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Topic: EQ2 vs. WoW
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 11-16-2004 03:17:45 AM
quote:
The logic train ran off the tracks when Rodent King said:
I would like to bring up the point that EQ2 is out, and running relatively smoothly. WoW can't seem to make it past their betas stress tests.

That was a stupid comment. This coming from someone that hasn't enjoyed WoW at all.

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 11-16-2004 03:29:36 AM
quote:
Rodent King stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
I would like to bring up the point that EQ2 is out, and running relatively smoothly. WoW can't seem to make it past their betas stress tests.

~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Holden
French Cocksucker
posted 11-16-2004 06:51:52 AM
*Installs Half-life 2*

"America is dumb, it's like a dumb puppy that has big teeth that can bite and hurt you..."
Blackened
posted 11-16-2004 09:55:07 AM
quote:
Kegwen probably says this to all the girls:
That was a stupid comment. This coming from someone that hasn't enjoyed WoW at all.
a comment from an obvious EQ fanboy.

RK's posts on anything about WoW make me laugh.


Although my distaste for you as a human being is brobdingnagian,
what I'm about to do isn't personal.
Addy
posted 11-16-2004 01:12:59 PM
Follow-up to a horribly written EQ2vWoW article... it'd be cool if someone who had a LOT of experience for both games to write one sometime, though. While I think both are good games, comparisons can be fun to read.

(Well, it's not the one I was thinking of... but... meh, still could've been better)

(This is written by someone who played EQ2 more thoroughly than WoW)

http://www.eqii.com/articles.php?t=21329

Addy fucked around with this message on 11-16-2004 at 01:17 PM.

Alaan
posted 11-16-2004 01:22:18 PM
quote:
Rodent King probably says this to all the girls:
I would like to bring up the point that EQ2 is out, and running relatively smoothly. WoW can't seem to make it past their betas stress tests.

Deth:

quote:
My only REAL beef right now is that the fadbois are still in the game and they flood the servers, causing some zones to lock up. Lyinar and I were trapped in Qeynos on Najena for like an hour last night; couldn't leave the zone through any of the zone lines, and it was apparently happening on multiple servers, and it was apparently happening because the load was too high.

About the same thing that happened to WoW. And that trouble is practically non-existant in WoW now.

Addy
posted 11-16-2004 01:44:32 PM
quote:
Alaan's account was hax0red to write:
About the same thing that happened to WoW. And that trouble is practically non-existant in WoW now.

I don't experience that in EQ2. Maybe it's because I'm in Freeport though... but I'm also on one of the FULL servers. The RP one, nonetheless.

Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 11-16-2004 01:48:57 PM
Inkies of the Freeport Unite! ^.^

<hands Addy a cookie> I just noticed...I picked the same hair style that you have Addy...

Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Addy
posted 11-16-2004 01:51:41 PM
quote:
Katrinity had this to say about John Romero:
Inkies of the Freeport Unite! ^.^

<hands Addy a cookie> I just noticed...I picked the same hair style that you have Addy...


Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 11-16-2004 01:57:11 PM
quote:
Addy wrote this stupid crap:

Is there a way to change in the game? Like a hair stylist shop? Otherwise, I'll restart and get that other nifty one under the Serpent's Tail.

Katrinity fucked around with this message on 11-16-2004 at 01:57 PM.

Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Addy
posted 11-16-2004 01:59:47 PM
quote:
Katrinity's account was hax0red to write:
Is there a way to change in the game? Like a hair stylist shop? Otherwise, I'll restart and get that other nifty one under the Serpent's Tail.

Hah, I don't care if you have the same hairstyle as me ;D But, no, there aren't any hair stylists in game at the moment.

Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 11-16-2004 02:04:04 PM
Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Jania Arindelil
Is really cute and cuddly... just needs a hug
posted 11-16-2004 02:55:53 PM
I think I picked Serpent's Tail for Lydia, too. I liked the look of that one.

And it's possible, Addy. Dens commented that Qeynos is like that on any server, because there are more good than evil people and you get 60+ people just sitting in the zone and idling.

I definitely see less of that on Lucan, and that's another of the full RP-preferred servers like Antonia Bayle, but I'm also Freeport there, too.


Jania Arindelil
Dragon Guardian, Grandmaster Archer
Very Cranky Person
"I'll torture you so slowly, you'll think it's a career." - Darwin Mayflower
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 11-16-2004 06:48:47 PM
Yeah Freeport in any server seems easier than Q.

