I can't multi-task, unless I'm at work. At work it just sort of develops on its own. But when people are trying to give me stuff to do anywhere else, I can't focus and nothing gets done.
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ACES! Another post by Aury:
I can't quit smoking. >.<
I keep 'forgeting" that that was saspeod to be my last pack
"I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
-- George Herbert Walker Bush
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There was much rejoicing when Leftover Mog said this:
I keep 'forgeting" that that was saspeod to be my last pack
Heh. I tried that for awhile, now it's just like second nature. I smoke less than a pack a day, but still. I wanna quit, I simply lack sufficient willpower.
thank god for 3.50 packs
"I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
-- George Herbert Walker Bush
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Aury eats soap. I'm serious. Irish Spring. No lie.
Heh. I tried that for awhile, now it's just like second nature. I smoke less than a pack a day, but still. I wanna quit, I simply lack sufficient willpower.
*deep breath*
You are a WORM, a LOWLY creature who cannot even fathom its miniscule and unimportant part in life. You don't DESERVE to quit! You deserve NOTHING, you smoke-wreathed pitiful imitation of a man! You will WRITHE in your bondage like the stricken cur you are, until you gain the base and minimum heart to break free, or until you learn to LOVE it! Do you DARE stand up to become the human creature you so inexpertly masquerade as being? You can't STAND the discomfort, the agony of being without your precious smoke! You lapse in your decadent comfort, unable to bear the PAIN of leaving! Pitiful thing, locked in your shell - I would laugh at you, if your feeble struggles gave any amusement at all.
*deep breath*
Who wants cookies? 
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Nicole had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
*deep breath*You are a WORM, a LOWLY creature who cannot even fathom its miniscule and unimportant part in life. You don't DESERVE to quit! You deserve NOTHING, you smoke-wreathed pitiful imitation of a man! You will WRITHE in your bondage like the stricken cur you are, until you gain the base and minimum heart to break free, or until you learn to LOVE it! Do you DARE stand up to become the human creature you so inexpertly masquerade as being? You can't STAND the discomfort, the agony of being without your precious smoke! You lapse in your decadent comfort, unable to bear the PAIN of leaving! Pitiful thing, locked in your shell - I would laugh at you, if your feeble struggles gave any amusement at all.
*deep breath*
Who wants cookies?
Well! That was certainly unwarranted. Didn't I say I had no willpower? All that was kind of a given.
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Aury spewed forth this undeniable truth:
Well! That was certainly unwarranted. Didn't I say I had no willpower? All that was kind of a given.
Your sig is a veritable monstrosity.
My sweetie's the only thing this place has going for it, and he's relatively portable.
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Zephyer Kyuukaze got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
I can't find a descent job or get out of this shithole I'm living in.
I heard the mines aren't really good this time of year.
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Coming to you live from Aury's small intestine.
Well! That was certainly unwarranted. Didn't I say I had no willpower? All that was kind of a given.
Yeah, but I was feeling whimsical.
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Taeldianing:
Experience has taught me that going straight for the succubus is a Bad Thing since it gives the warlock room to drop 4 DoTs and nuke the hell out of you while you do it.It takes enough time to kill one unless you're using an Ashkandi or something that it's not worth it.
How much HP do you think a level 60 succubus has? 1709 HP and 29% melee mitigation (45% with the book). An MS warrior with a halfway decent epic (Spinal reaper? Zin'rokh?) can make pretty short work of a succubus. And we're just talking an MC geared warrior and a BWL geared warlock.
Warlocks don't have 4 stacking DoT's (demo/destro locks don't at any rate, affliction locks have siphon life which does negligible damage). If a warlock is DoT'ing a warrior in 1 on 1 pvp and he doesn't have CoEx, he's already lost.
