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From the book of Drysart, chapter 3, verse 16:
Oh, so you're voting for Bush.
Well I - what?
oh yeah, that.
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Maradon! came out of the closet to say:
Kerry openly opposes gay marriage as well, but I guess that depends on who's asking him and what state he's in at the time
Kerry is against gay "marriage" but for civil unions guaranteed to have the same rights and privileges as marriage. This article explains it rather clearly. People who don't understand nuance like to paint that as him being on both sides of the issue. Of course, I'm sure you'd never stoop to such an anti-intellectual "hurr kerry flip flops" stance by ignoring the facts, right?
Waisz fucked around with this message on 05-18-2004 at 11:23 PM.
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Maradon! spewed forth this undeniable truth:
Kerry openly opposes gay marriage as well, but I guess that depends on who's asking him and what state he's in at the time
Azizza has shown me the truth...what's the date set for the gay marriage between you and CBTao?
Let's say there's a 24 year old woman. She's going to get married.
There is a 26 year old man, and a 26 year old woman. Neither of them are related to her, or have any other problems (physical, mental, social, or moral) to keep them from being married to her.
If the man tries to marry her, it's legal.
If the woman tries to marry her, it's illegal.
The difference between legal and illegal? Just gender. It's legal for a man, but illegal for a woman.
And that's just wrong.
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Fazum'Zen Fastfist had this to say about John Romero:
Yeah, there really should be gay civil unions, it would help keep homosexuals faithful and therefore lower HIV rates
Marriage hasn't kept heterosexuals faithful. What makes you think it'll keep homosexuals faithful? Aside from that, HIV is spread by heterosexuals more than homosexuals. Maho fucked around with this message on 05-19-2004 at 01:10 AM.
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Palador ChibiDragon obviously shouldn't have said:
The way I see it, it's pretty simple.Let's say there's a 24 year old woman. She's going to get married.
There is a 26 year old man, and a 26 year old woman. Neither of them are related to her, or have any other problems (physical, mental, social, or moral) to keep them from being married to her.
If the man tries to marry her, it's legal.
If the woman tries to marry her, it's illegal.The difference between legal and illegal? Just gender. It's legal for a man, but illegal for a woman.
And that's just wrong.
But why have the not being related as a part of it even? You are still limiting the rights of people just not the people you agree with in this case. Ok so incest can cause abnormal births. (something that is actually disputed in single generation cases) Then force the people to be on birth control or to get abortions if pregnancy occurs. After all you have no problem with abortion right? So why not use it as a tool to allow people to marry within their family.
Laws by their very definition limit our freedoms. Their goal is to limit freedoms in such a way that society as a whole benefits from the laws. We can't go out and kill someone without repercussions. This is a limitation on our freedom. But not one that you hear people screaming about.
There were laws put in place to prohibit Gay people from even having a relationship. These have been all lifted or pretty much ignored. Something I agree was a good thing. Gay people are fine by me.
Then we had hate crimes legislations and we were told that we had to treat gay people, and others, different. Like they were "special" A crime against a gay person is worse than the same crime against a strait person. And god forbid that it is a black gay person. They should just shoot the suspect one he spot. This I did not like at all. it elevates some groups over others just liker Affirmative action does.
Now people want to pass laws saying that it is legal for Gay people to Marry. Some argue that this just gives them the same rights as strait people. I argue that it is something we don't need in this country.
It opens a Pandora box that we just dont' need to be touching.
What next? Special rights for boyfriends and girlfriends. After all why should you have to go though all that trouble of getting married to get all the benefits. Not to mention the situations I have already mentioned. Inter family, roommates just looking for a tax break, Perhaps you think the family pet should earn you the same exemptions as a wife.
The slippery slope argument is valid because we are already sliding down it.
You don't like morals? Fine move the fuck out of the country then. Their are certain morals and values that this country was founded on. Some people want us to forget that and use the guise of "separation of church and state" News flash. This has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with what the people consider right and wrong. And while on that note. It is Freedom OF religion, not Freedom FROM religion. Just because you dont' believe doesn't' mean you have to file a lawsuit every time someone says a prayer in front of you. Get the fuck over it.
