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Faelynn LeAndris wrote this stupid crap:
Of course I'm the exact opposite of the biggest whine you hear from kids in school, "I do great on the work, but I just can't pass a test to save my life."I was just lazy, and never did my class work, but you give me a test and I'd ace it.
My high school career in a nutshell, ladies and gents! Wake up, take the tests, sleep through the rest of the class, go to next class, repeat, next class, repeat, lunch, etc.
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael thought about the meaning of life:
My high school career in a nutshell, ladies and gents! Wake up, take the tests, sleep through the rest of the class, go to next class, repeat, next class, repeat, lunch, etc.
That's what I did too. The sad thing is I could do that in college too if I wanted to.
That shouldn't be. Fizodeth fucked around with this message on 10-03-2005 at 04:15 PM.
In my opinion, Freshman year of college has become the remedial fifth year of high school. Why do freshmen have to take a composition course? There's no excuse why students shouldn't have been exposed to MLA or APA format prior to freshman year of college. A biology requirement? Bloody hell! I took it my freshman year of high school! PhysEd? Go the fuck away. I'm an ADULT now. If I want to be a great bloody fatty, it's not anyone's business.
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A sleep deprived Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael stammered:
In my opinion, Freshman year of college has become the remedial fifth year of high school. Why do freshmen have to take a composition course? There's no excuse why students shouldn't have been exposed to MLA or APA format prior to freshman year of college. A biology requirement? Bloody hell! I took it my freshman year of high school! PhysEd? Go the fuck away. I'm an ADULT now. If I want to be a great bloody fatty, it's not anyone's business.
Intriguing perspective, that. In the fifth chapter of my math 120 book, we have order of operations. So far, it's covered everything that my high school math teachers covered some 5-6 years ago. This being a course labeled Math for General Education, I kind of wonder if our entire education system isn't degrading to accomodate irresponsible students; I say this because there are lower level courses for those who have difficulty understanding but that do not give credit toward gen ed. My entire arguement this entire time, by the way, has been toward the irresponsible and lazy students, not the ones who have a hard time despite their efforts.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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Vernaltemptress got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
It's embarrassing to visit foreign countries knowing that in Europe, when you go to a restaurant, the server is more likely to tally your bill in his/her head while at your table than use a calculator or computer.
Let me get this straight. You expect servers to do your bill in their head.
Let's look a sample bill for a family of four at a casual diner.
Hamburger 4.59
+.30 cheese
Salad 3.89
Sandwich 5.78
+.25 bacon
Chicken 4.50
Iced Tea 1.09
Coke 1.05
Dr. Pepper 1.05
Water N/C
Pie 2.09
Pie 2.59
I certainly *can* add this in my head, but I definately don't *want* to. I don't think it would be embarassing if I were to use a calculator to add this up.
I did use a calculator and it came out to 27.18. That's spiffy and all, but then I have to add sales tax, so please multiply that by 1.07 in your head for me.
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I don't think that the fact that we have technology to do tedious math operations like that for us is "embarassing" but rather intelligent. Why waste time (and therefore money) doing basic math when you can use a calculator?
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This insanity brought to you by Noxhil2:
Let me get this straight. You expect servers to do your bill in their head.Let's look a sample bill for a family of four at a casual diner.
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I certainly *can* add this in my head, but I definately don't *want* to. I don't think it would be embarassing if I were to use a calculator to add this up.
I did use a calculator and it came out to 27.18. That's spiffy and all, but then I have to add sales tax, so please multiply that by 1.07 in your head for me.
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I don't think that the fact that we have technology to do tedious math operations like that for us is "embarassing" but rather intelligent. Why waste time (and therefore money) doing basic math when you can use a calculator?
I think her point was that the server was more apt to capable of doing so, not that she expected it.
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Check out the big brain on Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael!
In my opinion, Freshman year of college has become the remedial fifth year of high school. Why do freshmen have to take a composition course? There's no excuse why students shouldn't have been exposed to MLA or APA format prior to freshman year of college. A biology requirement? Bloody hell! I took it my freshman year of high school! PhysEd? Go the fuck away. I'm an ADULT now. If I want to be a great bloody fatty, it's not anyone's business.
