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Mr. Gainsborough
posted 04-13-2004 11:17:45 AM
CARDCAPTOR SAKURA.
Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 04-13-2004 11:18:43 AM
I still vote for Slayers. Has comedy and non-lethal violence for the young'ins. ^.^
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"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 04-13-2004 03:38:16 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about Duck Tales:
I dunno this argument is pretty funny. Get Fae up there and re-enact it in person. Be like the Odd Couple, sort of.

Yeah, I am a bit uppity about child development and responcible growth. It's not really anything personal against Death of Rats, it is just a pet peve with me on the "TV as Babysitter" thing. Plus that fact I think the term "Activities" implies, you know, activity. Which sitting kids downt to make em watch TV, even for 20-30 minutes, doesn't really qualify as "Activity".

I hate the fact parents these days have to rely on Daycares to raise kids in the first place. Unfortunately it is unavoidable with the way life is these days, doesn't mean I like it. Not to mention too many parents use it as an excuse to be lazy. I knew of one couple who put thier little girl in daycare, and she was there from 6 to 6, her mom got off work at 3:30 and her father at 4, yet they still left her in daycare until 6 and did god whatever everyday from 4-6 before picking up the poor kid. Made me wanna knock em around.


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Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 04-13-2004 03:43:39 PM
quote:
Faelynn LeAndris probably says this to all the girls:
Death of Rats

You did mean Rodent King, right?

Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 04-13-2004 03:45:42 PM
quote:
Katrinity was naked while typing this:
You did mean Rodent King, right?

Stupid rodents infesting things.

Yes, sorry


My LAUNCHCast Station
"Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
I got lost for an hour and became god.
 
can you please fix my title
posted 04-13-2004 10:39:02 PM
quote:
Faelynn LeAndris had this to say about Robocop:
I knew of one couple who put thier little girl in daycare, and she was there from 6 to 6, her mom got off work at 3:30 and her father at 4, yet they still left her in daycare until 6 and did god whatever everyday from 4-6 before picking up the poor kid. Made me wanna knock em around.

mmm ran errands, cleaned house? Prepared dinner? me time? leaving the child with proper care, for an extra 2.5 hours while they got their personal things done doesnt sound like bad parenting to me. Beats leaving them at the mall.

Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Ares
posted 04-13-2004 10:44:02 PM
Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 04-13-2004 11:27:54 PM
quote:
Somthor probably says this to all the girls:
mmm ran errands, cleaned house? Prepared dinner? me time? leaving the child with proper care, for an extra 2.5 hours while they got their personal things done doesnt sound like bad parenting to me. Beats leaving them at the mall.

Uh, hey.. Lets THINK about this one for a minute. The girl had ALREADY BEEN THERE from 6AM that morning, and was stuck there till 6PM EVERY NIGHT... Screw that, that is just damn neglectfull parenting. I'm perfectly fine with the every now and then, because you know all parents need alone time, and it makes for a great opportunity... But leaving your child in the care of others for 12 FUCKING HOURS A DAY EVERYDAY? This couple were friends of Monica's Roomate, so we also had the knowledge that this poor girls bedtime was 7:30, and her Mother worked alternating Saturday and Sundays...


So lets see, lets do the math. Girl spends 12 hours in Daycare, even though mommy and daddy are home at least 2 hours before then, everyday. Goes to bed an hour and a half after getting home, and on top of that only sees her mother every other weekend because she works. (Note catch the fact that if her mother works every other weekend, that generally means she still has days off during the week where her daughter is? Guess where? Yeah, Daycare. ) Even without the alternating work weeks, and the early bedtime, leaving a child, YOUR CHILD, in the care of others for 12 fucking hours a day, every day, is beyond messed up. I'm sorry.

Any parent who would say otherwise is a good example of whats fucked up with families and parenting these days.

Faelynn LeAndris fucked around with this message on 04-13-2004 at 11:29 PM.


