Smells of photoshop to me:
The "brtutal orcs...", and isn't that the Org background you see behind all Orcish characters? I'd expect it to be something more akin to the starting area screenshots that have already been posted.
Also, hasn't Tigole hinted at Illidan being the toughest pre-expansion boss? One of the developers have, anyway. Why would the blood elves be serving him if he's supposed to be killed by players, both Horde and Alliance?
quote:hahaah you're silly hahah
Jing.
Smells of photoshop to me:
quote:Yes, it was stated that Illidan would be the hardest mob to kill. Or something akin to that. As to why they'd be serving him... They live in the Outlands because they need Magic to feed off of, and because of the demonic energies there, they can sustain.
Addy.
Also, hasn't Tigole hinted at Illidan being the toughest pre-expansion boss? One of the developers have, anyway. Why would the blood elves be serving him if he's supposed to be killed by players, both Horde and Alliance?
Though all that really doesn't matter because Metzen could twist his lore any which way he wants and still make it believable. Raise an eyebrow, yeah, but still believable. Blackened fucked around with this message on 10-18-2005 at 07:54 PM.
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Blackened probably says this to all the girls:
hahaah you're silly hahaha
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Jing.
Maybe if its not more of the 60 grind I'll go back to WoW for the expansion. Seeing Blizzard as of late, that's not bloody likely though.
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Blackened obviously shouldn't have said:
Yes, it was stated that Illidan would be the hardest mob to kill. Or something akin to that. As to why they'd be serving him... They live in the Outlands because they need Magic to feed off of, and because of the demonic energies there, they can sustain.Though all that really doesn't matter because Metzen could twist his lore any which way he wants and still make it believable. Raise an eyebrow, yeah, but still believable.
It'll be interesting to see what he comes up with. I personally feel the blood elves will break away from Illidan because he's gone whacko, but once again I am not a huge lore buff so I have no idea if that'd make sense~
Another rumor to toss out: People have said the level limit is going to be raised to 70. This has some validation. Why? An Italian gaming magazine released their next issue's cover on their website a bit ago which mentioned WoW's new expansion, The Burning Crusade. Below the title was some Italian mumbo jumbo that translated to (paraphrasing because I can't remember the exact wording) "taking you to the 70th level!" I know I'm not the only one who saw this so does anyone want to give me the actual wording? 
Anyway, it's further "verified" by the fact that they ended up changing the cover a little later. Rumor is Blizzard got pissed at them. ;p
If this is true, what do you think 10 more levels will mean? Is it going to be just ten regular levels or hero class levels?
I hope it's hero class levels.
I want to be a warden dammit. 
EDIT: And just imagine how broken the current game will be with more talent points! Mages and warriors, wtf geez >_< Addy fucked around with this message on 10-18-2005 at 08:03 PM.
quote:I can't imagine 70 'normal' levels working, even if simply because of the way they'd affect talent points.
Addy.
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I'd just assume they're 'special' levels and stay with that.
e:f;b Blackened fucked around with this message on 10-18-2005 at 08:05 PM.
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The logic train ran off the tracks when Addy said:
Another rumor to toss out: People have said the level limit is going to be raised to 70. This has some validation. Why? An Italian gaming magazine released their next issue's cover on their website a bit ago which mentioned WoW's new expansion, The Burning Crusade. Below the title was some Italian mumbo jumbo that translated to (paraphrasing because I can't remember the exact wording) "taking you to the 70th level!" I know I'm not the only one who saw this so does anyone want to give me the actual wording?
).And I have a problem with "twisting lore" as well. Forsaken was bad enough, because I liked the idea of an untouchable, pristine-if-not-slightly-decayed Empire in the hollow ruins of a Human empire not beholden to anyone!
But instead they have dirty orcs and tauren running around.
Blood Elves, much the same, serve their best roles as an independant race that has hunting parties striking out at the Burning Legion's leftovers in Kalimdor through portals from Draenor, and as a sort of corrupting influence that recruits from the dwindling High Elf population.