I agree to an extent. Professors at college are having to reteach a lot of stuff to freshman who don't know the basics.
But I do think Freshman at college should be taking basic "college" courses. By that I mean a composition course, but at the college level of writing; same for Biology and such.
I have no problem with a PhysEd requirement either, since college isn't required, you sign up for it voluntarily. Besides, some of the best schools have PhysEd requirements, being somewhat phsyically fit is part of being a well-rounded student.
Besides, it's in your best interest to not be a fatty, the latest trend for companies is to give new employees a physical, the worse they do, the more they pay into Medical Insurance. Saves the company a boatload of money. Reynar fucked around with this message on 10-03-2005 at 07:53 PM.
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Channeling the spirit of Sherlock Holmes, Noxhil2 absently fondled Watson and proclaimed:
Let me get this straight. You expect servers to do your bill in their head.Let's look a sample bill for a family of four at a casual diner.
Hamburger 4.59
+.30 cheese
Salad 3.89
Sandwich 5.78
+.25 bacon
Chicken 4.50
Iced Tea 1.09
Coke 1.05
Dr. Pepper 1.05
Water N/C
Pie 2.09
Pie 2.59I certainly *can* add this in my head, but I definately don't *want* to. I don't think it would be embarassing if I were to use a calculator to add this up.
I did use a calculator and it came out to 27.18. That's spiffy and all, but then I have to add sales tax, so please multiply that by 1.07 in your head for me.
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I don't think that the fact that we have technology to do tedious math operations like that for us is "embarassing" but rather intelligent. Why waste time (and therefore money) doing basic math when you can use a calculator?
Then here's an example for you:
At Starbucks in Carmel-by-the-Sea Saturday, I bought two coffees, for a grand total of $5.30. Not wanting a wallet full(er) of 1s, I handed the cashier a ten and a one. He looked at the one oddly, set it aside, and then entered $10 into his machine as cash tendered. When the machine told him the change was $4.70, he gave me back my one along with the change the machine told him to.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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This one time, at Noxhil2 camp:
Let me get this straight. You expect servers to do your bill in their head.I did use a calculator and it came out to 27.18. That's spiffy and all, but then I have to add sales tax, so please multiply that by 1.07 in your head for me.
I don't think that the fact that we have technology to do tedious math operations like that for us is "embarassing" but rather intelligent. Why waste time (and therefore money) doing basic math when you can use a calculator?
I don't expect it, it's done when the server prefers to do so. And sales tax and service is included in the price so there's no additional calculation needed.
And why? For those times when the power is out, when other servers are hogging the calculator/computer, etc. Or just to maintain mental fitness since we all know that mental fitness is a key to longevity. 
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Vernaltemptress had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
I don't expect it, it's done when the server prefers to do so. And sales tax and service is included in the price so there's no additional calculation needed.And why? For those times when the power is out, when other servers are hogging the calculator/computer, etc. Or just to maintain mental fitness since we all know that mental fitness is a key to longevity.
Expecting more than the bare minimum from people? For shame! You can't do that! It would damage them!
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It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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Noxhil2 thought about the meaning of life:
but then I have to add sales tax
Unlike the US, Europe, Australia (and much of the rest of the world) INCLUDES such taxes in the listed prices of items (and yes, this is even BEFORE the introcudtion of a VAT/GST/whatever-you-want-to-call-it).
It is highly illogical to me to go into a store, see an item priced at $1.59, and then be told that the price at check-out is $1.74 (or more, depending on the tax rate).
Now, getting back to the topic:
Just because you can use a calculator, doesnt mean that someone who cant pass a test AIMED 4 LEVELS BELOW THEIR ABILITY should automatically get a graduation diploma. That's like suggesting that an Elementary student hould be passed to Junior High because they can do a finger-painting. 
Perhaps, Noxhil, you'd like to debate the TOPIC, rather than trying to throw flames at someone for pointing out what happens in the real world.
