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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael, alone in the world and surrounded by danger on every turn, still managed to type this:
and Peter's going to take it in the ass in the fallout.

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Which is kind of his modus operandi.

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Gunslinger Moogle wrote this stupid crap:
Which is kind of his modus operandi.

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Which he jokes about in New Avengers.

I think I read a fan-fic that went like that, actually.

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Delidgamond had this to say about John Romero:
Wiki is missing Deadpool

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Wiki has Deadpool, it's at the very bottom of the page where it says this:

Imitations

Several imitations of Mjolnir have existed. The best-known are the two created by Odin himself: Stormbreaker for Beta Ray Bill, and the mace Thunderstrike for Eric Masterson. Loki has been responsible for multiple imitations. Deadpool briefly wielded an imposter Mjolnir gifted to him by Loki. During Ragnarok, multiple "knock-off" Mjolnirs were created by Surtur with Loki's aid.

The art varies from Excellent to utter crap. I find my self wondering what the hell has happened to Marvel.

Please continue to post the issues as they become availible so I can enjoy them.

THANKS

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Almond wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Reading these I get the feeling the whole thing is improbable at best to occur in the fashion as it’s laid out. I feel that they are trying to imply that Tony actually has manipulated events o bring this whole thing about. Peter seems to be questioning his role. I'm not sure why or how he and Stark got together as it’s been a very long time since I read a comic.

The art varies from Excellent to utter crap. I find my self wondering what the hell has happened to Marvel.

Please continue to post the issues as they become availible so I can enjoy them.

THANKS

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Actually, following the House of M/M-Day/Decimation/189 stuff, I can very easily see how this could have happened. The Marvel Universe we read a decade ago is very changed, very different. Less kid gloves. Civil War is solid stuff. Read some of the back issues to find out about how Pete started working for Tony. It's all very logical. Good stuff.

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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael was all like:
Actually, following the House of M/M-Day/Decimation/189 stuff, I can very easily see how this could have happened. The Marvel Universe we read a decade ago is very changed, very different. Less kid gloves. Civil War is solid stuff. Read some of the back issues to find out about how Pete started working for Tony. It's all very logical. Good stuff.

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I missed all that. Just seems to me that they are saying that we should have held the guys on flight 98 responsible for 9/11.

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Almond had this to say about Knight Rider:
I missed all that. Just seems to me that they are saying that we should have held the guys on flight 98 responsible for 9/11.

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Get the fuck out and don't come back.

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Sean painfully thought these words up:
Get the fuck out and don't come back.

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Dear Master Sean.

No.

Sincerely Almond

Almond fucked around with this message on 08-02-2006 at 11:38 PM.

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Elvish Crack Piper had time to sputter this out before being killed by someone else's ambush:
1602 is where the old school action is at.

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"Doom...do you think light has a speed?"
"WHAT?! What nonsense is this?! Let us talk of poisons and explosives and machines of war!"
"If the speed of light through a vacuum was constant...it would explain...so much..."
"There is no SPEED. There is no LIGHT. There is only VON DOOM."

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Almond wrote this stupid crap:
I missed all that. Just seems to me that they are saying that we should have held the guys on flight 98 responsible for 9/11.

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...What? That doesn't even make sense.

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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about John Romero:
...What? That doesn't even make sense.

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When the new warriors attacked a known criminal in an attempt to bring him to justice (and maybe some ratings) they got blamed for the whole affair. We see in Wolverines storyline that no one is really paying any attention to the real person responsible for the event Nitro.

In defense of the New Warriors they had no way to know that he had become "juiced" he had never been capable of such a large explosion previously. Speedball could safely assume that he could absorb Nitro's blast and thereby limit his threat to the local area.

I gave that as a comparison of people trying to do the right thing and then getting improperly blamed for the results. Again I can’t accept the premise of people placing blame on the wrong people and not on the person actually known to be responsible.

Gunslinger Moogle fucked around with this message on 08-03-2006 at 02:10 PM.

1. Nitro has always been capable of catastrophic-level blasts. If you look at some of the old Handbooks, it's always indicated that the bigger the part of Nitro that he lets explode, the bigger the boom. He's always blown fists and so forth. Keep in mind that Nitro is also relatively responsible for the death of the original Captain Mar-Vell, which is no small feat. A lot of supervillains pack a punch that, realistically, could do a lot more damage than a second string thug like Nitro.

2. For years, the setting has lived in fear of all-powerful bad guys coming along and destroying or dominating everything. The so-called "Masters of Evil" were for decades of Marvel Universe threats, but not serious threats. The difference between now and then is that people are taking a more serious look at what some of these guys could really get away with. The estimate given to Stark in one of the lead-up books as to the monetary damages to the United States (47 Billion dollars) is grossly conservative when you realize someone like, say, Storm or Hydro-Man could have caused devastation on a Hurricane Katrina level given the impetus.

Mutants have borne the brunt of this for a long time, and for decades people in the Marvel Universe have been skirting a very dangerous line. Mutant Registration, persecution of mutants, etc is all borne of the sort of fear that has, finally, come to this sort of registration act. This was a powder keg that has been jabbed at with red-hot pokers for years. It just finally blew.

And keep in mind that the populace-at-large is unaware how ONE SINGLE MUTANT (the Scarlet Witch) selectively rewrote reality, not once, but TWICE (the kickoff to House of M and the resulting M-Day when things were changed back almost to how they were). If you think humanity wouldn't have passed this over that, then you're just plain silly.