Let's see...EQ2 v WoW...

Alliance would win to Qeynos. Qeynos is too happy-hippy-funnest-place-on-Earth. Also asslings, which the Alliance is not saddled with...both sides have gnomes, however...though gnomes aren't so bad once you know what to expect. Alliance wins because they're more battle-hardened.

Alliance gets rolled over by Freeport, though. I give them maybe a week. Alliance got pwned by the undead, after all, and while they handle demons fine, they lack against the dead. Likewise, Freeport is hyper-organized. It's like the fantasy version of Communist Russia, except it works.

Freeport vs Horde is pretty balanced, though. Could go either way. Orcs have lots of experience with fighting dark magic, and they have their own ways to fight it. The Undead advantage doesn't go to Freeport this time, but they are better organized than the rag-tag Horde.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Rodent King
Stabbed in the Eye
posted 11-16-2004 09:02:01 PM
quote:
Kegwen obviously shouldn't have said:
That was a stupid comment. This coming from someone that hasn't enjoyed WoW at all.

How is it stupid? I haven't played either EQ2 or WoW. I've gotten different oppinions from people who have, and there are both good and bad on both sides.

I wasn't saying anything at all about the gameplay though in that post, is it not true that Sony's game is out with a reasonably smooth launch? I remember reading a thread here a few days ago talking about how it was very well done. Am I wrong in saying that Blizzard had a closed beta, then a stress test, then an open beta, then found that they weren't ready to go gold, so they called it another stress test?

I'm only going on things people tell me here on the EC boards and through word of mouth, but if they're true; how am I wrong?

My inner child is bigger than my outer adult.
Sean
posted 11-16-2004 09:48:01 PM
quote:
Rodent King wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
I remember reading a thread here a few days ago talking about how it was very well done. Am I wrong in saying that Blizzard had a closed beta, then a stress test, then an open beta, then found that they weren't ready to go gold, so they called it another stress test?

I'm only going on things people tell me here on the EC boards and through word of mouth, but if they're true; how am I wrong?


The key point here is official, pay-to-play launch versus an open-stress-test beta.

You can't compare the two. You compare official launches to official launches, or open betas to open betas. It's not apples and oranges, it's apples and apple seeds.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Lashanna
noob
posted 11-16-2004 11:13:09 PM
quote:
How.... Sean.... uughhhhhh:
It's not apples and oranges, it's apples and apple seeds.

That probably sounded a lot more clever when you came up with it.

( )

Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Sean
posted 11-16-2004 11:50:50 PM
quote:
Lashanna had this to say about Duck Tales:
That probably sounded a lot more clever when you came up with it.

See, the apple seed is the.. it grows into.. and if you want, you can crack it.. Sigh.

Let's turn to the box and see what John Madden thinks.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Rodent King
Stabbed in the Eye
posted 11-17-2004 01:11:22 AM
quote:
Sean wrote this stupid crap:
The key point here is official, pay-to-play launch versus an open-stress-test beta.

You can't compare the two. You compare official launches to official launches, or open betas to open betas. It's not apples and oranges, it's apples and apple seeds.


My point is that Sony's got more experience with online games, knows what to expect, and is right on track. They even bumped up their release date right? Blizzard seems like it's starting to struggle already to keep their with their target dates. (Then again, when has Blizzard ever been punctual on release dates?)

It's not apples and apple seeds, it's a horse race. EQ2's hugging the rail and moving fast, WoW's tripping before it gets to the gate.

See? I can make confusing analogies too.

Rodent King fucked around with this message on 11-17-2004 at 01:12 AM.

My inner child is bigger than my outer adult.
Niklas
hay guys whats going on in this title?
posted 11-17-2004 02:55:53 AM
I don't know where you got 'never punctual on release dates' from. Blizzard is known for not missing deadlines. Mainly by not announcing them but still.

They take their sweet time and usually release a good product at the end. WoW is already damn fun (notice I'm not saying EQ2 isn't) so I don't see where your problem is.

Niklas fucked around with this message on 11-17-2004 at 02:57 AM.