Stacking Corruption, immo, and CoA takes almost 4 full seconds of casting time when you figure in global cooldowns (plenty of time to kill a succubus if you get a lucky crit), and the three together will deal ~130 damage per second plus +dmg gear. Assuming a generous amount, you can pretty much double that (but remember that CoA is also highly top-loaded). At any rate, the average warrior has, what, 6000 HP? That's 24 seconds going full bore, assuming you refresh corruption and immo, which you won't because somewhere around tick 6 your succubus is dead, if you had soul link you don't anymore, the warrior is jogging toward you, you'll death coil, nuke and shadowburn, none of which will kill him, then you're relegated to running like a bitch or standing your ground and hoping he bumped the pummel key while killing Huknagma. Maradon! fucked around with this message on 04-07-2006 at 06:45 AM.
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My short term memory, too, is slightly lacking.
I don't have all of my hearing, one ear is more deaf than the other.
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Verily, Nicole doth proclaim:
Yeah, but I was feeling whimsical.
Gotcha.
On a more serious note, I can't quit breathing. It's a horribly addictive practice, and I can't manage to stop doing it for more than a minute at a time. Withdrawal is just too painful, and I worry that I might not survive it long enough to successfully break the habit.
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'baeling:
Maradon can't let his caster woes go!
Woes schmoes, in almost every other situation I'm a PVP powerhouse. Felhunter eats mages alive, I lay waste to all but the best rogues even when they get the drop on me, and I can even kill paladins handily unless they're played well and they almost never are.
In fact, there's only 3 classes that I can't chew up and spit out on a regular basis, but fortunately for me I rarely have to face shamans and priests are always busy in group pvp.
Even fairly lazy warriors can present considerable challenge to me.
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Maradon! didn't get much USO. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat. He had only two ways home: death, or victory.
Woes schmoes, in almost every other situation I'm a PVP powerhouse. Felhunter eats mages alive, I lay waste to all but the best rogues even when they get the drop on me, and I can even kill paladins handily unless they're played well and they almost never are.In fact, there's only 3 classes that I can't chew up and spit out on a regular basis, but fortunately for me I rarely have to face shamans and priests are always busy in group pvp.
Even fairly lazy warriors can present considerable challenge to me.
So what the fuck is the problem?
It's not something people hear about.
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Señor Gains's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
I heard the mines aren't really good this time of year.
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Maradon! was all like:
How much HP do you think a level 60 succubus has? 1709 HP and 29% melee mitigation (45% with the book). An MS warrior with a halfway decent epic (Spinal reaper? Zin'rokh?) can make pretty short work of a succubus. And we're just talking an MC geared warrior and a BWL geared warlock.Warlocks don't have 4 stacking DoT's (demo/destro locks don't at any rate, affliction locks have siphon life which does negligible damage). If a warlock is DoT'ing a warrior in 1 on 1 pvp and he doesn't have CoEx, he's already lost.
Stacking Corruption, immo, and CoA takes almost 4 full seconds of casting time when you figure in global cooldowns (plenty of time to kill a succubus if you get a lucky crit), and the three together will deal ~130 damage per second plus +dmg gear. Assuming a generous amount, you can pretty much double that (but remember that CoA is also highly top-loaded). At any rate, the average warrior has, what, 6000 HP? That's 24 seconds going full bore, assuming you refresh corruption and immo, which you won't because somewhere around tick 6 your succubus is dead, if you had soul link you don't anymore, the warrior is jogging toward you, you'll death coil, nuke and shadowburn, none of which will kill him, then you're relegated to running like a bitch or standing your ground and hoping he bumped the pummel key while killing Huknagma.
Fight starts, warrior charges if you decide to let him, hamstrings
Warlock uses seduction, shadowbolts twice
Warrior intercepts
Warlock seduces, shadowbolts twice, seduces again
At this point hamstring has worn off
Warlock backs off and uses immolation, corruption, CoA, Warlock turns and runs away
Warrior has the option of either chasing the warlock or going after the succubus
If he goes after the warlock, intercept is on cooldown, making it impossible to catch up; succubus is an extra DoT
If he goes after the succubus, the warlock has an opening to A) Renew Immolate if necessary or B) start pelting him with shadowbolts in the 6 or so seconds it takes to kill a succubus
Warrior either dies to the DoTs while chasing the warlock or dies to the shadowbolts while he wasted time on the succubus.
