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Kermitov
Pancake
posted 12-26-2005 01:15:44 AM
So one of my christmas presents this year was a .22 rifle that belonged to my Grandfather. It's a Marlin Glenfield model 75 according to the stamping. It's been sitting for a really long time and my plan is to go and get it looked at/cleaned/repaired if necessary, before I try to shoot it. It's the first gun I've ever owned other than pellet guns and the like. Tips? Advice?
Batty
Doesn't Like You. Specifically you.
posted 12-26-2005 01:29:38 AM
Point the barrel away from you.
Kermitov
Pancake
posted 12-26-2005 01:30:53 AM
quote:
Batty said this about your mom:
Point the barrel away from you.

hurrrrrrrrr

Ruvyen
Cartoon Broccoli Boy
posted 12-26-2005 01:40:14 AM
Aim before shooting.
Thief: "I have come to a realisation. Dragons are not real in a general sense, but they may exist in certain specific cases."
Fighter: "Like how quantum mechanics describes how subatomic particles can spontaneously pop into existence at random!"
Thief: "No, that's stupid and stop making up words."
--8-Bit Theater
Kermitov
Pancake
posted 12-26-2005 01:41:24 AM
quote:
Nobody really understood why Ruvyen wrote:
Aim before shooting.

see above

OrangeBrand
By a Truck
posted 12-26-2005 01:45:36 AM
Get a sliencer and sub-sonic bullets and have fun with neighborhood kids.7
SPELLCHECK is a four letter word.
El Cuchillo
RETARD! DO NOT FEED!
posted 12-26-2005 01:55:38 AM
The reason you're getting snarky responses is because honestly this is the sort of thing you should learn in person. Take a gun safety class or something.

But if you insist on getting info off the net, here.

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Kermitov
Pancake
posted 12-26-2005 02:05:32 AM
quote:
We were all impressed when El Cuchillo wrote:
The reason you're getting snarky responses is because honestly this is the sort of thing you should learn in person. Take a gun safety class or something.

But if you insist on getting info off the net, here.



To be honest I was asking more for tips on taking care of the gun, I have never owned anything but pellet guns and similar but my father taught me to shoot on those from a young age and I was always taught to treat any gun in that manner.

So perhaps I should have been more clear. And I expected the snarky responses, because this is EC and that's what we do.

I will most definitely be taking a gun safety class anyway.

Kermitov fucked around with this message on 12-26-2005 at 02:06 AM.

OrangeBrand
By a Truck
posted 12-26-2005 02:30:13 AM
Rust is not your friend.

Get some gun lub, and make sure you use it.

I was serious about the silencer though. I'm getting one, but that's for a whole different reason.

SPELLCHECK is a four letter word.
Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 12-26-2005 02:34:40 AM
THe Glenfield Model 75 is the predecessor of the Marlin Model 60 which is one of the best selling and most reliable .22 Caliber firearms on the market. Chances are that the gun is at least 60-70 years old. If I remember correctly they stopped making those in the 40s. Of course with Firearms, age does not mean they are inferior. You will find that barring any problems with the mechanics of the gun you have a strait shooting and reliable weapon.

Some images would be nice. but depending on the condition of the rifle you can either keep it in it's original condition or work on restoring it. The biggest concern I would have is the bore. Most older ammo was very corrosive so if it was not cleaned very well then the bore could be rusted and pitted. I had a Mauser I didn't clean well after shooting corrosive ammo through and in less than 2 months the barrel looked like a shotguns.

I would really like to see some images or at least get some more details about the gun.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 12-26-2005 02:36:11 AM
quote:
OrangeBrand had this to say about John Romero:
Rust is not your friend.

Get some gun lub, and make sure you use it.

I was serious about the silencer though. I'm getting one, but that's for a whole different reason.