Ok I am done. I need sleep.
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Everyone wondered WTF when Fazum'Zen Fastfist wrote:
Yeah, there really should be gay civil unions, it would help keep homosexuals faithful and therefore lower HIV rates
i know that was meant to be helpful, or hopefully you were just trying to be funny (and failing) but otherwise thats horribly ignorant.
Have a good day! 
You have a guy and a girl dating and getting married. Then have a kid. Nothing wrong with that, right?
Now, we have say, a man and a man dating, then want to get married. Then adopt a kid. What's wrong with that?
Seriously, if you're going to use the moral path, seperation of church and state. Who says it's moraly wrong? Church. State shouldn't be swayed by that then.
Ok.. then, economicaly. Uh.. Where will it be bad? It's two people getting married. Reguardless gender. It's two people who want to be legaly(which means they don't have to go to the church, they can go to the state) to get hitched.
Maybe it's just me, but I really don't see the huge problem about same gender marrage. Other then those who are moraly appauled by something different.
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Azizza rode by in a mouse drawn chariot while shouting:But why have the not being related as a part of it even? You are still limiting the rights of people just not the people you agree with in this case. Ok so incest can cause abnormal births. (something that is actually disputed in single generation cases) Then force the people to be on birth control or to get abortions if pregnancy occurs. After all you have no problem with abortion right? So why not use it as a tool to allow people to marry within their family.Laws by their very definition limit our freedoms. Their goal is to limit freedoms in such a way that society as a whole benefits from the laws. We can't go out and kill someone without repercussions. This is a limitation on our freedom. But not one that you hear people screaming about.
There were laws put in place to prohibit Gay people from even having a relationship. These have been all lifted or pretty much ignored. Something I agree was a good thing. Gay people are fine by me.
Then we had hate crimes legislations and we were told that we had to treat gay people, and others, different. Like they were "special" A crime against a gay person is worse than the same crime against a strait person. And god forbid that it is a black gay person. They should just shoot the suspect one he spot. This I did not like at all. it elevates some groups over others just liker Affirmative action does.
Now people want to pass laws saying that it is legal for Gay people to Marry. Some argue that this just gives them the same rights as straight people. I argue that it is something we don't need in this country.
It opens a Pandora box that we just dont' need to be touching.What next? Special rights for boyfriends and girlfriends. After all why should you have to go though all that trouble of getting married to get all the benefits. Not to mention the situations I have already mentioned. Inter family, roommates just looking for a tax break, Perhaps you think the family pet should earn you the same exemptions as a wife.
The slippery slope argument is valid because we are already sliding down it.
You don't like morals? Fine move the fuck out of the country then. Their are certain morals and values that this country was founded on. Some people want us to forget that and use the guise of "separation of church and state" News flash. This has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with what the people consider right and wrong. And while on that note. It is Freedom OF religion, not Freedom FROM religion. Just because you dont' believe doesn't' mean you have to file a lawsuit every time someone says a prayer in front of you. Get the fuck over it.Ok I am done. I need sleep.
The issue I've stated is simple. There is something that can differ from legal to illegal based PURELY on gender. Please address this issue when dealing with my views on it, or move on to someone else. Don't try to hide behind other issues and arguments that do not relate to my point.
And speaking of my point, how would you know my views on abortion? Care to show where I've stated them to the board at any point during my time here? If not, please stop pretending that you know what you clearly do not.
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Maho had this to say about Knight Rider:
Aside from that, HIV is spread by heterosexuals more than homosexuals.
Actually, shared needles is one of the leading causes.
I'd dig up a study, but I'm too tired, or whatever.
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Drysart wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Of course, I'm sure you'd never stoop to such an anti-intellectual "hurr kerry flip flops" stance by ignoring the facts, right?
You like him voting against the 1991 Gulf War, which he now says he supports? And like him voting for the 2003 Gulf War, which he now says he opposes?
Nah, he'd never do anything like that.
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Delphi Aegis had this to say about Duck Tales:
Actually, shared needles is one of the leading causes.I'd dig up a study, but I'm too tired, or whatever.