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Cavalier- had this to say about Captain Planet:
Just because you can use a calculator, doesnt mean that someone who cant pass a test AIMED 4 LEVELS BELOW THEIR ABILITY should automatically get a graduation diploma. That's like suggesting that an Elementary student hould be passed to Junior High because they can do a finger-painting.
It's really not like suggesting that at all, since someone with at least a basic grasp of school subjects (post-elementary school) is a lot different than someone with a basic grasp of finger-painting 
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Bloodsage had this to say about Cuba:
At Starbucks in Carmel-by-the-Sea Saturday, I bought two coffees, for a grand total of $5.30. Not wanting a wallet full(er) of 1s, I handed the cashier a ten and a one. He looked at the one oddly, set it aside, and then entered $10 into his machine as cash tendered. When the machine told him the change was $4.70, he gave me back my one along with the change the machine told him to.
Jesus Christ, what a retard. He makes me feel ashamed to be a register jockey. Albeit, similiar, yet opposite refreshments(booze ftw)
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Bloodsage had this to say about Knight Rider:
Then here's an example for you:At Starbucks in Carmel-by-the-Sea Saturday, I bought two coffees, for a grand total of $5.30. Not wanting a wallet full(er) of 1s, I handed the cashier a ten and a one. He looked at the one oddly, set it aside, and then entered $10 into his machine as cash tendered. When the machine told him the change was $4.70, he gave me back my one along with the change the machine told him to.
Thankfully not all cashiers do this.
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Vernaltemptress had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
I don't expect it, it's done when the server prefers to do so. And sales tax and service is included in the price so there's no additional calculation needed.And why? For those times when the power is out, when other servers are hogging the calculator/computer, etc. Or just to maintain mental fitness since we all know that mental fitness is a key to longevity.
Ahh ok. I misunderstood; I read it as you expected servers in the U.S. to do it and I thought that was unfair. It's perfectly reasonable to expect people to be able to add stuff like 6.50 + 3.00 etc. especially if the tax is built-in.
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From the book of Cavalier-, chapter 3, verse 16:
Since you want to run off-topic...Unlike the US, Europe, Australia (and much of the rest of the world) INCLUDES such taxes in the listed prices of items (and yes, this is even BEFORE the introcudtion of a VAT/GST/whatever-you-want-to-call-it).
It is highly illogical to me to go into a store, see an item priced at $1.59, and then be told that the price at check-out is $1.74 (or more, depending on the tax rate).
Now, getting back to the topic:
Just because you can use a calculator, doesnt mean that someone who cant pass a test AIMED 4 LEVELS BELOW THEIR ABILITY should automatically get a graduation diploma. That's like suggesting that an Elementary student hould be passed to Junior High because they can do a finger-painting.
Perhaps, Noxhil, you'd like to debate the TOPIC, rather than trying to throw flames at someone for pointing out what happens in the real world.
The reason I included sales tax calculation is to show that it is unreasonable to expect servers to do bills in their head in the United States. I don't really care to further discuss that point since I misinterpreted what Vernal said anyway. I understand that the United States in a phenomena in not putting the actual price for things.
I have no idea what you are saying about calculators. If someone can use a calculator to do math and it doesn't interfer with their job then I don't think that is a problem. It'd be nice if math was easy for everyone but I'm not naive enough to believe that.
I had no idea I was flaming, nor trying to flame anyone. Yes my post was moderately off-topic but it was related topic and directly derived from the original post. To me, your post seemed the most like a flame in this thread so far.
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Gadani had this to say about pies:
It's really not like suggesting that at all, since someone with at least a basic grasp of school subjects (post-elementary school) is a lot different than someone with a basic grasp of finger-painting
It's only a small exaggeration. Four years prior to junior would be...2nd or 3rd grade, depending on the school. A child that can only grasp things on the level of finger-painting is about as well equipped to enter junior high as a kid that can only grasp junior high level concepts is to enter college.
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Verily, the chocolate bunny rabits doth run and play while Fazum'Zen Fastfist gently hums:
If someone can't think at an 8th grade level in their senior year in high school, they have bigger problems than not graduating.
