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Topic: So umm X-men anyone?
Sean
posted 05-27-2006 08:56:48 PM
Alan Cumming didn't renew his contract, because of the heavy makeup requirement and director change.
A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

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Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 05-27-2006 09:39:25 PM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Sean:
Alan Cumming didn't renew his contract, because of the heavy makeup requirement and director change.

Which sucks. Not that I blame him...

Faelynn LeAndris fucked around with this message on 05-27-2006 at 09:39 PM.


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Steven Steve
posted 05-27-2006 11:25:28 PM
quote:
Yuri stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
You seem to be in the very small minority.

Yes, the very small 48%.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/x_men_3_the_last_stand/

Also, I would think that the very fact that Juggernaut said "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!" would clue you in to how ridiculous this movie really is.

Fazum'Zen Fastfist fucked around with this message on 05-27-2006 at 11:29 PM.

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Nae
Fun with Chocolate
posted 05-27-2006 11:36:05 PM
I didn't hate it.
Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 05-28-2006 03:39:29 AM
Unknown if Juggernaut died or not. He smacked into the wall but he may have gotten out of the building before Jean went apeshit


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Inferno-Spirit
Sports Advocate
posted 05-28-2006 03:54:53 AM
It's not like it really matters who died or not.

What matters is who will direct the next movie and whether they convince get some of the unhappy cast to return.

In the Marvel universe, anyone can come back to life as many times as the writers require.

"He lets the last Hungarian go, and he goes running. He waits until his wife and kids are in the ground and he goes after the rest of the mob. He kills their kids, he kills their wives, he kills their parents and their parents' friends. He burns down the houses they grew up in and the stores they work in, he kills people that owe them money. And like that he was gone. Underground. No one has ever seen him again. He becomes a myth, a spook story that criminals tell their kids at night. 'If you rat on your pop, Keyser Soze will get you.' And nobody really ever believes." - Roger 'Verbal' Kint, The Usual Suspects
Arrenn Lightblade
Yes. Yes he is.
posted 05-28-2006 03:56:41 AM
A fun action flick, but if they do make a 4th I will not be seeing it.
Inferno-Spirit
Sports Advocate
posted 05-28-2006 03:57:44 AM
quote:
Arrenn Lightblade thought about the meaning of life:
A fun action flick, but if they do make a 4th I will not be seeing it.

Oh yes you will.

"He lets the last Hungarian go, and he goes running. He waits until his wife and kids are in the ground and he goes after the rest of the mob. He kills their kids, he kills their wives, he kills their parents and their parents' friends. He burns down the houses they grew up in and the stores they work in, he kills people that owe them money. And like that he was gone. Underground. No one has ever seen him again. He becomes a myth, a spook story that criminals tell their kids at night. 'If you rat on your pop, Keyser Soze will get you.' And nobody really ever believes." - Roger 'Verbal' Kint, The Usual Suspects
Arrenn Lightblade
Yes. Yes he is.
posted 05-28-2006 04:05:10 AM
quote:
Inferno-Spirit enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
Oh yes you will.

If I don't have to pay for it, maybe. Though I did feel the fight scenes in this one were kind of lame, so even then it might be a waste of my time.

Freschel Spindrift
Caucasian
posted 05-28-2006 04:12:40 AM
For an action/adventure movie it's very good, but my inner geek hated it. Everything I knew about the X-Men is wrong in this movie. There are too many things are wrong with this movie. They ignored Juggernaut's relationship with Professor Xavior. They also forgot the fact the the Juggernaut is not a mutant. At least it wasn't bad as "Batman and Robin".

I do would like to se a retro X-Men movie. Using the founding members fighting the Brotherhood of Evil. I don't think it would happen.

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Bakura: That's my Zorc.
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Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 05-28-2006 11:02:35 AM
quote:
Freschel Spindrift's fortune cookie read:
At least it wasn't bad as "Batman and Robin".

You could go to the theater, pay 10 dollars for your ticket, purchase a large popcorn and large pop, hand the guy your ticket, get directed to your theater, enter the theater and be promptly kicked in the nuts, pass out and wake up after the movie... and it would STILL be better than Batman and Robin

Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 05-28-2006 11:08:14 AM
quote:
Vorago said this about your mom:
You could go to the theater, pay 10 dollars for your ticket, purchase a large popcorn and large pop, hand the guy your ticket, get directed to your theater, enter the theater and be promptly kicked in the nuts, pass out and wake up after the movie... and it would STILL be better than Batman and Robin

Remember when Kait thought Batman and Robin was the best Batman movie because George Clooney was the "epitome of perfection" as Batman.

