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Aaron (the good one)
posted 11-07-2006 12:25:26 PM
Does Libra work on bosses?
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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 11-07-2006 01:10:47 PM
Has Libra ever really worked on any boss? Last game I remember having it it gave very minimilist info, if any (HP and that's about it).

Of course the mob in FFIV that cast Libra on itself over and over again was just funny.

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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 11-07-2006 02:29:25 PM
quote:
Your words are as empty as your soul! Mankind ill needs a savior such as Talonus!
Better to use raise or a phoenix down as your first gambit. In general, other than steal and libra, the technicks are pretty useless until a couple end of game ones.

I'm 30+ hours into the game and have yet to find a Ally: Status = KO or similar in order to CREATE a raise/Phoenix Down gambit.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Talonus
Loner
posted 11-07-2006 04:12:14 PM
quote:
Delidgamond had this to say about dark elf butts:
Does Libra work on bosses?

For HP, not really. It does allow you to see the buffs a mob has though, which is important.

quote:
Densetsu had this to say about Punky Brewster:
I'm 30+ hours into the game and have yet to find a Ally: Status = KO or similar in order to CREATE a raise/Phoenix Down gambit.

Ally:Any -> Phoenix Down. If someone dies, the first person that isn't currently locked into an action will cast phoenix down on the dead person.

Bajah
Thooooooor
posted 11-07-2006 04:35:50 PM
quote:
Out of a possible 10, nem-x scored a straight 1 with:
Inverted Y is for pros

Inverted Y isn't the problem. I'm used to that. Inverted X is what's kicking my white ass.

Nina
posted 11-07-2006 06:00:08 PM
Just tell yourself you're moving the camera around rather than the character.
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 11-07-2006 11:17:31 PM
quote:
What is a Talonus? A miserable little pile of secrets! But enough talk... Have at you!
Ally:Any -> Phoenix Down. If someone dies, the first person that isn't currently locked into an action will cast phoenix down on the dead person.

Oh. I thought if I did that, they would just start using Pheonix Downs on illegal targets with impunity.

Not that I've had a character die yet. Had one X-Zoned, but not KO'd.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Alaan
posted 11-07-2006 11:55:50 PM
quote:
Densetsu's account was hax0red to write:
Oh. I thought if I did that, they would just start using Pheonix Downs on illegal targets with impunity.

Not that I've had a character die yet. Had one X-Zoned, but not KO'd.


Me: That werewolf can't be too bad right? I mean he's 20 feet from a quest loca--ARGH MY FACE.

Arttemis
Not Squire... but a guitar!
posted 11-08-2006 01:53:20 AM
This is probably one of the hardest, if not the single most difficult, of the FFs I've played. I'm completely stuck fighting the dragon in the Golmore Jungle - I can't even get it past half health reliably with quickenings.
CBTao
Pancake
posted 11-08-2006 02:39:45 AM
quote:
Arttemis's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
This is probably one of the hardest, if not the single most difficult, of the FFs I've played. I'm completely stuck fighting the dragon in the Golmore Jungle - I can't even get it past half health reliably with quickenings.

Thats pretty much why the save point before him was a teleport crystal, you'll need to stock up on some status healing stuff before you go, also against big bosses like this, I find that my quickening use is sparse.

Naimah
In a Fire
posted 11-08-2006 12:32:36 PM
Yea, that guy is just a slog fest. The only way he really has to kill you is with the status effects (hurrr, sap and poison). Try to use range as much as possible as you can stay out of its raidus and have enough status effect removal to keep your tank up.
Talonus
Loner
posted 11-08-2006 04:02:42 PM
I can't remember if you get reverse right before or after that point. If you get it before, have two people with range weapons setup with gambits to cast reverse + decoy on a third. This will make the dragon concentrate on the third person, but any damage the dragon does will heal the person, making sap and poison not matter as much. If the other two are using ranged weapons, they shouldn't be hit by the dragon and you won't have to worry about their health.
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 11-08-2006 04:45:21 PM
I had trouble with the Gil Snapper until I figured out you can just silence and blind him and he's pretty much docile after that. Getting blind to land was a bitch, though.

I got really discouraged when I tried to kill him like I do all the marks and layed down a 30k+ damage Quickening just to see 1/5th of his life vanish.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Ryuujin
posted 11-09-2006 02:38:38 PM
quote:
Gadani enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
Also I've found that in the Lhusu Mines, you can walk back and forth across the Twinspan and skeletons will respawn until you kill like 48 of them. Then you zone out, kill the skeletons in that zone, and go back and they spawn again! I made 11,00 gil(all from selling bone chips) chaining 102 skeletons.