Caid '5 Fists' Berrit
I've had a few beers but I'm cool to drive
posted 11-17-2004 03:04:34 AM
Yeah word to that Niklas, word to that.
'But if I had a shotgun you know what I'd do?
I'd point that shit straight at the sky and shoot heavan on down for you'

Bradley Nowell
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 11-17-2004 07:30:41 AM
quote:
Rodent King's account was hax0red to write:
My point is that Sony's got more experience with online games, knows what to expect, and is right on track. They even bumped up their release date right? Blizzard seems like it's starting to struggle already to keep their with their target dates. (Then again, when has Blizzard ever been punctual on release dates?)

It's not apples and apple seeds, it's a horse race. EQ2's hugging the rail and moving fast, WoW's tripping before it gets to the gate.

See? I can make confusing analogies too.


Actually, two nights ago (Was it two nights? Been playing too much..), they did something to their database backend. Since then, there has been NO lag, NO lines (Even on a PvP server that's high at all times I've checked it) and no waiting five minutes for an item to pop into your inventory. They've done beautifully with WoW.. and omfg so many fucking quests.. each with a fully fleshed out, thought out story..

For the Horde succubus quest in Orgrimmar, you talk to a slut who's hubby went missing. Travel to crossroads, UH OH he's hurt. Get healing salve from bumsfuckville, egypt; find his last location. UH OH he's been taken prisoner. You fight to rescue him and give him his strength to fight back.. but his leg and arm are missing.. So he gives you his pendant and says he'll die fighting rather then make his love wait on a cripple her whole life. So you take the pendant, use it to summon a succubus, defeat her, and gain the ability to summon one. The undead version has you killing two guys in the middle of NOWHERE (re: AlliaceGankvilleUSA) for their hearts, because they're all lonely or someshit.

I could spend a hundred days ingame on a hundred characters and not finish all the quests in this game.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 11-17-2004 07:46:11 AM
quote:
The logic train ran off the tracks when Niklas said:
I don't know where you got 'never punctual on release dates' from. Blizzard is known for not missing deadlines. Mainly by not announcing them but still.

They take their sweet time and usually release a good product at the end. WoW is already damn fun (notice I'm not saying EQ2 isn't) so I don't see where your problem is.


Diablo 2. In-Store pre-order, then it got pushed back by over the year, almost making Diablo 2 obsolete before it ever hit the shelves. I'll grant your point that the games are 100% solid on launch, but please...don't claim Blizzard hits it's dates.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Niklas
hay guys whats going on in this title?
posted 11-17-2004 07:54:38 AM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about Cuba:
Diablo 2. In-Store pre-order, then it got pushed back by over the year, almost making Diablo 2 obsolete before it ever hit the shelves. I'll grant your point that the games are 100% solid on launch, but please...don't claim Blizzard hits it's dates.

Stores often offer things for pre-order before any release date has been given. Blizzard never ever gives out release dates before they're completely sure.

Note that this does not include in-company deadlines. I have no way of knowing the state of those.

Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 11-17-2004 08:20:24 AM
quote:
Niklas wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Stores often offer things for pre-order before any release date has been given. Blizzard never ever gives out release dates before they're completely sure.

Note that this does not include in-company deadlines. I have no way of knowing the state of those.


I'm pretty sure that the inside cover of my starcraft brood war disk said "Diablo II, coming in 1999"

Niklas
hay guys whats going on in this title?
posted 11-17-2004 08:38:41 AM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Blindy.:
I'm pretty sure that the inside cover of my starcraft brood war disk said "Diablo II, coming in 1999"

Fair enough. I guess I was wrong about Diablo II.

Addy
posted 11-17-2004 11:42:05 AM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Delphi Aegis:
Actually, two nights ago (Was it two nights? Been playing too much..), they did something to their database backend. Since then, there has been NO lag, NO lines (Even on a PvP server that's high at all times I've checked it) and no waiting five minutes for an item to pop into your inventory. They've done beautifully with WoW.. and omfg so many fucking quests.. each with a fully fleshed out, thought out story..

For the Horde succubus quest in Orgrimmar, you talk to a slut who's hubby went missing. Travel to crossroads, UH OH he's hurt. Get healing salve from bumsfuckville, egypt; find his last location. UH OH he's been taken prisoner. You fight to rescue him and give him his strength to fight back.. but his leg and arm are missing.. So he gives you his pendant and says he'll die fighting rather then make his love wait on a cripple her whole life. So you take the pendant, use it to summon a succubus, defeat her, and gain the ability to summon one. The undead version has you killing two guys in the middle of NOWHERE (re: AlliaceGankvilleUSA) for their hearts, because they're all lonely or someshit.

