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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 11-15-2006 05:41:50 PM
"It's a management system that would require a number of hours of work that I am not willing to expend at this point in time when I already have a perfectly functional solution already in place."

IMO, it's the fault of iTunes at that point given that it won't honor the Directory Structure management system that LOTS of early MP3 ripper programs (and to a large degree WinAmp) made easy for people to deal with.

An easy 50% of my music is "improperly" tagged. But since I work on a Band / Album directory structure I know who did what and what album it's on. Easy to find via /bin/bash

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Nina
posted 11-15-2006 06:02:39 PM
quote:
Alaan obviously shouldn't have said:
I'm sure a few people on here have some less than legal music. Lots of it. Retagging that is a bitch.

No it's not.

Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 11-15-2006 08:01:43 PM
quote:
Nina stopped lurking long enough to say:
No it's not.

And it's worth the effort. You'd grind out a level in WoW to get a slightly better spell, but you wouldn't spend 2 hours getting your songs tagged so you can organize it however you want in a database?

Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 11-15-2006 08:18:06 PM
quote:
Blindy. wrote this stupid crap:
And it's worth the effort. You'd grind out a level in WoW to get a slightly better spell, but you wouldn't spend 2 hours getting your songs tagged so you can organize it however you want in a database?

Again, if the system you currently have in place works, why replace it? When you get to the point in WoW where you're grinding that last level to get a new spell the version you have isn't cutting it anymore. There's a need, and a need will motivate greater than a want/"would like".

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Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 11-15-2006 08:51:06 PM
quote:
I wish Random Insanity Generator would say this more often:
Again, if the system you currently have in place works, why replace it? When you get to the point in WoW where you're grinding that last level to get a new spell the version you have isn't cutting it anymore. There's a need, and a need will motivate greater than a want/"would like".

Define "works"?

You can find the song, yes. But can you set up a playlist of all your 3-5 star rated alternative songs after 1998 but before 2003? No.

Some of us like being able to do that kind of thing.

Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 11-15-2006 09:11:44 PM
Some of you have a need to do that.

The rest of us just want to listen to music.

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Nina
posted 11-15-2006 09:16:07 PM
I like my hybrid system. I use the iTunes library but don't have it organize into folders, as it'd end up copying from my fileserver. Whenever I add a CD, I follow a regular filename+directory pattern, and get the album pictures + info from Amazon.com with Tag&Rename. This way works for both filenames and tags.
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 11-15-2006 09:49:04 PM
Oh no, I'm not as hardcore as Blindy. I should be wanting my music software to do things other than simply browsing to the music I want when I know where it is located. No need to be able to sort the library by location here! No sir! I'll get right to putting useless ratings on each and every one of my tracks now!

Seriously Blindy, I shouldn't need to go and download third party software to do something as simple as organize my music. That's silly.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Maradon!
posted 11-15-2006 09:54:24 PM
I'd like to see a retagger that assigns tags based off a directory/filename structure.
Maradon!
posted 11-15-2006 09:57:18 PM
Seriously, I would. Now that I have windows media center in my vista install I can use my 360 as an extender, but media center is based off the same id3 tag sorting bullshit

(this allows me to play any movie that my PC has a codec for - even if the 360 itself doesn't support it, btw)

Norim Stumpfighter
Milkmaid
posted 11-15-2006 09:57:35 PM
quote:
Random Insanity Generator wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
And other than a few minor items.... I have seen no suggestions for 'must have' accessories... I can't believe that the iPod is that perfect.

How much of a pain in the ass is battery replacement in one of these? I remember the original model not having that great a battery life and while I'm getting a newer generation unit I know I'll eventually have to replace the battery pack in the sucker.

My Clie desparately needs a new battery pack.


get yourself a cover of some sort if the used one doesnt come with one. Especially if you want to watch video best to do it w/o all the screen scratches. As stated above, FM transmitters are useful, unless you have a newer car with an mp3 jack. The standard earbuds have pretty good sound quality but the problem is that they don't fit everyone's ears. If you saved as much money as you said on the iPod, maybe you could spend some $ on some "in the ear" headphones. You can get apples base model for around $50 and the high end ones for around $500 (yah right).

If you check out the apple store online there are a ton of different accessories you can browse through to get an idea of cool stuff.

Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 11-15-2006 09:59:22 PM
quote:
Die, Maradon!! You don't belong in this world!
I'd like to see a retagger that assigns tags based off a directory/filename structure.