3. The difference between the people on Flight 98 (is it 98? I thought it was 93) and the New Warriors was that the people on the hijacked planes on 9/11 were civilians desperate to handle something where proper authorities had no clue as to what was going on. The New Warriors had located a pack of heinously dangerous super-criminals, failed to notify any sort of authority (the police, SHIELD, any super-team out there), and then engaged them in a suburban residential area when they were not in fact in the process of committing any crime.

The simple fact is that someone was going to take the fall on this. Even if no one was more to blame than someone else, there's always someone that has to take the blame in situations like this. The problem is...the New Warriors WERE to blame. They handled things badly (not to mention grossly irresponsibly), underestimated their foes due to overconfidence, weren't taking it seriously (keep in mind, in the middle of the melee, they had one of the Warriors repeat a smartass quip to catch it on video properly), and that's what eventually led to this all going to hell. This wasn't "Bad things are happening, and civilians attempt to overcome the ongoing bad event" scenario. The criminals were taking out the trash at this suburban safe house and the Warriors started a fight with no apparent intent to pull things away from a residential area.

There is a plot thread where someone is making mutant steroids which Nitro was taking to up his power considerably, perhaps they will delve more into that and this will make more sense.

Almond fucked around with this message on 08-03-2006 at 03:39 PM.

I just drew this in MSPaint in 30 minutes: I am awesome. Marvel should hire me now and fire the weirdo drawing Wolverine.

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Fazum'Zen Fastfist had this to say about Duck Tales:
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I just drew this in MSPaint in 30 minutes: I am awesome. Marvel should hire me now and fire the weirdo drawing Wolverine.

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quotin dis

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This one time, at Almond camp:
I don't see it your way, sorry it was a very well thought out counter point but it doesn’t change my mind. I didn’t read the House of M. It’s been likely a decade or more since last I read a Marvel or DC comic. Maybe that’s why I just don't get this new Plot.

There is a plot thread where someone is making mutant steroids which Nitro was taking to up his power considerably, perhaps they will delve more into that and this will make more sense.

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Hahahaha what, you dumbass.

How can even begin to draw a comparison between COSTUMED VIGILANTES attacking SUPERVILLAINS and civilians acting in self defense? The vigilantes caused a tragedy, the civilians averted one. What the fuck, moron?

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Fazum'Zen Fastfist wrote this then went back to looking for porn:

I just drew this in MSPaint in 30 minutes: I am awesome. Marvel should hire me now and fire the weirdo drawing Wolverine.

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I agree. Jesus that guy sucks.

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Almond had this to say about Optimus Prime:
[QB]I don't see it your way, sorry it was a very well thought out counter point but it doesn’t change my mind. I didn’t read the House of M. It’s been likely a decade or more since last I read a Marvel or DC comic. Maybe that’s why I just don't get this new Plot.

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Flight 98 - Hostages
New Warriors - Aggressors

Flight 98 - Didn't kill people
New Warriors - Got lots of people killed

Flight 98 - Heroic Loss
New Warriors - Selfish Catastrophe

Need More?

On the house of M
Basically, Scarlet witch rewrite reality to where particular heroes are inneffective and mutants end up winning some sort of war. Cap was never frozen, Spidey is an actor, the Avengers never assembled, Xavier died saving genosha, Doc Strange never learned magic, Hank Pym is stuck as a middle level scientist under a racy beast. Lots of people get their wish to come true. Cap didn't lose his love, Spidey didn't lose his uncle, Wolverine gets access to all his memory (which is how he realizes its a fake world and goes off to correct it)

She, under quicksilvers revealed prodding, tried to make a better world.

In the end, its reversed, and the vast majority of mutants lose their powers, anyone not shielded during the end fight lose all recollection.

Now we have 198 mutants left, locked in with sentinels as guards "for the mutants own protection"

There is alot more than that, and if I made any glaring errors I'm sure Deth or someone will oblige and correct me.

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Elvish Crack Piper wrote this stupid crap:

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So it was Marvels version of Crises of Infinite Earths pretty much?

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Elvish Crack Piper had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
There is alot more than that, and if I made any glaring errors I'm sure Deth or someone will oblige and correct me.

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Nope. You got it right on all essential counts.

Keep in mind the New Warriors were hunting bad guys as part of a reality TV show. They were playing superhero to earn a quick buck.

Also keep in mind that the registration act doesn't necessarily mean you have to pull a Peter Parker. You just have to register with the government so they know and can hold you accountable for your actions. They'll even pay you to operate as an on-call superhero.

I don't necessarily AGREE with it (for most of the reasons Cap and Spidey don't), but I can at least understand the logic behind it. That's what makes the rift between the heroes so poignant.

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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael.
Also keep in mind that the registration act doesn't necessarily mean you have to pull a Peter Parker. You just have to register with the government so they know and can hold you accountable for your actions. They'll even pay you to operate as an on-call superhero.

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At least, that's how it seems it would play out to me, regardless of what Stark told Cage in New Avengers 22. The current S.H.I.E.L.D. direction is a super bitch and I do not think she would hesitate to call anyone into any situation.

Oh, and you're fucking stupid if you think 9/11 has anything to do with Civil War in any way.

Spider-Man was about to beat the shit out of Cap. As much as I love Cap, I think it's the sad truth. Go.

I do like how he left the shield where Cap could get it. Id like to see Peter comeout on top for once he always seems to be punished for being a honest well meaning person.

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Almond.
I'd like to see Peter comeout on top for once he always seems to be punished for being a honest well meaning person.

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A sleep deprived Almond stammered:
I agree. Jesus that guy sucks.

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He's an amazing artist with alot of potential, but I don't personally like his style. He also seems to constantly try and do both realistic and cartoony art on the same page; often in the same picture.

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Vallo.
try and do both realistic

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