My LAUNCHCast Station
"Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
I got lost for an hour and became god.
Fizodeth
an unflattering title
posted 04-14-2004 10:12:49 AM
RK is doing better than the daycare I used to go to when I was little. They'd either show Sandlot, Starwars, or Simpsons at 6 and from whatever time we got out of school til then it was homework time.
 
can you please fix my title
posted 04-14-2004 03:14:46 PM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Faelynn LeAndris wrote:
Uh, hey.. Lets THINK about this one for a minute. The girl had ALREADY BEEN THERE from 6AM that morning, and was stuck there till 6PM EVERY NIGHT... works every other weekend, that generally means she still has days off during the week where her daughter is? Guess where? Yeah, Daycare. ) Even without the alternating work weeks, and the early bedtime, leaving a child, YOUR CHILD, in the care of others for 12 fucking hours a day, every day, is beyond messed up. I'm sorry.

Any parent who would say otherwise is a good example of whats fucked up with families and parenting these days.


ponders all those rich kids who go to boarding schools...

but otherwise I agree with you if tis as extreme as you say. But I still think its a better place to be than say dumped at the mall

Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 04-14-2004 06:00:26 PM
quote:
Somthor attempted to be funny by writing:
ponders all those rich kids who go to boarding schools...

but otherwise I agree with you if tis as extreme as you say. But I still think its a better place to be than say dumped at the mall


Yeah, those rich kids stuck at boarding school thier whole lives have such great family connections too... Personally I think paying a school to board your child is just as lazy as leaving them in daycare all day every day.

Parents should be involved with thier kids, which usually means spending a good deal of time with said kids, too many parents (ESPECIALLY RICH Parents that just dump thier kids at a school and leave them there.) Are parents who do not have the patience to deal with thier kids, or the responcibility, and take the easy way out.

No child should ever be sent away from home to stay somewhere else instead of at home with thier parents. I have NEVER agreed with boarding schools, REGARDLESS of the level of education they may recieve. Kids need thier parents, parents need to take active rols, kids do not need to be sent to the care of others for thier childhood.

I never made a comparison to whether it was worse than dumping a kid off at a mall. It doesn't even matter, leaving your kids in the care of someone other than thier parents when you can just as easily spend time with them yourselves is just wrong, and you shouldn't be a parent.

Faelynn LeAndris fucked around with this message on 04-14-2004 at 06:01 PM.


My LAUNCHCast Station
"Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
I got lost for an hour and became god.
 
can you please fix my title
posted 04-14-2004 07:13:55 PM
quote:
When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Faelynn LeAndris said:
Yeah,


I never made a comparison to whether it was worse than dumping a kid off at a mall. It doesn't even matter, leaving your kids in the care of someone other than thier parents when you can just as easily spend time with them yourselves is just wrong, and you shouldn't be a parent.


ok, but its slightly more responsible to leave them in the care of a licenced caregiver than to turn them loose unsupervised on the streets, the malls etc etc.

Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 04-14-2004 07:15:34 PM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Somthor!
ok, but its slightly more responsible to leave them in the care of a licenced caregiver than to turn them loose unsupervised on the streets, the malls etc etc.

The lesser of two evils does not make it right.


My LAUNCHCast Station
"Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
I got lost for an hour and became god.
Rodent King
Stabbed in the Eye
posted 04-14-2004 07:35:06 PM
quote:
This one time, at Faelynn LeAndris camp:
Parents should be involved with thier kids, which usually means spending a good deal of time with said kids, too many parents (ESPECIALLY RICH Parents that just dump thier kids at a school and leave them there.) Are parents who do not have the patience to deal with thier kids, or the responcibility, and take the easy way out.

...leaving your kids in the care of someone other than thier parents when you can just as easily spend time with them yourselves is just wrong, and you shouldn't be a parent.