Good times.

Steven Steve
posted 05-28-2006 11:45:57 AM
quote:
Freschel Spindrift Model 2000 was programmed to say:
For an action/adventure movie it's very good, but my inner geek hated it. Everything I knew about the X-Men is wrong in this movie. There are too many things are wrong with this movie. They ignored Juggernaut's relationship with Professor Xavior. They also forgot the fact the the Juggernaut is not a mutant. At least it wasn't bad as "Batman and Robin".

I do would like to se a retro X-Men movie. Using the founding members fighting the Brotherhood of Evil. I don't think it would happen.


It's because they're using all of the Ultimate storylines now. That's why Venom will be a little emo pussy in Spider-Man 3 also.

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Azymyth
Not gay; just weird
posted 05-30-2006 01:14:49 AM
The profanity at the end, especially the exchanges between Juggernaut and Shadowcat were very forced and out of place. As was the mismashing of powers. "Dur... I want a cool final fight sequence, so I'll just make the canon characters different."

I do wonder how the next movie will turn out though. The so-called cure isn't permanant but the guy that created it is still alive. But a good portion of the interesting mutants have been killed on both sides, so...

I suffer from CRS: Can't Remember Shit.

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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 05-30-2006 10:19:10 AM
quote:
Fazum'Zen Fastfist had this to say about Punky Brewster:
It's because they're using all of the Ultimate storylines now. That's why Venom will be a little emo pussy in Spider-Man 3 also.

Actually, the storyline in the series is some bastard hybrid of Ultimates and 616. Trust me, the Ultimates storyline doesn't suck the ass that the movies do.

Though Juggernaut did start as a mutant in Ultimates, he has since collected the Cyttorak gem.

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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 05-30-2006 10:19:43 AM
He also killed Gambit, which made me immensely happy.
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Sean
posted 05-30-2006 11:02:03 AM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
He also killed Gambit, which made me immensely happy.

The only reason Gambit didn't appear in X3 is because some loser from LOST couldn't make the production schedule, due to his LOST commitment.

I still say that everyone should die/retire after X3, leaving the inevitable sequel to the younger generation of mutants. Give me Beast leading instead of Storm any day.

Then give me my dream team of Iceman, Colossus and Nightcrawler. BUT OH WAIT, ONE'S PISSED OFF AT THE SHITTY DIRECTOR AND ANOTHER HAS HAD FOUR LINES IN THREE MOVIES.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 05-30-2006 03:51:42 PM
I want the Wolverine from the past two movies. The one who I could believe had periodic berserker rages. And yeah...what's with Colossus having a grand total of two lines in X3? Not that I minded terribly; Colossus somehow managed to look worse in X3 than he did in the scene he metalled up in in X2.

I still want to know what the deal is with the Mighty-Morphin-Bondage-Mutants costumes. Black leather and yellow for Wolverine, Black leather with White for Storm, Black leather with light blue for Iceman, Black leather with...PINK!? for Kitty Pryde... Ugh. Give me a break.

I want a CGI Beast, I want Colossus better sorted out, I want Kitty Pryde either made less of a whiny teenaged girl or out, I want Nightcrawler back, I want Iceman back. I could give a flying flip about Storm, I'm sick of Jean (Famke Jansen, while hot, seemed to be doing heavy doses of valium in the last two movies, now that I think of it), and while I was just starting to like Cyclops, after his whiny "Not everyone heals as fast as you, Logan!" scene in X3, I want him gone. I'm SICK TO FUCKING DEATH of The Brotherhood. Magneto is a badass, but I'd like to see him be a more subtle force. Mystique, hotty, is depowered for now and no longer an issue. Pyro...dunno. Actually like him more than I ever did in the comic.

I want to see The Blob. And I want to see more mutants with freakish appearances. Leech was not some bald kid. I want to see Juggernaut (assuming he survived) squaring off toe-to-toe with the Colossus.

I want Angel to be Archangel. Except I want it to happen at the start of a movie in a modified "Mutant Massacre" scenario laid out by Sinister, who is working for Apocalypse, to start weeding out the weak. Apocalypse then takes Angel (and whoever else) and turns them into Horsemen and starts screwing with them. Except I don't want it to be absolutely clear whether or not Apocalypse is real or the creation of Sinister's deluded mind (sort of like Ultimates, but with 616 evil bastard Sinister).