This would be perfect for me.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Maradon!
posted 11-15-2006 10:01:06 PM
Yes, jesus christ get a sturdy, impact-proof cover. ABSOLUTE MUST-HAVE ACCESSORY.

Screen got all scuffed? You're fucked normal wear is not covered by the warranty.

Bump a table with the iPod in your pocket and now there's a tiny dent in the case? You're fucked it'll never work again and physical damage isn't covered by the warranty.

Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 11-15-2006 11:15:17 PM
quote:
Man, who wouldn't want to be Densetsu:
Oh no, I'm not as hardcore as Blindy. I should be wanting my music software to do things other than simply browsing to the music I want when I know where it is located. No need to be able to sort the library by location here! No sir! I'll get right to putting useless ratings on each and every one of my tracks now!

Seriously Blindy, I shouldn't need to go and download third party software to do something as simple as organize my music. That's silly.


Yeah, just typing the name (or maybe just the first three or four characters) of the band, album, or song that you want would just be so much more work.

Greenlit
posted 11-15-2006 11:19:37 PM
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 11-15-2006 11:41:45 PM
People who sort by file name scare and confuse me

I obsessively ID3 tagged things when they were still releasing new versions of Winamp 2 and way before iTunes ever found its way on to my system.

I'm sorry, but 01 - rockin droogs - the rockin droogs anthem (live in 06 in ur mom arena with drum solo) pains me to see

Maradon!
posted 11-16-2006 12:04:28 AM
quote:
x--KegwenO-('-'Q) :
People who sort by file name scare and confuse me

I obsessively ID3 tagged things when they were still releasing new versions of Winamp 2 and way before iTunes ever found its way on to my system.

I'm sorry, but 01 - rockin droogs - the rockin droogs anthem (live in 06 in ur mom arena with drum solo) pains me to see


Some of us aren't anal retentive.

Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 11-16-2006 12:09:15 AM
quote:
I suppose the same could be said of all Blindy.s...
Yeah, just typing the name (or maybe just the first three or four characters) of the band, album, or song that you want would just be so much more work.

Apparently being able to type the name (or maybe just the first three or four characters) of the filename or directory is too much work.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 11-16-2006 12:48:50 AM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Maradon!:
Some of us aren't anal retentive.

And that's why I love having a database sort this shit for me!

Nina
posted 11-16-2006 01:07:53 AM
quote:
Maradon! spewed forth this undeniable truth:
I'd like to see a retagger that assigns tags based off a directory/filename structure.

Like you even tried to find one.

Nina fucked around with this message on 11-16-2006 at 01:08 AM.

Maradon!
posted 11-16-2006 01:44:07 AM
quote:
Peanut butter ass Shaq Nina booooze lime pole over bench lick:
Like you even tried to find one.

Haha, this is awesome!

nem-x
posted 11-16-2006 02:22:50 AM
It's what I used to tag shit before rockbox was compatible with the newer ipods.

It still is a lot more of a hassle than using file structures that I'm already used to since I don't particullar have folders set up for each artist/album.

Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 11-16-2006 08:45:19 AM
quote:
Greenlit says po-ta-to, I say pa-ta-to:

Ok, first off, that's winamp, not windows explorer, which I've been told is in every way superior to iTunes.

So you can do that with the album name too? I want all the songs on Dark Side of the Moon, in the order they are on the album, now.

WinAmp Method:
-Go to windows explorer
-go to c:\
-go to music
-go to rock
-go to pink floyd
-go to dark side of the moon
(alternatively, hit windowskey-r and type "c:\music\rock\pink floyd\dark side of the moon"
-hit control a (or drag a box around all the songs)
-right click
-select play in winamp
-hope you had the file names containing the track number so that they were selected in the proper order, but since you're too lazy to spend an hour tagging your music, I'd doubt it.

iTunes Method:
-Go to iTunes
-click in search field
-type "dark"
-click on dark side of the moon in the album results
-hit play.

FYI- Exact same 5 steps required for selecting all the music by a specific band or a specific song.

Cadga 2.0
Pancake
posted 11-16-2006 08:50:55 AM
I got a 1gig shuffle, its all I need. It wasnt hard getting gtkpod to work either
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Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 11-16-2006 09:32:36 AM
quote:
Blindy. wrote this stupid crap:

iTunes Method:
-Go to iTunes
-click in search field
-type "dark"
-click on dark side of the moon in the album results
-hit play.

FYI- Exact same 5 steps required for selecting all the music by a specific band or a specific song.