Today's world isn't filled with the traditional nuclear-family setting America used to have. We've got single mothers, single fathers, and households with both parents working to make ends meet. It can't be helped, but some families can't afford to stay home with their kids. I know some parents abuse it, and they go do their own thing each day while they leave their kids at the school for 12 hour days, but there's not much I or anyone can do about it.

As for boarding schools, I see it as rich parents trying to give their kids a better education than what they'd get at home. I'm sure some are just getting their kids out of the way, but at least some have good intentions.

In any case, it's better than either:

A) Leaving their kids home alone at a way too young age after public school.

B) Hiring a baby-sitter/nanny that may or may not have the proper training to get the jobs done. (And who could just sit them in front of a screen anyways)

With a child care center they're assured of their kids having a government-regulated snack, in a government-regulated size class (Based on room size), with a government-required amount of teachers that have gone through several government-required classes and trainings to get the job. It seems more reliable to me to put my kid there when I've got to get to work.

My inner child is bigger than my outer adult.
Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 04-14-2004 07:50:47 PM
quote:
Rodent King wrote this stupid crap:
Today's world isn't filled with the traditional nuclear-family setting America used to have. We've got single mothers, single fathers, and households with both parents working to make ends meet. It can't be helped, but some families can't afford to stay home with their kids. I know some parents abuse it, and they go do their own thing each day while they leave their kids at the school for 12 hour days, but there's not much I or anyone can do about it.

As for boarding schools, I see it as rich parents trying to give their kids a better education than what they'd get at home. I'm sure some are just getting their kids out of the way, but at least some have good intentions.

In any case, it's better than either:

A) Leaving their kids home alone at a way too young age after public school.

B) Hiring a baby-sitter/nanny that may or may not have the proper training to get the jobs done. (And who could just sit them in front of a screen anyways)

With a child care center they're assured of their kids having a government-regulated snack, in a government-regulated size class (Based on room size), with a government-required amount of teachers that have gone through several government-required classes and trainings to get the job. It seems more reliable to me to put my kid there when I've got to get to work.


Yes I know very well the loss of the traditional family, and the fact it is nessesary on occasion. Unessesary abandonment does not however excuse neglectful parenting. As far as boarding schools, and parents wanting thier kids to have a better education than they had, is that a payoff for NEVER seeing your kids. You might as well be putting them through coledge when they are little kids because you aren't spending time with them, and leaving children unnessesarily at a daycare is also inexcuseable. I'm not even talking being able to afford staying home with your kids, I'm talking blatant abuse of it, and the fact it is too easy these days for parents to just shirk thier responcibility of parenting getting more and more common.

I'm not even suggesting the lack of need for a daycare because we used one, but if I didn't HAVE to leave my girls there I wasn't GOING to leave my girls there. They need more time with me, than they do with someone who isn't a part of thier family. They need ME to teach them, and be there for them, not someone else. It is too much of a convience these days.

Oh, and as far as two parents having to work 12 hour days to make ends meet. With the cost of daycare, versus the money coming, if they are having to struggle that much, in a lot of cases it is more financially sound for a parent to stay home rather than work because most of thier money is going to childcare. It cost $120 per child per week here. If you are only making $800 or so a month, you aren't bringing all that much home over what you are paying out for having 2 kids in Daycare.

Even nessesary or not, a child being left in the care of strangers for 12 hours a day is not healthy. In some cases nessesary, to a degree, but still not healthy. Kids need thier parents, and blatant abuse of that is cruelty.

Working in childcare, I'm sure you know parents like this very well. They are far, far too common now. If you are sitting at home, your child should not be sitting at Daycare, period. Boarding schools just plain suck, better education or not, because they are living, eating, breathing, sleeping in some place other than home. When do they even SEE thier parents or DO anything with thier parents? Holidays, special weekends, phonecalls. Screw some higher education, that is just wrong.


