancake
posted 05-05-2007 04:29:44 PM
sooo wait good or no? lol
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