Warrior can survive long enough to get another intercept if he has a lifegiving gem, last stand, or uses a potion
If the warrior survives long enough to intercept again, the warlock can use a well-timed Death Coil to keep him from hamstringing or piercing howling, and the warlock can continue kiting
I realize this takes a lot of effort and timing on the warlock's part, but if you do it right the warrior will be helpless.
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x--SeanO-('-'Q) :
So what the fuck is the problem?
The problem is that warriors still bitch endlessly every time they're killed by a warlock.
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So quoth Maradon!:
The problem is that warriors still bitch endlessly every time they're killed by a warlock.
Because we're completely helpless against a good warlock, even if we're in all epic gear and they're wearing greens and blues.
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Maradon! wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
The problem is that warriors still bitch endlessly every time they're killed by a warlock.
The warriors that would bitch endlessly when killed by a warlock are the exact same warriors that would bitch endlessly had they slaughtered the warlock. 
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x--TaelO-('-'Q) :
Fight starts, warrior charges if you decide to let him, hamstrings
Warlock uses seduction, shadowbolts twice
Two shadowbolts before the intercept? Are we talking about a warrior with down's syndrome or a warlock with instant cast shadowbolts?
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Warrior intercepts
Warlock seduces, shadowbolts twice, seduces again
If the warrior intercepts the succubus, the warlock can't seduce because of intercept stun and because succubus mez is channeled.
And again, you do realize that shadowbolt has a casting time right? It's not instant cast/no cool down as you seem to be assuming every time you say "shadowbolts twice", because doing that without any action in the interim is basically impossible.
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At this point hamstring has worn off
At this point it really doesn't matter if you're hamstrung or not, your succubus is dead and...
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Warlock backs off and uses immolation, corruption, CoA, Warlock turns and runs away
...Wow, you can "back off" to the point that it'll take four full seconds for a warrior to catch up to you? You could have CoEx on him and he'd STILL be pounding on you before you got all your dot's off. This would be the "running like a bitch" option.
So, pretty much your combat scenario here is only viable if the warrior is unbelievably stupid.
Let me guess, though, you play a warrior - OH hey look I was right!
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Taeling:
Because we're completely helpless against a good warlock, even if we're in all epic gear and they're wearing greens and blues.
No, it would appear that you just have absolutely no experience fighting warlocks, or even the remotest grasp of their capabilities.
The intercept is after the first seduce. If the warrior doesn't have intercept up, you can definitely get two shadowbolts off before he can get to you. If you're in a position where you can't get the next seduce/shadowbolt combo off, you can use death coil to buy yourself an opening.
I fight a lot of warlocks. I beat the vast majority of them. It's the ones who kite me (Yes, it's possible) instead of tanking me who give me a problem.
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This one time, at Maradon! camp:
...Wow, you can "back off" to the point that it'll take four full seconds for a warrior to catch up to you?
Only one of those three DoTs (Immolate) has a casting time. I'm saying back off while seduce is running or, if the warrior is beating on your succubus and you can't get him off, just cast it and cast the other two (Instant Cast) while you move.
"I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
-- George Herbert Walker Bush
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Peanut butter ass Shaq Tael booooze lime pole over bench lick:
Only one of those three DoTs (Immolate) has a casting time. I'm saying back off while seduce is running or, if the warrior is beating on your succubus and you can't get him off, just cast it and cast the other two (Instant Cast) while you move.
No, only affliction warlocks have instant corruption and those same affliction warlocks will have 15% less HP, coex, and succubi that are EVEN WEAKER, so you're talking a whooooooole different bag.
Warlocks do not have 93 talent points.
For those of us who don't have the otherwise unreliable powerleveling spec, Corruption has a 2 second casting time and immo has 1.5, with globals and, god forbid, lag bringing the whole suite pretty close to 4 solid seconds of standing there with your thumb up your ass.