Why do I seriously doubt you know how a silencer works much less what it takes to get one.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Kermitov
Pancake
posted 12-26-2005 02:57:44 AM
quote:
Azizza enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
THe Glenfield Model 75 is the predecessor of the Marlin Model 60 which is one of the best selling and most reliable .22 Caliber firearms on the market. Chances are that the gun is at least 60-70 years old. If I remember correctly they stopped making those in the 40s. Of course with Firearms, age does not mean they are inferior. You will find that barring any problems with the mechanics of the gun you have a strait shooting and reliable weapon.

Some images would be nice. but depending on the condition of the rifle you can either keep it in it's original condition or work on restoring it. The biggest concern I would have is the bore. Most older ammo was very corrosive so if it was not cleaned very well then the bore could be rusted and pitted. I had a Mauser I didn't clean well after shooting corrosive ammo through and in less than 2 months the barrel looked like a shotguns.

I would really like to see some images or at least get some more details about the gun.



Externally at least it looks to be in very good shape, I'll get some photos of it tomorrow. There are a couple gouges in the wood but nothing real bad and no rust at all on the outer surfaces.

nem-x
posted 12-26-2005 03:47:30 AM
Why does a .22 need a silencer
Maradon!
posted 12-26-2005 03:56:05 AM
quote:
Peanut butter ass Shaq Azizza booooze lime pole over bench lick:
Why do I seriously doubt you know how a silencer works much less what it takes to get one.

You can make a silencer out of a two liter pop bottle and paper towels.

Anklebiter
Pancake
posted 12-26-2005 04:23:43 AM
quote:
Nobody really understood why nem-x wrote:
Why does a .22 need a silencer

EVE Online:
Asha Vahishta, Minmatar Pilot.
Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 12-26-2005 06:13:50 AM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Maradon!!
You can make a silencer out of a two liter pop bottle and paper towels.

isnt a real silencer significantly smaller and more efficient than that?

Sure, the paper towels are going to absorb some sound like a kitchens cabinets do ambient noise, but its not going to work too well, right?

(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
Jackman
Racist Hermaphroditic Midget
posted 12-26-2005 10:42:16 AM
isn't a silencer illegal?
Peter: I'm not afraid of anything, I laugh in the face of Death. See HAHAHAHA.
Death: Oh great! Thanks a lot. As if it wasnt already hard enough to fit in.

Some people are like Slinkys... Not really good for anything, But they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 12-26-2005 11:14:53 AM
quote:
This one time, at Jackman camp:
isn't a silencer illegal?

Silencers are Class three which means they have a lot of restrictions. To purchase one you have to get the permission of your County Sheriff or other local law enforcement. After this you have to file paperwork with the ATF and pay a $200.00 tax stamp. THis takes a lot of time and involves a lot of paperwork overall. In addition you have to keep certain paperwork with you at all times and can not cross state lines with it unless you have explicit permission to do so.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Alek
Not The Rapist
posted 12-26-2005 02:17:36 PM
quote:
Azizza had this to say about Tron:
Silencers are Class three which means they have a lot of restrictions. To purchase one you have to get the permission of your County Sheriff or other local law enforcement. After this you have to file paperwork with the ATF and pay a $200.00 tax stamp. THis takes a lot of time and involves a lot of paperwork overall. In addition you have to keep certain paperwork with you at all times and can not cross state lines with it unless you have explicit permission to do so.

Why would you want one in the first place? If noise is a concern, then why not just buy those big noise dampening ear muff things?

"Love wisdom, and she will make you great. Embrace her, and she will bring you honour. She will be your crowning glory."
-Proverbs 4:8-9
Ruvyen
Cartoon Broccoli Boy
posted 12-26-2005 03:17:26 PM
quote:
Alek got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Why would you want one in the first place? If noise is a concern, then why not just buy those big noise dampening ear muff things?

In case you don't want other people to hear it?

Thief: "I have come to a realisation. Dragons are not real in a general sense, but they may exist in certain specific cases."
Fighter: "Like how quantum mechanics describes how subatomic particles can spontaneously pop into existence at random!"
Thief: "No, that's stupid and stop making up words."
--8-Bit Theater
Alek
Not The Rapist
posted 12-26-2005 03:50:26 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Ruvyen was all like:
In case you don't want other people to hear it?