I did this too. Those skeletons spawn really quickly just from running back and forth across the span. Zoning to a different area of Lhusu doesn't negate your Battle Chain either. Once you get up to about 80-chain those skellies start dropping 2 bone fragments a pop (396 gil right there). If you're in that part of the storyline, spend an hour or so there just killing skellies and getting money. You'll be able to buy a few nice technicks or weapons from the shops then.

Ryuujin
posted 11-09-2006 02:50:44 PM
Also, what sort of roles did you go for with your characters?

I'm thinking of making Penelo the "healer," Ashe the "Black Mage," but that's about as far as I've thought ahead, having not gotten either into my party yet.

Flea
Pancake
posted 11-09-2006 03:45:43 PM
Black Magic is kinda meh. I wouldn't worry about putting license points into it until later on when you get some of the higher level ones. White magic, then augments seems to be the way to go.
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 11-09-2006 03:55:00 PM
Black Magic is pretty much a necessity for characters that you don't have ranged weapons for, just for the flying mobs. It's not like the LPs should really be a problem for you at the points when you can get Blizzard/Fire/Thunder and later Blizzara/Fire/Thundara. Or you could give everyone licenses with ranged weapons to use just for fliers. Personally I don't feel like switching out equipment that often.

I made Vaan a thief-type. He uses Daggers and Shields/Ninja Swords, has lots of +damage/+hp/+shield block augments. Fran is my "Use the strongest weapon that doesn't fit with the other two" go-to Viera. Right now she's using a Demonsbane and a shield, sometimes she uses a spear, sometimes a bow, whatever's good at the time. Penelo is a Samurai! She's been using a Katana from the get-go.

I've farmed so many LPs that pretty much the only thing that makes any of my characters unique is their weapon selection. They can all use the same armor, magic spells, and augments, with a few exceptions. Licenses are so easy to get, there's really no reason that every character shouldn't be able to use what you would consider "core" abilities, like cure and status removal spells, not to mention so many of the augments. At this point I generally don't even spend LP anymore unless a new items has become available that I don't actually have the licenses for, and even then I'm never wanting for LP.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Alaan
posted 11-10-2006 01:40:29 PM
Stupid question of the day: How do I change my party leader without removing the current one from the party and bouncing the lead around that way?
Aaron (the good one)
posted 11-10-2006 01:45:55 PM
Up and Down D-Pad
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Peter
Pancake
posted 11-10-2006 02:03:47 PM
Am I the only one that thinks Vaan looks like Jacko?
Alaan
posted 11-10-2006 02:08:26 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Peter wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks Vaan looks like Jacko?

Definitely not. His FMV look is fine. His in game model is fucking frightening.

Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 11-10-2006 03:36:40 PM
After the fairly difficult boss battles in the Stilshrine of Miriam, it was pretty anti-climactic when I then one-shotted Judge Bergan with a Quickening. The guy had 17200HPs, and my Quickening was a 5-digit number that began with a 2.
I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
CBTao
Pancake
posted 11-10-2006 08:00:23 PM
I think the difficulty that he's expected to have are his 3 judges, and the fact that he'll start to counter most melee, so he goes chainsaw on your dudes.

I don't think the game designers necessarily expect you to open with a huge chain out of the gate, hell, I save them for finishers nowadays, to ensure that bitch is dead.

Arttemis
Not Squire... but a guitar!
posted 11-11-2006 01:40:01 AM
quote:
Densetsu said this about your mom:
After the fairly difficult boss battles in the Stilshrine of Miriam, it was pretty anti-climactic when I then one-shotted Judge Bergan with a Quickening. The guy had 17200HPs, and my Quickening was a 5-digit number that began with a 2.

I thought those two were fairly easy. I had a Storm Spear on Basch, so he was doing incredible amounts of damage to Mateus, and the magnetic field dude went down to a pair of quickening chains, since its HP were so low.

EDIT: I agree that the next battle was a disappointment, though. I always open with a quickening, so I felt like I was cheating when all it took was one chain to down him.

Arttemis fucked around with this message on 11-11-2006 at 01:41 AM.

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 11-11-2006 02:13:38 AM
So, do the marks ever expire or anything? Can they eventually be 'sniped' from you if you advance the storyline too much? Cos that'd suck.
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 11-11-2006 02:20:52 AM
quote:
It was not by my hand that I am once again given flesh! I was called here by Arttemis who wishes to pay me tribute!
I thought those two were fairly easy. I had a Storm Spear on Basch, so he was doing incredible amounts of damage to Mateus, and the magnetic field dude went down to a pair of quickening chains, since its HP were so low.