I could spend a hundred days ingame on a hundred characters and not finish all the quests in this game.


Because EQ2 doesn't have immersive quests either rite

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 11-17-2004 12:05:22 PM
Lag in WoW is killing me today. It's horrible. =/

Ah, anyway. Guess I delete the beta now.

~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 11-17-2004 02:33:00 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Addy was all like:
Because EQ2 doesn't have immersive quests either rite

I never said that it didn't.

Addy
posted 11-17-2004 02:36:44 PM
quote:
Delphi Aegis had this to say about Knight Rider:
I never said that it didn't.

Awwww

I have to agree though, both WoW and EQ2 have rather excellent quests. Not just WoW. Not just EQ2. Both.

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 11-17-2004 02:42:13 PM
quote:
Addy's account was hax0red to write:
Awwww

I have to agree though, both WoW and EQ2 have rather excellent quests. Not just WoW. Not just EQ2. Both.


Yeah. Hows the UI system for EQ? Are they actively supporting the community (Like, offering help on boards or whatever)?

I know my gameplay got about 20x better when I installed Cosmos.. the extra six hotkeys alone are uber, not to mention the questminion (That it seems EQ has by default)

Addy
posted 11-17-2004 03:23:24 PM
quote:
Delphi Aegis had this to say about Punky Brewster:
Yeah. Hows the UI system for EQ? Are they actively supporting the community (Like, offering help on boards or whatever)?

I know my gameplay got about 20x better when I installed Cosmos.. the extra six hotkeys alone are uber, not to mention the questminion (That it seems EQ has by default)


Similar UI system as before, although I read some developers are having a bit of trouble getting used to EQ2's system.

Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 11-17-2004 04:28:31 PM
quote:
The logic train ran off the tracks when Delphi Aegis said:
Yeah. Hows the UI system for EQ? Are they actively supporting the community (Like, offering help on boards or whatever)?

I know my gameplay got about 20x better when I installed Cosmos.. the extra six hotkeys alone are uber, not to mention the questminion (That it seems EQ has by default)


Honestly, there isn't a single thing I want added to the UI of everquest II.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 11-17-2004 05:34:22 PM
I got to kick a gnome in the nuts as part of a quest.

Life is good.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 11-17-2004 06:23:26 PM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Blindy. wrote:
Honestly, there isn't a single thing I want added to the UI of everquest II.
I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piƱa coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 11-17-2004 07:58:30 PM
Yeah I don't feel the need for custom UI like I do in EQ1. Everything is nice now that I know how to set macro keys and so forth (and that was mostly my fault for not nosing around in the settings).
Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 11-17-2004 08:28:37 PM
The Rumbleshot Ammo(WoW Dwarf) quest is one of the greatest quests ever, only for the end. After you hand Rumbleshot his lost crate of ammo, he says something about already having buyers for it.

Then the five Dwarves(Two Riflemen, a spotter, and two mortar men) sitting around Rumbleshot buy the ammo and walk about fifty feet to this mortar stand with targets up in the distance.

First Dwarf misses all three of his targets badly, and the second one laughs at him. Then he misses his targets, and the first one goes again, tells him he was just messing with him, and "shoots from the hip" and takes out all three targets in seconds and turns to the other one and says in a full voice over, "This is... mah... BOOMSTICK!"

Then the mortar team start taking out targets, and after they blow them all up one of them starts singing, again in a full voice over, "I'm TNT... I'm dynamite..."

Mr. Parcelan
posted 11-17-2004 08:35:52 PM
There are some very fun quests.

After hunting down yetis for a goblin inventor, she made me a Mechanical Yeti and wanted me to go test it for her.

So I travelled around the world, releasing the mechanical yeti and watching as the goblins I tried it on ran around screaming "Why do you chase me, mechanical yeti?! WHY?!"

Aaron (the good one)
posted 11-18-2004 04:56:20 AM
For Mechanical Squirrels and such, are there charges or just a refresh timer?
Galbadia Hotel - Video Game Music
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Mr. Parcelan
posted 11-18-2004 11:22:45 AM
quote:
Delidgamond stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
just a refresh timer
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