If other people don't want to hear it, they can put on ear muffs too .

"Love wisdom, and she will make you great. Embrace her, and she will bring you honour. She will be your crowning glory."
-Proverbs 4:8-9
Manticore
Not Much Fun Anymore
posted 12-26-2005 07:17:40 PM
quote:
Alek had this to say about dark elf butts:
If other people don't want to hear it, they can put on ear muffs too .

As a courtesy, make sure you bring enough earmuffs for everyone.

"France tried to turtle, but Hitler did a tank rush before they were ready. Just shows how horribly unbalanced real life is. They should release a patch."
Kaiote
Shot in the Face
posted 12-26-2005 07:25:13 PM
Silencers are much easier to make than get the proper license for.

Cheaper too.

Henry had been killed by a garden gnome.He had fallen off the roof onto that cheerful-looking figure. The gnome was made of concrete. Henry wasn't. - Dean Koontz, Velocity
Arttemis
Not Squire... but a guitar!
posted 12-26-2005 10:14:26 PM
quote:
Kaiote had this to say about John Romero:
Silencers are much easier to make than get the proper license for.

Cheaper too.


And is also in violation of federal law.

Sean
posted 12-26-2005 10:17:42 PM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Arttemis wrote:
And is also in violation of federal law.

Listen, now..

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Peter
Pancake
posted 12-26-2005 10:46:57 PM
quote:
Kermitov had this to say about Optimus Prime:
So one of my christmas presents this year was a .22 rifle that belonged to my Grandfather. It's a Marlin Glenfield model 75 according to the stamping. It's been sitting for a really long time and my plan is to go and get it looked at/cleaned/repaired if necessary, before I try to shoot it. It's the first gun I've ever owned other than pellet guns and the like. Tips? Advice?

By a lock of some sort, a locked gun case is best, trigger lock next, I belive the worst to get is that cable through the barrel type. Then buy a lock box for the ammo.

Easy check to see if the gun was cleaned last, with the [bold]bolt open[/bold] and in good light look down the barrel, if you see any small speck or clumps, it needs to be cleaned. If you ever do this sort of inspection with the bolt closed, you are really dumb and deserve your fate. My old man and family always stored out rifles with the bolts opened, and since we came to NJ, we pulled them most of them out and locked them up, and most of the shot guns we store with the barrels off.

If it has been sitting a long time, might want to get a pro/gunsmith to check it out first.

Kermitov
Pancake
posted 12-27-2005 12:52:31 AM
quote:
There was much rejoicing when Peter said this:
By a lock of some sort, a locked gun case is best, trigger lock next, I belive the worst to get is that cable through the barrel type. Then buy a lock box for the ammo.

Easy check to see if the gun was cleaned last, with the [bold]bolt open[/bold] and in good light look down the barrel, if you see any small speck or clumps, it needs to be cleaned. If you ever do this sort of inspection with the bolt closed, you are really dumb and deserve your fate. My old man and family always stored out rifles with the bolts opened, and since we came to NJ, we pulled them most of them out and locked them up, and most of the shot guns we store with the barrels off.

If it has been sitting a long time, might want to get a pro/gunsmith to check it out first.


Check on the lock of some sort.

I took it to a local place today and aside from one missing screw, which I ordered, and being badly in need of a cleaning the guy said it's in decent shape and should make a good reliable gun. I also purchased a cleaning kit.

Here are a couple photos:


I pulled out the cleaning kit this evening and brushed the barrell out and then swabbed it according to the instructions, the little patches came out pretty gunky at first but eventually cleared up. I don't have a manual or anything so I'm not sure how to take apart the mechanism at this point to clean it so I held off on that until my friend can come over and take a look at it.

Kermitov fucked around with this message on 12-27-2005 at 12:53 AM.