Actually, one of my favorite plot threads from the WoW lore of late was the High Elves from Theramore trying to draw in Night Elves to the Alliance then trying to force them to cede some of the moonwell-land (or take it by force) and make a new Quel'Thalas.
They're not at war with the Alliance and are only openly hostile with Night Elves (because they're hostile back, and also because blood elves want moon wells for themselves).
But hey, far be it for Lore to stand in the way of the MMORPG. Forsaken and Scarlet Crusade got rolled over into what they are now, so I don't have a lot of hopes for Blood Elves remaining intact.
Pandaren have no real place in Warcraft. They're a gimmick/easter egg race and that's been stated on a few occasions. Pandaria doesn't have a physical location in the world, etc. etc.
Also, I hope other models get touched up. I hate having some player models more recently designed than others. Lashanna fucked around with this message on 10-18-2005 at 08:20 PM.
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Naimah had this to say about (_|_):
They can't give 10 more real levels because that would mean 10 more talent points and that would break all kinds of stuff.
More talent points would encourage more diversity (good), but it would result in some annoying balance problems (bad). That's why hero levels are needed. They want another set of entirely different balance issues to add onto the old issues!
Me bitter? Of course not.
Pandarians better not come out. Period. Maybe as a wandering salesman or something that's rare as hell, but as a race? No. Too rare and not enough is known about them in order to justify them as a playable race.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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Flea thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Pandarians better not come out. Period. Maybe as a wandering salesman or something that's rare as hell, but as a race? No. Too rare and not enough is known about them in order to justify them as a playable race.
If you want to be technical about it, the only races that should be common are humans, dwarves, and the orcs and Forsaken somewhat.
Night Elves shouldn't have a huge population, yet they are the most popular race in the game. Gnomes should barely exist, they are fugitives fleeing from their destroyed capital city. The playable clan of Trolls was one that was being destroyed by other clans, and managed to form a pact with Thrall and the orcs to save themselves. Tauren were mostly wiped out by the centaur until the orcs came around and saved their collective asses.
Also, while there may not be anything really known about Pandaren, that's where lore can be added to support the addition of a new race to the game.
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If you want to be technical about it, the only races that should be common are humans, dwarves, and the orcs and Forsaken somewhat.Night Elves shouldn't have a huge population, yet they are the most popular race in the game. Gnomes should barely exist, they are fugitives fleeing from their destroyed capital city. The playable clan of Trolls was one that was being destroyed by other clans, and managed to form a pact with Thrall and the orcs to save themselves. Tauren were mostly wiped out by the centaur until the orcs came around and saved their collective asses.
Also, while there may not be anything really known about Pandaren, that's where lore can be added to support the addition of a new race to the game.
Dude, Thrall's bases have all the buildings intact; he can train all the Tauren he wants.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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Kuroi Madoushi had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
Dude, Thrall's bases have all the buildings intact; he can train all the Tauren he wants.
Anyway, my younger bro, who most people know as Zaggon, found this interesting picture:
pow
Yes, I realize it's dated 2003, but it's still an interesting picture.
Edit: Then again, there are other pictures showing goblins being a Horde race, along with Blood Elves being a villain race, along side Naga and trolls. 
I'll look around more next time before posting stuff. D:
Willias fucked around with this message on 10-18-2005 at 10:26 PM.
I'm praying here that the Alliance don't get High Elves. Alliance need an interesting race. :/
---Thionking about it, the only Unit races from the RTS games that are not Playable races now are Goblins, Orges, and the High Elves.
--If they add the 10 new levels, possibly have the 10 spec point be used to spec in new "Hero" Talants? Peter fucked around with this message on 10-18-2005 at 11:09 PM.
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Blackened stopped masturbating to porn to say;
I can't imagine 70 'normal' levels working, even if simply because of the way they'd affect talent points.