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Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 05-30-2006 06:19:01 PM
Just got back from seeing it...

Wtf was with colossus spreading his metal like a thick paste over someone else to protect them?

Anyone else notice Mystique's backup was a LOT less detailed than previous movies and her CG transformations even more so?

All in all, an ok action movie, so many little errors (Day changing to night instantly, wolverine's shirt repaired after being stabbed the second the scene changes etc.) but not AS bad as I feared. Still not up to par with what it could have been sadly

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 05-30-2006 06:59:52 PM
quote:
Vorago's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
Just got back from seeing it...

Wtf was with colossus spreading his metal like a thick paste over someone else to protect them?

Anyone else notice Mystique's backup was a LOT less detailed than previous movies and her CG transformations even more so?

All in all, an ok action movie, so many little errors (Day changing to night instantly, wolverine's shirt repaired after being stabbed the second the scene changes etc.) but not AS bad as I feared. Still not up to par with what it could have been sadly



Colossus was touching Rogue. She was duping his power when he touched her. You notice he was touching skin? Yeah. Though I admit it did stop me for a second at the time before I realized who it was he was touching.

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Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 05-30-2006 10:01:56 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about Robocop:
Colossus was touching Rogue. She was duping his power when he touched her. You notice he was touching skin? Yeah. Though I admit it did stop me for a second at the time before I realized who it was he was touching.

Yeah, figured that out later haha

Vorago fucked around with this message on 05-30-2006 at 10:18 PM.

Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 05-30-2006 10:30:11 PM
Oh yeah, know what I want, good quality vidcap of Jean right before she turns Xavier to dust, when she is in full dark pheonix look. Really liked the make-up they used there
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 05-30-2006 10:44:47 PM
Just a query. Wasn't Jean supposed to be taken over by an alien entity thing to become the dark phoenix? I only have to go off the mid-90s cartoon, but they never mentioned anything about her being more powerful then the professor or some such crap.
Lechium
With no one to ever know
posted 05-30-2006 10:47:34 PM
Is it me, or was the scene with the bridge completely unnecessary?
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Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 05-30-2006 10:48:04 PM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Lechium:
Is it me, or was the scene with the bridge completely unnecessary?

Computer geeks need to eat too.

Sean
posted 05-30-2006 11:09:04 PM
At this point spoilers are stupid.

Delphi: Juggernaut and Phoenix's origins are both far too involved to condense into a 90 minute movie that already got stuffed with so much plot that it rolled over and became no plot. They're the least offensive drastic changes made in X-3, I don't know anyone who cares too much about them with all the other bullshit that went wrong.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Steven Steve
posted 05-30-2006 11:16:54 PM
I wish if they didn't have the ability to condense a story that they would just create something totally original, you know, as a comic book writer might, rather than trampling all over the existing material in the hopes that fans would feel appreciated. (Although this psychology never works and ends with hardcore fans pissed off and a bunch of teenagers walking out of the theater saying "Awesome, guys!!!!!!")
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Sean
posted 05-30-2006 11:20:57 PM
Yeah, I wish they would too.
A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

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Not A Winner
posted 05-30-2006 11:45:05 PM
quote:
Lechium got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Is it me, or was the scene with the bridge completely unnecessary?

I thought it was pretty cool.

The movie needed more shit like that to make up for the plot haha.

My thoughts on the movie basically ended up "damnit phoenix just dissolve someone with psychic powerz again that was fuckin' rad!"

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Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 05-31-2006 08:09:54 AM
quote:
Delphi Aegis painfully thought these words up:
Just a query. Wasn't Jean supposed to be taken over by an alien entity thing to become the dark phoenix? I only have to go off the mid-90s cartoon, but they never mentioned anything about her being more powerful then the professor or some such crap.

Phoenix eats stars.

Prof X does not.

(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
`Doc
Cold in an Alley
posted 05-31-2006 08:46:29 AM
quote:
Ninety-nine bottles of Elvish Crack Piper on the wall, ninety-nine bottles of Elvish Crack Piper...
Phoenix eats stars.

Prof X does not.


HER meaning Jean Gray (sp?), the only X-man without her own nickname.
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Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 05-31-2006 08:58:07 AM
So what happened after the credits were done rolling? That link on the first page doesn't work.
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Beer.