See, what you've done here is just lumped all the warlocks you've ever fought into some mythical, indestructible monstrosity with every possible ability and talent. Warlocks are a class that will play COMPLETELY differently depending on their spec and while they have a lot of tricks up their sleeves they're all very, very beatable. Especially by warriors.
PVP warlocks are usually demo. You beat demo by killing the pet first. It's really not hard.
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Tael had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Because we're completely helpless against a good warlock, even if we're in all epic gear and they're wearing greens and blues.
Oh shit you mean you're completely helpless against one of nine classes? And only if they're good at what they do?
I wish I was so lucky.
It's not something people hear about.
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Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Sean who doth quote:
Oh shit you mean you're completely helpless against one of nine classes? And only if they're good at what they do?I wish I was so lucky.
Haha, you have no idea how much forethought, planning, anticipation, and luck goes into playing a warlock effectively against most classes. Why do you think warlocks are the LEAST played class next to druids? Warlocks (and druids, incidentally) specialize in adaptability, so naturally if they're played well they won't have many chinks in their armor but they're hard to play well.
That said, if I run into a mage with a succubus out, I die. If I run into a rogue with an imp or felhound out, I die. Instant summoning is nice, but it's not always there and even when it is lag has a tendency to make it not quite so instant. Nothing like summoning a pet only to have it actually appear a good 30 seconds later, and since it's database lag and not real lag you're basically open for free spanks.
And lastly, I never really said there was anything wrong with the fact that warriors will hand my ass to me. It just galls me to no end to hear the one class that is my worst nightmare on the battleground claim that I am undefeatable to them.
Maradon: 99% of warlocks on my server have instant cast corruption because it costs only 5 talent points in affliction. It's like Cruelty for non-fury warriors.
I made a 60 warlock on the test server and, having no idea what I was doing, threw together a soul link/20 affliction spec without CoEx, and beat a rank 14 warrior who had transferred his character consistantly. This was without any experience in actually playing a warlock, and only from observing.
I can understand if warriors are the class that gives you the most trouble. That's fine. The fact is that you're acting like warriors are this unstoppable killing machine that warlocks can't touch, and that simply isn't the case.
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Taeldianing:
Sean: I don't really complain about warlocks a lot myself. I just recognize that they're a very, very powerful class.Maradon: 99% of warlocks on my server have instant cast corruption because it costs only 5 talent points in affliction. It's like Cruelty for non-fury warriors.
In a demo/ruin build, those 5 measly talent points are going to cost you one of two things, both of which are more useful than instant corruption: 5/5 MD, or 1/1 ruin and 4/5 of your favorite destruction talents. MD adds tremendous versatility and will get you up to 25% bonus damage with jumper cables, and ruin is pretty much the king of burst damage in the warlock arsenal.
I'm not saying instant corruption isn't great, I'm just saying it's not prefereable to these.
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I made a 60 warlock on the test server and, having no idea what I was doing, threw together a soul link/20 affliction spec without CoEx, and beat a rank 14 warrior who had transferred his character consistantly. This was without any experience in actually playing a warlock, and only from observing.
I can't think of a single reason this might have happened, other than warlocks being obviously superior to warriors! This clearly constitutes irrefutible evidence. I think I'll vote democrat in the next election.
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I can understand if warriors are the class that gives you the most trouble. That's fine. The fact is that you're acting like warriors are this unstoppable killing machine that warlocks can't touch, and that simply isn't the case.
No, I'm not actually. I'm just pointing out that warriors of all kinds can kill warlocks and are, in fact, the one of the best suited classes to do so.
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
I don't know any warriors who survive four shadowbolts. Ever. Well.. with CoS up anyway.
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Ruvyen's fortune cookie read:
The warriors that would bitch endlessly when killed by a warlock are the exact same warriors that would bitch endlessly had they slaughtered the warlock.
And the circle of life is complete.
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Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Delphi Aegis who doth quote:
I don't know any warriors who survive four shadowbolts. Ever. Well.. with CoS up anyway.
You don't know any warriors with more than 4800 hp?
Cause the most +dmg gear possible puts you around 1200 per shadowbolt