By "fairly difficult" I meant as compared to the Judge Bergan fight. As in, didn't die from my opening quickening. The other two I let my gambits take over and my party just melee'd them down with little trouble. I got my ass handed to me by the optional boss afterward, though. I'll come back for him later.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Talonus
Loner
posted 11-11-2006 08:07:04 AM
quote:
How.... Delphi Aegis.... uughhhhhh:
So, do the marks ever expire or anything? Can they eventually be 'sniped' from you if you advance the storyline too much? Cos that'd suck.

They never expire. Others will help you out on a hunt, but will never take it from you. It's not a bad idea to wait till you have a guest character to take down some of the harder hunts actually, as they normally make it easier.

Arttemis
Not Squire... but a guitar!
posted 11-11-2006 06:22:16 PM
Is anyone else having trouble scrounging up money to keep their party equipped? I'm only outfitting three members, yet I still can't seem to make ends meet when I run into a new set of equipment for sale.
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 11-11-2006 09:35:30 PM
Bagoly's in the sandsea outside the tomb can drop bent staves which vendor for ~1100g, and are easy to chain, just have to evade a couple cockatrice clone things in the area where you killed the Wyvern Lord mark...

Usually the bestiary has good indications of where a lot of scratch is to be made, the Bagoly's are better then chaining skeletons in the mines so far.

Gadani
U
posted 11-12-2006 03:03:08 PM
How do I get to the Henne Mines?
Arttemis
Not Squire... but a guitar!
posted 11-12-2006 03:06:29 PM
quote:
Gadani had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
How do I get to the Henne Mines?

You need a chocobo. Look for chocobo tracks outside the woods, near where you entered them.

Gadani
U
posted 11-12-2006 03:10:30 PM
quote:
Arttemis had this to say about dark elf butts:
You need a chocobo. Look for chocobo tracks outside the woods, near where you entered them.

Yeah, I just found it.

I was trying to get there earlier (before I did the Viera city) and the Imperials were just turning me away.

Oreowned
My friends call me 'Wiggles'
posted 11-12-2006 09:11:34 PM
quote:
Gadani had this to say about dark elf butts:
How do I get to the Henne Mines?

Zomg Gadani and I are at like the exact same place.

I don't know, it just amuses me.

EDIT: I'm a noob. Somebody tell me how to get to the Flowering Cactuar mark cause I've run all over the westersand and it's probably really obvious and I'm just dumb/blind.

Oreowned fucked around with this message on 11-12-2006 at 09:46 PM.

Alaan
posted 11-12-2006 11:35:49 PM
quote:
Oreowned wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Zomg Gadani and I are at like the exact same place.

I don't know, it just amuses me.

EDIT: I'm a noob. Somebody tell me how to get to the Flowering Cactuar mark cause I've run all over the westersand and it's probably really obvious and I'm just dumb/blind.


Sup Eastersand.

Arttemis
Not Squire... but a guitar!
posted 11-13-2006 12:35:52 AM
What cures Disease? I've got one of my core party members down to 1/1 HP, and it's kind of a pain.
Gadani
U
posted 11-13-2006 01:22:58 AM
quote:
Arttemis had this to say about Duck Tales:
What cures Disease? I've got one of my core party members down to 1/1 HP, and it's kind of a pain.

Improved Remedy.

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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 11-13-2006 01:29:38 AM
I finally get back home with my nice shiny copy of FFXII... pull FFX out of the PS2 and shove it in....

"Fuck off until you plug in a DualShock2 Controller"

Connect my PS2 controller instead of the turbo PS1 controller I have (that works just fine for every other PS2 game I have right now) and find out that the DPad doesn't work. I can't change options to start the game and I don't want to start the game without converting to 16:9 and enabling subtitles.

Fuck you, Sony. Quit making cheapass controllers!

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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Naimah
In a Fire
posted 11-13-2006 01:37:39 AM
Dual Shocks are incredibly well made. What are you talking about?
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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 11-13-2006 01:53:55 AM
This will be the second one I buy for the PS2, I bought 3 different DualShock1 controllers for my first 2 PSX units and I've got a friend that's about to go buy his 4th DualShock2.

This one I'll give them a break on as my roommate 'tripped' over it (I say he had to have stepped on it to have killed the DPad) but the others just plain and simply wore out. The guy I know in Dallas that's about to buy his 4th says that for him the Analog sticks are what go bad first.

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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 11-13-2006 02:17:42 AM
Some people know how to take proper care of their equipment. Others simply do not.

I've never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, etc needed to replace a Sony-made controller. Hell, I still use my DualShock1 as my second player controller.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
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