Nonono! You've got it all wrong. They're really really really smart inside, but they just can't apply the knowledge in real-world, time-limited situations. It's not the same thing at all, just like the 35 year-old living with the 'rents and bragging about a huge IQ should be given the same deference as someone who's actually done something with his life.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage obviously shouldn't have said:
Nonono! You've got it all wrong. They're really really really smart inside, but they just can't apply the knowledge in real-world, time-limited situations. It's not the same thing at all, just like the 35 year-old living with the 'rents and bragging about a huge IQ should be given the same deference as someone who's actually done something with his life.
I 
you.
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FUCK. MOTHERFUCKING SHIT. DO YOU FUCKING KNOW HOW FUCKING STUPID YOU ARE? SHIT. FUCK. It's not your fault, Kuroi Madoushi.
Iyou.
Your sig is too big and you're still too stupid.
It's not something people hear about.
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Sean Model 2000 was programmed to say:
Your sig is too big and you're still too stupid.
Your mind seems to be smaller than your sig yet you don't hear me complaining. Prz to b taking ur trolling elsewhere. 
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This insanity brought to you by Kuroi Madoushi:
Your mind seems to be smaller than your sig yet you don't hear me complaining. Prz to b taking ur trolling elsewhere.
Please stop posting.
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Kegwen was listening to Cher while typing:
Please stop posting.
Give it up. I believe I've said before that I won't honor such demands or requests.
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Reynar had this to say about pies:
Besides, it's in your best interest to not be a fatty, the latest trend for companies is to give new employees a physical, the worse they do, the more they pay into Medical Insurance. Saves the company a boatload of money.
So I have to choose to pay to take 15 weeks of once-a-week exercise that will do approximately dick so that I can still fail a physical and pay more for insurance anyway? Give me a break.
I tested out of swimming (got all sorts of Red Cross certs), but I still found it irritating.
As for the idea of "basic" college classes, I have NO problem with that. Calculus, basic literature, world civilization, geography, philosophy, LOGIC (I think every freshman needs to take a course in Logic. I can NOT stress this enough), to get them prepared to deal with later classes.
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So I'll just say Maho sucks, Jackman sucks, and I love popcorn, just to cover all the bases.
It's not something people hear about.
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Bloodsage's fortune cookie read:
Then here's an example for you:At Starbucks in Carmel-by-the-Sea Saturday, I bought two coffees, for a grand total of $5.30. Not wanting a wallet full(er) of 1s, I handed the cashier a ten and a one. He looked at the one oddly, set it aside, and then entered $10 into his machine as cash tendered. When the machine told him the change was $4.70, he gave me back my one along with the change the machine told him to.
You know when I was running the register; I would be asking the customers if they had odd bits of change so I could give the bigger bills back or avoiding having to give handfuls of change back.
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Vernaltemptress had this to say about dark elf butts:
... the server is more likely to tally your bill in his/her head while at your table than use a calculator or computer. And most people know at least two languages no matter what profession they're in. ...
You know, even the dinners and mom and pop places here in Jersey have to run the orders through a register first in order to get the bill, And in some cases The bars run a separate software program that I can only guess is to track the booze or tips. Not to mention dealing with the credit cards.
---As for the two languages, Really, the US of a is larger than Europe on whole, and only one of the bordering countries speaks something other than English, compared to a European country that can share borders with like 3 other countries that all speak different Languages, Is it little wonder why people tend to be bilingual over there? And Last I was in school, They pretty much rammed Spanish down our throats, Even if it wasn't required they got nearly every kid to sign up for classes. I wanted to take Latin, But apparently kids that are not in AP or Honors are to dumb to learn it.
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Kegwen stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Please stop posting.
At least he's not Somtho...Jackman?
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Bloodsage wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
the 35 year-old living with the 'rents and bragging about a huge IQ should be given the same deference as someone who's actually done something with his life.
You leave Mightion out of this.
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Snoota's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
You leave Mightion out of this.