WMP Method is nearly identical, cept you just hit first letter of the artists name with Artist Highlighted and Select from List. The click Album and it plays. Or enter D for "Dark Side" on Albums. Click album, and play.

Ogranizational features of WMP are far superior to iTunes imo (Cleaner and better design I mean). Monica uses iTunes (and I used to) she bitches about it constantly, but uses it for music purchases still.

WMP11 is spiff.

So I can't use the xfer features of WMP with an iPod if I got one, through the sync to external device feature?... I'd HAVE to use iTunes or the one one Nem listed?

Faelynn LeAndris fucked around with this message on 11-16-2006 at 09:33 AM.


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Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 11-16-2006 09:50:40 AM
I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that one, but at least with media player 11 you've got feature parity with iTunes. Saying that windows explorer does more or is better is just laughable.
Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 11-16-2006 12:11:24 PM
quote:
Blindy. had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that one, but at least with media player 11 you've got feature parity with iTunes. Saying that windows explorer does more or is better is just laughable.

Most of the features in WMP11 are similar or identical to those that were in 10 and 9.

Where did Windows Explorer come from? o_O

I don't think I've ever even really used Windows Explorer for anything, I always tend to use whatever the programs internal features for browsing are like PS's browser or just manually using My Computer.

Nevermind, I see it, they were talking about explorer and not WMP... Got confused.

Still didn't answer my question though... I'm looking at MP3 players for work, and I like the spiffy teeny tiny ipod thingy thats like the size of a Gamecube memory card I saw a while back. So I can't use WMP's sync features through an external device, only iTunes or Nem's?

Faelynn LeAndris fucked around with this message on 11-16-2006 at 12:13 PM.


My LAUNCHCast Station
"Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
I got lost for an hour and became god.
Maradon!
posted 11-16-2006 12:54:32 PM
quote:
Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Faelynn LeAndris who doth quote:
So I can't use WMP's sync features through an external device, only iTunes or Nem's?

That is correct.

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 11-16-2006 01:08:00 PM
quote:
Quoth Alaan:
I'm sure a few people on here have some less than legal music. Lots of it. Retagging that is a bitch.

Too fucking bad. "Wah, the software doesn't support my illegal habit!" is the lamest excuse evar.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Y.O.T.C
No longer a Towel Girl
posted 11-16-2006 02:11:54 PM
Be a microsoft whore, get a zune. I'd give it a week before someone cracks the 3 day thing on the wireless transfer.
Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 11-16-2006 02:13:56 PM
quote:
Y.O.T.C probably says this to all the girls:
Be a microsoft whore, get a zune. I'd give it a week before someone cracks the 3 day thing on the wireless transfer.

That thing is ugly and clunky.

What I need HAS to be small for more than just convienence reasons.

What about CL's little Armband one? I can't seem to bring up jack at the moment.

Faelynn LeAndris fucked around with this message on 11-16-2006 at 02:19 PM.


My LAUNCHCast Station
"Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
I got lost for an hour and became god.
Maradon!
posted 11-16-2006 04:14:09 PM
I see you drew another picture of a girl with rippling muscles, Fae
Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 11-16-2006 11:34:04 PM
quote:
A sleep deprived Maradon! stammered:
I see you drew another picture of a girl with rippling muscles, Fae

There's no rippling muscles there. She's just not a fattie.


My LAUNCHCast Station
"Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
I got lost for an hour and became god.
Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 11-16-2006 11:37:34 PM
quote:
Faelynn LeAndris had this to say about dark elf butts:
There's no rippling muscles there. She's just not a fattie.

Well defined muscles.

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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 11-16-2006 11:47:51 PM
quote:
Random Insanity Generator stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
Well defined muscles.

Athletic at best.

Parce outta be happy at least. My avatar is changed.


My LAUNCHCast Station
"Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
I got lost for an hour and became god.
Maradon!
posted 11-17-2006 12:23:21 AM
Looks pretty ripped to me
Nina
posted 11-17-2006 02:58:47 AM
Cadga 2.0
Pancake
posted 11-17-2006 08:36:49 AM
quote:
Nina was naked while typing this:

thats one sexy man rool:

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Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 11-17-2006 10:07:56 AM
Hey, I've seen 1 night in Chyna. She's packing a bigger cock that me.
That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Nina
posted 11-17-2006 12:29:42 PM
Hmm, nevermind.

Nina fucked around with this message on 11-17-2006 at 12:32 PM.

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