Good point, I'd forgotten that one. I was referring to sexual transmission, but the needle sharing is another big one that stands above transmission via homosexual intercourse.
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Check out the big brain on Callalron!
You like him voting against the 1991 Gulf War, which he now says he supports? And like him voting for the 2003 Gulf War, which he now says he opposes?Nah, he'd never do anything like that.
But a good conservative never changes his mind.
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Nina's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
Which is why, next elections, I will vote for Space Aliens!
You fool. Canadians can't vote, they aren't bred to do it. And Canadian politicians and elected officials aren't elected, they're hatched.
Everyone knows that.
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Palador ChibiDragon said:
I'll take the liberty of striking out the parts where you drift from the subject at hand, and try to cloud the issue that I have stated.The issue I've stated is simple. There is something that can differ from legal to illegal based PURELY on gender. Please address this issue when dealing with my views on it, or move on to someone else. Don't try to hide behind other issues and arguments that do not relate to my point.
And speaking of my point, how would you know my views on abortion? Care to show where I've stated them to the board at any point during my time here? If not, please stop pretending that you know what you clearly do not.
It is hard to address ay issue if you immediately call any argument wrong. You are set in your views and consider everyone else wrong. You consider yourself somehow superior because you feel differently than others. And you think your vague attempt at humor makes you somehow more "right". Quite pathetic. Either address the points I brought up or sit down and be quiet.
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Nina had this to say about Knight Rider:
Which is why, next elections, I will vote for Space Aliens!
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
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Azizza obviously shouldn't have said:
It is hard to address ay issue if you immediately call any argument wrong. You are set in your views and consider everyone else wrong. You consider yourself somehow superior because you feel differently than others. And you think your vague attempt at humor makes you somehow more "right". Quite pathetic. Either address the points I brought up or sit down and be quiet.
Marriage is a religious term. The state shouldn't be sanctioning or disallowing them. Marriage is between you, your partner, and some sort of deity thing. For tax benefits and societal recognition of your pairing, we have civil unions. Anyone should be able to get a civil union with whoever else, as long as they're both adults, and get the benefits and responsibilities therein.
Whether marriage is something thats heterosexual only is a matter of how the church doing it feels. Separation of church and state goes both ways.
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Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Cuba:
The definition of irony.
Is that a ninja behind them?
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Azizza got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
It is hard to address ay issue if you immediately call any argument wrong. You are set in your views and consider everyone else wrong. You consider yourself somehow superior because you feel differently than others. And you think your vague attempt at humor makes you somehow more "right". Quite pathetic. Either address the points I brought up or sit down and be quiet.
Azizza. You brought up entirely different points. You started a completely new argument that's remotely in the same arena. He wants you to address his points, not other points that, while similar, were never mentioned by him.
And "the Bible says so" can not be a reason for this argument.
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Blindy's account was hax0red to write:
Give me one reason why commited homosexual relationships are immoral.And "the Bible says so" can not be a reason for this argument.
The bible also sanctions selling your youngest daughter into slavery...
What does that have to do with this? Well... in today's world, we can't go selling our kids off to slavery. So.. why is that part of the bible not followed, but yet the problem with homosexuality is?
That ruled.
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Blindy had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Give me one reason why commited homosexual relationships are immoral.And "the Bible says so" can not be a reason for this argument.
Gays eat babies.
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frolicking imp was naked while typing this:
i know that was meant to be helpful, or hopefully you were just trying to be funny (and failing) but otherwise thats horribly ignorant.Have a good day!
Are you going to tell me why or are you just going to be an airbrained bitch and continue to pretend you "owned" me?
"Have a good day! Fazum'Zen Fastfist fucked around with this message on 05-19-2004 at 06:57 PM." How clever.
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Kegwen said:
Azizza. You brought up entirely different points. You started a completely new argument that's remotely in the same arena. He wants you to address his points, not other points that, while similar, were never mentioned by him.
Yep.
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Liam said:
Azizza has defined it for us.
Yep again.
Azizza, my question still stands.