Timpofee
Mancake
posted 12-27-2005 11:33:35 AM
Thats a very nice Rifle! Grats
Led
*kaboom*
posted 12-27-2005 12:11:45 PM
I have a firearms question too!

I have been trying to find an old springfield rifle for a while now (my uncle used to have one, it was pretty neat, and I like old fashioned bolty operatey thingies), but no one around here sells any. Plus the ones online are something akin to fifty jillion dollars :x Where could I find one that will not cost an arm, a leg, and a boob?

I mostly want one because I would like to go hunting with my uncle sometime... I have never been, and it seems like it would be something fun to try :3 If only for the stomping around lost in the woods for a couple of days

Sean
posted 12-27-2005 12:13:58 PM
Gun shows.
A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Led
*kaboom*
posted 12-27-2005 12:18:27 PM
quote:
Sean stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
Gun shows.

People at gunshows are scary

Sean
posted 12-27-2005 12:21:32 PM
Stop being a pussy. Gun shows are great fun.
A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

OrangeBrand
By a Truck
posted 12-27-2005 01:48:57 PM
You can damn near buy a used Russian Tank at a Gun show if you ask the right people.

All kidding aside, gun shows are great for finding someone that might have one.

SPELLCHECK is a four letter word.
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 12-27-2005 03:08:02 PM
quote:
Maradon! painfully thought these words up:
You can make a silencer out of a two liter pop bottle and paper towels.

Or just jam a potato over the muzzle.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

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Maradon!
posted 12-27-2005 03:17:33 PM
quote:
Peanut butter ass Shaq Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael booooze lime pole over bench lick:
Or just jam a potato over the muzzle.

That probably wouldn't work.

Alek
Not The Rapist
posted 12-27-2005 03:24:40 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael wrote:
Or just jam a potato over the muzzle.

That has misfire written all over it.

"Love wisdom, and she will make you great. Embrace her, and she will bring you honour. She will be your crowning glory."
-Proverbs 4:8-9
Kaiote
Shot in the Face
posted 12-27-2005 03:25:25 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Arttemis was all like:
And is also in violation of federal law.

Picky, picky.

Henry had been killed by a garden gnome.He had fallen off the roof onto that cheerful-looking figure. The gnome was made of concrete. Henry wasn't. - Dean Koontz, Velocity
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 12-27-2005 05:07:17 PM
quote:
Alek wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
That has misfire written all over it.

Yes, but a quiet misfire.

I remember reading something about potatoes being used as cheap silencers a while back. Close range weapons only.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

OrangeBrand
By a Truck
posted 12-27-2005 05:59:24 PM
There are a lot of ways to me a sliencer. Legally you can obtain one the way someone mentioned earlier, which is the way I am going. Longer ,more expensive way but yet legal with restrictions.(I am trying to get one for my walter P22)

Now to make one of your own. Just google it and you will get flooded with 1 zillon ways to make one.

I have heard of this potatoe silencer also, also heard of a pillow as in many movies.

For the Original poster, I have a ruger 10/22 which I think looks similiar except mine is a magizine feed one. There are several modifications to this type available at any gun show.

SPELLCHECK is a four letter word.
Kaiote
Shot in the Face
posted 12-27-2005 06:22:37 PM
Yes, a potato will work for a .22
Yes, it will lose power.
No, it will not be accurate.

Yes, you can google a zillion ways to make a silencer. Yes, they are illegal unless you have the proper license. Yes, they are even illegal to make, as once they are finished, they are in your possession.

When you apply for a silencer permit, (Or a class 3 in general), make sure you dont say the reason you need it is for "Target practice". A silencer will drop the accuracy of a weapon signifigantly over distance. Which means you would only need target practice to get good WITH a silenced weapon.

Henry had been killed by a garden gnome.He had fallen off the roof onto that cheerful-looking figure. The gnome was made of concrete. Henry wasn't. - Dean Koontz, Velocity
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