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 05-31-2006 09:11:25 AM
quote:
Karnaj stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
So what happened after the credits were done rolling? That link on the first page doesn't work.

You see the braindead guy from the video in the beginning. A Nurse walks in. The guy asks "Moira?" with Patrick Stewarts voice. The Nurse is shocked and replies "Xavier?!".

The End.

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Almond
Intellectual Socialist
posted 05-31-2006 09:18:48 AM
quote:
How.... Karnaj.... uughhhhhh:
So what happened after the credits were done rolling? That link on the first page doesn't work.


Remember when Professor Charles Xavier was giving the lecture to the students about their poweres and abilities and he had them watch the guy in the hospital bed? He talked about ability transferring if they had the power to do that and what benefits it could have and the ethics of it, etc etc?

in the very end after the credits...it shows a female Dr enter a hospital room, she checks in on the patient then we hear Prof Xavier's voice say,"Moira" and she replies "Charles?" so, this is Dr. Moira MacTaggart and Prof Xavier has transferred is mental being into this man. Leaves it open to sequal of course...especially with the fact that Magneto could start moving the chess piece even if it was slight..showing only temporary cure (at least in some cases).

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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 05-31-2006 10:29:54 AM
Yeah I have to say I'd rather not see bad retellings of stuff from the comics.

YES, in the original comics, Cain Marko/Juggernaut is powered by magic. And he was a significant threat to the X-Men in and of himself (up until Colossus they didn't have any "tanks" in the party; closest thing they had was pre-fuzzy Beast). But you can't easily introduce magic into the series they have going, so they opted for a mutant origin. Juggernaut started as a mutant in the Ultimates storyline for much the same reason, though he has since grabbed the gem of Cyttorak.

YES, in the original comics, Jean was an avatar/host for the Phoenix Force, an entity of destruction and rebirth. In the Ultimates storyline, they're playing things coy. Xavier insists Jean is schizophrenic, and the Phoenix is just the voice she hears now and then. Thor seemed to be insinuating otherwise, but since Ultimate Thor may or may not actually be a god, he may or may not know what the hell he's talking about. Seems like Ultimate Jean Grey is using the Phoenix power pretty openly these days.

Jean's always been a more powerful psychokinetic than telepath. Prof X is the most powerful telepath in the world (save for Nate Grey "X-Man" from AOA when he arrived in the 616 universe), but Jean's by far the most powerful psychokinetic. Which begs the question why Prof X didn't just turn her mind off in the movie, but of course you can't do that. PLOT POINT. Ugh.

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Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 05-31-2006 10:36:30 AM
Cool. And a sweet deal for Patrick Stewart, because he just has to do ADR for the next movie. They can probably do it in his house or something.
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Beer.

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 06-01-2006 03:00:23 AM
quote:
From the book of Karnaj, chapter 3, verse 16:
Cool. And a sweet deal for Patrick Stewart, because he just has to do ADR for the next movie. They can probably do it in his house or something.

I'm pretty sure he or Ian wouldn't even come back for cameos. They were pissed enough to buy out of their contracts.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Monica
I've got an owie on my head :(
posted 06-01-2006 05:21:35 PM
what the FUCK!

I don't think they should have left it open for a sequel if they were going to kill off like half the main characters.

Fuck that shit.

Monica
I've got an owie on my head :(
posted 06-01-2006 05:31:44 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about (_|_):
while I was just starting to like Cyclops, after his whiny "Not everyone heals as fast as you, Logan!" scene in X3, I want him gone.

Sad thing is, since his death wasn't technically CONFIRMED (like how we saw Xavier get atomized, kinda like how they don't really confirm Juggernaut's "death") they will probably find an excuse to bring him back. I mean yeah, she had all that psychobitch Phoenix shit going on, but ultimately it's still Jean, and Jean 's Scott, right? Not likely, but at this point they've pretty much taken everything else and run with it... why not this?

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Blackened
posted 06-01-2006 05:37:55 PM
quote:
Monica.
Sad thing is, since his death wasn't technically CONFIRMED (like how we saw Xavier get atomized, kinda like how they don't really confirm Juggernaut's "death") they will probably find an excuse to bring him back. I mean yeah, she had all that psychobitch Phoenix shit going on, but ultimately it's still Jean, and Jean 's Scott, right? Not likely, but at this point they've pretty much taken everything else and run with it... why not this?
I think it was confirmed by the script that Scott bites it.

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