My LAUNCHCast Station
"Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
I got lost for an hour and became god.
Rodent King
Stabbed in the Eye
posted 04-14-2004 08:19:48 PM
quote:
Faelynn LeAndris thought about the meaning of life:
Oh, and as far as two parents having to work 12 hour days to make ends meet. With the cost of daycare, versus the money coming, if they are having to struggle that much, in a lot of cases it is more financially sound for a parent to stay home rather than work because most of thier money is going to childcare.

Even nessesary or not, a child being left in the care of strangers for 12 hours a day is not healthy. In some cases nessesary, to a degree, but still not healthy. Kids need thier parents, and blatant abuse of that is cruelty.


A pretty good percent of our parents (especially the single-mothers with multiple kids) use government funding to pay for childcare. All they've got to do is pay a small (Like 20$ a month) co-pay along with the government's money and everything runs smoothly. I'm sure the single mother could live on the streets with them and help them pick dumpsters for food, but at least they'd get family time together.

I'm the only guy working at the center, so I get a lot of kids each day that tend to cling to me each day. (Follow me around the room, do anything to get my attention/approval) Several don't have a father figure in their lives, and who knows? If their mother's working 2 jobs a day and is too tired at night to give them good parental attention, isn't a good teacher during the day a good thing to have? I know I'm parlaying to a small amount of cases, but then again there aren't many parents that leave their kids with us for 12 hours while they go off ad have fun or whatever.

My inner child is bigger than my outer adult.
Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 04-14-2004 08:41:38 PM
quote:
When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Rodent King said:
A pretty good percent of our parents (especially the single-mothers with multiple kids) use government funding to pay for childcare. All they've got to do is pay a small (Like 20$ a month) co-pay along with the government's money and everything runs smoothly. I'm sure the single mother could live on the streets with them and help them pick dumpsters for food, but at least they'd get family time together.

We are not talking about the fact that a single mother has no recource, we are talking about blatant abuse, which is inexcuseable. So yeah, way to put an emotional spin on bringing up the dumpster food hunting, which has absolutely nothing to do with any of the points that have been made.

quote:
If their mother's working 2 jobs a day and is too tired at night to give them good parental attention, isn't a good teacher during the day a good thing to have? I know I'm parlaying to a small amount of cases, but then again there aren't many parents that leave their kids with us for 12 hours while they go off ad have fun or whatever.

Again point to where I said, it was a BAD thing that there was a teacher or other care provider taking care of them when it was nessesary. It has already been established that it is better they are cared for than not. THAT is not the discussion or the point. The point was shirking the responcibility by abusing the use of daycares and boarding schools which has become far more common when it is UNNESSESARY. It is always better than SOMEONE is at least paying attention to em, its the fact that someone besides thier parents is doing it when it is unnessesary to do so because they are lazy, or can't handle the responcibility.

You are totally on a different page here.

Faelynn LeAndris fucked around with this message on 04-14-2004 at 08:43 PM.


My LAUNCHCast Station
"Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
I got lost for an hour and became god.
Ishigami
Pancake
posted 04-15-2004 08:57:23 PM
quote:
Lechium had this to say about Punky Brewster:
What?? And the whole huge battle between Guld and Isamu in the Veritechs isn't violent even though its giant battling robots?


Okay dude there are exactly eight(8)Macross/Robotech animation series'. 1 movie, 5 OVA's, and 2 series'. Isamu and Guld are from a 4 episode OVA called Macross Plus. Super Dimension Fortress Macross/Robotech is what series I believe he was saying featuring Rick Hunter and Roy Fokker.

Some series' that are for that range of age would be:
1. Dragonball/Z/GT
2. Beyblade/V-Force/G-Revolution
3. Mobile Suit Gundam
4. Digimon
5. Power Stone
6. Sonic X
7. Shaman King
8. Kirby: Right Back At Ya!
9. .hack//Sign (maybe)

"Truly, if there is evil in this world, it lies within the heart of mankind"
Lechium
With no one to ever know
posted 04-15-2004 09:01:09 PM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Ishigami:
Stuff

Ah, I apologize for the misunderstanding. I thought thats the one Somthor was talking about.

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