What I hope they do is add huge chain quests for each level (each separate for each class). These levels do not add talent points. Merely just increase your stats. Then say once you hit level 65, you get 3 choices of which direction you want to take your class (one for each spec). You then have 5 more huge chain quests where now it takes 5+ people to complete. Once you hit level 70 you gain hero class status, a new talent branch and 11 talent points that can only be spent into that new tree.
1) These pictures are fake
2) 100% of the speculation in this thread is completely wrong
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what are the racial bonus/negatives for both the new races? I dont have access to WoW atm
It is all only a rumor so far.
If this does go through, the Horde will get all the idiots
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Mr. Parcelan wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Motherfucker.If this does go through, the Horde will get all the idiots
Maybe. If Alliance gets Pandaren, it should keep a large number of morons there. On the other hand, blood elves might attract some of the better elements of the Alliance who can't get away from the appearance thing (I've met a few of these, nice folks, skilled players, but silly nonetheless).
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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Kuroi Madoushi wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Maybe. If Alliance gets Pandaren, it should keep a large number of morons there. On the other hand, blood elves might attract some of the better elements of the Alliance who can't get away from the appearance thing (I've met a few of these, nice folks, skilled players, but silly nonetheless).
I daresay most people will leave the Alliance in disgust after seeing the Pandaren.
Also: it looks like Blood Elves can EAT DEMONS for attack bonuses.
Cool, but limited. This will turn into another shaft for the Horde. Mr. Parcelan fucked around with this message on 10-19-2005 at 09:18 PM.
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The logic train ran off the tracks when Mr. Parcelan said:
I daresay most people will leave the Alliance in disgust after seeing the Pandaren.Also: it looks like Blood Elves can EAT DEMONS for attack bonuses.
Cool, but limited. This will turn into another shaft for the Horde.
Eh, good with the bad. It's not like the Horde is idiot free as it is and there's bound to be a number of good players that come over.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
Because I thirst for magic.
Parcelan stopped me once, but not again.
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x--LashannaO-('-'Q) :
I'd make a Blood Elf.Because I thirst for magic.
Parcelan stopped me once, but not again.
/flirt
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Jing fucked around with this message on 10-19-2005 at 10:45 PM.
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At least I'm not Lashanna
I'd make a Blood Elf.Because I thirst for magic.
Parcelan stopped me once, but not again.
Lashanna, you fool, you had to be stopped. Your lust for the arcane destroyed your senses and turned you against your friends. I fear that if you ever come that close to that breed of power again, it will be the doom of us all.
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Mr. Parcelan was all like:
Lashanna, you fool, you had to be stopped. Your lust for the arcane destroyed your senses and turned you against your friends. I fear that if you ever come that close to that breed of power again, it will be the doom of us all.
You act like she was the only person burning bridges. 
It's not something people hear about.
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Maradon!'s fortune cookie read:
Faaaaaaaaaaaaaake
The last screenshot shown in the new Blood Elf set is a screenshot of an actual place in the Black Morass. A real pic to make the rest seem more truthful? Hell if I know.
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Maradon! thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Faaaaaaaaaaaaaake
What, all of them?
The Karazhan shots are similar in flavour to the concept sketches of Karazhan in the Art book, and the horse head motif matches something Metzen discussed in an interview sometime last year about his plans for the instance and pre-existing lore...
Edit - went through some channels and got a Blizzard employee to say:
quote:More to come later, maybe
Blood elves for Horde, starting area above Plaguelands. The newbie zone for them will be demo'd at the Con. Level cap is going to be 70.Blizz was training their staff with simulated panels. What I thought was funny was that they assigned people to be angry/rude/etc. so the panel groups would be prepared for the worst the fanbase can bring.
Little things that make you grin: Friend of mine does some programming on the Chinese servers, tried to update while servers were live and locked it up. Every player who was in the aggro range of a mob or in the path of one died before the servers could be reset. Basically an enitre server got killed.
Blackened fucked around with this message on 10-20-2005 at 07:51 AM.
http://addy.cantstoptherock.com/wow22cz.jpg Addy fucked around with this message on 10-20-2005 at 04:45 PM.
